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Leave My Vending Machines Alone!

Skinny foodies are ruining our coffee breaks with 'healthy' alternatives

 

The attempt to push through the Maryland Healthy Vending Act in that state has sparked debate about whether or not the government should have a say in what goes into vending machines for the public … at least those vending machines that are on state-owned or state-managed properties.

Robi Rawl, executive director of Sugar Free Kids Maryland, a coalition created two years ago, led the fight to enact the measure, which initially seemed to have strong support in the state congressional houses. The bill mandated that 75 percent of items in vending machines in state-run buildings must meet healthy standards. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration already requires vending machines to clearly display nutritional information.

 
 
 

“People looking for a Coke (may) still find a Coke. Snickers and Doritos can still be in the machines — but so would healthy options,” Rawl told LifeZette. “Right now, there are virtually no healthy options and virtually no choice.”

“It’s easy to see why healthy vending has already been implemented in over 80 jurisdictions across the country,” Rawl added. “Healthy vending has been studied extensively, and each time it has been implemented, revenues have either stayed the same or increased.”

But the measure was killed by Maryland’s Senate Finance Committee and now has been withdrawn, potentially to be retooled down the road.

 
 
 
 
 
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The bill has raised questions about vending machine standards as more states move to introduce similar legislation. And it begs the question: Is all this effort to include healthier foods in vending machines really working to help America’s obesity epidemic?

Dr. Scott Kahan, director of the National Center for Weight and Wellness and a spokesperson for The Obesity Society, told LifeZette it’s not clear whether healthy food options in vending machines are causing people to eat better.

"There haven't been enough real-world vending machine policies with good follow-up data collection to know," he acknowledged. "But we do have good data that healthy vending options do improve purchase choices and nutrition."

A 2014 VendingMarke****ch.com report showed that healthier foods are being requested across the board, even required now in schools, due to the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act of 2010. However, vending operators with a large quantity of school accounts are reporting revenue losses of between 30 to 40 percent from that segment.

The requirement limits sodium, total sugar and calories in all snack items.

"Finding healthy product options that sell well is an issue the industry will continue to struggle with as more and more vending operators are asked to place healthy items in machines, even at non-school accounts. A majority, 82.7 percent of operators, report having locations request healthier products be placed in the machines. This is a trend that is not receding," the VendingMarke****ch.com report states.

Adding more healthy options in vending machines and lowering the cost of those options relative to unhealthy options "seem to be most effective," said Kahan.

Andy Bellatti, a nutritionist in Las Vegas, said he also thinks prices could affect the items people buy. "I'm a big believer in nudging folks toward healthful choices," he said. "To do that, unhealthy options need to be priced much higher or simply not be made available."

In other words, then, if you want to partake of your favorite junk food addiction — you'll be stuck trying to find it yourself.

Bellatti also said it is vital to define what constitutes healthy foods. "I have seen too many so-called ‘healthy vending machines’ that still sell highly processed junk. Low-fat cookies, sugar-laden beverages with added vitamins, whole grain fried chips, and pretzels, which are simply refined flour, are not healthful snacks, but rather ‘healthwashed’ fare."

He also admitted that the healthiest snacks are ones people bring from home — such as fresh fruit, nuts, seeds, dark chocolate with an 80 percent or higher coca content, or vegetables with dips such as hummus, salsa, and guacamole. And he noted it is too soon to tell if healthier options in vending machines cause people to eat better.

Kahan believes strategies such as the Maryland Healthy Vending Act are worthwhile. "To be sure, one-off interventions or policies are not enough in the face of the huge obesity epidemic, but they can be valuable pieces of the puzzle," he said.

Alabama, Iowa, Mississippi, and Ohio are the leading states in the Healthier Vending Machine Initiative in State Facilities movement, the CDC reported. Countless communities are also taking up the initiative, not always with success.

Bellatti believes it's worth a try. "When it comes to improving public health and nutrition, we need multiple solutions. Healthier vending machines — ones that sell real healthful food, not health-washed junk — can certainly play a role."

 

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Horse****. Vendors should be able to sell what they want out of their vending machines.

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Man, I wod have LOVED a vending machine to have healthy options when I worked at the cheesepit.

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LOL, the "healthy" alternative in the vending machines at work are the ones that have to be tossed because almost no one buys them.

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I think the vendors are trying to make money and they will just put in what sells. If protein bars and organic juice sell, then sell it. If Reese's cups and pepsi sell, then they will sell that. A little bit of both is nice to have options.
Kind of like going out to eat. Every kid's menu was chicken nuggets and pizza and that was pretty much it. Maybe Mac and cheese. But, really kids will eat a variety of things if you feed it to them.

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Whomever OWNS the machine should be able to stock it however they want.

When I was in school, different clubs owned the machines.

Drama had 2, track had 2, prom committee had 3 or 4.

They stocked theirs and got the profit from them.

Then the government stepped in and now they barely break even.

I'm all for offering a variety.

But honestly, the granola bars and coke zeros ain't no better than a coke and a kit Kat.

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Well, you own the machine, but you are putting it on someone else's property. So, they will have some say whether they want your machine or not. I do think that it is better to offer things like juice, water and other types of snacks besides candy bars.

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Those machines are placed with owners permission.

A lot of time, the space is rented.



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When the so called "healthy" food doesn't sell, the company will ditch the "healthy" food. What will they sell? Carrot sticks? Celery? Apples or oranges? Most of that stuff will rot before it's sold.

The market will take care of the problem.

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Well, you own the machine, but you are putting it on someone else's property. So, they will have some say whether they want your machine or not. I do think that it is better to offer things like juice, water and other types of snacks besides candy bars.


 I once worked in an office where we had to work 18 hour days for about 6 weeks a year. There were no restaurants or convenience stores around so all we had were the vending machines. And they were horrid. I would have loved some healthy options. We couldn't bring our own food because the fridge was a free for all. So you had to keep it at your desk of you wanted to see it later. It sucked. I would have kicked a puppy for some carrot sticks or an apple. 



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I think there can be options like nuts, dried fruit, dried or vacuum packed veggies, jerky, etc. Lots of possibilities. Seems that vendors just get into a routine. But, people are more adventurous now and more willing to try things.

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I think there can be options like nuts, dried fruit, dried or vacuum packed veggies, jerky, etc. Lots of possibilities. Seems that vendors just get into a routine. But, people are more adventurous now and more willing to try things.


 That would have been amazing. Seriously. All the machine had was cookies, chips, gum, and candy bars. I think once it had some cereal bars and I snatched those up myself in about a week. Never saw them again though. And everyone who worked there was overweight. Almost every single person. 



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I like this idea. Whenever I've been faced with having to get food from a vending machine it's because either me or DD was at that point where we NEEDED to eat and when you are at that point, junk food will make you feel worse. I once bought DD a Slim Jim because it was the best choice to keep a hangry toddler from melting down.

Now I guess if you are just looking for a snack, yea some chips or crackers would be nice to have in there too.

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When faced with all the horrible choices - get the plain chips. They are just potatoes, oil and salt, usually.

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I wonder if the school machines still offer the peanut butter crackers.

Sometimes you could find Chocolate covered raisins.

Trying to remember what else was in there back then.

Cheese crackers, pretzels, and I think it was wheat thins.

And then candies and gums.

Don't remember using a vending machine other places except maybe the hospital.



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My company did away with three of their five vending machines this year.  The three vending machines sold candy and chips, Coke, Pepsi, and a bunch of other carbonated sugary drinks.  The two remaining machines have healthy snacks, water and juices, but nothing carbonated or loaded with sugar. 

I gave up drinking soda and other carbonated drinks close to a year ago (April 2015), and I do not miss them at all.  My blood work and other lab numbers have improved greatly as well.   I have no desire to have a soda anymore.  It’s a good feeling.   smile



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Vending machines are at shopping malls, libraries, most car repair shops, airports...

And I agree that they can have junk food as well as healthier options.

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Been thinking about this.

Vending machines are not generally intended to offer a meal. They are for those times when you just have to have something to get by.

That's generally why the things in them are smaller in size.

So if you don't like what is generally offered in them, don't eat it. Plan accordingly.

But the one thing everyone should be able to agree on, is that the government needs to get its fingers out of our every minute daily activities.

I mean really, does anyone want the government telling them what they can and can not put in their machines?

Or what we can and can not eat?

I dont.


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Yes, I need to be told what to eat...

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And how to dress...and what car to drive...and...

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Lily it isn't always possible to plan accordingly. If it were the vending machine wouldn't need to be there at all ! Need a snack to get by - should have planned accordingly.

And not everyone wants to eat processed garbage even if it's just once in awhile. It actually makes some people sick of they haven't had it in awhile.

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 My company did away with three of their five vending machines this year.  The three vending machines sold candy and chips, Coke, Pepsi, and a bunch of other carbonated sugary drinks.  The two remaining machines have healthy snacks, water and juices, but nothing carbonated or loaded with sugar. 

I gave up drinking soda and other carbonated drinks close to a year ago (April 2015), and I do not miss them at all.  My blood work and other lab numbers have improved greatly as well.   I have no desire to have a soda anymore.  It’s a good feeling.   smile


 RTL, I think that is awesome!



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 My company did away with three of their five vending machines this year.  The three vending machines sold candy and chips, Coke, Pepsi, and a bunch of other carbonated sugary drinks.  The two remaining machines have healthy snacks, water and juices, but nothing carbonated or loaded with sugar. 

I gave up drinking soda and other carbonated drinks close to a year ago (April 2015), and I do not miss them at all.  My blood work and other lab numbers have improved greatly as well.   I have no desire to have a soda anymore.  It’s a good feeling.   smile


 RTL, I think that is awesome!


 I second that.  It is awesome! 

I eat healthy most of the time.  But when I'm having a bad day, a sugar cookie the size of my head covered in pink frosting and sprinkles solves everything!  I need that option :)



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Lily it isn't always possible to plan accordingly. If it were the vending machine wouldn't need to be there at all ! Need a snack to get by - should have planned accordingly.

And not everyone wants to eat processed garbage even if it's just once in awhile. It actually makes some people sick of they haven't had it in awhile.


 No. It isnt. That is what the machines are for. The rare times when you have no choice and need something. 

They are not meant to be a source of nutrients. 

They are to get you through till you can do better in an absolute have to situation.

And how hard is it to put an apple and bottle of water in your bag? 

You plan accordingly and if you find yourself in an absolute need to use a vending machine, well, get the peanut butter crackers or something.

The machine are there for need. Not a meal.

 



-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Thursday 24th of March 2016 01:27:51 PM

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Lily it isn't always possible to plan accordingly. If it were the vending machine wouldn't need to be there at all ! Need a snack to get by - should have planned accordingly.

And not everyone wants to eat processed garbage even if it's just once in awhile. It actually makes some people sick of they haven't had it in awhile.


 No. It isnt. That is what the machines are for. The rare times when you have no choice and need something. 

They are not meant to be a source of nutrients. 

They are to get you through till you can do better in an absolute have to situation.

And how hard is it to put an apple and bottle of water in your bag? 

You plan accordingly and if you find yourself in an absolute need to use a vending machine, well, get the peanut butter crackers or something.

The machine are there for need. Not a meal.

 



-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Thursday 24th of March 2016 01:27:51 PM


 Why not?  All food should be for the nourishment of your body.  It's the attitude that it's ok to eat empty calories that has given this country such an obesity problem.  And how hard would it be to stock nuts, Kind bars, packs of raisins, those fruit pouches AND a Snickers and bags of chips?



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Lily it isn't always possible to plan accordingly. If it were the vending machine wouldn't need to be there at all ! Need a snack to get by - should have planned accordingly.

And not everyone wants to eat processed garbage even if it's just once in awhile. It actually makes some people sick of they haven't had it in awhile.


 No. It isnt. That is what the machines are for. The rare times when you have no choice and need something. 

They are not meant to be a source of nutrients. 

They are to get you through till you can do better in an absolute have to situation.

And how hard is it to put an apple and bottle of water in your bag? 

You plan accordingly and if you find yourself in an absolute need to use a vending machine, well, get the peanut butter crackers or something.

The machine are there for need. Not a meal.

 



-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Thursday 24th of March 2016 01:27:51 PM


 Just because you are ok with selecting a piece of junk to hold you over does not mean everyone else is. A person can choose said junk or not, but the companies operating the vending machines would be smart to offer more if they want to reach a wider range of customers and make more money.

For the record, no, I don't think it should be government mandated, just smart business practice by the owners of the machines.



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I'm saying 2 things.

1. The government has no business in our mouths.

2. Plan accordingly and if you find yourself in front of a machine, it's probably because you've exhausted all other options. A pack of chips, unless allergic, won't kill you.

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Lily it isn't always possible to plan accordingly. If it were the vending machine wouldn't need to be there at all ! Need a snack to get by - should have planned accordingly.

And not everyone wants to eat processed garbage even if it's just once in awhile. It actually makes some people sick of they haven't had it in awhile.


 No. It isnt. That is what the machines are for. The rare times when you have no choice and need something. 

They are not meant to be a source of nutrients. 

They are to get you through till you can do better in an absolute have to situation.

And how hard is it to put an apple and bottle of water in your bag? 

You plan accordingly and if you find yourself in an absolute need to use a vending machine, well, get the peanut butter crackers or something.

The machine are there for need. Not a meal.

 



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 Just because you are ok with selecting a piece of junk to hold you over does not mean everyone else is. A person can choose said junk or not, but the companies operating the vending machines would be smart to offer more if they want to reach a wider range of customers and make more money.

For the record, no, I don't think it should be government mandated, just smart business practice by the owners of the machines.


 What the heck? I haven't used a vending machine since high school.

I plan accordingly and keep snacks on hand.

Why the personal dig? 



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I'm saying 2 things.

1. The government has no business in our mouths.

2. Plan accordingly and if you find yourself in front of a machine, it's probably because you've exhausted all other options. A pack of chips, unless allergic, won't kill you.


 If you are in that much of a 'need' to eat that you have exhausted all other options, and that's what vending machines are for according to you, it would make MORE sense to have it filled with healthier options. 



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I have a sudden desire to check out OUR vending machine.

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The only places you see vending machines here are the hospital, break rooms and school.

But like I said, the ones at school are barely breaking even with all the healthy options.



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When I went to jury duty, their vending machines were a joke, and you were not supposed to bring anything in. As an example - there wasn't one thing in there that a diabetic would be safe eating. And they were really strict on the food rule. Normally, I can get a Kind bar in to anywhere if I tell them I have blood sugar issues, but they made me take it back to the car.

Oh, I forgot, I was going to write a letter about that. I need to get on that.

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What is a kind bar?


 Only the best protein bar made, no weird aftertaste and total healthy yumm.

 

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Lily it isn't always possible to plan accordingly. If it were the vending machine wouldn't need to be there at all ! Need a snack to get by - should have planned accordingly.

And not everyone wants to eat processed garbage even if it's just once in awhile. It actually makes some people sick of they haven't had it in awhile.


 No. It isnt. That is what the machines are for. The rare times when you have no choice and need something. 

They are not meant to be a source of nutrients. 

They are to get you through till you can do better in an absolute have to situation.

And how hard is it to put an apple and bottle of water in your bag? 

You plan accordingly and if you find yourself in an absolute need to use a vending machine, well, get the peanut butter crackers or something.

The machine are there for need. Not a meal.

 



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 Just because you are ok with selecting a piece of junk to hold you over does not mean everyone else is. A person can choose said junk or not, but the companies operating the vending machines would be smart to offer more if they want to reach a wider range of customers and make more money.

For the record, no, I don't think it should be government mandated, just smart business practice by the owners of the machines.


 What the heck? I haven't used a vending machine since high school.

I plan accordingly and keep snacks on hand.

Why the personal dig? 


 It wasn't meant as a dig, you are saying it's fine if that's all that's offered, choose it and eat it. I don't agree.

Also, implying that other people don't plan accordingly is silly. I think most people only use vending machines when their day didn't go as planned and they were not able to plan accordingly. It's great that that has never happened to you, but most people have had a day where they are not perfectly prepared for every situation.



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Is it hard?


 Not really.  I mean, it has nuts, which are crunchy, but there are lots of different flavors.  The Vanilla almond blueberry is softer than say the Dark Chocolate Cinnamon Pecan.  The ones with fruit tend to be softer, but they also have more natural sugar.



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Ok. Some of those protein bars are like little bricks.

I'll look for them.

The kids keep them in their bags.

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And let's face it - the real reason they load the machines with crap is because the crap is cheaper and has a longer shelf life with all those preservatives.

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Ok. Some of those protein bars are like little bricks.

I'll look for them.

The kids keep them in their bags.


 They also do granola bars, which are good for breakfast, they are flatter and more square than regular granola bars.  Oh, but do NOT buy the "breakfast bars"- those are not good. 



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Ok. Some of those protein bars are like little bricks.

I'll look for them.

The kids keep them in their bags.


 They also do granola bars, which are good for breakfast, they are flatter and more square than regular granola bars.  Oh, but do NOT buy the "breakfast bars"- those are not good. 


 Ok. No breakfast bars.

The kids keep a little zip lock bag of snacks in their back pack and Caitlyn keeps it in her purse.

Nuts, dried fruit, pretzels, granola or protein bars. Every now and then the stick a pop tart in there. 

Caitlyn has a chill bag and keeps cheeses and such with her.

 



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I think this could go on any of our threads about now -

 

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I can't remember the last time I've seen a vending machine.

That dark chocolate, nuts & sea salt Kind bar looks delicious. I've never heard of them before.

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Lawyerlady wrote:
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What is a kind bar?


 Only the best protein bar made, no weird aftertaste and total healthy yumm.

 

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 Pricey but good!

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I just checked my grocery delivery service & they have a variety of them but at the moment a lot are out of stock. They must be very popular. Next order I am trying the dark chocolate, cherry & cashew bar. Drool.

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Lexxy wrote:

I just checked my grocery delivery service & they have a variety of them but at the moment a lot are out of stock. They must be very popular. Next order I am trying the dark chocolate, cherry & cashew bar. Drool.


 It is really good.  It was my favorite for a long time.  But, once I started eating the nuts and spices ones that only have 4-5 grams of sugar, that one got really sweet for me.  I still eat it sometimes, though.  And it is DH's favorite.



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You can usually find them in the checkout lanes at groceries (the single bars).

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flan327 wrote:

You can usually find them in the checkout lanes at groceries (the single bars).

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 They are cheaper if you buy them by the box. 



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You can usually find them in the checkout lanes at groceries (the single bars).

flan


 They are cheaper if you buy them by the box. 


 Obviously, but I'd rather try a single bar first & make sure I like it.

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I don't mind healthy choices in a vending machine, as long as there are junk food choices as well. What I mind is when there's a governmental mandate that there must be.

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