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  • Even Trump's most trusted advisors didn't expect him to fare this well.
  • Almost a year ago, recruited for my public relations and public policy expertise, I sat in Trump Tower being told that the goal was to get The Donald to poll in double digits and come in second in delegate count. That was it.
  • The Trump camp would have been satisfied to see him polling at 12% and taking second place to a candidate who might hold 50%. His candidacy was a protest candidacy.
  • It pains me to say, but he is the presidential equivalent of Sanjaya onAmerican Idol. President Trump would be President Sanjaya in terms of legitimacy and authority.
  • And I am now taking full responsibility for helping create this monster — and reaching out directly to those voters who, like me, wanted Trump to be the real deal.
  • My support for Trump began probably like yours did. Similar to so many other Americans, I was tired of the rhetoric in Washington. Negativity and stubbornness were at an all-time high, and the presidential prospects didn't look promising.
  • In 2015, I fell in love with the idea of the protest candidate who was not bought by corporations. A man who sat in a Manhattan high-rise he had built, making waves as a straight talker with a business background, full of successes and failures, who wanted America to return to greatness.
  • I was sold.
  • Last summer, I signed on as the Communications Director of the Make America Great Again Super PAC.
  • It was still early in the Trump campaign, and we hit the ground running. His biggest competitor had more than $100 million in a Super PAC. The Jeb Bush deep pockets looked to be the biggest obstacle we faced. We seemed to be up against a steep challenge, especially since a big part of the appeal of a Trump candidacy was not being influenced by PAC money.
  • [READ: Donald Trump's Hate Speech Is Breeding Violence and There Is More to Come]
  • After the first debate, I was more anxious than ever to support Trump. The exchange with Megyn Kelly was like manna from heaven for a communications director. She appeared like yet another reporter trying to kick out the guest who wasn’t invited to the party. At the time, I felt excited for the change to the debate he could bring. I began realizing the man really resonates with the masses and would bring people to the process who had never participated before.
  • That was inspiring to me.
  • It wasn't long before every day I awoke to a buzzing phone and a shaking head because Trump had said something politically incorrect the night before. I have been around politics long enough to know that the other side will pounce on any and every opportunity to smear a candidate.
  • But something surprising and absolutely unexpected happened. Every other candidate misestimated the anger and outrage of the “silent majority” of Americans who are not a part of the liberal elite. So with each statement came a jump in the polls. Just when I thought we were finished, The Donald gained more popularity.
  • I don't think even Trump thought he would get this far. And I don’t even know that he wanted to, which is perhaps the scariest prospect of all.
  • He certainly was never prepared or equipped to go all the way to the White House, but his ego has now taken over the driver's seat, and nothing else matters. The Donald does not fail. The Donald does not have any weakness. The Donald is his own biggest enemy.
  • A devastating terrorist attack in Pakistan targeting Christians occurred on Easter Sunday, and Trump’s response was to tweet, "Another radical Islamic attack, this time in Pakistan, targeting Christian women & children. At least 67 dead, 400 injured. I alone can solve."
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  • Ignoring the fact that at the time Trump tweeted this (time-stamped 4:37 p.m.) the latest news reports had already placed the number differently at 70 dead, 300 injured, take a moment to appreciate the ridiculous, cartoonish, almost childish arrogance of saying that he alone can solve. Does Trump think that he is making a cameo on Wrestlemania (yes, one of his actual credits)?
  • This is not how foreign policy works. For anyone. Ever.
  • Superhero powers where "I alone can solve" problems are not real. They do not exist for Batman, for Superman, for Wrestlemania and definitely not for Donald Trump.
  • What was once Trump's desire to rank second place to send a message to America and to increase his power as a businessman has nightmarishly morphed into a charade that is poised to do irreparable damage to this country if we do not stop this campaign in its tracks.
  • [READ: IT HAPPENED TO ME: Donald Trump Ruined My Relationship]
  • I'll say it again: Trump never intended to be the candidate. But his pride is too out of control to stop him now.
  • You can give Trump the biggest gift possible if you are a Trump supporter: stop supporting him.
  • He doesn't want the White House. He just wants to be able to say that he could have run the White House. He’s achieved that already and then some. If there is any question, take it from someone who was recruited to help the candidate succeed, and initially very much wanted him to do so.
  • The hard truth is: Trump only cares about Trump.
  • And if you are one of the disaffected voters — one of the silent majority like me — who wanted a candidate who could be your voice, I want to speak directly to you as one of his biggest advocates and supporters.
  • He is not that voice. He is not your voice. He is only Trump's voice.
  • Trump is about Trump. Not one of his many wives. Not one of his many "pieces of ass." He is, at heart, a self-preservationist.
  • In fact, many people are not aware of the Trump campaign's internal slogan, but I will tell you. It is stolen from a make-believe television presidency on The West Wing where Martin Sheen portrayed President Bartlet. The slogan on the show amongst the idealistic group of Bartlet's staff was “Let Bartlet Be Bartlet.”
  • Inside the Trump camp, the slogan became "Let Trump Be Trump."
  • It is a repurposed slogan that seemed spot-on for the candidate. He is an intelligent, charismatic man who is involved in every aspect of his organization and would rather speak from the cuff than read briefing notes and recite them. I, in fact, admire Trump for this. But saying this qualifies him to be president is like saying that Seth Rogen is suited to be president. Another extraordinary improvisor, not an extraordinary presidential candidate.
  • Trump has undoubtedly lived up to the slogan, right down to his main public-relations liaison. Rather than go for a focus-group Washington insider, his communications person had previously taken press calls for the Trump Organization and directed them to the appropriate Trump child. She joked that before joining the campaign she thought "Common Core" was a class at Equinox.
  • [READ: I Thought I'd Be Fine When My Wife Opened Our Marriage, But I Got Drunk and Freaked Out]
  • The primary problem with this? What I've seen the longer I've helped prop him up along with the millions who are helping Trump is that we got the slogan wrong. A more accurate internal slogan would read, "Let Trump Help Trump."
  • I don't dismiss any single Trump constituent, which is why I believe it's important to let you know that the candidate does.
  • I, too, think our country has gone off track in its values. I, too, think that we need a dramatic change of course. But I am, in my heart, a policy wonk and a believer in coming to the table with necessary knowledge for leading the free world.
  • The man does not know policy, nor does he have the humility to admit what he does not know — the most frightening position of all.
  • I remember watching the second Trump debate and thinking, After this, he is going to have to start hammering it home on policy; the country needs substance to make an informed decision.
  • I wished for it six months ago and am still waiting for it today. He had an opportunity after the terror attacks in Belgium and instead he used the opportunity to talk about closing the borders and what a mess that country had become. I was appalled that he offered no condolences or words of support; he merely gave his "build a wall" stump speech and talked about his greatness.
  • I felt sad for him at that moment.
  • And now, with the latest horrifying terror attack in Pakistan, my sadness has turned into anger.
  • I consider myself a part of the silent majority that led to Trump’s rise, which is why I want you to know that I am with you — I wanted Trump to be real, too.
  • He is not.
  • He even says so himself. His misogyny? That's the character.
  • His presidential candidacy? That's a character, too.
  • The problem with characters is they are the stuff of soap operas and sitcoms and reality competitions — not political legacies.
  • Trump made me believe. Until I woke up.
  • Former Trump Strategist Stephanie Cegielski
  • And he has no problem abusing your support the same way he cheated hard-working men and women out of millions of dollars, for which he is now being sued.
  • I came into this eager to support a savvy businessman who received little outside funding. I loved Trump's outsider status. But a year has now passed since I was first approached to become part of Team Trump.
  • While the pundits pontificated about what type of PR stunt Trump had up his billion-dollar sleeves, I met with people who convinced me he was serious about changing the political conversation. I wanted to raise millions for him. I wanted to contribute to millions of votes.
  • [READ: Don't Be So Sure That Donald Trump Can't Win the Republican Nomination — Or the Presidency]
  • And as part of that support, in October, I supported the internal decision to close the Super PAC in order to position him as the quintessential non-politician. I still supported him with great passion after that. The decision to close the Super PAC was part of that devotion to his message of outsider change.
  • But something was shifting.
  • Without intending to do so, I began to hear and evaluate him more critically and skeptically as a member of the voting public rather than a communications person charged with protecting his positions.
  • I no longer felt that he was the leader the country was looking for, and I found myself longing — aching, really — for policy substance that went beyond building a wall and making Mexico pay for it. What were once bold — although controversial — statements now seemed to be attempts to please the crowds, not direction to lead this country to a better place. I began to realize his arrogance and isolation had taken over and were now controlling his message.
  • And here's what he tapped into: the unprecedented, unbelievable anger.
  • Because we are all angry — and we all have a right to be. But Trump is not our champion. He would stab any one of his supporters in the back if it earned him a cent more in his pocket.
  • Unfortunately, the more vitriolic Trump has become, the more the people responded to him. That drove him to push the boundaries further and further.
  • I also started seeing a trend of incompetence and deniability.
  • When there was a tweet that contained an error, he would blame it on an intern; when there was a photo containing a World War II Nazi Germany background, he would blame it on an intern; when he answered questions in an overtly controversial fashion, he would claim that he did not properly hear the question. He refused to take responsibility for his actions while frequently demanding apologies from others.
  • Imagine Trump wronged you, even in the smallest possible way. He would go to the grave denying he had ever done anything wrong to you — ever.
  • Trump acts as if he's a fictional character. But like Hercules, Donald Trump is a work of fiction.
  • No matter how many times he repeats it, Trump would not be the "best" at being a president, being in shape, fighting terrorism, selling steaks, and whatever other "best" claim he has made in the last 15 minutes.
  • He would be the best at something, though. He is the best at looking out for Donald Trump — at all costs.
  • Don’t let our country pay that price.
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-- Edited by Lawyerlady on Tuesday 29th of March 2016 04:28:05 PM

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I wonder what her co-workers in the Trump campaign have to say about her?  Not contradicting you, Dona - just would like to see both sides.  Truth is, all candidates on both sides (and politicians, for that matter) are best at 'looking out for themselves'.  



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I'll rest the entire article when I have more time, Dona.

THIS is 100% TRUE.

He certainly was never prepared or equipped to go all the way to the White House, but his ego has now taken over the driver's seat, and nothing else matters. The Donald does not fail. The Donald does not have any weakness. The Donald is his own biggest enemy.

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You know, I said pretty much the same thing about Al Gore. I WAS her, just for Gore.

And the libs absolutely refused to believe me...

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Only her side of the story and if you think Obama or any President was ready for the White House it's wishful thinking. No one knows how to be President until they have to do it. Even "gasp" Ronald Reagan had a lot to learn. What counts is if they learn it. Obviously Obama hasn't gotten it in two terms.

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I long thought this was a stunt on Trump's behalf that went further than he expected.

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So....he's doing better than he thought.

That's certainly a better position to be in than doing worse, which is what most of the candidates have done.

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His campaign manager was arrested this morning.

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So it must be Trumps fault.

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So it must be Trumps fault.

 That came from you.  I most certain didn't say that.  He was arrested for assault and battery.  On a reporter.  The reporter was a Trump supporter so she was there to do a positive piece on Trump.



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His campaign manager was arrested this morning.

 Yes, looks like he might have gotten a little rough with his grip on a (female) reporter's arm.  It will be interesting to see what happens.



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The fact that Trump is doing so well tells you just how completely sick and tired people are of politics as usual.

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I saw the video. If that was assault I'm the next President. And we know how you feel about Trump and why you posted it.

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Lawyerlady wrote:

The fact that Trump is doing so well tells you just how completely sick and tired people are of politics as usual.

 That is 100% true.



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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

His campaign manager was arrested this morning.

 Yes, looks like he might have gotten a little rough with his grip on a (female) reporter's arm.  It will be interesting to see what happens.

 Yes.  She comes from Breitbart which has endorsed Trump.  She didn't want to report it but her employer apparently told her to cover it up.  That's when she reported it to the police.  They have several video's of it.



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It's her decision to press charges or not.

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Lawyerlady wrote:

It's her decision to press charges or not.

 Yes.  It was.



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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

His campaign manager was arrested this morning.

 Yes, looks like he might have gotten a little rough with his grip on a (female) reporter's arm.  It will be interesting to see what happens.

 Yes.  She comes from Breitbart which has endorsed Trump.  She didn't want to report it but her employer apparently told her to cover it up.  That's when she reported it to the police.  They have several video's of it.

 That makes no sense????



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She didn't want to make a big deal out of it but reported what happened to her boss. She said it was just one of those "Oh BTW, things." And then her boss told her not to say anything and that she was not to speak out against Trump. THAT is when she went to the police which was totally her choice.

You want to pretend that I'm making all this stuff up but it's all over the news. He was arrested. I didn't make that sh!t up and it has nothing to do with me disliking him. It's just a fact that is in the news right now. If I wanted to be bitchy about it I would have thrown some spin into it. All I said was what happened. And the fact that he was arrested means they had some reason to arrest him. They generally don't arrest you for no reason at all. So really, stop saying everything I post is anti Trump. This was simply a freakin news story.

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Am I missing a link or a name to whom ever wrote this?


Also if she is at a super PAC I would not call her his strategist.

I thought in the past he was doing it for publicity and was going to drop out.

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Am I missing a link or a name to whom ever wrote this?


Also if she is at a super PAC I would not call her his strategist.

I thought in the past he was doing it for publicity and was going to drop out.

 I think a lot of people thought that.



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Lawyerlady wrote:

I long thought this was a stunt on Trump's behalf that went further than he expected.

 It makes PERFECT sense.

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Wait, news is on now. I apologize and correct what I said. He was charged with ONLY battery. NOT assault AND battery.

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Sanders has not created a single job. But he wants to make it harder for small businesses to hire by raising minimum wage.

Clinton does believe business creates jobs.

Trump has created 35, 000 jobs not considering the multiplier effect.

So his campaign manager screwed up.

So he was off on numbers when reacting to a tragedy.

If on the road, busy running a huge company and welcoming a new grand baby means he didn't have the correct number of those injured and dead is a sticking point, then why was it ok for our sitting excuse for a president to go dancing?



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Sanders has not created a single job. But he wants to make it harder for small businesses to hire by raising minimum wage.

Clinton does believe business creates jobs.

Trump has created 35, 000 jobs not considering the multiplier effect.

So his campaign manager screwed up.

So he was off on numbers when reacting to a tragedy.

If on the road, busy running a huge company and welcoming a new grand baby means he didn't have the correct number of those injured and dead is a sticking point, then why was it ok for our sitting excuse for a president to go dancing?

 I, for one, said Obama was wrong.  And if you're willing to excuse Trump because Obama does stuff wrong then all you're doing is lowering the bar.  Do you tell your kids it's okay to steal because their friends do?



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lilyofcourse wrote:

Sanders has not created a single job. But he wants to make it harder for small businesses to hire by raising minimum wage.

Clinton does believe business creates jobs.

Trump has created 35, 000 jobs not considering the multiplier effect.

So his campaign manager screwed up.

So he was off on numbers when reacting to a tragedy.

If on the road, busy running a huge company and welcoming a new grand baby means he didn't have the correct number of those injured and dead is a sticking point, then why was it ok for our sitting excuse for a president to go dancing?

 I, for one, said Obama was wrong.  And if you're willing to excuse Trump because Obama does stuff wrong then all you're doing is lowering the bar.  Do you tell your kids it's okay to steal because their friends do?

 It's not my bar.

I'm not getting twisted over a tweet by someone who isn't even president. 

Obama went to a ball game and partied the night away. He was excused. 

 



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I'm not getting "twisted" whatever that means. Do you honestly think being president is LESS stressful than running a campaign? You say it's no big deal he got the numbers wrong. Will it be a big deal when he's president and he gets the unemployment numbers wrong? Or will you give him a pass on that too?

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The hard truth is: Trump only cares about Trump.
And if you are one of the disaffected voters — one of the silent majority like me — who wanted a candidate who could be your voice, I want to speak directly to you as one of his biggest advocates and supporters.
He is not that voice. He is not your voice. He is only Trump's voice.
Trump is about Trump. Not one of his many wives. Not one of his many "pieces of ass." He is, at heart, a self-preservationist.

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lilyofcourse wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

Sanders has not created a single job. But he wants to make it harder for small businesses to hire by raising minimum wage.

Clinton does believe business creates jobs.

Trump has created 35, 000 jobs not considering the multiplier effect.

So his campaign manager screwed up.

So he was off on numbers when reacting to a tragedy.

If on the road, busy running a huge company and welcoming a new grand baby means he didn't have the correct number of those injured and dead is a sticking point, then why was it ok for our sitting excuse for a president to go dancing?

 I, for one, said Obama was wrong.  And if you're willing to excuse Trump because Obama does stuff wrong then all you're doing is lowering the bar.  Do you tell your kids it's okay to steal because their friends do?

 It's not my bar.

I'm not getting twisted over a tweet by someone who isn't even president. 

Obama went to a ball game and partied the night away. He was excused. 

 

 Not on THIS board.

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

I'm not getting "twisted" whatever that means. Do you honestly think being president is LESS stressful than running a campaign? You say it's no big deal he got the numbers wrong. Will it be a big deal when he's president and he gets the unemployment numbers wrong? Or will you give him a pass on that too?

 I think the point is that Obama IS the president, and he has more of a duty to the country than someone who is not. 



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flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
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lilyofcourse wrote:

Sanders has not created a single job. But he wants to make it harder for small businesses to hire by raising minimum wage.

Clinton does believe business creates jobs.

Trump has created 35, 000 jobs not considering the multiplier effect.

So his campaign manager screwed up.

So he was off on numbers when reacting to a tragedy.

If on the road, busy running a huge company and welcoming a new grand baby means he didn't have the correct number of those injured and dead is a sticking point, then why was it ok for our sitting excuse for a president to go dancing?

 I, for one, said Obama was wrong.  And if you're willing to excuse Trump because Obama does stuff wrong then all you're doing is lowering the bar.  Do you tell your kids it's okay to steal because their friends do?

 It's not my bar.

I'm not getting twisted over a tweet by someone who isn't even president. 

Obama went to a ball game and partied the night away. He was excused. 

 

 Not on THIS board.

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Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

Sanders has not created a single job. But he wants to make it harder for small businesses to hire by raising minimum wage.

Clinton does believe business creates jobs.

Trump has created 35, 000 jobs not considering the multiplier effect.

So his campaign manager screwed up.

So he was off on numbers when reacting to a tragedy.

If on the road, busy running a huge company and welcoming a new grand baby means he didn't have the correct number of those injured and dead is a sticking point, then why was it ok for our sitting excuse for a president to go dancing?

 I, for one, said Obama was wrong.  And if you're willing to excuse Trump because Obama does stuff wrong then all you're doing is lowering the bar.  Do you tell your kids it's okay to steal because their friends do?

 It's not my bar.

I'm not getting twisted over a tweet by someone who isn't even president. 

Obama went to a ball game and partied the night away. He was excused. 

 

 Not on THIS board.

flan

 Yes.  By YOU, actually.

 And I was in the MINORITY, remember?

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I'm not getting "twisted" whatever that means. Do you honestly think being president is LESS stressful than running a campaign? You say it's no big deal he got the numbers wrong. Will it be a big deal when he's president and he gets the unemployment numbers wrong? Or will you give him a pass on that too?

 I think the point is that Obama IS the president, and he has more of a duty to the country than someone who is not. 

 I agree that Obama has MORE of a duty.  But I also am looking at ALL the candidates who are running.  What they say now will only be magnified when or if they become president.



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Am I missing a link or a name to whom ever wrote this?


Also if she is at a super PAC I would not call her his strategist.

I thought in the past he was doing it for publicity and was going to drop out.

 I seem to have deleted it when I was making the wretched thing readable.  I will try and add it later. 



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Am I missing a link or a name to whom ever wrote this?


Also if she is at a super PAC I would not call her his strategist.

I thought in the past he was doing it for publicity and was going to drop out.

 I seem to have deleted it when I was making the wretched thing readable.  I will try and add it later. 

 I think I did it.  Sorry. 



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Sanders has not created a single job. But he wants to make it harder for small businesses to hire by raising minimum wage.

Clinton does believe business creates jobs.

Trump has created 35, 000 jobs not considering the multiplier effect.

So his campaign manager screwed up.

So he was off on numbers when reacting to a tragedy.

If on the road, busy running a huge company and welcoming a new grand baby means he didn't have the correct number of those injured and dead is a sticking point, then why was it ok for our sitting excuse for a president to go dancing?

 I, for one, said Obama was wrong.  And if you're willing to excuse Trump because Obama does stuff wrong then all you're doing is lowering the bar.  Do you tell your kids it's okay to steal because their friends do?

 It's not my bar.

I'm not getting twisted over a tweet by someone who isn't even president. 

Obama went to a ball game and partied the night away. He was excused. 

 

 Not on THIS board.

flan

 Yes.  By YOU, actually.

 And I was in the MINORITY, remember?

flan

 So?  It still makes your comment patently false.



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The hard truth is: Trump only cares about Trump.
And if you are one of the disaffected voters — one of the silent majority like me — who wanted a candidate who could be your voice, I want to speak directly to you as one of his biggest advocates and supporters.
He is not that voice. He is not your voice. He is only Trump's voice.
Trump is about Trump. Not one of his many wives. Not one of his many "pieces of ass." He is, at heart, a self-preservationist.

flan

Oh yeah, this makes me believe her now.  My voice for Trump just got stronger.  



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Draft-Dodger Trump Said Sleeping Around Was My ‘Personal Vietnam’

 

Draft-dodger Donald Trump once said that the danger he faced from getting sexually transmitted diseases was his own “personal Vietnam.”

In a 1997 interview with shock jock Howard Stern, Trump talked about how he had been “lucky” not to have contracted diseases when he was sleeping around.

“I’ve been so lucky in terms of that whole world. It is a dangerous world out there. It’s scary, like Vietnam. Sort of like the Vietnam-era,” Trump said in a video that resurfaced Tuesday on Buzzfeed, “It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave soldier.”

 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/16/draft-dodger-trump-said-sleeping-around-was-my-personal-vietnam.html#/articles/2016/02/16/draft-dodger-trump-said-sleeping-around-was-my-personal-vietnam.html

 

Thank you for your service, Mr. Trump. serving your country must have been hell.

Youère a great and brave soldier.



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Draft-Dodger Trump Said Sleeping Around Was My ‘Personal Vietnam’

 

Draft-dodger Donald Trump once said that the danger he faced from getting sexually transmitted diseases was his own “personal Vietnam.”

In a 1997 interview with shock jock Howard Stern, Trump talked about how he had been “lucky” not to have contracted diseases when he was sleeping around.

“I’ve been so lucky in terms of that whole world. It is a dangerous world out there. It’s scary, like Vietnam. Sort of like the Vietnam-era,” Trump said in a video that resurfaced Tuesday on Buzzfeed, “It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave soldier.”

 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/16/draft-dodger-trump-said-sleeping-around-was-my-personal-vietnam.html#/articles/2016/02/16/draft-dodger-trump-said-sleeping-around-was-my-personal-vietnam.html

 

Thank you for your service, Mr. Trump. serving your country must have been hell.

Youère a great and brave soldier.

 Well, he didn't get captured.  :)



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Draft-Dodger Trump Said Sleeping Around Was My ‘Personal Vietnam’

 

Draft-dodger Donald Trump once said that the danger he faced from getting sexually transmitted diseases was his own “personal Vietnam.”

In a 1997 interview with shock jock Howard Stern, Trump talked about how he had been “lucky” not to have contracted diseases when he was sleeping around.

“I’ve been so lucky in terms of that whole world. It is a dangerous world out there. It’s scary, like Vietnam. Sort of like the Vietnam-era,” Trump said in a video that resurfaced Tuesday on Buzzfeed, “It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave soldier.”

 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/16/draft-dodger-trump-said-sleeping-around-was-my-personal-vietnam.html#/articles/2016/02/16/draft-dodger-trump-said-sleeping-around-was-my-personal-vietnam.html

 

Thank you for your service, Mr. Trump. serving your country must have been hell.

Youère a great and brave soldier.

And Obama ate dogs.  Your point? 



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I really don't think we want to get into arguments about draft dodging. There are soooo many of them to choose from. And Trump didn't run off to Canada or claim conscientious objector status like Bernie. Trump received legal student deferments and then when those were up, he went for his military physical and was found physically unfit to serve by a military doctor.

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Ohfour wrote:
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The hard truth is: Trump only cares about Trump.
And if you are one of the disaffected voters — one of the silent majority like me — who wanted a candidate who could be your voice, I want to speak directly to you as one of his biggest advocates and supporters.
He is not that voice. He is not your voice. He is only Trump's voice.
Trump is about Trump. Not one of his many wives. Not one of his many "pieces of ass." He is, at heart, a self-preservationist.

flan

Oh yeah, this makes me believe her now.  My voice for Trump just got stronger.  

 Goody goody gumdrops...

flan



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Draft-Dodger Trump Said Sleeping Around Was My ‘Personal Vietnam’

 

Draft-dodger Donald Trump once said that the danger he faced from getting sexually transmitted diseases was his own “personal Vietnam.”

In a 1997 interview with shock jock Howard Stern, Trump talked about how he had been “lucky” not to have contracted diseases when he was sleeping around.

“I’ve been so lucky in terms of that whole world. It is a dangerous world out there. It’s scary, like Vietnam. Sort of like the Vietnam-era,” Trump said in a video that resurfaced Tuesday on Buzzfeed, “It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave soldier.”

 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/16/draft-dodger-trump-said-sleeping-around-was-my-personal-vietnam.html#/articles/2016/02/16/draft-dodger-trump-said-sleeping-around-was-my-personal-vietnam.html

 

Thank you for your service, Mr. Trump. serving your country must have been hell.

Youère a great and brave soldier.

And Obama ate dogs.  Your point? 

 This isnèt a thread about Obama, Obama, Obama. YOUR point?



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weltschmerz wrote:

Draft-Dodger Trump Said Sleeping Around Was My ‘Personal Vietnam’

 

Draft-dodger Donald Trump once said that the danger he faced from getting sexually transmitted diseases was his own “personal Vietnam.”

In a 1997 interview with shock jock Howard Stern, Trump talked about how he had been “lucky” not to have contracted diseases when he was sleeping around.

“I’ve been so lucky in terms of that whole world. It is a dangerous world out there. It’s scary, like Vietnam. Sort of like the Vietnam-era,” Trump said in a video that resurfaced Tuesday on Buzzfeed, “It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave soldier.”

 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/16/draft-dodger-trump-said-sleeping-around-was-my-personal-vietnam.html#/articles/2016/02/16/draft-dodger-trump-said-sleeping-around-was-my-personal-vietnam.html

 

Thank you for your service, Mr. Trump. serving your country must have been hell.

Youère a great and brave soldier.

 That is a HUGE slap in the face to ANY vet.

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Draft-Dodger Trump Said Sleeping Around Was My ‘Personal Vietnam’

 

Draft-dodger Donald Trump once said that the danger he faced from getting sexually transmitted diseases was his own “personal Vietnam.”

In a 1997 interview with shock jock Howard Stern, Trump talked about how he had been “lucky” not to have contracted diseases when he was sleeping around.

“I’ve been so lucky in terms of that whole world. It is a dangerous world out there. It’s scary, like Vietnam. Sort of like the Vietnam-era,” Trump said in a video that resurfaced Tuesday on Buzzfeed, “It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave soldier.”

 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/16/draft-dodger-trump-said-sleeping-around-was-my-personal-vietnam.html#/articles/2016/02/16/draft-dodger-trump-said-sleeping-around-was-my-personal-vietnam.html

 

Thank you for your service, Mr. Trump. serving your country must have been hell.

Youère a great and brave soldier.

And Obama ate dogs.  Your point? 

 This isnèt a thread about Obama, Obama, Obama. YOUR point?

It is if I want to make it one... 



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In the 1980s, Trump tried to have disabled veteran street vendors thrown off Fifth Avenue, accusing the Vietnam-era soldiers of ruining how the street in front of Trump Tower looked. Before his presidential campaign, Trump’s charitable foundation gave more to the Clintons than to veterans organizations.

From the same link.

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"Waaaah! I can't go to war!! I have ...bone spurs. Yeah...that's the ticket....bone spurs.
Pass the football."

According to Trump’s camp, the reason for this fifth and final free pass was “bone spurs” on the heels of both of the candidate’s feet which resulted in a “minor medical deferment.” But the “bone spurs” explanation is highly dubious when you consider that Trump was known as a talented student athlete who played on his prep school’s varsity football, soccer and baseball teams. According to the International Business Times, quoting a 1990 profile of the billionaire in USA Today, when it came to sports Trump was a star who “won trophies in intramural softball, basketball, softball, bowling and freshman football.”

As Trump biographer Wayne Barrett told the New York Daily News on the subject of the medical exemption, “I doubt it was a serious m
edical issue. Up to that time, he was an active athlete. It was bull****. I never heard of any foot problem other than them being well-placed in his mouth.”

www.deathandtaxesmag.com/271429/donald-trump-draft-dodger/

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I'm not getting "twisted" whatever that means. Do you honestly think being president is LESS stressful than running a campaign? You say it's no big deal he got the numbers wrong. Will it be a big deal when he's president and he gets the unemployment numbers wrong? Or will you give him a pass on that too?

 Unemployment will go down with Trump.

He knows how to actually CREATE real jobs.



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Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:

Draft-Dodger Trump Said Sleeping Around Was My ‘Personal Vietnam’

 

Draft-dodger Donald Trump once said that the danger he faced from getting sexually transmitted diseases was his own “personal Vietnam.”

In a 1997 interview with shock jock Howard Stern, Trump talked about how he had been “lucky” not to have contracted diseases when he was sleeping around.

“I’ve been so lucky in terms of that whole world. It is a dangerous world out there. It’s scary, like Vietnam. Sort of like the Vietnam-era,” Trump said in a video that resurfaced Tuesday on Buzzfeed, “It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave soldier.”

 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/16/draft-dodger-trump-said-sleeping-around-was-my-personal-vietnam.html#/articles/2016/02/16/draft-dodger-trump-said-sleeping-around-was-my-personal-vietnam.html

 

Thank you for your service, Mr. Trump. serving your country must have been hell.

Youère a great and brave soldier.

And Obama ate dogs.  Your point? 

 Her point is crystal clear. Yours...nope.

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I'm not getting "twisted" whatever that means. Do you honestly think being president is LESS stressful than running a campaign? You say it's no big deal he got the numbers wrong. Will it be a big deal when he's president and he gets the unemployment numbers wrong? Or will you give him a pass on that too?

 I think the point is that Obama IS the president, and he has more of a duty to the country than someone who is not. 

 Exactly! 



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