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Does this matter to you? [12 vote(s)]

Yes, I don't like it but it won't change me voting for him.
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No, I already hated him.
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Yes, I hope he does something to make this right.
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That guy is a smarmy mofo but it has nothing to do with Trump.
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She is a trouble maker trying to get famous.
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I was going to put this on the "defector" thread since the subject has been broached there but I didn't want to hijack. 

My problem with Trumps campaign guy is this: 

@MichelleFields you are totally delusional. I never touched you. As a matter of fact, I have never even met you.

  

 

So he tweets this after he has been accused.  And then Trump's own security film shows otherwise.  This is him, grabbing her arm.  Another photographer (the one behind her) witnessed the whole thing and has her on film reacting to the grab just moments after so it isn't as though she went home and thought about it and stewed up a story to get herself famous or try to destroy Trump.  It seems like a legit reaction to what she had just encountered. She says something along the lines of Holy Sh*t did you see how hard he grabbed me?!?! And the guy responds with, Yeah how come he thought you were some huge threat?

PHOTO: Donald Trumps campaign manager Corey Lewandowski was charged today with battery of former Breitbart reporter Michelle Fields during an incident on March 8 at the Trump National Golf Club in Jupiter, Florida, police said.

So at best, he is a liar.  At worst, he is a liar that has assaulted a woman. 

Trump would have been WAY better off saying " I'm not entirely sure of what happened, I didn't see it.  I will stand by my campaign manager until I have reason not to"  Or something like that.  He said she likely made the whole story up.  And this Cory character left no wiggle room in that tweet.  He is a straight up liar. 

I do not like how this has been handled at all.  I'm very disappointed in Trump right now. 



-- Edited by Empyreal on Tuesday 29th of March 2016 11:48:18 PM

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This is the picture she tweeted.  She said this bruised area is the result of him grabbing her.  No way to prove that, but since he lied about ever having any sort of contact with her at all..  It's his credibility that is more shadowed in my mind. 

The whole thing is just stinky. 



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I said this very thing earlier and was called a Trump hater. All she asked for was an apology. Her employer told her to shut up about all of it. Trump called her delusional. Then came the attack on her by Corey. At that point she felt like she needed to report it to the police to get it out there on the record. She didn't want it to become her word against Trump and his right hand man. Now Trump is saying it never happened. He is saying Corey is the victim here. There are several video's of it and also a witness. I'm sure I'll be told this is all media spin and I hate Trump and that I'm a big old meanie but this is sad. Trump says he doesn't want Corey's life destroyed over this but he doesn't mind Michelle's life being destroyed over it.

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I don't get what he was thinking with that Tweet? Has anybody gotten a chance to interview him? Is he claiming that isn't him in the video? Or she's not the girl in that video? Or? What the hell?

If he would have said, "It's my job to protect Mr. Trump and end interviews and that's what I did" Or something, anything that wasn't a flat out lie! I've never met you, let alone touch you. LIAR! How dumb is he?

Now, by default, she is the only one to believe here. She is the only one who has said anything that is provably true.


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Corey says he never met her, doesn't know who she is, and has never seen her face. Which is a flat out lie because she has actually interviewed Trump before. And it's his job to be with Trump 24/7. They call him a body man. Someone who surrounds the candidate. Trump is saying the video shows nothing.

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Empy, if it makes you feel any better I don't think this will effect Trump in the least bit. He will just soar higher in the polls. So don't worry about this. It's just politics.

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Well if u wanna go thru the long list of liars , cheats, crooks and thugs who have worked for Obama and Hillary then maybe i will care about some two bit campaign manager.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

Well if u wanna go thru the long list of liars , cheats, crooks and thugs who have worked for Obama and Hillary then maybe i will care about some two bit campaign manager.


 So does that make it okay? 



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You think I'm not outraged by Hillary and Obama? Apparently you have selective reading. I think Obama has been a dismal failure of a president and has screwed this country over a thousand times. He doesn't even act like he cares about this country most of the time. He's gone out of his way to skirt the laws and do things he shouldn't have and do things that have screwed up this country. Can we say Obamacare anyone? Hillary? I don't have enough bandwith to list all the illegal, horrible, and totally disgusting things she's done. So I have no idea where you get that I have no outrage when it comes to them. I have plenty of it. TONS of it in fact.

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Empy, if it makes you feel any better I don't think this will effect Trump in the least bit. He will just soar higher in the polls. So don't worry about this. It's just politics.


 That doesn't make me feel any better. 

I feel like he is just like any other corrupt person.  Like corrupt police who cover for each other.  Corrupt politicians hide things and commit cronyism, it pisses me off.  And here, I thought he was different but no, apparently not.  He will cover for his boy even though he is caught in a visible lie. 

Trump could have said, "I didn't see it"  and that would have been true.  Now he has the tape, he could just say "I don't know why Cory is denying that he touched this woman and now, having all of the facts, I think he owes her an apology and he will not be my "body" person any longer"    It's so simple!  But no.  He doubles down on it. 

Come on Trump, don't be another dishonest douche!  And I'm not saying everything he says is gospel true.  But what I am saying is, don't deny something that is so undeniably blatantly true.  This is why I liked the idea of getting a non-politician.  They lie.  Right to our faces!  I'm tired of the disrespect.

I did not have sex with that woman. 

I didn't think having my own server would be inappropriate as secretary of state.

That attack was the result of a youtube video.. 

If you like your health plan you can keep your health plan!

We have found weapons of mass destruction.  And on and on... 

Okay, so this lie is smaller than all of those but it proves that he is dishonest and corrupt in the same nose-thumbing way as all the other bastards.  I don't like it when people lie right to my face.  I'm not a fool.  He's calling us all fools.

 I never minded his abrasive or harsh talk.  I felt like he didn't care to come up with something PC enough for 320 million people, he just spoke the truth as he saw it and it's okay with me because it's more important to be honest than the fake pandering liars that have trained in the art of deception in order to hold office. Now it appears that he is just the same.  A dill weed that looks right into the camera and lies. 



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Empy, I truly am sorry you're feeling this way. I do feel bad when someone invests their hopes in a candidate and later feels let down and misled. Regardless of how I feel about the candidate I can still feel badly for you. You obviously invested a lot of time and thought into your decision. It's a hard pill to swallow when you feel betrayed by someone you put that much time and energy into supporting.

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Trump has been a bald faced liar from day one. It's like he doesn't care what the truth is.

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Trump has been a bald faced liar from day one. It's like he doesn't care what the truth is.


 The Donald makes his own truth...

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Well if u wanna go thru the long list of liars , cheats, crooks and thugs who have worked for Obama and Hillary then maybe i will care about some two bit campaign manager.


 That's NOT the point here & you know it.

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Everyone hires people and you dont' always know what those people will do. He grabbed her arm. It's not the end of the world. It's not like she is laying in the bottom of the river with Vince Foster.

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Empy, I truly am sorry you're feeling this way. I do feel bad when someone invests their hopes in a candidate and later feels let down and misled. Regardless of how I feel about the candidate I can still feel badly for you. You obviously invested a lot of time and thought into your decision. It's a hard pill to swallow when you feel betrayed by someone you put that much time and energy into supporting.


   All of these candidates are flawed human beings.  If you are pinning your hopes on some politician as your Savior you are going to be sadly disappointed.  Govt is not your Savior in life.  You choose people that you hope can enact some good or at least steer the ship in the right direction.  Sorry, but this is a rough world.  And, nicey nice isn't going to cut it when dealing with Isis and real world problems.  Is Donald a jerk at times?  Yes.  But, he is the only one in my opinion who will seriously deal with border issues and the ridiculous trade policies that have destroyed all the manufacturing jobs in this country.



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I'm surprised it was the campaign manager that is being accused. Trump is surrounded by body guards and I would think that when she grabbed Trump's arm the body guards would have swarmed her. I'm not surprised that the prosecutor is an active member of Hillary's campaign in Florida.

Not that I advocate it, but I recall that during the a recent past election cycle, a reporter was thrown down on the ground after asking questions of Hillary.

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The point is is that they are both flatly denying something that was caught on camera.
It isn't what happened that is the big problem, it is how they are handling it.

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Meh, don't care. Maybe next time the woman won't try to get in people's faces.

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Don't care.

These reporters think they can go anywhere they want and shove a mic or camera in people's faces. Well, sometimes you can't.

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She had a pen in her hand, very close to Trump. What if the pen had poison in it and she had poked Trump with that pen?

This does not change my mind on my vote on iota. The media lies continually and has not addressed the "what if" scenario.

And yes, poison pens do exist. Anyone remember the British spy jabbed with a poisoned pen a few years back?

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She had a pen in her hand, very close to Trump. What if the pen had poison in it and she had poked Trump with that pen?

This does not change my mind on my vote on iota. The media lies continually and has not addressed the "what if" scenario.

And yes, poison pens do exist. Anyone remember the British spy jabbed with a poisoned pen a few years back?


 We flew in the fall of 2001.

On the way BACK, my tweezers and nail clippers were confiscated. Now, it's no big deal. But someone could certainly injure someone with either of those things.

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The point is is that they are both flatly denying something that was caught on camera.
It isn't what happened that is the big problem, it is how they are handling it.


 Yes.  It is sad that they are denying it.  Trump has not claimed she grabbed his arm.  And the video doesn't show her grabbing his arm.  She didn't have a mic so there was nothing to shove in his face.  She works for a media outlet that supports Trump and she was asking him a question.  It really isn't a big conspiracy that she was trying to poison him with her secret poison pen.  Yes, they exist.  That is so far from the truth here though.  While everyone deflects and tries to make her look bad the truth is undeniable.  Corey grabbed her arm and jerked her hard enough to leave bruises and then denied ever even seeing her.  He lied several times.  But it's much easier to concoct stories about poison pens than to admit someone in his camp lied.



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I think the next time a member of the media grabs someone, they should be prosecuted.

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As far as I'm concerned, he was doing his job.



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I think the next time a member of the media grabs someone, they should be prosecuted.


 That's the point people are missing.  She DIDN'T grab anyone.  Trump even says she didn't grab him.  And the video's are very clear that she didn't grab him.  All she did was ask him a question.  At that point he grabbed her arm and jerked her away.  If she had even laid her hand on Trump's arm I could understand his reaction.  BUT SHE DID NOT.  She never touched Trump.



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That's not what was said on the news last night.

She was pulling Trump's arm.

Either way. She shouldn't have been that close.



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Watch the video. She never touched Trump.

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I think the next time a member of the media grabs someone, they should be prosecuted.


 That's the point people are missing.  She DIDN'T grab anyone.  Trump even says she didn't grab him.  And the video's are very clear that she didn't grab him.  All she did was ask him a question.  At that point he grabbed her arm and jerked her away.  If she had even laid her hand on Trump's arm I could understand his reaction.  BUT SHE DID NOT.  She never touched Trump.


 I didn't say she did - but others do all the time.  And they get up all close and annoying shoving microphones in your face.  Back off!  Respect personal space!  



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I think the next time a member of the media grabs someone, they should be prosecuted.


 That's the point people are missing.  She DIDN'T grab anyone.  Trump even says she didn't grab him.  And the video's are very clear that she didn't grab him.  All she did was ask him a question.  At that point he grabbed her arm and jerked her away.  If she had even laid her hand on Trump's arm I could understand his reaction.  BUT SHE DID NOT.  She never touched Trump.


 I didn't say she did - but others do all the time.  And they get up all close and annoying shoving microphones in your face.  Back off!  Respect personal space!  


 And I DID say if that were the case the media SHOULD be held responsible.  So I don't get the point here.  We're not really discussing OTHER cases.  We're discussing THIS case and in THIS case she didn't.  But I agree 100% that SOME of the media is grabby and rude.  I think they should in no way get special treatment because they're press.  If they cross the lines they should get punished equally.



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And the whole point of what Empy is trying to say is that Corey tweeted he never met her, never saw her, never knew her. That is an outright lie. Emply is upset at how Trump handled his lie.

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I think the next time a member of the media grabs someone, they should be prosecuted.


 That's the point people are missing.  She DIDN'T grab anyone.  Trump even says she didn't grab him.  And the video's are very clear that she didn't grab him.  All she did was ask him a question.  At that point he grabbed her arm and jerked her away.  If she had even laid her hand on Trump's arm I could understand his reaction.  BUT SHE DID NOT.  She never touched Trump.


 I didn't say she did - but others do all the time.  And they get up all close and annoying shoving microphones in your face.  Back off!  Respect personal space!  


 And I DID say if that were the case the media SHOULD be held responsible.  So I don't get the point here.  We're not really discussing OTHER cases.  We're discussing THIS case and in THIS case she didn't.  But I agree 100% that SOME of the media is grabby and rude.  I think they should in no way get special treatment because they're press.  If they cross the lines they should get punished equally.


 Well, I wasn't specifically talking to you so I don't need to have whatever point specifically makes you happy. 

 

 



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And the whole point of what Empy is trying to say is that Corey tweeted he never met her, never saw her, never knew her. That is an outright lie. Emply is upset at how Trump handled his lie.


 I get Empy's point and I totally agree with it.  But THIS, on the scale of the other crap?  Meh.



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Snark away. You don't have to type anything that makes me happy. We are talking about how Corey handled this situation and everyone is bringing other nonsense into it that doesn't apply. Empy is saying she is not happy that he lied. I am simply about what Empy specifically posted.

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Snark away. You don't have to type anything that makes me happy. We are talking about how Corey handled this situation and everyone is bringing other nonsense into it that doesn't apply. Empy is saying she is not happy that he lied. I am simply about what Empy specifically posted.


 It wasn't snark.  You said you didn't understand what point I was trying to make because of what you said.  If I was applying it to what you said, I would have quoted you.



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And the whole point of what Empy is trying to say is that Corey tweeted he never met her, never saw her, never knew her. That is an outright lie. Emply is upset at how Trump handled his lie.


 I get Empy's point and I totally agree with it.  But THIS, on the scale of the other crap?  Meh.


 And if his lying doesn't bother you that's fine.  If the way Trump handled it is fine with you then more power to you.  Obviously Empy put a lot of thought into her decision.



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Snark away. You don't have to type anything that makes me happy. We are talking about how Corey handled this situation and everyone is bringing other nonsense into it that doesn't apply. Empy is saying she is not happy that he lied. I am simply about what Empy specifically posted.


 It wasn't snark.  You said you didn't understand what point I was trying to make because of what you said.  If I was applying it to what you said, I would have quoted you.


 Um, you DID quote me.



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And the whole point of what Empy is trying to say is that Corey tweeted he never met her, never saw her, never knew her. That is an outright lie. Emply is upset at how Trump handled his lie.


 I get Empy's point and I totally agree with it.  But THIS, on the scale of the other crap?  Meh.


 And if his lying doesn't bother you that's fine.  If the way Trump handled it is fine with you then more power to you.  Obviously Empy put a lot of thought into her decision.


 I'm not sure where you get Trump lied in the OP.  The only one I see lying in the OP is Corey.  Is part of the article missing?



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Snark away. You don't have to type anything that makes me happy. We are talking about how Corey handled this situation and everyone is bringing other nonsense into it that doesn't apply. Empy is saying she is not happy that he lied. I am simply about what Empy specifically posted.


 It wasn't snark.  You said you didn't understand what point I was trying to make because of what you said.  If I was applying it to what you said, I would have quoted you.


 Um, you DID quote me.


 Not to begin with I didn't.  



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Isn't that Trump in front of her in that picture? So isn't it entirely possible he didn't see her, meet her, or know her? Do you remember every person you've ever met? If so, kudos to you. Personally, I don't even remember people who work on my floor.

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Isn't that Trump in front of her in that picture? So isn't it entirely possible he didn't see her, meet her, or know her? Do you remember every person you've ever met? If so, kudos to you. Personally, I don't even remember people who work on my floor.


 Trump may or may not have seen her.  THAT is not the question here.  We're talking about his campaign manager who tweeted that out.  And Michelle Fields has interviewed Trump several times.  So Trump and Corey may not have known her name right off the bat but they do know of her.  But I think you're confused.  Trump did not twee that he did not know her.  Corey tweeted that.



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Snark away. You don't have to type anything that makes me happy. We are talking about how Corey handled this situation and everyone is bringing other nonsense into it that doesn't apply. Empy is saying she is not happy that he lied. I am simply about what Empy specifically posted.


 It wasn't snark.  You said you didn't understand what point I was trying to make because of what you said.  If I was applying it to what you said, I would have quoted you.


 Um, you DID quote me.


 Not to begin with I didn't.  


I apologize.  Your very first post did not quote me.  You are correct.  After that you started quoting me.



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And the whole point of what Empy is trying to say is that Corey tweeted he never met her, never saw her, never knew her. That is an outright lie. Emply is upset at how Trump handled his lie.


 I get Empy's point and I totally agree with it.  But THIS, on the scale of the other crap?  Meh.


 And if his lying doesn't bother you that's fine.  If the way Trump handled it is fine with you then more power to you.  Obviously Empy put a lot of thought into her decision.


 I'm not sure where you get Trump lied in the OP.  The only one I see lying in the OP is Corey.  Is part of the article missing?


 It was a bunch of tweets, Megan Kelly went through them last night and the changes to the story.

 

It started of with Hope Hicks.  Out of a 100 people there were no witness and no video.

Lewandoski.  Never touched her. Never met her. She is delusional.

Trump. Talked to the Secret Service that night nothing happened. Lewandoski did even no about the incident until the next day. Maybe she made the bruises herself.

Once the video surfaced the it seems now to be maybe he grabbed her to protect Trump.  Maybe she touched Trump.

 



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I watched the video. She chases after and touches Trump and the campaign manager pulls her away. So, yes, he grabbed her. She wasn't supposed to be asking questions after the press conference.

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Lawyerlady wrote:
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And the whole point of what Empy is trying to say is that Corey tweeted he never met her, never saw her, never knew her. That is an outright lie. Emply is upset at how Trump handled his lie.


 I get Empy's point and I totally agree with it.  But THIS, on the scale of the other crap?  Meh.


 And if his lying doesn't bother you that's fine.  If the way Trump handled it is fine with you then more power to you.  Obviously Empy put a lot of thought into her decision.


 I'm not sure where you get Trump lied in the OP.  The only one I see lying in the OP is Corey.  Is part of the article missing?


 It was a bunch of tweets, Megan Kelly went through them last night and the changes to the story.

 

It started of with Hope Hicks.  Out of a 100 people there were no witness and no video.

Lewandoski.  Never touched her. Never met her. She is delusional.

Trump. Talked to the Secret Service that night nothing happened. Lewandoski did even no about the incident until the next day. Maybe she made the bruises herself.

Once the video surfaced the it seems now to be maybe he grabbed her to protect Trump.  Maybe she touched Trump.

 


 I was wondering where the secret service was.  How did this even happen?  

 



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He just reminds me of the cartoon someone posted of the kid dumping the cereal on the floor denying it while the parent watches. He denies things on tape , and over the dumbest things.

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He just reminds me of the cartoon someone posted of the kid dumping the cereal on the floor denying it while the parent watches. He denies things on tape , and over the dumbest things.


 Yeah.  They should never have denied it.  I don't think pulling her away was wrong. 



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I watched the video. She chases after and touches Trump and the campaign manager pulls her away. So, yes, he grabbed her. She wasn't supposed to be asking questions after the press conference.


 They could have just said that to start with, instead of denying it and calling her delusional.



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I watched the video. She chases after and touches Trump and the campaign manager pulls her away. So, yes, he grabbed her. She wasn't supposed to be asking questions after the press conference.


 They could have just said that to start with, instead of denying it and calling her delusional.


 I agree.  But I really don't care.  She did something wrong, he did something wrong.



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