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just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

Colorado- Atheist & Satanic Literature Distributed in Schools

Bonny22Pye · Guru

This is why religion should not be in schools period.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

This is why I am on the fence about religion in schools.

If one is ok, they should all be ok.

That said, who distributed it?

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

From the article, it looks like the Satanic and Atheist groups distributed the pamphlets.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

So an outside group was allowed to distribute literature on campus?

Where is the freedom from religion group on this?

Domestic Engineer · Guru

If the Gideons can no longer hand out Bibles at school, neither should the atheist be able to distribute their literature.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

DELTA, Colo. (KJCT) - Some Delta parents are in an uproar, after both atheist and satanic literature will be distributed in Delta County high schools and middle schools on April 1st. The Western Colorado Atheists and Freethinkers say they are working with the Freedom From Religion Foundation to offer Delta students, alternative ways of thinking.

The Delta County School District says that their policy reads that they cannot discriminate against any groups or organizations when it comes to non-curricular materials. The only exceptions are if the material promotes hostility or violence, commercial purposes by advertising a product, interferes with the schools, promotes candidacy in an election or is obscene or pornographic, according to a press release by the Delta School District.

Kurt Clay, with the Delta School District says if they are going to make literature for things such as Boy Scouts, 4H or other organizations available, they have to allow all types of information to be available to students.

In December, Gideon bibles were distributed to Delta County students. The Western Colorado Atheist and Freethinkers say the distribution of those bibles prompted their desire to distribute atheist and satanic material as well.

"This is the other side of that,” explained Kurt Clay, the Assistant Superintendent. “The policy says we cannot discriminate what is handed out, we just have to follow the process.”

The process means that atheist literature will not be handed out to students, but rather placed on a table in a school’s library. This will allow students to pick it up the materials only if they wish to.

Ann Landman with the Western Colorado Atheist and Freethinkers says the issue here, is Freedom of Speech.

"Students are not only getting a lesson about the federal laws and our constitution, but also a different point of view that you can find around the world,” Landman explained.

The Delta School District says they are looking into revising their policy, or makes changes to it, to allow the district to continue providing materials that benefit students, but do not include religious matters or beliefs.

Western Colorado Atheist and Freethinkers says they are hoping to see this change of policy, to separate religion and schools

weltschmerz · Guru

If Gideon bibles are allowed, then this should be, as well.

"In December, Gideon bibles were distributed to Delta County students. The Western Colorado Atheist and Freethinkers say the distribution of those bibles prompted their desire to distribute atheist and satanic material as well."

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

If they allowed Bibles to be distributed then it is only fair to allow the atheist and satanic stuff too. If you allow one, you have to allow all. That's why there should be NO religion in schools. If you want my kid to pray, then I want your kid to say an atheist pledge.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I am not afraid of other religions or nonreligions. Bring it on. Just make sure Christianity can be expressed and practiced.

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
If Gideon bibles are allowed, then this should be, as well.

"In December, Gideon bibles were distributed to Delta County students. The Western Colorado Atheist and Freethinkers say the distribution of those bibles prompted their desire to distribute atheist and satanic material as well."

I totally agree. I think neither should be allowed.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
If Gideon bibles are allowed, then this should be, as well.

"In December, Gideon bibles were distributed to Delta County students. The Western Colorado Atheist and Freethinkers say the distribution of those bibles prompted their desire to distribute atheist and satanic material as well."
I totally agree. I think neither should be allowed.

I agree. And it ANY are to be distributed - they should have parental consent.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
This is why I am on the fence about religion in schools.

If one is ok, they should all be ok.

That said, who distributed it?

I'm not on the fence. I love Jesus, and I want my child taught properly. The schools can't even teach math properly, I certainly don't want them teaching my kid religion.

Ohfour · Hooker

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
This is why I am on the fence about religion in schools.

If one is ok, they should all be ok.

That said, who distributed it?
I'm not on the fence. I love Jesus, and I want my child taught properly. The schools can't even teach math properly, I certainly don't want them teaching my kid religion.

Amen...1000 times...

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Ohfour wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
This is why I am on the fence about religion in schools.

If one is ok, they should all be ok.

That said, who distributed it?
I'm not on the fence. I love Jesus, and I want my child taught properly. The schools can't even teach math properly, I certainly don't want them teaching my kid religion.
Amen...1000 times...

That's what I'm saying.

I want my child to learn about God. I don't want them exposed to satanism and atheists and those teachings.

So I am on the fence.

I believe a person should have the freedom to practice their religion, at the same time, I don't want other religions taught to my kids by anyone but me.

Does that make sense? Did I explain that right?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
This is why I am on the fence about religion in schools.

If one is ok, they should all be ok.

That said, who distributed it?
I'm not on the fence. I love Jesus, and I want my child taught properly. The schools can't even teach math properly, I certainly don't want them teaching my kid religion.
Amen...1000 times...
That's what I'm saying.
I want my child to learn about God. I don't want them exposed to satanism and atheists and those teachings.
So I am on the fence.
I believe a person should have the freedom to practice their religion, at the same time, I don't want other religions taught to my kids by anyone but me.
Does that make sense? Did I explain that right?

Then be happy with the system most schools have. No teacher or school led religion. Embrace it. Your kid still has the right to talk about God and pray at school.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

That's why I asked where the freedom from religion bunch are with this?

Why are they not threatening law suits and protesting the satanist and atheists?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
That's why I asked where the freedom from religion bunch are with this?

Why are they not threatening law suits and protesting the satanist and atheists?

Because they ARE the freedom from religion bunch.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Ah. I see.

Hypocrites.

Sounds like something Satan would do.

Deceive and mislead and all.

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Ah. I see.

Hypocrites.

Sounds like something Satan would do.

Deceive and mislead and all.

Hypocrites? Not even a little.

Most Satanists don't actually believe in Satan.

They're protesting the Gideon bibles being handed out. The people who OBJECT are the hypocrites.

They want their religion in the schools, then have hissy fits if another group wants to do the same.

weltschmerz · Guru

Why do Satanists worship The Devil?

We don’t. Satanists are atheists. We see the universe as being indifferent to us, and so all morals and values are subjective human constructions.

Our position is to be self-centered, with ourselves being the most important person (the “God”) of our subjective universe, so we are sometimes said to worship ourselves. Our current High Priest Gilmore calls this the step moving from being an atheist to being an “I-Theist.”

Satan to us is a symbol of pride, liberty and individualism, and it serves as an external metaphorical projection of our highest personal potential. We do not believe in Satan as a being or person.

www.churchofsatan.com/faq-fundamental-beliefs.php

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Satanism and Atheism are not religions. You cannot compare them to religion.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Ah. I see.

Hypocrites.

Sounds like something Satan would do.

Deceive and mislead and all.
Hypocrites? Not even a little.
Most Satanists don't actually believe in Satan.
They're protesting the Gideon bibles being handed out. The people who OBJECT are the hypocrites.
They want their religion in the schools, then have hissy fits if another group wants to do the same.

The hypocrites are the loses of freedom from religion.

They do not want freedom from religion.

They want to quelsh Christians.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
Why do Satanists worship The Devil?

We don’t. Satanists are atheists. We see the universe as being indifferent to us, and so all morals and values are subjective human constructions.

Our position is to be self-centered, with ourselves being the most important person (the “God”) of our subjective universe, so we are sometimes said to worship ourselves. Our current High Priest Gilmore calls this the step moving from being an atheist to being an “I-Theist.”

Satan to us is a symbol of pride, liberty and individualism, and it serves as an external metaphorical projection of our highest personal potential. We do not believe in Satan as a being or person.

www.churchofsatan.com/faq-fundamental-beliefs.php

This is the statement of someone doomed to Hell.

They've fallen for the lies of Lucifer.

It's the words of death.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

Self-centered individuals are exactly that, self-centered.

Self-centered individuals generally do not function well in society.

Self-centered individuals make up the general population of prisons.

Self-centered individuals generally lack empathy for others.

Self-centeredness is a symptom of a psychopath.

Self-centeredness is not a good quality, IMHO.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
Why do Satanists worship The Devil?

We don’t. Satanists are atheists. We see the universe as being indifferent to us, and so all morals and values are subjective human constructions.

Our position is to be self-centered, with ourselves being the most important person (the “God”) of our subjective universe, so we are sometimes said to worship ourselves. Our current High Priest Gilmore calls this the step moving from being an atheist to being an “I-Theist.”

Satan to us is a symbol of pride, liberty and individualism, and it serves as an external metaphorical projection of our highest personal potential. We do not believe in Satan as a being or person.

www.churchofsatan.com/faq-fundamental-beliefs.php

We? So, you are a professing Satanist then?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
Why do Satanists worship The Devil?

We don’t. Satanists are atheists. We see the universe as being indifferent to us, and so all morals and values are subjective human constructions.

Our position is to be self-centered, with ourselves being the most important person (the “God”) of our subjective universe, so we are sometimes said to worship ourselves. Our current High Priest Gilmore calls this the step moving from being an atheist to being an “I-Theist.”

Satan to us is a symbol of pride, liberty and individualism, and it serves as an external metaphorical projection of our highest personal potential. We do not believe in Satan as a being or person.

www.churchofsatan.com/faq-fundamental-beliefs.php

Well, said. Satan's sin was the sin of Pride. The Sin of trying to make Himself equal with God.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

So, based on what you wrote, all that baloney about atheism is just that, pure baloney. If your position is self centered and yourself is the most important person, then helping others is only your philosophy To the Extent that it serves you. So, there you go. You finally admitted exactly what atheism is. Thank you! LOL!!

weltschmerz · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
So, based on what you wrote, all that baloney about atheism is just that, pure baloney. If your position is self centered and yourself is the most important person, then helping others is only your philosophy To the Extent that it serves you. So, there you go. You finally admitted exactly what atheism is. Thank you! LOL!!

Didn't actually read the link, did you?

It was questions posed to Satanists. I am not a Satanist.

The OP mentioned Satanic literature placed in schools, did it not?

So again...evidently, Satanists do not believe in Satan,.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Wednesday 30th of March 2016 10:12:41 PM

weltschmerz · Guru

And one more time with feeling.....
If you can push Gideon bibles in schools, then you can push everything from Hinduism to Buddhism to Judaism to Scientology to faith systems with no deity at all.

WYSIWYG · Guru

It's only fair. If we want the Bible in school then we have to let the other side in as well. Otherwise the public school would be in violation of the First Amendment.

A agree with Lawyerlady. They can't even teach math (2 + 2 = 5 is acceptable as long as you can show the correct formula to get the result? Really?), how the heck are they going to tackle religion?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
Satanism and Atheism are not religions. You cannot compare them to religion.

They are however, belief systems.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Satanism and Atheism are not religions. You cannot compare them to religion.
They are however, belief systems.
flan

Yeah - belief in selfishness and self-centeredness.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Satanism and Atheism are not religions. You cannot compare them to religion.
They are however, belief systems.
flan

Yes, everyone has a belief in worldview. However, they are not all equal in value to the world, society and humanity.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
And one more time with feeling.....
If you can push Gideon bibles in schools, then you can push everything from Hinduism to Buddhism to Judaism to Scientology to faith systems with no deity at all.

The schools cannot distribute materials. However the students may to one another.

Tinydancer · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Satanism and Atheism are not religions. You cannot compare them to religion.
They are however, belief systems.
flan
Yeah - belief in selfishness and self-centeredness.

huskerbb · Guru

It depends on what we are talking about.

Distributing religious materials should not be allowed.

People need to get over crap like singing a religious Christmas carol.