Is this autobiographical, LGS?

But it's okay...the cashier must have been on her period...

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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It wasn't the cashier flan, lol.

You know, a long, long time ago, in a land far way, MEN used to have a sense of Pride and Honor and taking govt handouts was something they would not have done. However, the fault doesnt' lie with people who can't get jobs. What jobs? Govt has destroyed our industries, shut down our energy sector, coal miners are losing their jobs right and left and the only jobs left are fast food. So, just another example of why we need to elect Trump to revitalize our economy so people can get jobs.

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Lol! The Trump who said "China is stealing our jobs?"  That Trump?

Gotta start somewhere Welts. The Hag isn't talking about it at all.

Yeah, the one who actually has run a business, hired employees and run a payroll. The one who has had business failures and business successes. The one who is not a professional politician glomming off society with lies political BS. That one.

He is young and is at least working. I have no problem helping someone who is trying.

She's not wrong. NO ONE "earns" assistance. The only "assistance" you "earn" is your damn paycheck.

weltschmerz wrote:

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Is this autobiographical, LGS?

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Tignanello wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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It wasn't the cashier flan, lol.

You know, a long, long time ago, in a land far way, MEN used to have a sense of Pride and Honor and taking govt handouts was something they would not have done. However, the fault doesnt' lie with people who can't get jobs. What jobs? Govt has destroyed our industries, shut down our energy sector, coal miners are losing their jobs right and left and the only jobs left are fast food. So, just another example of why we need to elect Trump to revitalize our economy so people can get jobs.

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 Be grateful you live in Canada, my friend.

flan

Well, let's say he works as a meat packer for $15 an hour (giving the benefit of a higher wage), that's $600 a week for 40 hours, plus $270 for an extra 12 hours each week (assume 52 hours a week at time and a half for the overtime).

He makes $870 a week. That's $45,240.00 a year assuming 52 weeks of work or $3770.00 a month.  He would need to have a family of 7 to get food stamps.  

 

Income Chart

(Oct. 1, 2015 through Sept. 30, 2016)

Household size	Gross monthly income (130 percent of poverty)	Net monthly income (100 percent of poverty)
1	$1,276	$ 981
2	1,726	1,328
3	2,177	1,675
4	2,628	2,021
5	3,078	2,368
6	3,529	2,715
7	3,980	3,061
8	4,430	3,408
Each additional member	+451	+347

 

 

Now, of course, if he's only making $11 an hour, then, assuming the same hours, he's only making $33,176.00 a year, or $2,765.67 a month, and a family of 5 would be eligible. 

Lawyerlady wrote:

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Well, let's say he works as a meat packer for $15 an hour (giving the benefit of a higher wage), that's $600 a week for 40 hours, plus $270 for an extra 12 hours each week (assume 52 hours a week at time and a half for the overtime).

He makes $870 a week. That's $45,240.00 a year assuming 52 weeks of work or $3770.00 a month.  He would need to have a family of 7 to get food stamps.  

 

Income Chart

(Oct. 1, 2015 through Sept. 30, 2016)

Household size	Gross monthly income (130 percent of poverty)	Net monthly income (100 percent of poverty)
1	$1,276	$ 981
2	1,726	1,328
3	2,177	1,675
4	2,628	2,021
5	3,078	2,368
6	3,529	2,715
7	3,980	3,061
8	4,430	3,408
Each additional member	+451	+347

 

 

Now, of course, if he's only making $11 an hour, then, assuming the same hours, he's only making $33,176.00 a year, or $2,765.67 a month, and a family of 5 would be eligible. 

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 And he had only one kid with him--so maybe only a family of three.  Plus, what's his wife doing?  

flan327 wrote:

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Tignanello wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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It wasn't the cashier flan, lol.

You know, a long, long time ago, in a land far way, MEN used to have a sense of Pride and Honor and taking govt handouts was something they would not have done. However, the fault doesnt' lie with people who can't get jobs. What jobs? Govt has destroyed our industries, shut down our energy sector, coal miners are losing their jobs right and left and the only jobs left are fast food. So, just another example of why we need to elect Trump to revitalize our economy so people can get jobs.

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 Be grateful you live in Canada, my friend.

flan

 

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 Why?  Do Canadian men lack pride and self sufficiency?

Lawyerlady wrote:

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Well, let's say he works as a meat packer for $15 an hour (giving the benefit of a higher wage), that's $600 a week for 40 hours, plus $270 for an extra 12 hours each week (assume 52 hours a week at time and a half for the overtime).

He makes $870 a week. That's $45,240.00 a year assuming 52 weeks of work or $3770.00 a month.  He would need to have a family of 7 to get food stamps.  

 

Income Chart

(Oct. 1, 2015 through Sept. 30, 2016)

Household size	Gross monthly income (130 percent of poverty)	Net monthly income (100 percent of poverty)
1	$1,276	$ 981
2	1,726	1,328
3	2,177	1,675
4	2,628	2,021
5	3,078	2,368
6	3,529	2,715
7	3,980	3,061
8	4,430	3,408
Each additional member	+451	+347

 

 

Now, of course, if he's only making $11 an hour, then, assuming the same hours, he's only making $33,176.00 a year, or $2,765.67 a month, and a family of 5 would be eligible. 

 If he makes $7.25/hr x60 hrs, that's $435 a week or  $22, 620 per year.  Why would you assume $15 an hour?  

huskerbb wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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Well, let's say he works as a meat packer for $15 an hour (giving the benefit of a higher wage), that's $600 a week for 40 hours, plus $270 for an extra 12 hours each week (assume 52 hours a week at time and a half for the overtime).

He makes $870 a week. That's $45,240.00 a year assuming 52 weeks of work or $3770.00 a month.  He would need to have a family of 7 to get food stamps.  

 

Income Chart

(Oct. 1, 2015 through Sept. 30, 2016)

Household size	Gross monthly income (130 percent of poverty)	Net monthly income (100 percent of poverty)
1	$1,276	$ 981
2	1,726	1,328
3	2,177	1,675
4	2,628	2,021
5	3,078	2,368
6	3,529	2,715
7	3,980	3,061
8	4,430	3,408
Each additional member	+451	+347

 

 

Now, of course, if he's only making $11 an hour, then, assuming the same hours, he's only making $33,176.00 a year, or $2,765.67 a month, and a family of 5 would be eligible. 

 If he makes $7.25/hr x60 hrs, that's $435 a week or  $22, 620 per year.  Why would you assume $15 an hour?  

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 good God.  Why wouldn't he?  He's a grown man.  Most kids I know make more than that.  My son makes almost 15 And he's been doing his job for less than a year.

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   So what?  Not everyone makes a decent wage Husker.  There are a lot of minimum wage jobs, yes.  But, even at 60 hrs that isnt much.

Yeah - most do NOT start out like that.

He looks young. Is he raising the child himself? Day care can be $200 a week. Then the other expenses of daily living on top of it can take every cent.

I see a guy with a kid trying to be a father.

He is having a hard time making ends meet.

The foul mouthed woman needs her trap punched.

So, what is the concensus ?

If trump creates jobs will Americans do them, or only if the wage goes up.

Depends on the wage. If it costs more to get childcare and put gas in the car than the job pays...people probably won't take them.

But, I had 3 kids.

Mellow Momma wrote:

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I just searched jobs in my hometown. I found nothing for over $10/Hr. Forklift operator needed to work 12 hour days - starts at $9.50/hr. Warehouse laborer, same pay. Lumberyard sales associate - $10/hr. Campground facilities technician - minimum wage.

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 That can't be right. 

 

 

 

Lawyerlady wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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He looks young. Is he raising the child himself? Day care can be $200 a week. Then the other expenses of daily living on top of it can take every cent.

I see a guy with a kid trying to be a father.

He is having a hard time making ends meet.

The foul mouthed woman needs her trap punched.

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 I agree. 

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 Considering it was Wal-Mart, I'm surprised no one did!

flan

Lawyerlady wrote:

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Mellow Momma wrote:

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I just searched jobs in my hometown. I found nothing for over $10/Hr. Forklift operator needed to work 12 hour days - starts at $9.50/hr. Warehouse laborer, same pay. Lumberyard sales associate - $10/hr. Campground facilities technician - minimum wage.

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 That can't be right. 

 

 

 

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 Lol. Well it is. I searched the want ads in my hometown and that's what I found. $15/hr jobs are really hard to find there (and a lot of other places as well). Further searching showed that for some jobs, they wanted a college education but were offering $12/hr. That's ridiculous. But that's the market in a lot of areas. 

 

And if you read the poster's comments about the original video, the man was using WIC. That is a program made especially for people who are working and have a low income. He was not using EBT/SNAP. It was WIC which is specifically for the working poor and they can only purchase nutritious food with it. So I think we need to relax a bit on the judgement. 

I know a lot of people who barely make $10 to $15 an hour. So, if you want to belittle them you may. But, we have a lot of service positions at the school and they start at $9.25. Eventually they make up to $12 or so but that is after years.
There are lots of jobs locally that are minimum wage or about $10 per hour. My son was just offered a job, who is graduating in June with a 2 yr associate's in electrical/building construction for exactly $10 an hour. It was out of town and we would have to move him there and get an apt and it really didn't sound like a job with much potential so we told him to turn it down and look for other jobs. Yes, if he gets a $10 locally, then maybe he can start with that, but degreed people aren't making a whole lot more than that.
The reality is that economy sucks. Obama can spin his numbers. Yeah, there are micro economies in some places that are doing well or OK. But, across America, that simply is not the case.

What's your problem? I didn't blame him for anything. Somebody got up on the wrong side of the bed today!