TOTALLY GEEKED!

More stupid posturing. The president doesn't control the purse strings - Congress does that. Obama doesn't have the power to back up that threat.

Did he learn nothing yesterday from the federal court that told him he couldn't fund Obamacare with an executive order?

Lawyerlady wrote:

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More stupid posturing. The president doesn't control the purse strings - Congress does that. Obama doesn't have the power to back up that threat.

Did he learn nothing yesterday from the federal court that told him he couldn't fund Obamacare with an executive order?

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 I know!  It will be interesting to see what happens with this.  Incredibly stupid.  I'm glad I have boys.

He's an horse's arse.

TrudyML wrote:

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I can't take it.

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 Then...?

flan

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Pick your news source.

Obama has sent a directive to every public school saying they must let students use which ever bathroom they feel comfortable with or the school will lose federal funding.

It's over reaching and none of his business. 

I am so thankful my kids are about done with public school. 

If I had little kids starting school now, they'd be private or home schooled. No way I'd send a kid into the public school system now. 

 

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Absolutely...I will be funding the grandkids's private school.  They will not be exposed to this...

And this includes locker rooms. 

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 Unfortunately, thats not an option for everyone.  

flan327 wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Pick your news source.

Obama has sent a directive to every public school saying they must let students use which ever bathroom they feel comfortable with or the school will lose federal funding.

It's over reaching and none of his business. 

I am so thankful my kids are about done with public school. 

If I had little kids starting school now, they'd be private or home schooled. No way I'd send a kid into the public school system now. 

 

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Absolutely...I will be funding the grandkids's private school.  They will not be exposed to this...

And this includes locker rooms. 

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 Unfortunately, thats not an option for everyone.  

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 She doesn't care.

flan

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And obviously you don't care about the safety of teenage girls.  I would work a second and third job to make sure my grandchildren are not exposed to this perversion.  You seem to relish in it, but that's not surprising... 

apple wrote:

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The Obama administration issued guidance Friday directing public schools to allow transgender students to use bathrooms matching their gender identity.


The sky is falling.

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 And locker rooms.  

Ohfour wrote:

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apple wrote:

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The Obama administration issued guidance Friday directing public schools to allow transgender students to use bathrooms matching their gender identity.


The sky is falling.

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This includes locker rooms.  Boy can now claim to be transgendered and shower with the girls... 

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Under the guidance, schools are told that they must treat transgender students according to their chosen gender identity as soon as a parent or guardian notifies the district that that identity "differs from previous representations or records." 

 

I don't know about anyone else, but occasionally I have these dreams....nightmares, actually, where I'm naked in public. Completely naked. Trying to find shelter, a jacket, or something to cover up with. I suspect this will come true to kids in bathrooms and locker rooms.

Under the guidance, schools are told that they must treat transgender students according to their chosen gender identity as soon as a parent or guardian notifies the district that that identity "differs from previous representations or records."

Schools should let transgender students use bathrooms, locker rooms and other sex-segregated facilities consistent with their gender identity, according to the guidance. Staff should address transgender students by their preferred names and pronouns. Schools cannot require students to have a medical diagnosis, undergo any medical treatment, or produce a birth certificate before treating them consistent with their gender identity, the guidance states.

www.cnn.com/2016/05/12/politics/transgender-bathrooms-obama-administration/

Where are you getting your quote?

Hey apple, here is the actual release. The parents don't have to be involved at all. Whatever you posted is BS...nice try though.

The guidance explains that when students or their parents, as appropriate, notify a school that a student is transgender, the school must treat the student consistent with the student’s gender identity. A school may not require transgender students to have a medical diagnosis, undergo any medical treatment, or produce a birth certificate or other identification document before treating them consistent with their gender identity.

www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-departments-justice-and-education-release-joint-guidance-help-schools-ensure-civil-rights

flan327 wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Pick your news source.

Obama has sent a directive to every public school saying they must let students use which ever bathroom they feel comfortable with or the school will lose federal funding.

It's over reaching and none of his business. 

I am so thankful my kids are about done with public school. 

If I had little kids starting school now, they'd be private or home schooled. No way I'd send a kid into the public school system now. 

 

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Absolutely...I will be funding the grandkids's private school.  They will not be exposed to this...

And this includes locker rooms. 

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 Unfortunately, thats not an option for everyone.  

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 She doesn't care.

flan

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 Doesn't care? We most certainly DO care. That's why we DON'T want men in the women's bathrooms and locker rooms and dressing rooms.

That's why we will do everything possible to keep our kids and grandkids safe.

 

From the actual document:

The Departments interpret Title IX to require that when a student or the student’s parent or guardian, as appropriate, notifies the school administration that the student will assert a gender identity that differs from previous representations or records, the school will begin treating the student consistent with the student’s gender identity. Under Title IX, there is no medical diagnosis or treatment requirement that students must meet as a prerequisite to being treated consistent with their gender identity.6 Because transgender students often are unable to obtain identification documents that reflect their gender identity (e.g., due to restrictions imposed by state or local law in their place of birth or residence),7 requiring students to produce such identification documents in order to treat them consistent with their gender identity may violate Title IX when doing so has the practical effect of limiting or denying students equal access to an educational program or activity.




3. Sex-Segregated Activities and Facilities
Title IX’s implementing regulations permit a school to provide sex-segregated restrooms, locker rooms, shower facilities, housing, and athletic teams, as well as single-sex classes under certain circumstances.12 When a school provides sex-segregated activities and facilities, transgender students must be allowed to participate in such activities and access such facilities consistent with their gender identity.13
 Restrooms and Locker Rooms. A school may provide separate facilities on the basis of sex, but must allow transgender students access to such facilities consistent with their gender identity.14 A school may not require transgender students to use facilities inconsistent with their gender identity or to use individual-user facilities when other students are not required to do so. A school may, however, make individual-user options available to all students who voluntarily seek additional privacy.15



www.justice.gov/opa/file/850986/download

apple wrote:

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The Obama administration issued guidance Friday directing public schools to allow transgender students to use bathrooms matching their gender identity.


The sky is falling.

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 No. The sky isn't falling.

But the ability to be safe is.

When he threatened to with hold federal funding, and even though he cant, he threatened it, he showed his true colors. 

He is a wretched excuse for a president trying to blackmail our school systems into following this perversion.

apple wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Hey apple, here is the actual release. The parents don't have to be involved at all. Whatever you posted is BS...nice try though.

The guidance explains that when students or their parents, as appropriate, notify a school that a student is transgender, the school must treat the student consistent with the student’s gender identity. A school may not require transgender students to have a medical diagnosis, undergo any medical treatment, or produce a birth certificate or other identification document before treating them consistent with their gender identity.

www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-departments-justice-and-education-release-joint-guidance-help-schools-ensure-civil-rights

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 I resent the implication that I am lying or trying to fool you. Get a grip.

 

As soon as a child’s parent or legal guardian asserts a gender identity for the student that “differs from previous representations or records,” the letter says, the child is to be treated accordingly — without any requirement for a medical diagnosis or birth certificate to be produced. It says that schools may — but are not required to — provide other restroom and locker room options to students who seek “additional privacy” for whatever reason.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/13/us/politics/obama-administration-to-issue-decree-on-transgender-access-to-school-restrooms.html?_r=0

http://www.courthousenews.com/2016/05/13/white-house-backs-transgender-bathrooms.htm

The Obama administration will send a letter to every public school district in the country telling them to allow transgender students to use bathrooms and locker rooms that match their gender identity as opposed to their birth certificate.

The letter, first obtained by The New York Times, is signed by officials at the Justice Department and Department of Education. It will be sent out to the districts on Friday. 

While the letter does not have the force of law, it does warn that schools that do not abide by the administration’s interpretation of civil rights law may face lawsuits or a loss of federal aid, The Times reported.

“There is no room in our schools for discrimination of any kind, including discrimination against transgender students on the basis of their sex,” Attorney General Loretta Lynch said in a statement.

“No student should ever have to go through the experience of feeling unwelcome at school or on a college campus,” Education Secretary John B. King Jr., said in his own statement. “We must ensure that our young people know that whoever they are or wherever they come from, they have the opportunity to get a great education in an environment free from discrimination, harassment and violence.”http://1010wcsi.com/obama-administration-tells-public-schools-to-let-transgender-students-use-bathrooms-of-their-choice/

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But that's not true.  Read the actual release.  The parents don't have to have anything to do with it... 

 

This is wrong.

Period.

And it turns my stomach.

The damage this is going to cause.

It makes me want to cry for our kids. Our country.

Ohfour wrote:

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apple wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Hey apple, here is the actual release. The parents don't have to be involved at all. Whatever you posted is BS...nice try though.

The guidance explains that when students or their parents, as appropriate, notify a school that a student is transgender, the school must treat the student consistent with the student’s gender identity. A school may not require transgender students to have a medical diagnosis, undergo any medical treatment, or produce a birth certificate or other identification document before treating them consistent with their gender identity.

www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-departments-justice-and-education-release-joint-guidance-help-schools-ensure-civil-rights

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 I resent the implication that I am lying or trying to fool you. Get a grip.

 

As soon as a child’s parent or legal guardian asserts a gender identity for the student that “differs from previous representations or records,” the letter says, the child is to be treated accordingly — without any requirement for a medical diagnosis or birth certificate to be produced. It says that schools may — but are not required to — provide other restroom and locker room options to students who seek “additional privacy” for whatever reason.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/13/us/politics/obama-administration-to-issue-decree-on-transgender-access-to-school-restrooms.html?_r=0

http://www.courthousenews.com/2016/05/13/white-house-backs-transgender-bathrooms.htm

The Obama administration will send a letter to every public school district in the country telling them to allow transgender students to use bathrooms and locker rooms that match their gender identity as opposed to their birth certificate.

The letter, first obtained by The New York Times, is signed by officials at the Justice Department and Department of Education. It will be sent out to the districts on Friday. 

While the letter does not have the force of law, it does warn that schools that do not abide by the administration’s interpretation of civil rights law may face lawsuits or a loss of federal aid, The Times reported.

“There is no room in our schools for discrimination of any kind, including discrimination against transgender students on the basis of their sex,” Attorney General Loretta Lynch said in a statement.

“No student should ever have to go through the experience of feeling unwelcome at school or on a college campus,” Education Secretary John B. King Jr., said in his own statement. “We must ensure that our young people know that whoever they are or wherever they come from, they have the opportunity to get a great education in an environment free from discrimination, harassment and violence.”http://1010wcsi.com/obama-administration-tells-public-schools-to-let-transgender-students-use-bathrooms-of-their-choice/

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But that's not true.  Read the actual release.  The parents don't have to have anything to do with it... 

 

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 It is true. It is in the GUIDELINES!

apple wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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apple wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Hey apple, here is the actual release. The parents don't have to be involved at all. Whatever you posted is BS...nice try though.

The guidance explains that when students or their parents, as appropriate, notify a school that a student is transgender, the school must treat the student consistent with the student’s gender identity. A school may not require transgender students to have a medical diagnosis, undergo any medical treatment, or produce a birth certificate or other identification document before treating them consistent with their gender identity.

www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-departments-justice-and-education-release-joint-guidance-help-schools-ensure-civil-rights

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 I resent the implication that I am lying or trying to fool you. Get a grip.

 

As soon as a child’s parent or legal guardian asserts a gender identity for the student that “differs from previous representations or records,” the letter says, the child is to be treated accordingly — without any requirement for a medical diagnosis or birth certificate to be produced. It says that schools may — but are not required to — provide other restroom and locker room options to students who seek “additional privacy” for whatever reason.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/13/us/politics/obama-administration-to-issue-decree-on-transgender-access-to-school-restrooms.html?_r=0

http://www.courthousenews.com/2016/05/13/white-house-backs-transgender-bathrooms.htm

The Obama administration will send a letter to every public school district in the country telling them to allow transgender students to use bathrooms and locker rooms that match their gender identity as opposed to their birth certificate.

The letter, first obtained by The New York Times, is signed by officials at the Justice Department and Department of Education. It will be sent out to the districts on Friday. 

While the letter does not have the force of law, it does warn that schools that do not abide by the administration’s interpretation of civil rights law may face lawsuits or a loss of federal aid, The Times reported.

“There is no room in our schools for discrimination of any kind, including discrimination against transgender students on the basis of their sex,” Attorney General Loretta Lynch said in a statement.

“No student should ever have to go through the experience of feeling unwelcome at school or on a college campus,” Education Secretary John B. King Jr., said in his own statement. “We must ensure that our young people know that whoever they are or wherever they come from, they have the opportunity to get a great education in an environment free from discrimination, harassment and violence.”http://1010wcsi.com/obama-administration-tells-public-schools-to-let-transgender-students-use-bathrooms-of-their-choice/

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But that's not true.  Read the actual release.  The parents don't have to have anything to do with it... 

 

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 It is true. It is in the GUIDELINES!

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Can you not read?  Or do you have comprehension issues.  Your post states that the parent must notify the school:

 

Under the guidance, schools are told that they must treat transgender students according to their chosen gender identity as soon as a parent or guardian notifies the district that that identity "differs from previous representations or records."

 

The parent doesn't have to have anything to do with it.  A 17 year old boy can decide (without question) that he's a girl for his senior year.  And he gets to shower with the girls. 

What about this are you not understanding?

 

I wonder whether any boy would actually have the audacity to claim to identify as a female just to sneak a peak. Unless it was on a dare, which isn't improbable.

In school, I have a different concern.

On top of the safety of the girls.

The safety of the students who mark themselves as transgender.

Kids can be vicious and this is going to make it harder for these confused kids.

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I wonder whether any boy would actually have the audacity to claim to identify as a female just to sneak a peak. Unless it was on a dare, which isn't improbable.

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 The parents have to sign off on this gender identity issue. So no I don't think it would be that easy.

 

apple wrote:

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FNW wrote:

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I wonder whether any boy would actually have the audacity to claim to identify as a female just to sneak a peak. Unless it was on a dare, which isn't improbable.

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 The parents have to sign off on this gender identity issue. So no I don't think it would be that easy.

 

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oh FFS...NO they don't.  Can you not READ???????? 

Here is THE exact wording:

The Departments interpret Title IX to require that when a student or the student’s parent or guardian, as appropriate, notifies the school administration that the student will assert a gender identity that differs from previous representations or records, the school will begin treating the student consistent with the student’s gender identity. Under Title IX, there is no medical diagnosis or treatment requirement that students must meet as a prerequisite to being treated consistent with their gender identity.6 Because transgender students often are unable to obtain identification documents that reflect their gender identity (e.g., due to restrictions imposed by state or local law in their place of birth or residence),7 requiring students to produce such identification documents in order to treat them consistent with their gender identity may violate Title IX when doing so has the practical effect of limiting or denying students equal access to an educational program or activity.