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As the House Republicans’ Benghazi committee enters its third year, no one seems to be able to explain exactly why the partisan panel still exists, when it’ll wrap up, or even why it was created in the first place.

Quotes like this one, published by USA Today, raise questions anew about this pointless waste of time and resources.
There was nothing the military could have done on the night of Sept. 11, 2012, to stop the attacks in Benghazi, Libya, but the special House committee investigating the terrorist incident will continue to probe the Pentagon’s actions that night, the committee’s chairman said Tuesday.

“Whether or not they could have gotten there in time, I don’t think there is any issue with respect to that. They couldn’t,” Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., told Fox News.

Wait, hold on. As regular readers know, the whole point of the right-wing conspiracy theory is built around the idea that the military could’ve done more to intervene in Benghazi the night of the September 2012 attack, but it didn’t for political reasons. It’s the basis for the ridiculous “stand down” nonsense right-wing activists have pushed for years without proof.

Military leaders, the State Department, and multiple congressional investigations all concluded that the conspiracy theory is wrong, but House Republicans don’t care, which is why they created a committee, led by Trey Gowdy, to tell conservatives what they want to hear.

Except, even Gowdy, who’s spent more than two years exploring his party’s conspiracy theories, doesn’t believe the core question at the heart of the investigation. Neither, we learned this week, does his committee’s former top attorney.

The panel’s ranking Democrat, Maryland’s Elijah Cummings, said in a statement, “Chairman Gowdy has finally admitted what we have all known for years. The central Republican allegation that the military was told to withhold assets that could have saved lives in Benghazi for political reasons was wrong.”

If the committee is investigating a conspiracy that the committee’s own chairman rejects, then maybe it’s time to call it a day? And maybe now the many Republicans who’ve pushed the bogus line that U.S. forces could’ve gotten to Benghazi in time – I’m looking at you, Marco Rubio – are willing to apologize?

To reiterate a point from earlier in the week, though I find the Republicans’ Benghazi Committee ridiculous, I’m not suggesting the deadly terrorist attack in Libya, which left four Americans dead, is unworthy of investigation. Just the opposite is true – Congress had a responsibility to determine what happened and take steps to prevent similar attacks in the future.

But therein lies the point: seven separate congressional committees investigated the Benghazi attack before Gowdy’s Select Committee was even created. This was already one of the most scrutinized events in American history. Republican lawmakers, however, didn’t quite care for what the evidence told them, so they effectively concluded, “Maybe an eighth committee will tell us something the other seven committees didn’t.”

But even now, Republicans can’t substantiate their conspiracy theory, which Gowdy himself has now dismissed.

Republicans have already admitted the Benghazi panel is a partisan exercise. It’s long past time for the farce to end.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/benghazi-committee-chair-gives-away-the-game?cid=sm_fb_maddow



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Rachel Maddow????

Uh, yeah. Not a credible source.

However, it's not just about that. It's about when and how much Hilary knew about an imminent terror attack. Sure, once it started, they may not have been able to get there in time (although even an airstrike from the carrier group in the Mediterranean might have given them an opportunity to escape in the confusion)--but there is evidence that she at least had some information that there was a threat well beforehand--and did nothing.

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What does it matter?

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Right? She killed those guys an lied about it. They raped and burned him, while she, the cvnt, slept. But it doesn't matter...

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Rachel Maddow????

Uh, yeah. Not a credible source.

However, it's not just about that. It's about when and how much Hilary knew about an imminent terror attack. Sure, once it started, they may not have been able to get there in time (although even an airstrike from the carrier group in the Mediterranean might have given them an opportunity to escape in the confusion)--but there is evidence that she at least had some information that there was a threat well beforehand--and did nothing.


 There were constant threats, not just there, but against virtually every U.S. outpost in the Middle East and in southeast Asia.

There still are.

And an airstrike would have killed civilians.



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Thanks for posting, apple.

Interesting read.

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Nice spin. But, um..no.

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Both sides "spin."

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Both side don't just flat out lie. And when proven they lied, STILL deny it.

That wonderful little trait belongs to the libs.

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Ohfour wrote:

Both side don't just flat out lie. And when proven they lied, STILL deny it.

That wonderful little trait belongs to the libs.


 Do you still believe in the Tooth Fairy as well?

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flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:

Both side don't just flat out lie. And when proven they lied, STILL deny it.

That wonderful little trait belongs to the libs.


 Do you still believe in the Tooth Fairy as well?

flan


You are so blinded by your own ignorance, you can't even tell the truth from a lie. 



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Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:

Both side don't just flat out lie. And when proven they lied, STILL deny it.

That wonderful little trait belongs to the libs.


 Do you still believe in the Tooth Fairy as well?

flan


You are so blinded by your own ignorance, you can't even tell the truth from a lie. 


 Where "friends" are concerned, I most certainly CAN.

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flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:

Both side don't just flat out lie. And when proven they lied, STILL deny it.

That wonderful little trait belongs to the libs.


 Do you still believe in the Tooth Fairy as well?

flan


You are so blinded by your own ignorance, you can't even tell the truth from a lie. 


 Where "friends" are concerned, I most certainly CAN.

flan


WTF are you talking about?  This thread is about Benghazi, not your imaginary friends... 



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Threads never EVER change topic.

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flan327 wrote:

Threads never EVER change topic.

flan


But usually, there is a natural progression.  You mentioned your imaginary friends just out of the blue.  You should really take a couple of days off.  You are starting to lose touch with reality...

I KNOW if hard without your posse of NJN and Weltz, but you are not handling this well... 



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Threads never EVER change topic.

flan


But usually, there is a natural progression.  You mentioned your imaginary friends just out of the blue.  You should really take a couple of days off.  You are starting to lose touch with reality...

I KNOW if hard without your posse of NJN and Weltz, but you are not handling this well... 


 Oh, aren't you just the most precioussssss thing ever?

I wasn't talking about either NJN or welts.

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Rachel Maddow????

Uh, yeah. Not a credible source.

However, it's not just about that. It's about when and how much Hilary knew about an imminent terror attack. Sure, once it started, they may not have been able to get there in time (although even an airstrike from the carrier group in the Mediterranean might have given them an opportunity to escape in the confusion)--but there is evidence that she at least had some information that there was a threat well beforehand--and did nothing.


 There were constant threats, not just there, but against virtually every U.S. outpost in the Middle East and in southeast Asia.

There still are.

And an airstrike would have killed civilians.


 It seems like both sides reluctantly agree that there was not time to get there. I think that is pretty important.



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And blaming some guy who made a video and ruining his life? That means nothing?

She knew there were threats against them, knew they needed more security and she refused to do anything about it. And then when the attack came, she, along with her cronies, helped push the story that a home-made video was cause for the attack.

She failed to do her job. She lied to the public. She testified under oath that it doesn't matter - "what difference does it make now?" - when people were mourning the loss of their loved ones.

She is a horrid person.

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She actually had him arrested and charged to deflect the blame from herself. She jailed an innocent man, for what? If she had done nothing wrong, why ruin an innocent person's life?

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There is a dispute about how important the video was in provoking the terrorist assault on the American diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, that killed the United States ambassador and three other Americans. Militants interviewed at the scene said they were unaware of the video until a protest in Cairo called it to their attention. But the video without question led to protests across the globe, beginning in Cairo and spreading rapidly in September to Yemen, Morocco, Iran, Tunisia, Sudan, Iraq, Pakistan, Lebanon, Indonesia and Malaysia.

The making of the film is a bizarre tale of fake personas and wholesale deception. And as with almost everything touched over the years by Mr. Nakoula — a former gas station manager, bong salesman, methamphetamine ingredient supplier and convicted con man — it is almost impossible to separate fact from fabrication.

www.nytimes.com/2012/11/26/us/from-the-man-who-insulted-islam-no-retreat.html

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The anti-Muslim film Innocence Of Muslims is still bringing on heated debate even though it’s now well known that Nakoula Basseley Nakoula had nothing to do with the Benghazi attack. So why is a California appeals court dragging the anti-Muslim film up again?
In a related report by The Inquisitr, the final Benghazi report from the Senate confirmed the attack was preventable. Pat Smith, mother of one those slain in the attacks, blamed Hillary Clinton for allowing it to happen. Some reports also claim the Obama administration covered up Benghazi because of the CIA annex, which was said to have been funneling missiles to Syria well before Congress ever authorized helping the rebels by giving them weapons.
Following the Benghazi attack, it became quickly obvious that Nakoula Basseley Nakoula’s days were numbered despite what actually happened on the ground. During the Benghazi hearings, Gregory Hicks, claimed “[t]he YouTube video was a non-event in Libya,” despite the Obama Administration’s attempts to pin the violence in Libya to protests over a short YouTube trailer for the anti-Muslim film.
Regardless, the White House ran public service announcements in Pakistan featuring President Barack Obama saying the United States had nothing to do with the anti-Muslim video. Then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told Charles Woods, the father of a Navy SEAL killed in Benghazi, that “[w]e will make sure that the person who made that film is arrested and prosecuted.”
Nakoula Basseley Nakoula was arrested the day after President Obama’s re-election ostensibly for lying to his probation officer about his role in making the anti-Muslim film. Since the Obama administration wanted to blame the video for Benghazi Nakoula ended up in jail. At the time, Politico pointed out how unusual this should lead to jail time, never mind having his records sealed:

Read more at www.inquisitr.com/1150612/anti-muslim-film-innocence-of-muslims-is-nakoula-basseley-obamas-patsy-for-benghazi/

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So, she lied, and had a man arrested. Oh, ok...

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apple wrote:
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huskerbb wrote:

Rachel Maddow????

Uh, yeah. Not a credible source.

However, it's not just about that. It's about when and how much Hilary knew about an imminent terror attack. Sure, once it started, they may not have been able to get there in time (although even an airstrike from the carrier group in the Mediterranean might have given them an opportunity to escape in the confusion)--but there is evidence that she at least had some information that there was a threat well beforehand--and did nothing.


 There were constant threats, not just there, but against virtually every U.S. outpost in the Middle East and in southeast Asia.

There still are.

And an airstrike would have killed civilians.


 It seems like both sides reluctantly agree that there was not time to get there. I think that is pretty important.


Yes.

The alternative might have been to station an extra 100 or so Marines at EVERY similar outpost. But we don't have the manpower to do that.

And the local governments would probably object.

 



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Omg people! She neglected to do her job and people died and she tried to deflect attention from her by throwing some innocent person in jail and lying to the world! And you give her a pass? Can't you see that? And it's Bull**** that all other outposts at the time had the same level of threat. You are buying their lies hook, line, and sinker!

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There is a dispute about how important the video was in provoking the terrorist assault on the American diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, that killed the United States ambassador and three other Americans. Militants interviewed at the scene said they were unaware of the video until a protest in Cairo called it to their attention. But the video without question led to protests across the globe, beginning in Cairo and spreading rapidly in September to Yemen, Morocco, Iran, Tunisia, Sudan, Iraq, Pakistan, Lebanon, Indonesia and Malaysia.

The making of the film is a bizarre tale of fake personas and wholesale deception. And as with almost everything touched over the years by Mr. Nakoula — a former gas station manager, bong salesman, methamphetamine ingredient supplier and convicted con man — it is almost impossible to separate fact from fabrication.

www.nytimes.com/2012/11/26/us/from-the-man-who-insulted-islam-no-retreat.html

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The anti-Muslim film Innocence Of Muslims is still bringing on heated debate even though it’s now well known that Nakoula Basseley Nakoula had nothing to do with the Benghazi attack. So why is a California appeals court dragging the anti-Muslim film up again?
In a related report by The Inquisitr, the final Benghazi report from the Senate confirmed the attack was preventable. Pat Smith, mother of one those slain in the attacks, blamed Hillary Clinton for allowing it to happen. Some reports also claim the Obama administration covered up Benghazi because of the CIA annex, which was said to have been funneling missiles to Syria well before Congress ever authorized helping the rebels by giving them weapons.
Following the Benghazi attack, it became quickly obvious that Nakoula Basseley Nakoula’s days were numbered despite what actually happened on the ground. During the Benghazi hearings, Gregory Hicks, claimed “[t]he YouTube video was a non-event in Libya,” despite the Obama Administration’s attempts to pin the violence in Libya to protests over a short YouTube trailer for the anti-Muslim film.
Regardless, the White House ran public service announcements in Pakistan featuring President Barack Obama saying the United States had nothing to do with the anti-Muslim video. Then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told Charles Woods, the father of a Navy SEAL killed in Benghazi, that “[w]e will make sure that the person who made that film is arrested and prosecuted.”
Nakoula Basseley Nakoula was arrested the day after President Obama’s re-election ostensibly for lying to his probation officer about his role in making the anti-Muslim film. Since the Obama administration wanted to blame the video for Benghazi Nakoula ended up in jail. At the time, Politico pointed out how unusual this should lead to jail time, never mind having his records sealed:

Read more at www.inquisitr.com/1150612/anti-muslim-film-innocence-of-muslims-is-nakoula-basseley-obamas-patsy-for-benghazi/


 But yet Hilary clung to that narrative for months.



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This transpired over more than a TWELVE hour period. Time to effect a rescue? Maybe not--but time to mount an airstrike to at least maybe buy some more time or give them a chance--yes.



-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 20th of May 2016 01:31:53 PM

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If the committee is investigating a conspiracy that the committee’s own chairman rejects, then maybe it’s time to call it a day?

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What part of "the government is corrupt" do you have such a problem with understanding? If he has suddenly reversed his position, he got something out of it.

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What part of "the government is corrupt" do you have such a problem with understanding? If he has suddenly reversed his position, he got something out of it.


 So any investigation, if its findings don't agree with your assumption, is corrupt?



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What part of "the government is corrupt" do you have such a problem with understanding? If he has suddenly reversed his position, he got something out of it.


 So any investigation, if its findings don't agree with your assumption, is corrupt?


 Not any.  But this one certainly is.  The facts speak for themselves.  The TV coverage of HER and what she did and said is public knowledge.  For him to back off saying she did nothing wrong is obvious corruption.



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A lot of people believe that Bush had warnings, months before 9/11.
These sorts of "theories" always surround politics.


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A lot of people believe that Bush had warnings, months before 9/11.
These sorts of "theories" always surround politics.


This isn't a theory.  This is her getting on TV and lying.   



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when your people are in danger or dying and you're charged with the responsibility of protecting them, you do something--you don't worry about time or distance or numbers or political careers--it's a matter of honor, a code of conduct and what our countrymen had(and have) a right to expect

she lied and procrastinated and ignored evidence and advice--and our countrymen were betrayed and were killed as a result

she is worthless with zero redeeming qualities


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To be honest, from what I have read, I think she should have sent them even IF they couldn't make it there on time, send them.

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But she was asleep. While her ambassador was getting raped and burned alive. And then she lied to his family.

The video of his torture came out. She said it was propaganda. That it wasn't true. And then she said, verbatim: "what does it matter now?" . And yet, people, some here, will vote for her....

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A lot of people believe that Bush had warnings, months before 9/11.
These sorts of "theories" always surround politics.


 You mean the intel Hill's hubby received about Osama?  But did nothing about it?  Those warnings?  The 9/11 terrorist attack was a complete and utter surprise.    And don't forget those terrorists came in from Canada.



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To be honest, from what I have read, I think she should have sent them even IF they couldn't make it there on time, send them.
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what you can't seem to grasp is that the folks on the ground WERE going to go regardless of the situation/odds/time--and they were ORDERED to stand down

that was an egregious error--for the security of american embassies worldwide and also ( in truth ) for american citizens abroad as well

the world needs to know for certain that if you touch our people or our embassies you're taking your life in your hands

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I just have to wonder if Liberals will call out ANYTHING the people in their party do. I mean, really. There is NO defense for Hillary. She's seriously one of the most corrupt, evil, despicable, horrendous people on the planet.

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