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Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

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Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

Oh goodness, let's not recognize the kids who worked the hardest.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Why do we continue to let the Left ruin what is good about our country? The point of celebrating achievement is to inspire others. To show what is possible through hard work and diligence. The Left hates competition of any kind. They dont' like being held to any standards whatsoever.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Honestly, i am so over it. DD is a competitive athlete as i have posted. She plays a high quality game. This year a couple of the other competitive girls dropped off the school softball team. She is the only left with any sort of athletic ability. Well, at 14, she has done her share of playing and losing games with girls who don't care and don't try. It's getting old. And, propping up the ones who don't care and don't try is a big waste of time. So, we will play this season and she will also play the travel league . But, next year, who needs it? You work hard to do something well, then you get people who think it's all a big joke. I am sick of those people.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Why do we continue to let the Left ruin what is good about our country? The point of celebrating achievement is to inspire others. To show what is possible through hard work and diligence. The Left hates competition of any kind. They dont' like being held to any standards whatsoever.

There you go again!

I think it's a stupid idea.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Honestly, i am so over it. DD is a competitive athlete as i have posted. She plays a high quality game. This year a couple of the other competitive girls dropped off the school softball team. She is the only left with any sort of athletic ability. Well, at 14, she has done her share of playing and losing games with girls who don't care and don't try. It's getting old. And, propping up the ones who don't care and don't try is a big waste of time. So, we will play this season and she will also play the travel league . But, next year, who needs it? You work hard to do something well, then you get people who think it's all a big joke. I am sick of those people.

I definitely feel sorry for your daughter in this situation.

I know she works hard and you are understandably proud of her!!!

flan

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Honestly, i am so over it. DD is a competitive athlete as i have posted. She plays a high quality game. This year a couple of the other competitive girls dropped off the school softball team. She is the only left with any sort of athletic ability. Well, at 14, she has done her share of playing and losing games with girls who don't care and don't try. It's getting old. And, propping up the ones who don't care and don't try is a big waste of time. So, we will play this season and she will also play the travel league . But, next year, who needs it? You work hard to do something well, then you get people who think it's all a big joke. I am sick of those people.

Neither of my kids were tops at sports growing up. DS had skill in hockey and baseball but not a star. I used to tell him that a team needs all levels of players, not just stars. He played both sports all through school, mostly on intramural leagues. Today he still plays hockey, he just loves to play and thinks it's great when there is one person who out shines them. DD sticks her nose in books. The parents who won't let their kids see the difference in their skill levels and others are setting their kids up for disappointment. Later in life the those kids will have a lot of issues dealing with superstars in the office.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Thank you flan! That is very nice. DD does work hard. And, there are times she needs to be a teacher and leader as well. And, she has done that. However this year, there is a new girl on the team who was on the basketball team a few years ago. Her mom is an idiot and this girl is totally out of control and obnoxious. She doesnt' listen to anyone, including the coaches. When we coached this girl, she was very disruptive in practice, refused to participate in drills and was a big mouth. And, mom was dropping her off for free babysitting. Same thing now.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Thank you flan! That is very nice. DD does work hard. And, there are times she needs to be a teacher and leader as well. And, she has done that. However this year, there is a new girl on the team who was on the basketball team a few years ago. Her mom is an idiot and this girl is totally out of control and obnoxious. She doesnt' listen to anyone, including the coaches. When we coached this girl, she was very disruptive in practice, refused to participate in drills and was a big mouth. And, mom was dropping her off for free babysitting. Same thing now.

It's the truth, LGS.

You've instilled a real work ethic in her.

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Honestly, i am so over it. DD is a competitive athlete as i have posted. She plays a high quality game. This year a couple of the other competitive girls dropped off the school softball team. She is the only left with any sort of athletic ability. Well, at 14, she has done her share of playing and losing games with girls who don't care and don't try. It's getting old. And, propping up the ones who don't care and don't try is a big waste of time. So, we will play this season and she will also play the travel league . But, next year, who needs it? You work hard to do something well, then you get people who think it's all a big joke. I am sick of those people.
Neither of my kids were tops at sports growing up. DS had skill in hockey and baseball but not a star. I used to tell him that a team needs all levels of players, not just stars. He played both sports all through school, mostly on intramural leagues. Today he still plays hockey, he just loves to play and thinks it's great when there is one person who out shines them. DD sticks her nose in books. The parents who won't let their kids see the difference in their skill levels and others are setting their kids up for disappointment. Later in life the those kids will have a lot of issues dealing with superstars in the office.

There is a HUGE difference between being the top player and being a player who doesn't care, is disruptive, has an attitude and doesn't try. A team consists of a variety of kids of all skill levels. And, you may be top at one thing and someone else is tops at another. DD is a fantastic rebounder and post player in basketball. But, she is not a ball handler. She needs her guards to handle that ball under pressure. It isn't about who scores the most points. It is about kids who WORK hard to get better, who practice, who have respect for their coaches and teammates and who go out on the floor and do their best. We had a few kids that would turn the ball over during a game and just seemed to think that was hysterical. Ha, ha. We lost games that the other kids worked their behinds off to win for a few who didn't give a rat's rear. That is what i am talking about. The parents who drop the kids off for free babysitting.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Honestly, i am so over it. DD is a competitive athlete as i have posted. She plays a high quality game. This year a couple of the other competitive girls dropped off the school softball team. She is the only left with any sort of athletic ability. Well, at 14, she has done her share of playing and losing games with girls who don't care and don't try. It's getting old. And, propping up the ones who don't care and don't try is a big waste of time. So, we will play this season and she will also play the travel league . But, next year, who needs it? You work hard to do something well, then you get people who think it's all a big joke. I am sick of those people.
Neither of my kids were tops at sports growing up. DS had skill in hockey and baseball but not a star. I used to tell him that a team needs all levels of players, not just stars. He played both sports all through school, mostly on intramural leagues. Today he still plays hockey, he just loves to play and thinks it's great when there is one person who out shines them. DD sticks her nose in books. The parents who won't let their kids see the difference in their skill levels and others are setting their kids up for disappointment. Later in life the those kids will have a lot of issues dealing with superstars in the office.

BTW, my DD isn't a "superstar". She just works hard. She loves to play. She doesn't have any "i am better than you" attitude. She is very demure and kind. That isn't her style. And, when she played on an out of town travel team, and met up with her own team at a tournament, we beat them. And, she shook their hands,and it was over and she didn't go to school the next day and gloat or crow. That isn't her style. However had the shoe been on the other foot, some of those girls would have done just that.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

But, you are kind of proving the point. How dare someone work hard and be confident? If they do, oh they have a "superstar mentality'. That is the furthest thing from the truth.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
But, you are kind of proving the point. How dare someone work hard and be confident? If they do, oh they have a "superstar mentality'. That is the furthest thing from the truth.

Is that to me? If so you misunderstood my post. What I always told my kids is the team is important and if you like to be on the team you have to practice and not worry about not being as good as the superstar.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
But, you are kind of proving the point. How dare someone work hard and be confident? If they do, oh they have a "superstar mentality'. That is the furthest thing from the truth.
Is that to me? If so you misunderstood my post. What I always told my kids is the team is important and if you like to be on the team you have to practice and not worry about not being as good as the superstar.

OK. Yes, you don't have to be someone else. You have to be YOUR best. Play YOUR best. You can't win any game with one person. That is why it is important for coaches to recognize and value the contributions of all players. You don't just celebrate the basket. You celebrate the Assist that led to the basket. You celebrate the steal, that led to the pass ,that led to the basket. All those things work together.

FNW · Guru

I focus more on effort than ability. If they put their back into something, so to speak, they are praised, regardless of how "good" they might be at it. If they are not good, they most likely don't enjoy it. If they don't enjoy it, find something they do enjoy. And I remind them that being a team doesn't mean you get to be the star. It means you work together to achieve the goal.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Oh, i agree effort is key. When you come to practice, focus, give 100%. And, practice outside of practice. You will never get any better if you don't put any time in beyond the actual practice. Pick up a ball and home and dribble in the driveway.
Last year, when we started one of the girls was the weakest player on the team. And, at first, she didn't really try very hard. Well, then she starting WORKING. And, by the end of the season she was in the starting lineup. She was the most improved player. She worked hard. She gave effort. That warms my heart. It is about effort.
And, on the flip side. We have a player with natural talent. She got lazy and slacked off towards the end of the season. I took her to task for that. If you don't give your effort, you can sit on the bench for awhile.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

We can all pretend that hierarchies don't exist. We can pretend there is no valedictorian. In reality, kids know who the smart braniacs are. They know who the athletes are. They know who the best musicians and singers are. They know who is artistic ,etc, etc. But, let's all pretend we are the same. I really don't know how that is somehow a better world in their view.

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

So the next thing will be they can't announce college admissions. Don't want the kids who didn't study to feel bad when Janie gets a Yale scholarship.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Why do we continue to let the Left ruin what is good about our country? The point of celebrating achievement is to inspire others. To show what is possible through hard work and diligence. The Left hates competition of any kind. They dont' like being held to any standards whatsoever.

Why are you mentioning the left? You know North Carolina is a majority Republican state right? The last 7 of 8 presidential elections they went Republican. 9 of 12 of their House Reps are Republican.

Vette · Owl drink to that!

I feel bad for all the kids who have worked really hard to earn this

Lindley · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Why do we continue to let the Left ruin what is good about our country? The point of celebrating achievement is to inspire others. To show what is possible through hard work and diligence. The Left hates competition of any kind. They dont' like being held to any standards whatsoever.
Why are you mentioning the left? You know North Carolina is a majority Republican state right? The last 7 of 8 presidential elections they went Republican. 9 of 12 of their House Reps are Republican.

Wake county is more liberal then the rest loft the state. They have a lot of transplants from new York and other states.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Mellow Momma wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Why do we continue to let the Left ruin what is good about our country? The point of celebrating achievement is to inspire others. To show what is possible through hard work and diligence. The Left hates competition of any kind. They dont' like being held to any standards whatsoever.
Why are you mentioning the left? You know North Carolina is a majority Republican state right? The last 7 of 8 presidential elections they went Republican. 9 of 12 of their House Reps are Republican.

Because "we" are responsible for everything!

(Well, everything that Conservatives DON'T like...)

flan

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

It said Wake county was just one of the counties in North Carolina doing this. I suppose all the other counties are dominated by liberals as well. Smh.

Ohfour · Hooker

Where did it say that. This is 100% liberal agenda. Conservatives laud people for success. Liberals knock them.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
Where did it say that. This is 100% liberal agenda. Conservatives laud people for success. Liberals knock them.

"SOME" and "SOME" are missing from your statement.

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Where did it say that. This is 100% liberal agenda. Conservatives laud people for success. Liberals knock them.
"SOME" and "SOME" are missing from your statement.
flan

Oh, please. You hate to see people succeed. This board is proof positive.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Where did it say that. This is 100% liberal agenda. Conservatives laud people for success. Liberals knock them.
"SOME" and "SOME" are missing from your statement.
flan
Oh, please. You hate to see people succeed. This board is proof positive.

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

What is up with North Carolina?

Mediocrity!

It's the new greatness!

This is ridiculous.

The valedictorian and salutatorian are earned. Plain and simple. They should be given with respect and honor.

This mediocre-ness is killing us.

burns07 · Guru

" arts gratia artis " --a similar sentiment to " doing something to the best of your ability is worth it for its own sake "--striving to be the best has always been worth it--and will always be--TR said it very well-- to paraphrase, " better to have tried valiantly and failed than to stand on the sidelines with those sheep who will never know the pain of defeat or the exultation of victory. "

amen

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I was at the senior awards yesterday. The only things awarded yesterday were the scholarships and honor awards.

The scholarship amounts were read when awarded.

Most were under $750. There were the ones spread over 4 years and there were some in the low thousands.

One guy got an $85k scholarship and one girl got a total of $70k. They were the highest awarded.

There was a woman sitting close to me making comments the whole time ranging from "what are they going to do with that"
to "must be nice" to "they know somebody".

It was disgusting.

My younger cousin earned a full ride to college and the woman made a nasty comment.

I know the work she and her family put in to getting that scholarship. It wasn't a gift. It was hard earned.

People want the reward without the work. And if they don't want to do the work, they don't want anyone else to benefit.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Honestly, i am so over it. DD is a competitive athlete as i have posted. She plays a high quality game. This year a couple of the other competitive girls dropped off the school softball team. She is the only left with any sort of athletic ability. Well, at 14, she has done her share of playing and losing games with girls who don't care and don't try. It's getting old. And, propping up the ones who don't care and don't try is a big waste of time. So, we will play this season and she will also play the travel league . But, next year, who needs it? You work hard to do something well, then you get people who think it's all a big joke. I am sick of those people.

This is totally not a new thing. I remember playing basketball in highschool as a high-performing player. I used to win tournament MVP awards, where the votes came from other teams' coaches. One year we qualified for Provincials (like State finals) and my team decided that they didn't want to go because "practicing is too much work". I hated them all for a long time. I wanted to go to Provincials!

Edit: MVP not VIP

-- Edited by Tignanello on Saturday 21st of May 2016 01:52:51 PM

chef · Guru

I'm so, so glad DS will be going to private school. The PC bs in public schools is sickening.

I was in the top 10 in my graduating class. I worked hard and earned my spot. We had two valedictorians in my class. Twins. Both had the same GPA and took the same classes. One salutatorian. I don't remember any kvetching about students getting recognized for what they earned. It's sad that nowadays mediocrity is applauded.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Not only applauded, but encouraged.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I don't see that HERE.

But...carry on...

flan

FNW · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Not only applauded, but encouraged.

I know. Where's the incentive when everyone gets the same reward.

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
I don't see that HERE.

But...carry on...

flan

Honey, it's YOU, to a tee!!!!! You hate when something good happens to other people. You are the absolute most jealous person I've ever encountered. It's quite pathetic the disdain toy have for other people's happiness. ..

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
I don't see that HERE.

But...carry on...

flan

YOU encourage it.

With the why keep score and everyone needs a trophy and that's not fair attitude.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

FNW wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Not only applauded, but encouraged.
I know. Where's the incentive when everyone gets the same reward.

None. The point, I believe, is to kill the will.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I don't see that HERE.

But...carry on...

flan
YOU encourage it.
With the why keep score and everyone needs a trophy and that's not fair attitude.

And you can quote me on that?

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I don't see that HERE.

But...carry on...

flan
Honey, it's YOU, to a tee!!!!! You hate when something good happens to other people. You are the absolute most jealous person I've ever encountered. It's quite pathetic the disdain toy have for other people's happiness. ..

I swear, it's the Twilight Zone.

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I don't see that HERE.

But...carry on...

flan
YOU encourage it.
With the why keep score and everyone needs a trophy and that's not fair attitude.
And you can quote me on that?
flan

I don't have to.

You prove it every day.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

So you CAN'T quote me. That's what I thought.

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Again, I don't have to.

You prove it daily.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Tignanello wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Honestly, i am so over it. DD is a competitive athlete as i have posted. She plays a high quality game. This year a couple of the other competitive girls dropped off the school softball team. She is the only left with any sort of athletic ability. Well, at 14, she has done her share of playing and losing games with girls who don't care and don't try. It's getting old. And, propping up the ones who don't care and don't try is a big waste of time. So, we will play this season and she will also play the travel league . But, next year, who needs it? You work hard to do something well, then you get people who think it's all a big joke. I am sick of those people.
This is totally not a new thing. I remember playing basketball in highschool as a high-performing player. I used to win tournament MVP awards, where the votes came from other teams' coaches. One year we qualified for Provincials (like State finals) and my team decided that they didn't want to go because "practicing is too much work". I hated them all for a long time. I wanted to go to Provincials!

Edit: MVP not VIP

-- Edited by Tignanello on Saturday 21st of May 2016 01:52:51 PM

That stinks!!

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

It's all about the quotes, 'bout the quotes, 'bout the quotes.

Ohfour · Hooker

Flan,
You live to say that you don't see the world in black and white, but when called out, you expect others to do just that. It can be said that I worship the ground my husband walks on. Well, I've never actually SAID that, but from my posts, everyone know this to be true.
Because you haven't SAID you do not have disdain for successful people, you would prefer us to believe that you don't. Your posts prove otherwise. You don't have to say it, it is obvious in your posts. You are bitter and miserable. You don't HAVE to type those words. Your intentions come through quite clearly...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Saturday 21st of May 2016 07:02:31 PM

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

1. I am successful in my chosen profession.

2. For some reason you need me to be "bitter & miserable" to justify your treatment of me...

3. I'm not the one who feels compelled to keep repeating how "nice" I am, how well-liked, how "important..."

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

1. You are a part time librarian that is not liked by your co workers. Hardly successful.
2. I do not address you unless you directly address me or something I have mentioned. If you can't take it, quit following me around and leave me alone. (I know, I'm a magnet, its hard to do...but try).
3. I don't have to repeat it. I post about my life. Like everyone else. The fact that you are offended by my life postings speaks volumes. Many here are my friends on Facebook. Everything I post here is pretty much documented there. I'm posting about my life. Get over it.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I like you both so just quit it!!

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I like you both so just quit it!!

I like you too!

flan

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