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Seriously??  Sorry?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/03/asia/japan-missing-boy-found/index.html

Tokyo (CNN)A missing 7-year-old boy, who was left on a mountain roadside by his parents for misbehaving, was found unharmed after searchers spent nearly a week combing dense forest on the northern Japanese island of Hokkaido, officials said Friday.

He was discovered in a hut at a military exercise ground about 4 miles (6 kilometers) from the spot where he was left.
Takayuki Tanooka, the father of the boy, said he was "very sorry" for what happened to his son and regretted the punishment.
"I told my son that I am sorry that I made him go through a very hard situation. He nodded to me," Tanooka said at a press conference after being reunited with his son.
"I have been raising him with lots of love," he said, his head bowed and on the verge of tears. "I would like to pour a lot more love over him from now on, and watch him growing up."
"I never thought the situation would develop in such a way. I thought it would be good for him, but it was too much," he added.

Hungry but uninjured

Three soldiers from Japan's Self-Defense Forces found Yamato Tanooka on the premises of the military's Komagatake exercise field Friday morning, said Hiroki Komori, a spokesman for the Northern Army 11th Brigade.
The boy told them he was hungry. The soldiers gave him water and two rice balls, and said that the boy was fine and talking normally.
 
Search for missing Japanese boy tightens
 
 
 
 
Search for missing Japanese boy tightens 01:06
The boy told police he reached the building the first night he was missing, local media said.
He appeared to be in good condition for someone who had spent seven days without food, Dr. Yoshiyuki Sakai, the doctor who examined Yamato, said at the press conference.
He spoke coherently and showed signs of mild dehydration and malnutrition; he had light scratches on his arms and legs, the doctor said.
Yamato will remain in the hospital while his internal conditions are checked, the doctor said. He was being treated intravenously for dehydration.
The small building where Yamato was found is usually used as a rest station, but hadn't been used recently, CNN Affiliate Asahi TV reported. Yamato had wrapped himself up in two of the futon mattresses that were stored inside to keep warm.
He drank water from a tap outside.
 

Odd circumstances

News of Yamato's disappearance spread beyond the island nation due to its odd circumstances.
The boy's father told authorities on May 28 that his son disappeared while picking wild vegetables with his family.
Tanooka later admitted they left him on the side of a mountain road in the woods of Nanae, home to wild bears. It was punishment for throwing stones at passing cars and people.
When his parents returned for him, the boy was gone.
Tanooka suggested the family hesitated to report him missing because of the punishment.
 
"I thought it might be taken as a domestic violence," he told TV Asahi.
The lie may have put search and rescue efforts at a strategic disadvantage, said the Fire Department's Saito.
"We cannot speak retrospectively, but we would have seen a different development if we had known the story from the beginning," Saito said earlier this week.
Police are not currently pursuing charges against the parents.

Parenting debate

The case has sparked debate in Japan about parenting styles. Many have been highly critical of the parents, accusing them of neglect.
But some have been more understanding.
"Disciplining children through gentle talking is ideal, but it is difficult sometimes on busy daily life," said Kiyosihi "Big Daddy" Hayashi****a, a TV celebrity with 13 children.


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The police are not pursuing charges??

The parents didn't want to report because "it might be considered domestic violence" but the police are not charging??!

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Not surprising, really. Japan has a completely different attitude towards children than we do. They are expected to behave.

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The parents are jerks! The poor kid will probably be traumatized forever!

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Better off in a forest full of bears or an enclosure full of gorillas?!

Too soon?

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Mellow Momma wrote:

Better off in a forest full of bears or an enclosure full of gorillas?!

Too soon?

 I thought the same thing.  At least Gorilla-Mom didn't throw the kid down there!



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Tignanello wrote:
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Better off in a forest full of bears or an enclosure full of gorillas?!

Too soon?

 I thought the same thing.  At least Gorilla-Mom didn't throw the kid down there!

 So we are calling her Gorilla-Mom now?  LOL



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Lawyerlady wrote:

Not surprising, really. Japan has a completely different attitude towards children than we do. They are expected to behave.

 And they have a completely different attitude about their gov't dictating how they discipline their children.  Can't judge the parents based on our culture.



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Mellow Momma wrote:

Better off in a forest full of bears or an enclosure full of gorillas?!

Too soon?

 Eh Gorilla boy is fine, so not too soon.



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Better off in a forest full of bears or an enclosure full of gorillas?!

Too soon?

 I thought the same thing.  At least Gorilla-Mom didn't throw the kid down there!

 So we are calling her Gorilla-Mom now?  LOL

 I couldn't think of anything else!  It was either Gorilla-Mom or "that woman whose kid went into  the gorilla enclosure".  Gorilla-Mom is less typing.



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I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:

Not surprising, really. Japan has a completely different attitude towards children than we do. They are expected to behave.

 And they have a completely different attitude about their gov't dictating how they discipline their children.  Can't judge the parents based on our culture.

 I think that abandoning them in the woods exceeds even the Japanese ideas of discipline.  Especially when an entire army platoon has to be called out to find the kid.



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Back in the bad old '70s my brother at about 5 yo was having a total meltdown so my mom kicked him out of the car in the K-mart parking lot (where we had been shopping) she circled the parking lot & picked him up. It was shock enough for him that he snapped out of it. I thought of that when I read this article. He could have been run over or abducted but he wasn't & back then it probably wasn't considered endangerment. I think that was what this dad was going for. I'm not saying either was right or wrong, just what society allowed.

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I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:

Not surprising, really. Japan has a completely different attitude towards children than we do. They are expected to behave.

 And they have a completely different attitude about their gov't dictating how they discipline their children.  Can't judge the parents based on our culture.

I'm not saying there were in any way right in what they did--but I think a little less government interference in the U.S. would generally be a good thing. 



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I saw the story on the news this morning.

So even IF they parents didn't want to alert the authorities, why didn't THEY search themselves?

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I'm glad the kid is okay.

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Tangerine wrote:

I'm glad the kid is okay.

 Me too.



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Fort Worth Mom wrote:
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I'm glad the kid is okay.

 Me too.

 Physically, at least!

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I'm glad he is safe too, That boy seems smart & resilliant. He has a bright future.

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Pretty much general consensus that the dad is not really hitting on all six cylinders. His answers during various interviews were slow, wandering, etc. Lots of concern that he did not come clean, so to speak, right away so the rescue teams could have a better idea of what they were dealing with. It will be interesting to see what the final outcome of all this is....

It is my wife's opinion that, at the very least, the family will have to move to a new neighborhood or town.....

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Tignanello wrote:
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Lawyerlady wrote:

Not surprising, really. Japan has a completely different attitude towards children than we do. They are expected to behave.

 And they have a completely different attitude about their gov't dictating how they discipline their children.  Can't judge the parents based on our culture.

 I think that abandoning them in the woods exceeds even the Japanese ideas of discipline.  Especially when an entire army platoon has to be called out to find the kid.

 But they did search, isn't this the one where the mother claimed to have lost him when on a picnic and all their friends searched for hours?



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Pretty much general consensus that the dad is not really hitting on all six cylinders. His answers during various interviews were slow, wandering, etc. Lots of concern that he did not come clean, so to speak, right away so the rescue teams could have a better idea of what they were dealing with. It will be interesting to see what the final outcome of all this is....

It is my wife's opinion that, at the very least, the family will have to move to a new neighborhood or town.....

 Oh sure pop in here when you have an opinion about some foreign country culture. wink



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karl271 wrote:

Pretty much general consensus that the dad is not really hitting on all six cylinders. His answers during various interviews were slow, wandering, etc. Lots of concern that he did not come clean, so to speak, right away so the rescue teams could have a better idea of what they were dealing with. It will be interesting to see what the final outcome of all this is....

It is my wife's opinion that, at the very least, the family will have to move to a new neighborhood or town.....

 Interesting coming from a "local" perspective.  Are the parents being  shunned by their neighbors?  For setting him out or not telling what happened immediately to help with the search & rescue?



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I think it is for failing to think a bit about the results of the action he took. The worst thing he seems to have done is NOT TELL THE TRUTH at the beginning of the whole mess....

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I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:

Not surprising, really. Japan has a completely different attitude towards children than we do. They are expected to behave.

 And they have a completely different attitude about their gov't dictating how they discipline their children.  Can't judge the parents based on our culture.

 I think that abandoning them in the woods exceeds even the Japanese ideas of discipline.  Especially when an entire army platoon has to be called out to find the kid.

 But they did search, isn't this the one where the mother claimed to have lost him when on a picnic and all their friends searched for hours?

 First story was that he wandered off while hiking/berry picking/whatever and that they looked for hours.  Then they told the truth.  Abandoned and not looked for.



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flan327 wrote:

I saw the story on the news this morning.

So even IF they parents didn't want to alert the authorities, why didn't THEY search themselves?


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The bears should be scared of THEM!

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Throwing rocks at cars and people requires harsh punishment, IMO. But this was too harsh.

Lexxy, Melissa Francis's mother used to abandon her sister like that, too. Kicked her out of the car and made her walk. She tried it once to Melissa, and Melissa hid when the mother drove back to get her. Then Melissa walked home. The mother didn't do that again because it didn't work to intimidate (scare) Melissa.

I can't imagine abandoning my boys like that. But I can understand the frustration and anger in some of the things they do.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

You can't impose your judgment on another culture. It's just their way. Celebrate diversity.

 I assume you were being sarcastic here.

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I think it is funny how judgmental all you supposedly nonjudgmental people are! LOL!

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

I think it is funny how judgmental all you supposedly nonjudgmental people are! LOL!

 We all judge..We are human.

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Are you saying it's customary for Japanese parents to abandon their children in the woods?

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Their culture will change as cultural values change. And, some of you think shame is a bad thing, but it isn't. If they are shamed for doing this, then the cultural values in regards to children will change as well.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

Their culture will change as cultural values change. And, some of you think shame is a bad thing, but it isn't. If they are shamed for doing this, then the cultural values in regards to children will change as well.

 Um, as Karl has pointed out above this is NOT a cultural method of disciplining children.  The parents themselves admitted that it was potentially domestic violence.

How can you call this a cultural value??!  



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Tignanello wrote:
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Their culture will change as cultural values change. And, some of you think shame is a bad thing, but it isn't. If they are shamed for doing this, then the cultural values in regards to children will change as well.

 Um, as Karl has pointed out above this is NOT a cultural method of disciplining children.  The parents themselves admitted that it was potentially domestic violence.

How can you call this a cultural value??!  

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My niece just gave birth yesterday in Japan to her daughter!! Amelia Kathleen! Her husband is stationed over there.  smile



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

My niece just gave birth yesterday in Japan to her daughter!! Amelia Kathleen! Her husband is stationed over there.  smile

 Awesome! Is it her first child?

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Yes! First child! And, she gets to stay in the hospital for a FULL week. Imagine that!

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

Yes! First child! And, she gets to stay in the hospital for a FULL week. Imagine that!

 I can't imagine THAT!

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