DEAR ABBY: My friend "Sara" invites herself and her two children over to play with mine from time to time. When it's time to have a snack or eat, she and her kids make themselves at home -- especially with the milk.
Abby, I work 70 hours a week. My children eat cereal often and love milk, but because of my schedule, I don't get a chance to go grocery shopping as often as I should. (I am a single parent.) How do I politely tell my friend that it's fine to make herself at home, but getting both of her children refills of milk without asking me is taking it too far? She knows I can afford it, but I'm uncomfortable asking because I don't know how to draw the line. -- WORKING MOM OUT WEST
DEAR WORKING MOM: I assume you communicate with Sara outside of her drop-in visits to your home? The next time you talk, text or email her, explain that you love her company and she's always welcome, but because of your 70-hour work schedule you don't get to the market as often as she does -- so when she brings her kids, please also bring a quart of milk with her. To do that is stating the facts, it isn't rude and it isn't asking too much. If she's your friend, and not a user, she will comply.
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I honestly don't understand the problem here. The OP has friends who come over and drink milk and the OP does not account for that when she grocery shops? So start accounting for it. End of problem.
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Wow. I have a lot more to worry about in my life than a few glasses of milk.
Not everyone is like you Husker. Again - blinders off please. Experiences exist outside of your own.
The OP said she can afford to buy more milk. So I don't understand what she is so upset about. I agree with husker. I don't get it.
Because if the friend comes over only a few times a month and kids gobble up all the milk, she has nothing left for her kids during the week. Why buy extra milk when she shops if plans haven't been made for the friend to come over? Then she would be throwing away all that extra unused milk.
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I buy gatorade and popsicles by the caseloads for the neighbor boy who comes to play. They do the same for my boys. I want my boys' friends to make themselves at home and raid my refrigerator. Keeps them here where I know what they are up to.
We loved when company came over cause we got kool-aid and hot dogs for lunch.
I'd rather my kids have fun with friends than worry about milk.
So you're a single mom and work a lot. I bet you pass at least 1 place that sells milk on your way home.
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It could be that the LW is annoyed that this friend invites herself and her kids over. If she works 70 hours a week I assume she has limited time with her kids and may not feel like entertaining anyone. Especially people that invite themselves? So I can understand the annoyance at the milk gobbling. If that's the case here.
Or if she really just doesn't want the kids over there, she could try being a grown up and say "you are not allowed to have friends over tonight". I know that is sooo tough but she could try it.
We were having an issue for a while when we found out SO's son was sharing our water bottles with all the neighborhood kids. Sure it's just water, but ten bottles a day really add up after a while. We told them they could drink out of the hose faucet if they didn't feel like going to their house to get water :p
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Was it a bad day?
Or was it a bad five minutes that you milked all day?
We loved when company came over cause we got kool-aid and hot dogs for lunch.
I'd rather my kids have fun with friends than worry about milk.
So you're a single mom and work a lot. I bet you pass at least 1 place that sells milk on your way home.
Exactly. Stop by the store and buy milk when you run out. Problem solved. How freaking hard is it to just buy more milk?! Seriously?! If you run out becasue friends came over, take 5 minutes and buy more.
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We were having an issue for a while when we found out SO's son was sharing our water bottles with all the neighborhood kids. Sure it's just water, but ten bottles a day really add up after a while. We told them they could drink out of the hose faucet if they didn't feel like going to their house to get water :p
Save any plastic bottles you empty and keep them filled with water in the fridge. Or, keep a supply of plastic cups on hand.
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We were having an issue for a while when we found out SO's son was sharing our water bottles with all the neighborhood kids. Sure it's just water, but ten bottles a day really add up after a while. We told them they could drink out of the hose faucet if they didn't feel like going to their house to get water :p
Save any plastic bottles you empty and keep them filled with water in the fridge. Or, keep a supply of plastic cups on hand.
Good idea!
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Was it a bad day?
Or was it a bad five minutes that you milked all day?
We loved when company came over cause we got kool-aid and hot dogs for lunch.
I'd rather my kids have fun with friends than worry about milk.
So you're a single mom and work a lot. I bet you pass at least 1 place that sells milk on your way home.
Exactly. Stop by the store and buy milk when you run out. Problem solved. How freaking hard is it to just buy more milk?! Seriously?! If you run out becasue friends came over, take 5 minutes and buy more.
When one works 70 hours a week, the grocery store may not be opened when one comes home and that is yet another 5 minutes, which is really 15 or 20 for a stop, that is taken away from her time with her kids and doing other household chores. I so get that, I live it.
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We were having an issue for a while when we found out SO's son was sharing our water bottles with all the neighborhood kids. Sure it's just water, but ten bottles a day really add up after a while. We told them they could drink out of the hose faucet if they didn't feel like going to their house to get water :p
Save any plastic bottles you empty and keep them filled with water in the fridge. Or, keep a supply of plastic cups on hand.
Good idea!
I've been a mom for 34 years and have always had the neighbor kids hang around. I've learned a thing or two.
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It could be that the LW is annoyed that this friend invites herself and her kids over. If she works 70 hours a week I assume she has limited time with her kids and may not feel like entertaining anyone. Especially people that invite themselves? So I can understand the annoyance at the milk gobbling. If that's the case here.
Now this could be the real issue.
I just don't understand how people go through life without the backbone to state how they feel.
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We were having an issue for a while when we found out SO's son was sharing our water bottles with all the neighborhood kids. Sure it's just water, but ten bottles a day really add up after a while. We told them they could drink out of the hose faucet if they didn't feel like going to their house to get water :p
Save any plastic bottles you empty and keep them filled with water in the fridge. Or, keep a supply of plastic cups on hand.
Good idea!
I've been a mom for 34 years and have always had the neighbor kids hang around. I've learned a thing or two.
Yup.
Little dixie cups are perfect for grabbing a drink.
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I've also filled a large thermos with iced water...the kind that you put on a table and they push the button with their thumb and the water comes out...kids love "getting" water themselves and are more apt to drink it.
We loved when company came over cause we got kool-aid and hot dogs for lunch.
I'd rather my kids have fun with friends than worry about milk.
So you're a single mom and work a lot. I bet you pass at least 1 place that sells milk on your way home.
Exactly. Stop by the store and buy milk when you run out. Problem solved. How freaking hard is it to just buy more milk?! Seriously?! If you run out becasue friends came over, take 5 minutes and buy more.
When one works 70 hours a week, the grocery store may not be opened when one comes home and that is yet another 5 minutes, which is really 15 or 20 for a stop, that is taken away from her time with her kids and doing other household chores. I so get that, I live it.
I get it. But she is spending more energy worrying about the milk her friend is drinking than she would if she just stopped by the store and bought some.
There must be a convenience store, gas station, or 24 hour grocery store in her town. Drive by and pick up some milk on the way home. Show your children the example of a generous friend vs a friend who is worried about who drank what. I just can't see getting upset that my friend and her kids drank the milk. If it is really that big of a deal, let your friend know you aren't up for company tonight. Sorry - too busy for a play date. It really isn't complex.
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Wow. I have a lot more to worry about in my life than a few glasses of milk.
Not everyone is like you Husker. Again - blinders off please. Experiences exist outside of your own.
The OP said she can afford to buy more milk. So I don't understand what she is so upset about. I agree with husker. I don't get it.
Because if the friend comes over only a few times a month and kids gobble up all the milk, she has nothing left for her kids during the week. Why buy extra milk when she shops if plans haven't been made for the friend to come over? Then she would be throwing away all that extra unused milk.
And why should she be paying to feed other people's kids? She has a budget for her family. Good thing Husker has bigger things to worry about - he doesn't have to experience living at the poverty line. Or think about any sort of experience that might differ from his own.
So when the kids come over put out bologna sandwiches and a pitcher of ice water and tell them No Milk!
I am with husker. I would just buy more milk or do what i suggested above. I feed neighborhood kids all the time. I dont ask them to pack snacks.
How nice that you & husker are well enough off to do that. Now, let's look at it from the experience of someone who might not have all the advantages that you have. Oh right - things outside your own frame of reference don't exist. Forgot for a minute.
So when the kids come over put out bologna sandwiches and a pitcher of ice water and tell them No Milk!
I am with husker. I would just buy more milk or do what i suggested above. I feed neighborhood kids all the time. I dont ask them to pack snacks.
How nice that you & husker are well enough off to do that. Now, let's look at it from the experience of someone who might not have all the advantages that you have. Oh right - things outside your own frame of reference don't exist. Forgot for a minute.
Except in the OPs case she says it's not about the money, but that she doesn't have time to buy more milk after they use it up. People are suggesting other ideas to help her not have to go back to the store and still have Drinks available.
Eta spell check fix. Also I would buy a box of juice boxes to hand out when they Come over.
-- Edited by NAOW on Monday 6th of June 2016 12:13:52 AM
-- Edited by NAOW on Monday 6th of June 2016 12:14:27 AM
You can freeze milk you know. Grab an extra gallon or two and freeze them. If they drink it all up you have an extra. No waste.
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So when the kids come over put out bologna sandwiches and a pitcher of ice water and tell them No Milk!
I am with husker. I would just buy more milk or do what i suggested above. I feed neighborhood kids all the time. I dont ask them to pack snacks.
How nice that you & husker are well enough off to do that. Now, let's look at it from the experience of someone who might not have all the advantages that you have. Oh right - things outside your own frame of reference don't exist. Forgot for a minute.
Except in the OPs case she says it's not about the money, but that she doesn't have time to buy more milk after they use it up. People are suggesting other ideas to help her not have to go back to the store and still have Drinks available.
Eta spell check fix. Also I would buy a box of juice boxes to hand out when they Come over.
-- Edited by NAOW on Monday 6th of June 2016 12:13:52 AM
-- Edited by NAOW on Monday 6th of June 2016 12:14:27 AM
Back in the ole day when I was a child and before dinosaurs roamed the earth powdered milk was cheap, easy, and popular. There were some mysteries of my childhood that I never understood. One, why we never found the "prize" in the cereal and why it was always the same prize. Took a long time to realize mom was putting the fake stuff in the name brand box. Another mystery was the empty milk jugs. We always had a couple that were sitting clean inside our pantry. They'd come and go but they'd always be there. Figured out later on that mom was pouring half the milk out and replacing it with powdered milk. We had no idea!
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So when the kids come over put out bologna sandwiches and a pitcher of ice water and tell them No Milk!
I am with husker. I would just buy more milk or do what i suggested above. I feed neighborhood kids all the time. I dont ask them to pack snacks.
How nice that you & husker are well enough off to do that. Now, let's look at it from the experience of someone who might not have all the advantages that you have. Oh right - things outside your own frame of reference don't exist. Forgot for a minute.
You keep scolding our point of view by telling us to consider other points of view. Try taking your own advice. And, perhaps read the letter where she said cost isn't an issue.
Wow. I have a lot more to worry about in my life than a few glasses of milk.
Not everyone is like you Husker. Again - blinders off please. Experiences exist outside of your own.
The OP said she can afford to buy more milk. So I don't understand what she is so upset about. I agree with husker. I don't get it.
Because if the friend comes over only a few times a month and kids gobble up all the milk, she has nothing left for her kids during the week. Why buy extra milk when she shops if plans haven't been made for the friend to come over? Then she would be throwing away all that extra unused milk.
If her kids love milk that much - it's unlikely to be unused. IF there is more, they will drink more - that is usually how it works.
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I can't imagine calling the mom and telling her to pack snacks for the kids. Sorry, I can make a few peanut butter sandwiches and some juice or something. A bag of apples is cheap or carrots and make some carrot sticks. OK, so she is working 70hr and too busy. I get that. So, you tell YOUR kids, hey kids, your friends are coming over shortly, so go make a few PBJ and carrot sticks and put on the table. The End. Cut the sandwiches in quarters.
Or tell the friend you are too busy for a play date. "Sorry, I just got home from work and haven't had a chance to unwind yet. Maybe tomorrow?" It's easy!
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It could be that the LW is annoyed that this friend invites herself and her kids over. If she works 70 hours a week I assume she has limited time with her kids and may not feel like entertaining anyone. Especially people that invite themselves? So I can understand the annoyance at the milk gobbling. If that's the case here.
Now this could be the real issue.
I just don't understand how people go through life without the backbone to state how they feel.
Right? Just tell her friend to call first. I hate it when people invite themselves over. Once in a while ok but I'm getting the impression that might be the issue. Just speak up. Why is it so hard? Whether or not I can afford to feed them wouldn't come into play. I'm not a 7/11 or a flop house!
not to mention I was raised that you did not help yourself to anything in someone's fridge nor did you expect to be fed every time you played with someone we ate at home
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-- Edited by Mary Zombie on Monday 6th of June 2016 10:15:43 AM
It could be that the LW is annoyed that this friend invites herself and her kids over. If she works 70 hours a week I assume she has limited time with her kids and may not feel like entertaining anyone. Especially people that invite themselves? So I can understand the annoyance at the milk gobbling. If that's the case here.
Now this could be the real issue.
I just don't understand how people go through life without the backbone to state how they feel.
Right? Just tell her friend to call first. I hate it when people invite themselves over. Once in a while ok but I'm getting the impression that might be the issue. Just speak up. Why is it so hard? Whether or not I can afford to feed them wouldn't come into play. I'm not a 7/11 or a flop house!
not to mention I was raised that you did not help yourself to anything in someone's fridge nor did you expect to be fed every time you played with someone we ate at home
I agree. The inviting themselves over is more of an issue than the milk. If you don't want them to come over, tell them.
Also - a creative solution would be to hide the milk in a cooler in another room, and say you are out.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
So when the kids come over put out bologna sandwiches and a pitcher of ice water and tell them No Milk!
I am with husker. I would just buy more milk or do what i suggested above. I feed neighborhood kids all the time. I dont ask them to pack snacks.
How nice that you & husker are well enough off to do that. Now, let's look at it from the experience of someone who might not have all the advantages that you have. Oh right - things outside your own frame of reference don't exist. Forgot for a minute.
Where in the letter does it say that cost is an issue?
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
And quite frankly, if this was my friend, and she was dropping by unexpectedly, when she headed for the fridge, I'd have no problem saying -
"There is only a little milk left and I'm saving it for the kids' breakfast. I don't have time to go to the store tonight, so please choose something besides milk for them to drink."
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
So when the kids come over put out bologna sandwiches and a pitcher of ice water and tell them No Milk!
I am with husker. I would just buy more milk or do what i suggested above. I feed neighborhood kids all the time. I dont ask them to pack snacks.
How nice that you & husker are well enough off to do that. Now, let's look at it from the experience of someone who might not have all the advantages that you have. Oh right - things outside your own frame of reference don't exist. Forgot for a minute.
Where in the letter does it say that cost is an issue?
In fact, she says exactly the opposite. She CAN afford it, she just doesn't have time.
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And quite frankly, if this was my friend, and she was dropping by unexpectedly, when she headed for the fridge, I'd have no problem saying -
"There is only a little milk left and I'm saving it for the kids' breakfast. I don't have time to go to the store tonight, so please choose something besides milk for them to drink."
That's what I tell my friends about wine!😂
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And quite frankly, if this was my friend, and she was dropping by unexpectedly, when she headed for the fridge, I'd have no problem saying -
"There is only a little milk left and I'm saving it for the kids' breakfast. I don't have time to go to the store tonight, so please choose something besides milk for them to drink."