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Nattaphon “Ice” Wangyot, a male-t0-female transgender athlete became the first trans student to compete for a high school state championship last week.

Wangyot, a senior at Haines High School in Alaska, beat a number of biologically female competitors to the finals at the state Track & Field meet in Anchorage. But her presence at the race was met with some criticism from her fellow runners.

“I don’t know what’s politically correct to say, but in my opinion your gender is what you’re born with” said Peyton Young, another competitor at the meet, in a comment to Alaska Dispatch News. “It’s the DNA. Genetically a guy has more muscle mass than a girl, and if he’s racing against a girl, he may have an advantage.”

The event was also protested by the conservative group Alaska Family Action, who according to USA Today, arrived at the meet with a dozen supporters.

The group’s president, Jim Minnery, told the Alaska Dispatch News that allowing Wangyot to compete was unfair. “Allowing students to play on teams of the opposite sex disproportionately impacts female students, who will lose spots on track, soccer and volleyball teams to male students who identify as female.”

However, other Alaskan high schoolers at the event disagreed with the protests. “It’s cool that she’s got the confidence to be here,” one male high schooler said.

Alia Bales, another female high schooler at the event, told Alaska Dispatch News that if other female competitors, like defending chapion Tanner Ealum, were able to beat Wangyot, it would disprove the unfairness argument.

“If Tanner can beat her, anybody can have a chance to beat her” said Bales.

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Funny, how the libs claim to be all about girl power. Well, these poser girls are going to take all the glory away from real women. So long Title IX! Women's teams will be a bunch of trannies now...

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Wait, she beat a number of competitors but did not win correct?

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Wait, she beat a number of competitors but did not win correct?


 But so what?  Not ALL males would beat ALL females at every athletic contest, either.

 

However, on average, they would win a lot more.  They would take spots on teams from otherwise deserving females.

 

This is blatant violation of Title IX.



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Funny, how the libs claim to be all about girl power. Well, these poser girls are going to take all the glory away from real women. So long Title IX! Women's teams will be a bunch of trannies now...


 When being derogatory, you could at least be accurate. Do you know what a "tranny" is? Transvestite vs Transgender, google it.

 



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apple wrote:
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Funny, how the libs claim to be all about girl power. Well, these poser girls are going to take all the glory away from real women. So long Title IX! Women's teams will be a bunch of trannies now...


 When being derogatory, you could at least be accurate. Do you know what a "tranny" is? Transvestite vs Transgender, google it.

 


 Don't care.  Fvcked up in the head perverts all.



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huskerbb wrote:
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Funny, how the libs claim to be all about girl power. Well, these poser girls are going to take all the glory away from real women. So long Title IX! Women's teams will be a bunch of trannies now...


 When being derogatory, you could at least be accurate. Do you know what a "tranny" is? Transvestite vs Transgender, google it.

 


 Don't care.  Fvcked up in the head perverts all.


 You don't care to be accurate, how shocking!confuse



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apple wrote:
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Funny, how the libs claim to be all about girl power. Well, these poser girls are going to take all the glory away from real women. So long Title IX! Women's teams will be a bunch of trannies now...


 When being derogatory, you could at least be accurate. Do you know what a "tranny" is? Transvestite vs Transgender, google it.

 


 Don't care.  Fvcked up in the head perverts all.


 You don't care to be accurate, how shocking!confuse


 That is accurate.



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huskerbb wrote:
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Funny, how the libs claim to be all about girl power. Well, these poser girls are going to take all the glory away from real women. So long Title IX! Women's teams will be a bunch of trannies now...


 When being derogatory, you could at least be accurate. Do you know what a "tranny" is? Transvestite vs Transgender, google it.

 


 Don't care.  Fvcked up in the head perverts all.


 You don't care to be accurate, how shocking!confuse


 That is accurate.


 Do you think you are going to change anyone's mind here? Seriously husker...with all your huffing & puffing...it's pathetic.

So, enlighten us: What was your God thinking by creating a "fvcked up in the head pervert?" Was it his idea of a cosmic joke?

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Does anyone really think it fair to make girls compete against a biological boy? I mean, REALLY?

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Ok. So in one post this thread went from discussing how a male to female opponent has an unfair advantage to an argument about derogatory statements.

I gotta say, that's typical of the left.

Don't talk about the real issue, talk about everything else around it.

A man should not be competing against women.



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flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
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Funny, how the libs claim to be all about girl power. Well, these poser girls are going to take all the glory away from real women. So long Title IX! Women's teams will be a bunch of trannies now...


 When being derogatory, you could at least be accurate. Do you know what a "tranny" is? Transvestite vs Transgender, google it.

 


 Don't care.  Fvcked up in the head perverts all.


 You don't care to be accurate, how shocking!confuse


 That is accurate.


 Do you think you are going to change anyone's mind here? Seriously husker...with all your huffing & puffing...it's pathetic.

So, enlighten us: What was your God thinking by creating a "fvcked up in the head pervert?" Was it his idea of a cosmic joke?

flan


 It's no different than anyone else with a mental illness--except here we aren't trying to treat the illness, we are giving in to it.

its like giving the addict his drugs--or saying to the pedophile, just go ahead and do what you want.

using your illogic, pedophiles are created in the same way.



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Transgender people for the most part undergo hormone therapy. Do you know what that does to those that are born with male genitalia?

Hormone therapy, anti-androgens and estrogen shape the body, after 2 years research indicates that there is a significant reduction in muscle mass.

So, no they do not have more muscle mass.



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Ok. So in one post this thread went from discussing how a male to female opponent has an unfair advantage to an argument about derogatory statements.

I gotta say, that's typical of the left.

Don't talk about the real issue, talk about everything else around it.

A man should not be competing against women.


 And who made the FIRST derogatory comment?

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lilyofcourse wrote:

Ok. So in one post this thread went from discussing how a male to female opponent has an unfair advantage to an argument about derogatory statements.

I gotta say, that's typical of the left.

Don't talk about the real issue, talk about everything else around it.

A man should not be competing against women.


 And who made the FIRST derogatory comment?

flan


 b i n g o.

 

 



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God love you...dictionary.com has this as the definition of tranny. Maybe you should look up things before you make yourself look foolish...

transvestite, transsexual, or transgender

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lilyofcourse wrote:

Ok. So in one post this thread went from discussing how a male to female opponent has an unfair advantage to an argument about derogatory statements.

I gotta say, that's typical of the left.

Don't talk about the real issue, talk about everything else around it.

A man should not be competing against women.


 And who made the FIRST derogatory comment?

flan


 b i n g o.

 

 


 But the POINT is that you focused in on a common word you consider derogatory instead of talking about the subject.  Deflect, deflect, deflect. 

 

 



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The derogatory word IS the subject.

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Ohfour wrote:

God love you...dictionary.com has this as the definition of tranny. Maybe you should look up things before you make yourself look foolish...

transvestite, transsexual, or transgender


 MAYBE it is a nickname for those words, but those three words do NOT mean the same thing.

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The term 'tranny' is only used when talking down to a person who does not fit inside accepted gender roles or as a way of degrading the person to a level below themselves.

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flan327 wrote:
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God love you...dictionary.com has this as the definition of tranny. Maybe you should look up things before you make yourself look foolish...

transvestite, transsexual, or transgender


 MAYBE it is a nickname for those words, but those three words do NOT mean the same thing.

flan


 No one said they did. But Tranny can be used for any of them, as opposed to Apple's comment that it should only be used for transvestite. 



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The term 'tranny' is only used when talking down to a person who does not fit inside accepted gender roles or as a way of degrading the person to a level below themselves.


 Trannies call each other tranny. If they can do it, so can I. It must not be such a horrible word...



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Okay....Tranny is a slang term used chiefly to describe people who are transgender, transsexual, wearing drag, transvestites, or cross-dressers. The term is "usually considered offensive and/or defamatory" by members of the transgender community.



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The term 'tranny' is only used when talking down to a person who does not fit inside accepted gender roles or as a way of degrading the person to a level below themselves.


 Trannies call each other tranny. If they can do it, so can I. It must not be such a horrible word...


 Sure thing, now lets see you go up to a black person and call them the N word, hey they call each other that right?

 



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The term 'tranny' is only used when talking down to a person who does not fit inside accepted gender roles or as a way of degrading the person to a level below themselves.


 Trannies call each other tranny. If they can do it, so can I. It must not be such a horrible word...


 Sure thing, now lets see you go up to a black person and call them the N word, hey they call each other that right?

 


 And it has been said REPEATEDLY that if it's a bad word, no one should use it.  It is RACIST for one race to be able to say it and not another. 



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The term 'tranny' is only used when talking down to a person who does not fit inside accepted gender roles or as a way of degrading the person to a level below themselves.


 Trannies call each other tranny. If they can do it, so can I. It must not be such a horrible word...


 Sure thing, now lets see you go up to a black person and call them the N word, hey they call each other that right?

 


 And it has been said REPEATEDLY that if it's a bad word, no one should use it.  It is RACIST for one race to be able to say it and not another. 


 You can say it all you want that doesn't make it true. 

But back to the point, trannie or tranny in reference to transgender people is offensive.

 



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Well, on the previous board, people got offended when the word dyke was used. On of the lesbians on the board said the her friends called themselves that and no one thought it was offensive. Just because you dont like a word doesn't mean you have the right to tell other people they should be offended...

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Ummm yea, dyke, fag and many other words are offensive, are you really that unaware?

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apple wrote:
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The term 'tranny' is only used when talking down to a person who does not fit inside accepted gender roles or as a way of degrading the person to a level below themselves.


 Trannies call each other tranny. If they can do it, so can I. It must not be such a horrible word...


 Sure thing, now lets see you go up to a black person and call them the N word, hey they call each other that right?

 


 And it has been said REPEATEDLY that if it's a bad word, no one should use it.  It is RACIST for one race to be able to say it and not another. 


 You can say it all you want that doesn't make it true. 

But back to the point, trannie or tranny in reference to transgender people is offensive.

 


 Well, unless you are a tranny, your opinion really doesn't matter.



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Ummm yea, dyke, fag and many other words are offensive, are you really that unaware?


 Offensive to you...not to them. You don't get to decide whats offensive to people and whats not...



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Ummm yea, dyke, fag and many other words are offensive, are you really that unaware?


 Offensive to you...not to them. You don't get to decide whats offensive to people and whats not...


 omg.  I give up.



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Good. Could you try discussing the subject now?

Specifically - because no one has answered my question -

DO YOU THINK IT IS FAIR TO MAKE GIRLS COMPETE AGAINST BIOLOGICAL BOYS?



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Good. Could you try discussing the subject now?

Specifically - because no one has answered my question -

DO YOU THINK IT IS FAIR TO MAKE GIRLS COMPETE AGAINST BIOLOGICAL BOYS?


 Its not that easy. There are many factors. 



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Good. Could you try discussing the subject now?

Specifically - because no one has answered my question -

DO YOU THINK IT IS FAIR TO MAKE GIRLS COMPETE AGAINST BIOLOGICAL BOYS?


 Its not that easy. There are many factors. 


 Such as?  It's not like you can decide - hey, this one isn't as strong as this one, so they can compete. 

 

It IS simple.  There is a reason girls and boys have different sports leagues. 



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Good. Could you try discussing the subject now?

Specifically - because no one has answered my question -

DO YOU THINK IT IS FAIR TO MAKE GIRLS COMPETE AGAINST BIOLOGICAL BOYS?


 Its not that easy. There are many factors. 


 Like what???? 



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Lawyerlady wrote:

Good. Could you try discussing the subject now?

Specifically - because no one has answered my question -

DO YOU THINK IT IS FAIR TO MAKE GIRLS COMPETE AGAINST BIOLOGICAL BOYS?


 Its not that easy. There are many factors. 


 Such as?  It's not like you can decide - hey, this one isn't as strong as this one, so they can compete. 

 

It IS simple.  There is a reason girls and boys have different sports leagues. 


 It seems to me, that it's time to add a third.

Just to be fair.



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Funny, how the libs claim to be all about girl power. Well, these poser girls are going to take all the glory away from real women. So long Title IX! Women's teams will be a bunch of trannies now...


 When being derogatory, you could at least be accurate. Do you know what a "tranny" is? Transvestite vs Transgender, google it.

 


 Don't care.  Fvcked up in the head perverts all.


 You don't care to be accurate, how shocking!confuse


 That is accurate.


 



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Fort Worth Mom wrote:
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Lawyerlady wrote:

Good. Could you try discussing the subject now?

Specifically - because no one has answered my question -

DO YOU THINK IT IS FAIR TO MAKE GIRLS COMPETE AGAINST BIOLOGICAL BOYS?


 Its not that easy. There are many factors. 


 Such as?  It's not like you can decide - hey, this one isn't as strong as this one, so they can compete. 

 

It IS simple.  There is a reason girls and boys have different sports leagues. 


 It seems to me, that it's time to add a third.

Just to be fair.


 What?  and offend yet another whole group of .008% of the population?????



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Lawyerlady wrote:

Good. Could you try discussing the subject now?

Specifically - because no one has answered my question -

DO YOU THINK IT IS FAIR TO MAKE GIRLS COMPETE AGAINST BIOLOGICAL BOYS?


 Its not that easy. There are many factors. 


 Such as?  It's not like you can decide - hey, this one isn't as strong as this one, so they can compete. 

 

It IS simple.  There is a reason girls and boys have different sports leagues. 


 It seems to me, that it's time to add a third.

Just to be fair.


 There are not enough transgender students to fill teams. 



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Biological males versus biological females is simply an unfair match up. Girls playing on boys' teams is quite a bit different than boys playing on girls teams.

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Okay....Tranny is a slang term used chiefly to describe people who are transgender, transsexual, wearing drag, transvestites, or cross-dressers. The term is "usually considered offensive and/or defamatory" by members of the transgender community.


 Not true.

Have personal experience with this.

I know a whole lot of trans this or that.

Have for most my life.

They do not care.



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The term 'tranny' is only used when talking down to a person who does not fit inside accepted gender roles or as a way of degrading the person to a level below themselves.


 Trannies call each other tranny. If they can do it, so can I. It must not be such a horrible word...


 Sure thing, now lets see you go up to a black person and call them the N word, hey they call each other that right?

 


 And it has been said REPEATEDLY that if it's a bad word, no one should use it.  It is RACIST for one race to be able to say it and not another. 


 You can say it all you want that doesn't make it true. 

But back to the point, trannie or tranny in reference to transgender people is offensive.

 


 Not the point.

The point is, should male to female trans be able to compete on female teams?

 



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Ummm yea, dyke, fag and many other words are offensive, are you really that unaware?


 Again, no.

I know a great many and they are not offended by those words.

Of course it does matter how they are used, but generally, they don't care.



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Good. Could you try discussing the subject now?

Specifically - because no one has answered my question -

DO YOU THINK IT IS FAIR TO MAKE GIRLS COMPETE AGAINST BIOLOGICAL BOYS?


 Its not that easy. There are many factors. 


 No there aren't.  



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 I'm aware. I just don't care.  



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Good. Could you try discussing the subject now?

Specifically - because no one has answered my question -

DO YOU THINK IT IS FAIR TO MAKE GIRLS COMPETE AGAINST BIOLOGICAL BOYS?


 Its not that easy. There are many factors. 


It's very simple.  Penises over here.  Vaginas over there.  Duh.  It ain't rocket science.  Oh, and let's not pretend there are all these hermaphrodites running around.  Liberals always want to point to some ridiculous extreme to justify their nonsense.



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