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Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Mom shares eerie photos of her son paddling on Disney beach where another boy, 2, was killed by an alligator

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

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FNW · Guru

The problem I have with Disney is the fact they created this oasis-like, beach front setting around a gator infested lake. Did they really expect that no one would step in the water when they brought out beach chairs, etc.? The natural inclination is to dip in the water to cool off. I consider this to be an attractive nuisance.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

What a horrible mother!!

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

FNW wrote:
The problem I have with Disney is the fact they created this oasis-like, beach front setting around a gator infested lake. Did they really expect that no one would step in the water when they brought out beach chairs, etc.? The natural inclination is to dip in the water to cool off. I consider this to be an attractive nuisance.

I totally agree. When Lily posted pics of the lake on the other thread with the tables & chairs I thought it was a bad idea. Just asking for trouble. Lulling the guests into a false sense of serenity. I don't even know why they would add a man made lake when they know there are gators everywhere.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

This is a stupid article and I am so tired of seeing it on the news. So some parent out of hundreds wanted her 15 minutes of fame so dramatized her kid on the beach.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

You know what? People swim in the ocean, too, even though people have gotten eaten by sharks.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Why is it stupid? She was,in the same position as the other child. They dodged a tragedy. Her point is that it could have been them or anyone.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Why is it stupid? She was,in the same position as the other child. They dodged a tragedy. Her point is that it could have been them or anyone.

Oh I get the point. Same point everyone is making with being compelled to sensationalize it.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Why is it stupid? She was,in the same position as the other child. They dodged a tragedy. Her point is that it could have been them or anyone.

So has everyone else who has ever been on that beach. But you don't find them taking advantage of a tragedy to go viral.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

The pic embedded in the article does not look like a place that people should be swimming. IMHO

Vette · Owl drink to that!

If I was the other parents (not that they are probably in any condition to be paying attention to news articles), I would take this as a slap in the face. It's almost like this kid's mom is snubbing her nose at them like haha, my kid's alive and yours isn't.

Which I'm SURE was not her intention, but the article itself seems to be pointless and in poor taste.

FNW · Guru

Lexxy wrote:
FNW wrote:
The problem I have with Disney is the fact they created this oasis-like, beach front setting around a gator infested lake. Did they really expect that no one would step in the water when they brought out beach chairs, etc.? The natural inclination is to dip in the water to cool off. I consider this to be an attractive nuisance.
I totally agree. When Lily posted pics of the lake on the other thread with the tables & chairs I thought it was a bad idea. Just asking for trouble. Lulling the guests into a false sense of serenity. I don't even know why they would add a man made lake when they know there are gators everywhere.

Absolutely!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I don't know if she was seeking this attention or not, other than to say, my kid was there an hour before. Not sure that is a slam or an attention seeking thing either way.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

FNW wrote:
Lexxy wrote:
FNW wrote:
The problem I have with Disney is the fact they created this oasis-like, beach front setting around a gator infested lake. Did they really expect that no one would step in the water when they brought out beach chairs, etc.? The natural inclination is to dip in the water to cool off. I consider this to be an attractive nuisance.
I totally agree. When Lily posted pics of the lake on the other thread with the tables & chairs I thought it was a bad idea. Just asking for trouble. Lulling the guests into a false sense of serenity. I don't even know why they would add a man made lake when they know there are gators everywhere.
Absolutely!

Honestly, when we were there, I was more worried about the pea fowl than alligators.

Pea fowl can be vicious.

FNW · Guru

Kind of my point. You weren't really thinking of alligators being in the water.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

No. But we were warned about the alligators.

My point is, I don't think anyone thinks about ALL that can go wrong on a trip.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

When we on trips, be it vacation or just to the local amusment park, I tried to plan for every thing that could possibly happen.

Dress all of us in same shirts.

Take a picture of each child before leaving that morning.

Made sure to have a list of names and numbers in each of our pockets.

We held hands.

Used sun screen.

Carried water.

Took little first aid kits.

Extra socks.

Always had safe words.

Done everything I could to lessen the risk of something bad happening.

Can you imagine being right there, probably touching the child, and an alligator grabs the child from you?

Who thinks an alligator will be there? Even with all the warnings we got, I still didn't worry about it as much as I should have.

Like I said, there have been times in which I get back home and start thinking about everything that could have gone wrong.

I feel so bad for that family.

NAOW · Vette's SS

I didn't take the picture to be an attention grab. I have been seeing a lot more people posting pictures of their kids in that same water too. I think it is in a show of support for this family who the internet has been ripping to shreds for allowing their kid to be in the water. Letting everyone know that it is a pretty common occurrence.

Lindley · Guru

NAOW wrote:
I didn't take the picture to be an attention grab. I have been seeing a lot more people posting pictures of their kids in that same water too. I think it is in a show of support for this family who the internet has been ripping to shreds for allowing their kid to be in the water. Letting everyone know that it is a pretty common occurrence.

I agree with this. My nephew and his wife were at Disney world last spring. She posted a picture of nephew and their little boy playing by the lake. My kids played by the same lake when we were there when we went years ago.

The woman was trying to put in perspective of where the two year old was playing and how safe it seemed.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Exactly. I think it offers perspective. Perspective that other GOOD parents felt comfortable in that area. They didn't climb a fence into an alligator enclosure.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Mellow Momma wrote:
The pic embedded in the article does not look like a place that people should be swimming. IMHO

Of course it doesn't. It's a Florida swamp.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yes, a swamp that was made to look and appear like a friendly beach.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Yes, a swamp that was made to look and appear like a friendly beach.

I've been on that lake many times - it does not look like anything I would swim in.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I think it has to be realized that there are risks. Like the ocean. No, Florida and Disney cannot police and eliminate every reptile and animal threat. They can't. Can they take measures such as No feeding, ban swimming, wading, boating, etc and so forth, yes. But, can they prevent this from ever happening again? No, they can't.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I think it has to be realized that there are risks. Like the ocean. No, Florida and Disney cannot police and eliminate every reptile and animal threat. They can't. Can they take measures such as No feeding, ban swimming, wading, boating, etc and so forth, yes. But, can they prevent this from ever happening again? No, they can't.

Alligators are natural to Florida. They come into people's yards, onto the golf courses - you find alligators almost anywhere.

This is no different than a shark attack on Myrtle Beach.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Of course, on Myrtle Beach - they don't usually have "no swimming" signs.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I think it has to be realized that there are risks. Like the ocean. No, Florida and Disney cannot police and eliminate every reptile and animal threat. They can't. Can they take measures such as No feeding, ban swimming, wading, boating, etc and so forth, yes. But, can they prevent this from ever happening again? No, they can't.
Alligators are natural to Florida. They come into people's yards, onto the golf courses - you find alligators almost anywhere.

This is no different than a shark attack on Myrtle Beach.

I think that is true. They can't control nature. This was a freak thing. Alligators don't like humans normally. It is even rarer than a shark attack. But, now everyone needs to understand there is a threat there, no matter how rare, it is still there.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Of course, on Myrtle Beach - they don't usually have "no swimming" signs.

Well, you are swimming at your own risk. They try to police and keep watch but you still are assuming the risk.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Of course, on Myrtle Beach - they don't usually have "no swimming" signs.
Well, you are swimming at your own risk. They try to police and keep watch but you still are assuming the risk.

And when you are wading in a lake in Florida that has "no swimming" signs posted? You wouldn't call that assuming the risk?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

The risk is so small but real. However, the parents did nothing wrong in my opinion. And, can you really live your life on what might happen but rarely does? I mean, we know people like that. People afraid of their own shadow. Yes, don't be a stupid idiot either and leap into the surf after a huge storm. Have some commonsense. A bit of wading, until last week seemed very benign. NOw, maybe we need to consider alligators and feeding times.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

NAOW wrote:
I didn't take the picture to be an attention grab. I have been seeing a lot more people posting pictures of their kids in that same water too. I think it is in a show of support for this family who the internet has been ripping to shreds for allowing their kid to be in the water. Letting everyone know that it is a pretty common occurrence.

Her interviews with numerous media outlets spoke volumes.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Of course, on Myrtle Beach - they don't usually have "no swimming" signs.
Well, you are swimming at your own risk. They try to police and keep watch but you still are assuming the risk.
And when you are wading in a lake in Florida that has "no swimming" signs posted? You wouldn't call that assuming the risk?

Sorry but i don't think of wading as "swimming". Neither do a lot of people. Maybe you do. I don't. It said "No swimming deep drop off". To me, that means don't go out too far or you might hit the drop off. But, i would consider standing in water up to ankles or knees to be safe and definitely not swimming. That's my opinion.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
NAOW wrote:
I didn't take the picture to be an attention grab. I have been seeing a lot more people posting pictures of their kids in that same water too. I think it is in a show of support for this family who the internet has been ripping to shreds for allowing their kid to be in the water. Letting everyone know that it is a pretty common occurrence.

Her interviews with numerous media outlets spoke volumes.

OK, that may be true. I only saw the one article. But, if they are soliciiting her, she may be talking to them thinking she is helping or defending the family in some way as if to say she didn't see the danger either. Or, maybe she's an attention whore. I don't know. Not sure why it matters exactly.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
NAOW wrote:
I didn't take the picture to be an attention grab. I have been seeing a lot more people posting pictures of their kids in that same water too. I think it is in a show of support for this family who the internet has been ripping to shreds for allowing their kid to be in the water. Letting everyone know that it is a pretty common occurrence.

Her interviews with numerous media outlets spoke volumes.
OK, that may be true. I only saw the one article. But, if they are soliciiting her, she may be talking to them thinking she is helping or defending the family in some way as if to say she didn't see the danger either. Or, maybe she's an attention whore. I don't know. Not sure why it matters exactly.

It doesn't matter to the story about the boy who was killed. It matters to the "importance" of the OP article. That is all I have been commenting on.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I think it matters in that it is showing that these weren't some negligent parents like some in social media were saying. That maybe this seemed very benign. So, i think it is an important story in that regard.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Yes, a swamp that was made to look and appear like a friendly beach.

It doesn't look friendly to me. It looks disgusting. If you want to swim, Disney has several pools you can swim in. You don't need to swim in that muck with the steep incline covered in rocks.

apple · Guru

I don't think anyone was actually "swimming" there were they????

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

There are plants growing up out of the water for heaven's sake. That doesn't scream "let's go swimming" to me. Of course, neither do the "no swimming" signs but that's just me.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

apple wrote:
I don't think anyone was actually "swimming" there were they????

No clue. With the signs posted, one would hope not. But who knows?!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Yes, a swamp that was made to look and appear like a friendly beach.
It doesn't look friendly to me. It looks disgusting. If you want to swim, Disney has several pools you can swim in. You don't need to swim in that muck with the steep incline covered in rocks.

Well, then maybe you never grew up in the country. We swam in creeks, ponds, lakes and all kinds of assorted swimming holes. But, they weren't swimming. You may consider standing in the water to be "swimming" but a lot of people don't. I don't.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Yes, being in the water is swimming.

And that water doesn't look like anything I would allow my children to touch. It has plants growing up out of the water. It clearly was not made for humans. Especially not with that steep embankment and the rocks on it. Regardless of where one grew up, "no swimming" is pretty clear.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
Yes, being in the water is swimming.

And that water doesn't look like anything I would allow my children to touch. It has plants growing up out of the water. It clearly was not made for humans. Especially not with that steep embankment and the rocks on it. Regardless of where one grew up, "no swimming" is pretty clear.

No. Being in the water ACCORDING to YOU is swimming.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

So, if i am standing in my bathtub with water around my ankles, i am "swimming" in my bathtub?

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Dictionary.com defines swimming as "to move in water by movements of the limbs". So strictly speaking moving in the water in your bathtub is swimming, yes.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Yes, being in the water is swimming.

And that water doesn't look like anything I would allow my children to touch. It has plants growing up out of the water. It clearly was not made for humans. Especially not with that steep embankment and the rocks on it. Regardless of where one grew up, "no swimming" is pretty clear.
No. Being in the water ACCORDING to YOU is swimming.

And according to a lot of us on this thread who reported being scolded by lifeguards for putting one toe in the water when we shouldn't. Being in the water when a sign says "no swimming" is stupid. You can't possibly think that when a sign says "no swimming" that it is time to parse out exactly what constitutes swimming?! For all they knew the water had the deadly amoeba in it and they were subjecting their son to a deadly amoeba. When I see a sign that warns me not to do something, I follow the sign. I don't try and determine what I might do that doesn't strictly violate the sign's intent. I see a warning and I figure it's there for a reason and I move along. Again, if swimming was a priority that night, Disney had many many areas to swim in. Choosing one that has a "no swimming" sign to SWIM in is stupid.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Well, sorry, i don't recall getting scolded for having a toe in the water. Maybe that is your experience but that isn't mine. Swimming is swimming. And we all know what constitutes "swimming". Funny there aren't any events for the swim team that involve standing there ankle deep so I missed that particular stroke, let me know.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

The swim team doesn't float using a blow up ring around their waists either, but that's swimming too.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

And again, when a sign tells me not to do something I don't sit there and try to parse out exactly what I COULD do that would technically be obeying the sign. There could have been a sensitive ecology in the lake, breeding ground for endangered species, E. coli, toxic waste, that miserable bacteria that gives you the sh!ts when you swim, the amoeba that kills you, protected habitat for a species...so many reasons for the sign. People just need to read the sign and act accordingly.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

WADE

verb (used without object), waded, wading.
1.
to walk in water, when partially immersed:
He wasn't swimming, he was wading.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/wading

TOTALLY GEEKED!

Mom shares eerie photos of her son paddling on Disney beach where another boy, 2, was killed by an alligator ONE HOUR later