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TOPIC: Alton Sterling's death as video shows two cops pinning him and killing him with six shots while his hands are Empty
Thousands protest over Alton Sterling's death as new video shows two cops pinning him to the ground and killing him with six shots while his hands are EMPTY
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Thousands of protesters gathered outside the store where Alton Sterling was shot dead, demanding justice
The father-of-five, 37, was fatally shot by two police officers in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, on Tuesday morning
New video shows one of the cops tackling Sterling to the ground and straddling him while the other pins him down
One of the police officers yells: 'He's got a gun! Gun! You f****** move and I swear to God'
Just seconds later, three quick shots are heard, followed by three more as the video ends
Cops removed a gun from Sterling's pocket but he did not appear to be holding it when he was shot
Blane Salamoni and Howie Lake, were put on leave. Lake was suspended before in police shooting of a black man
Baton Rouge police took CCTV footage from the store without a warrant but will hand it over to federal investigators
PUBLISHED: 16:03 EST, 6 July 2016 | UPDATED: 08:20 EST, 7 July 2016
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Several thousand protesters took to the streets on Wednesday night in protest at the fatal police shooting of street seller Alton Sterling - just hours after a graphic new video emerged showing the moment cops pinned him to the ground and pulled the trigger.
The graphic footage shows Sterling being thrown to the ground by cops Blane Salamoni and Howie Lake II after they received a complaint about a man making threats with a gun while selling CDs outside a convenience store in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
The cops are seen yelling at Sterling to 'get on the ground' - but he does not - before he is tackled by the officers.
As Sterling continues to move on the ground, the officer believed to be Lake reaches for his gun and then points it at the father-of-five's chest.
One of the officers then yells: 'He's got a gun! Gun! You f****** move and I swear to God.'
Less than two seconds later, the first shot is heard, followed quickly by another two. Three more shots are heard as the startled shop owner momentarily turns his camera away from the scene.
As Sterling lies on the ground with blood seeping from his chest, one of the officers leans over and grabs what appears to be a gun from the street seller's pocket. It is not clear whether Sterling was reaching for his gun, but he was not holding it at the time he was shot.
After the deadly incident, police took CCTV footage from the store without the owner's permission, but said they would be handing the video over to investigators.
It also emerged that Lake, a three-year veteran, has been suspended before for another police-involved shooting of a black man.
It's another situation where the person stopped did not follow directions. He told the police officers he was carrying a weapon, and said he was reaching for his ID. The police told him to stop and do not reach for anything, but the person did not follow directions.
Why, oh why, is it so order to keep your hands up and do as you're told, even though you don't think it's necessary. These men and women in uniform are scared for their lives as well. From the video I saw, he was struggling with the police officer, and resisting. I do not know if the gun was on his person or whether it was in the car, but if the police believed it was on his person, they were justified in defending themselves.
“Officer, I want to let you know that I have a concealed carry permit in this state and am currently have one on my person. How would you like me to proceed?”
I don't care who you are or what license you have, you say "gun" or "pistol" and rookie cop is going to panic, and you are going to get shot. Especially in today's day where BLM is inciting people to kill cops. Is it ok? Of course not, and this man should not have died. But if you are going to carry, you need to remember your training and offer the information to the police the correct way, and then follow the officer's instructions! This guy obviously did not.
You have to realize what is happening here in America. We have the BLM or "klan with a tan" rioting in the streets and calling on everyone to kill cops and white people. The cops already have a tough enough job, and now they are a target from BLM idiots.
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
There is always more to every story, most notably when there is a black person and the police in a "situation".
It looks to me like the police had the situation under control and then for some reason, they started shooting this man who was.... at the time, pinned down.
They received a couple of calls that a man was brandishing his weapon and threatening people. Of course they went in cautious. He struggled with them. He was reaching for the gun the witnesses had told them about. They shot him. The gun was on him...
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The police were called by a homeless man that he was threatening with the gun. He was a deadbeat dad, a pedophile, a gang member, and a convicted felon who was not supposed to own a gun.
The police did nothing wrong.
Yes, the nation is once again horrified to learn another black man tragically lost his life after an altercation with police. Alton Sterling was shot and killed Tuesday just after midnight in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Listen to the liberal narrative and you’ll hear that Sterling was killed for selling CDs outside of a Triple S Food Mart. There’s a bit more to the story, of course.
Police were called after Sterling had been threatening a homeless man with a firearm for asking him if he had any spare change. The homeless man had made the 911 call. After police arrived, Sterling had resisted arrest, and appeared to make a grab for his firearm at one point. This is still disputable, however. In the video footage of the shooting, you can hear the officer shout “He’s got a gun!” and “if you f—king move, I swear to God.” One of the officers then says something unintelligible, and two shots are fired.
So who is Alton Sterling? For starters, liberals should know he possessed an illegal firearm. As a felon with a lengthy rap sheet, Sterling is legally prohibited from possessing a firearm. Police records show Sterling had been a member of the Bloods gang, and had a list of offenses including battery, assault, drugs and weapons charges, and owed $25,000 in child support. He was also a registered pedophile, having impregnated a 14-year-old girl when he was 20. The media, by contrast, has portrayed him as a loving father of five.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
1. A person called 911 b/c he was threatening him.
2. He was a convicted felon with a lengthy rap sheet of violent crimes.
3. He was, at the time, illegally carrying a firearm which he had threatened people with.
4. He was a registered pedophile - he got a 14 year old girl pregnant AND he was a deadbeat dad to his 5 children.
The police are the ones that get the benefit of the doubt in this case.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
1. A person called 911 b/c he was threatening him. 2. He was a convicted felon with a lengthy rap sheet of violent crimes. 3. He was, at the time, illegally carrying a firearm which he had threatened people with. 4. He was a registered pedophile - he got a 14 year old girl pregnant AND he was a deadbeat dad to his 5 children.
The police are the ones that get the benefit of the doubt in this case.
As FNW said, it's gotten to the point where most of us cannot keep these incidents straight.
DOES #4 justify killing him?
Possibly #3 does.
As far as #2, THAT speaks to flaws in our legal system.
All of those things may indeed be true. But, it is not the job of the Police to be jury and executioner. Their job is to respond and address the particular situation at hand. I think this case is different than the one where the man was sitting in his car and shot after he was told to produce his concealed weapon permit.
All of those things may indeed be true. But, it is not the job of the Police to be jury and executioner. Their job is to respond and address the particular situation at hand. I think this case is different than the one where the man was sitting in his car and shot after he was told to produce his concealed weapon permit.
I agree, and as I said, sometimes it's hard to keep the details straight.
How would they have known the guy's rap sheet without knowing his name?
flan
I think you are missing the point. The police are involved in a situation where a split second decision can mean life or death. The rap sheet shows the man had a history of violence, of criminal activity and a disrespect for the law. Whether or not the cops knew his rap sheet - it tells us a lot about him and how he was likely behaving in the situation to escalate it to that level.
But what the police knew going in was that a man was out on the street threatening people with a gun. And when they tried to talk to him, he resisted arrest.
That's enough.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
How would they have known the guy's rap sheet without knowing his name?
flan
I think you are missing the point. The police are involved in a situation where a split second decision can mean life or death. The rap sheet shows the man had a history of violence, of criminal activity and a disrespect for the law. Whether or not the cops knew his rap sheet - it tells us a lot about him and how he was likely behaving in the situation to escalate it to that level.
But what the police knew going in was that a man was out on the street threatening people with a gun. And when they tried to talk to him, he resisted arrest.
That's enough.
Yes, then why bring up the rap sheet if it wasn't pertinent at the time?
I have the utmost respect for police officers and fire fighters. I saw a headline on our local newsfeed this morning from an LEO:
"For the first time in my career, I had second thoughts about putting on my uniform."
How would they have known the guy's rap sheet without knowing his name?
flan
I think you are missing the point. The police are involved in a situation where a split second decision can mean life or death. The rap sheet shows the man had a history of violence, of criminal activity and a disrespect for the law. Whether or not the cops knew his rap sheet - it tells us a lot about him and how he was likely behaving in the situation to escalate it to that level.
But what the police knew going in was that a man was out on the street threatening people with a gun. And when they tried to talk to him, he resisted arrest.
That's enough.
So resisting arrest is always cause for a public execution?
-- Edited by Lady Gaga Snerd on Saturday 9th of July 2016 08:32:34 AM
How would they have known the guy's rap sheet without knowing his name?
flan
I think you are missing the point. The police are involved in a situation where a split second decision can mean life or death. The rap sheet shows the man had a history of violence, of criminal activity and a disrespect for the law. Whether or not the cops knew his rap sheet - it tells us a lot about him and how he was likely behaving in the situation to escalate it to that level.
But what the police knew going in was that a man was out on the street threatening people with a gun. And when they tried to talk to him, he resisted arrest.
That's enough.
So resisting arrest is always cause for a public execution?
-- Edited by Lady Gaga Snerd on Saturday 9th of July 2016 08:32:34 AM
When you have a gun and have been threatening people with it? Yes.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
A suspect has a gun, and the police were called b/c he was threatening people with it? The police are already risking their lives just answering the call - they do NOT have to put their own lives at even greater risk to try to save the person that is the threat.
He was a criminal. He had a gun. He threatened people with said gun.
It was a justifiable shooting.
Don't want to end up dead? Don't threaten people with a gun and resist the police when they arrive.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
They are using 'resisting arrest' as the excuse to gun down and execute people. If the cop is literally sitting on you and closing off your airway, is your body going to try to breathe? Yes. So, they intrepret that as "resisting arrest". They taser people and then are screaming commands at someone they tasered seconds ago to comply with whatever they are screaming about and then they taser them again and again, when you are not in a state to be able to comply. These kinds of practices are what is resulting in unnecessary deaths. So, some of you can just keep justifying it and we can just keep going down this path. Or, we can look at better means of conflict resolution, engaging the police in the communities they serve so that they develop the public trust and so forth.
They are using 'resisting arrest' as the excuse to gun down and execute people. If the cop is literally sitting on you and closing off your airway, is your body going to try to breathe? Yes. So, they intrepret that as "resisting arrest". They taser people and then are screaming commands at someone they tasered seconds ago to comply with whatever they are screaming about and then they taser them again and again, when you are not in a state to be able to comply. These kinds of practices are what is resulting in unnecessary deaths. So, some of you can just keep justifying it and we can just keep going down this path. Or, we can look at better means of conflict resolution, engaging the police in the communities they serve so that they develop the public trust and so forth.
HE HAD A GUN and the police were called b/c he was threatening people with it.
Stop playing dumb.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
I am did not comment in particular on this case. As i said, i think this one is different than the man in the car. However, I also Have a Gun. So, if pulled over for speeding or something, should i be executed?
I am did not comment in particular on this case. As i said, i think this one is different than the man in the car. However, I also Have a Gun. So, if pulled over for speeding or something, should i be executed?
I am talking about this case. Stick to the subject. There are other threads for that topic.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
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