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Ted Cruz Booed After Failing to Endorse Trump: ‘Vote Your Conscience’

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RENO, NV - FEBRUARY 22: The trusted branding is seen behind republican presidential candidate, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) as he speaks at the Boys & Girls Club of Truckee Meadows in Reno, Nevada on February 22, 2016, the night before the Nevada GOP caucus. (Photo by David Calvert/Getty Images)
 

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CLEVELAND, Ohio — Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) gave a stirring address to the Republican National Convention on Wednesday night, but failed to endorse Donald Trump, telling Americans to “vote your conscience.”

Cruz congratulated Donald Trump on winning the party’s nomination, but stopped short of endorsing Trump outright, saying merely that he wanted to see the party’s principles prevailing in November.

He urged voters: “Please: don’t stay home in November.” But then he added: “If you love our country, and love your children as much as I know that you do, vote your conscience.”

“I appreciate the enthusiasm of the New York delegation,” he said, as he was booed.

Prior to that, Cruz had focused on the conservative principles at the core of the party.

He began with a lighthearted metaphor as he spoke in the Quicken Loans Arena, reflecting on the Cleveland Cavaliers’ recent historic victory in the NBA Finals. “LeBron James just led an incredible comeback victory, and I am convinced America is going to come back, too.”

Cruz went on to describe one of the fallen Dallas police officers, Michael Smith, who was killed by a sniper at a Black Lives Matter protest less than two weeks ago. “I have no idea who he voted for in the last election, or what he thought about this one, but his life was a testament to devotion.”

“He protected the very protesthttp://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/20/ted-cruz-vote-your-conscience/ers who mocked him because he loved his country and his fellow man.”

Cruz went to to describe the stakes in the upcoming election — namely, that each person could tell their children “that we did our best for our country.”

And the country’s bedrock principle, Cruz said, was simple: “Freedom matters.”

He then drew a clear distinction between the parties: “Of course, Obama and Clinton will also tell you that they care about our country’s future. And I want to believe them. But there is a profound difference in our two visions of our country’s future.”

On terror and trade, on education and employment, on immigration and the Internet, Cruz spelled out stark disagreements between Democrats and Republicans — focusing, interestingly, on Obama and not his would-be successor.

“Freedom means free speech, and not politically correct safe spaces,” Cruz added, nothing that the Bill of Rights applied equally to all, including “gay or straight.”

On abortion, Cruz said: “Freedom means that human life is precious and must be protected.” And he reminded the gathering: “Our party was founded to defeat slavery … Together, we passed the Civil Rights Act, and together we fought to eliminate Jim Crow 

 

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I like Ted Cruz. And, yes a lot of bad blood happened between Trump and him. But, I kind of dont' get it. It was Trump's celebration party. He won. It's like going to the birthday party and not saying Happy Birthday to the birthday boy.
I do think that Trump was wrong to hammer Ted in the way that he did. He should have made amends and apologized publically. Sometimes you have to stoop to conquer and lead. Trump should have done that. And, to hammer Ted in that way, Ted isnt the problem. The policies and politics of Dems are the problem, hammer on that.


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Cruz's speech was nothing but self-serving. I used to like him. I don't any longer. I can understand why Trump won't apologize.

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If you can't endorse, then stay home. You dont' get to have your cake and eat it too. Make up your mind. Trying to straddle both sides of the fence. Even dumb dumb Ryan saw the light.

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This isn't only about Trump. The Presidency isn't about Trump. It is bigger than Trump. It is about who Trump will surround himself with to govern. Wake up. It is about Supreme Court Justices and appointments to the bench. It is about the military and our safety going forward. Is Trump the perfect candidate? Heck no. In fact, he is moderate and liberal on many things. But, who will have his ear? Who will influence the direction of the country? That is what is important, not whether you personally like Trump or not.

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I mean what did he think would happen? Did he expect to get embraced for not endorsing? What does he hope to have accopmplished? Or, did he just want this one moment for payback and now they are even steven? Hard to say. I mean ultimately, everyone has to do what they believe is best for them and i am sure the pundits will endlessly analyze this.

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And, on the other hand Trump extended the olive branch. Here, you may speak, say whatever you want. Which in a way is very refreshing that Trump didnt' try to control every minute aspect of everything. And, if they didnt' endorse, he isn't all that bothered by it.

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Trump said himself he is a reactor and a finisher. Cruz threw the first blow, so to speak, and Trump reacted, and reacted hard and strong.

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I chalk it up to weeding out the problem people in the party which is why Trump is so popular, we recognize the part needs to clean house. Even Sharon day is at least pretending to like Trump.

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He doesn't have to endorse a person he detests. If he did - he'd be a hypocrite. There's no way to win that one.

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Trump won. He's the nominee. Whether you like him or not, you can choose him or you can choose Hillary. Or, you can choose neither and let the chips fall where they fall. Your choice. But, as i said, this is about much more than Trump. It is about everything that will surround his administration. Isis will continue to march on. The trade policies put forth by both parties are a resounding failure for America. Hillary will not a damn thing to stop the flow of illegals coming to our country who will fundamentally change and destroy our way of life. Look at Europe. Wake up. Hillary is the candidate of the status quo. She will stand by while the Health Care system collapses under Obama Care. She will appoint left wing liberal corrupt judges of her Ilk. The only winners will be her rich elite friends. She will bring more poverty, suffering, and pain to this country. If you want that, vote for her. Will Trump save us all? He isn't a messiah he is a man. If he at least makes some effort to right the ship, then there is hope for our nation. That is all i am asking of him. Deal with the borders and trade. That is a tall order in 4 or even 8 yrs.

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He doesn't have to endorse a person he detests. If he did - he'd be a hypocrite. There's no way to win that one.

 Then you don't show up to the party.



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It is hypocritical. If he detests him then don't come. But, i guess he couldnt eschew the spotlight .

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I am very disappointed in Ted😞 I'm afraid he has blown his chance for any future nominations. He should have acted like President Reagan when he lost to President Ford the first time he ran and graciously endorsed Ford. I like Ted but he made a huge mistake last night. He should of just stayed home.

I thought newt did a good job trying to smooth things over in his speech.

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He doesn't have to endorse a person he detests. If he did - he'd be a hypocrite. There's no way to win that one.

 Then you don't show up to the party.

 He's a member of the party, and they obviously asked him to speak.  



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He could have said no.

He's digging his hole deeper right now.

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It doesn't matter. He'd never be president. He's TOO conservative.

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Of course, if Trump fails miserably as President, he'll be able to claim he never supported him in the first place. Personally, I have no issue with someone standing their ground. He told Trump ahead of time he wasn't going to endorse him, so this pretend shock is just for the media. I can respect a man who stands for what he believes in rather than playing puppet to the political circus.





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Cruz said Trump did not ask him to endorse, and said he told the Republican nominee three days ago that he would not endorse him.

The Texas senator added that he was not eager to come and speak at the GOP convention after Trump threatened to “spill the beans” on his wife and accused his father of helping the assassin of former President John F. Kennedy. 

“You’ve got to get over it, this is politics,” an audience member shouted at Cruz.

Cruz expressed his disappointment that RNC attendees negatively reacted to his call to “vote your conscience,” saying politics aren’t a team sport with “red jerseys and blue jerseys.” He repeatedly insisted he would take a calm yet positive approach to this election, pointing out that he “did not say a single negative word” about Trump in his Wednesday night speech.

“The way to win... is not just to scream and yell and attack as a traitor anyone who would dare question our candidate,” Cruz said.

Watch Paul Ryan in 360 at the RNC



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I saw his spiraling speech this morning. He looked like a bitter, angry loser.

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Cruz is exhibiting poor sportsmanship.

I can picture him throwing himself on the floor and lamenting how he was robbed.



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Cruz is exhibiting poor sportsmanship.

I can picture him throwing himself on the floor and lamenting how he was robbed.

 It's politics, not sports. 



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Cruz looks like a sore loser and Trump gets more time to talk / free television time. Not too shabby for Trump, if you think about it.

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Actually i have reconsidered. Who says he has to endorse? It isnt Jr High. He did what he felt he needed to do. However it shows that Trump isnt afraid of looks. He can handle differences.

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I think it just makes Trump look better, too.

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Cruz is exhibiting poor sportsmanship.

I can picture him throwing himself on the floor and lamenting how he was robbed.

 It's politics, not sports. 

 Yes.

But you still don't act like a spoiled child when you don't win.

You congratulate the winner and wish them well.

Good sportsmanship is important in everything.



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No one has to endorse anyone.

But show some dignity.

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He doesn't have to endorse a person he detests. If he did - he'd be a hypocrite. There's no way to win that one.

 This.  There was no way for him to win on this one.  No matter what he said people were going to dissect it and tear it apart.  The truth is that the people who support Cruz will continue to support him.  They will say he did a good job.  The ones that support Trump will say that Cruz is a poor loser and only makes Trump look better.  And the Hillary camp will just say they're all idiots that can't get it together.  In reality it IS possible to have the same experience as someone yet come out of it with different feelings.  A good friend used to tell me, Two people can ride the same roller coaster at the same time and one be afraid and one love it.  It doesn't make either person's feelings different or bad.  Just like two people can be sitting on the same park bench and one is thinking about the wonderful cool breeze and the other is thinking about the beautiful smell from the flowers.  Neither is wrong.  They're just different.  That's how it works here.  People see and hear what they choose to see and hear in politics. 



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You are right NJN. There was no way for him to win.

But the establishment (who are now 100% behind Trump) needed him. And he is establishment. To loose their support would be a death knell for him. So he compromised. He spoke, "showing unity", but did it his way.



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I actually meant there was no real good way out of this speech. That is all. I was talking solely about the speech and nothing else. If he had not spoken he would have looked bad. He still, regardless of what people say, has tons of followers and he has to remember that and stay true to them as well. They did not want him to endorse Trump. So to do so would have cost him a lot. Like LL said it would have made him look unprincipled. There wasn't any way he could do this speech without pissing someone off. I though his speech was fantastic. He talked about freedom and liberty and man other important things. And I give him credit for telling people to get out and vote.

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He doesn't have to endorse a person he detests. If he did - he'd be a hypocrite. There's no way to win that one.

 I agree, and I actually...have a new respect for him for that.



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He doesn't have to endorse a person he detests. If he did - he'd be a hypocrite. There's no way to win that one.

 I agree, and I actually...have a new respect for him for that.

 Uh huh.  Well, if a liberal Dem suddenly "respects" you, then you most certainly made a wrong turn!



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This hurt Cruz more than Trump. Either way, i dont' think it hurts Trump much. However for Cruz, time will tell.

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I guess no matter what he does someone isn't going to be happy. I just don't want his chances to run again be marred by this speech.

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I guess no matter what he does someone isn't going to be happy. I just don't want his chances to run again be marred by this speech.

 I don't care for the man but it was a smart move and showed a bit of integrity IMO.



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He doesn't have to endorse a person he detests. If he did - he'd be a hypocrite. There's no way to win that one.

 I agree, and I actually...have a new respect for him for that.

 He had no business accepting an invitation from Trump to speak at the convention given the speech he gave.  Oh sure, he had some genuine great words and such, but at the end had to interject his wife and daughter into it as a slam to Trump.  He is arrogant and a poor sport.  He will be ostracized by the party is my guess.



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He should have said something to the effect of:

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I am a man of honor, and I pledged to support the party's chosen nominee. Therefore, to keep my honor intact, I must honor my word. Because the people spoke and elected Donald Trump, it is our duty to get behind him and support him - even if we don't agree with him.
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Something like that. Had he said something along those lines I could have respect for him. He loses any respect I had for him with what he went with instead.

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What's that old saying? The enemy of my enemy is my friend?

Ted Cruz made lots of new friends.

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Apparently he tried to meet with big time donor Adelson afterwards, but was rebuked and not permitted to enter his suite.  So that's one less friend me made.



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He doesn't have to endorse a person he detests. If he did - he'd be a hypocrite. There's no way to win that one.

 I agree, and I actually...have a new respect for him for that.

 He had no business accepting an invitation from Trump to speak at the convention given the speech he gave.  Oh sure, he had some genuine great words and such, but at the end had to interject his wife and daughter into it as a slam to Trump.  He is arrogant and a poor sport.  He will be ostracized by the party is my guess.

 He told Trump he wasn't going to endorse him.  Asking him to speak was stupid if they expected otherwise. 



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This just goes to show that Trump is pure genius. He knew exactly what he was doing letting Cruz speak knowing he was not going to endorse him. Ha! Love it!

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Yes, he did know. He heard Cruz's speech ahead of time and said go for it. No biggie to Trump, and it made Cruz look bad. A win-win.

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He should have said something to the effect of:

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I am a man of honor, and I pledged to support the party's chosen nominee. Therefore, to keep my honor intact, I must honor my word. Because the people spoke and elected Donald Trump, it is our duty to get behind him and support him - even if we don't agree with him.
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Something like that. Had he said something along those lines I could have respect for him. He loses any respect I had for him with what he went with instead.

  Well said. That would  have been perfect.



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What's that old saying? The enemy of my enemy is my friend?

Ted Cruz made lots of new friends.

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   So, does that mean you are now pledging to change your registration and vote for him?  If not, then your new found like for Ted means NOTHING. And, it actually confirms that he took the wrong approach.



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He doesn't have to endorse a person he detests. If he did - he'd be a hypocrite. There's no way to win that one.

 I agree, and I actually...have a new respect for him for that.

 He had no business accepting an invitation from Trump to speak at the convention given the speech he gave.  Oh sure, he had some genuine great words and such, but at the end had to interject his wife and daughter into it as a slam to Trump.  He is arrogant and a poor sport.  He will be ostracized by the party is my guess.

 He told Trump he wasn't going to endorse him.  Asking him to speak was stupid if they expected otherwise. 

 That's how Trump is.  He is a shake the hand across the aisle kind of guy.  That's how it works in business; a successful businessman does not cut off his nose to spite his face.



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Trump said he wouldn't accept Cruz's endorsement even if he gave it to him. So really, does it matter if Cruz did or not?

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Trump said he wouldn't accept Cruz's endorsement even if he gave it to him. So really, does it matter if Cruz did or not?

How can you not accept an endorsement?  That's ridiculous... 



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Donald Trump: I wouldn't accept Ted Cruz's endorsement

(CNN)Ted Cruz won't endorse Donald Trump, but the Republican nominee said Friday he wouldn't take the support even if the Texas senator offered.
"If he gives it, I will not accept it," Trump said at a news conference in Cleveland at the close of the Republican National Convention.

"I don't want his endorsement," he added. "Just, Ted, stay home, relax, enjoy yourself."
Trump, speaking the end of a week dedicated to unifying the party, once again revived the conspiracy theory published in the National Enquirer that linked Cruz's father to John F. Kennedy assassin Lee Harvey Oswald -- an accusation that has no evidence behind it.
Trump doubles down on denial of linking Cruz's dad to JFK assassination

Trump doubles down on denial of linking Cruz's dad to JFK assassination 01:33
"I don't know his father. I met him once," Trump said. "I think he's a lovely guy, a lovely guy. All I did was point out the fact that on the cover of the National Enquirer, there was a picture of him and crazy Lee Harvey Oswald having breakfast. Now Ted never denied that it was his father."
Trump first suggested that Cruz's father was involved in the assassination of Kennedy the morning of the Indiana primary, citing the tabloid story.
Cruz allies have since repeatedly pointed to that low blow from Trump as a reason for refusing to support the Republican nominee. And on Thursday, Cruz referenced the incident, as he drew an angry reaction from members of his state's own GOP delegation.
"I am not in the habit of supporting people who attack my wife and attack my father," Cruz said.
Trump: Heidi the best thing Cruz has got going for him

Trump: Heidi the best thing Cruz has got going for him 04:28
Trump devoted a significant portion of Friday's event, billed as a thank you to convention staff and organizers, to attacking his former primary rival.
Speaking at the RNC on Wednesday, Cruz had declined to endorse Trump, instead urging delegates to vote their "conscience."
Cruz said that the Trump campaign had seen the speech beforehand, and that he told Trump personally that he would not make an endorsement.
But Trump appeared to dispute that on Friday morning, saying Cruz went off-script at the convention.
"So Ted Cruz took his speech that was done, was on the Teleprompter, said hello, then made a statement that wasn't on the speech, then went back to his speech," Trump said. "See, to me, that's dishonorable."
Trump likewise said it was "dishonorable" of Cruz to abandon his pledge to support the Republican nominee.
But Trump said that Cruz's camp started it with an ad that ran in Utah showing racy photos of his wife, Melania Trump. The ad was put out by a PAC with no official ties to the Cruz campaign, but Trump said Friday that he doesn't buy that.
"Folks, a lot of us are political people," Trump said. "We're not babies. His people are on the PAC."
At one point in his remarks, Trump even suggested forming his own PAC to oppose Cruz if the senator runs again in four years.
"I don't see him winning any way, frankly. But if he did, it's fine," Trump said. "Although maybe I'll set up a super PAC if he decides to run."
Turning to his running mate, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, Trump asked, "Are you allowed to set up a super PAC, Mike, if you are the president to fight somebody?"

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/22/politics/donald-trump-ted-cruz-endorsement/index.html



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