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Wow.  That's all I can say.  Our counties' school did terrible.  DDs' school did great with an average score of 85% but the next school in the county drops down to 68%, and then some of them are as low as 25%.  What. the. hell.  

I can't believe they even counted and released scores, many schools had computer crashes during the test.  

 

 



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It's been a trend.

I think it has everything to do with how kids learn now.

It's more memorizing than learning.



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The dumbing down of America. The more uninformed voters the better...(sarcasm)

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I don't know how the basics are taught now.

My kidslearn to read using Phonics, but wetaught them at home.

The schools were teaching word recognition.

For example, "cat" was pronounced "kitty"

My kids learned math the old way too.

Schools teach "new math" and other crap.

 

And in some schools, the teachers can't teach because parents

don't care whether their kids show up, or do homework,

or bother to take tests.



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There is definitely indoctrination going on in the schools. That's why, IMO, religious education is so important.

Our school teaches them connections/relationships among numbers, words, etc., as a way to prevent the old "memorization" way of teaching.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

It's been a trend.

I think it has everything to do with how kids learn now.

It's more memorizing than learning.


 Yes, it is probably "teach to the test" which is so popular over here and why Japanese students test so well.   Using the knowledge, on the other hand......



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There is definitely indoctrination going on in the schools. That's why, IMO, religious education is so important.

Our school teaches them connections/relationships among numbers, words, etc., as a way to prevent the old "memorization" way of teaching.


 This is the difference in private schools and public schools IMHO. I wouldn't send my dog to a public school these days. Even the "good ones" are horrible. And private schools are less likely to follow a trend just to follow it. That common core bologna isn't even a blip on their radar. They just forge ahead and teach the old fashioned way - you know the one - the way kids LEARN! 



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My kids go to public school. I'm thinking about pulling them, if this trans gender stuff gets implemented. So far it's been suspended due to parental protest.

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Public schools are not run with common sense. The zero tolerance policies that kick kids out of school for ridiculous reasons are just one example. Every private school our kids have been in have been run by a person with amazing judgement and decision making skills. They have a "buck tops here" attitude and are not afraid to make a tough call. Once in awhile you might not agree but at least you know they are trying. Public schools principals have no authority any more. They used to run the school. Now the parents run the school. I can't live like that. I don't give my business to people who don't take control of their own house - why would I give my business to a school that doesn't either?!

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I went to both public and private.

There are pros and cons to both.

I'm so glad this is my last year dealing with public schools.



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So far, the public schools in my town/state are not as "indoctrined" as other states, but it is moving toward it. I went to my local grocery store yesterday and once again an example of the poor teaching going on; I was paying with my debit card, $30 cash back. The cashier struggle with how much to put in as payment. I had to tell her. This type of lack of basic math skills is repeated far too frequently.

DD is very smart and so figures a lot out for herself, she tends to use logic rather than the way it is taught. I would love to send her to private school, but not only is that pricey, she wants to stay with her friends.

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OK - I got DD's test results. The number scores are put into categories - Beginning learners (not demonstrating proficiency); Developing learners (getting there); Proficient learners (on track for college and career readiness) and Distinguished learners (well prepared).

DD is proficient in everything, at about the top of that section. But here's what I don't get - breaking it into percentiles - she's in the 94th, 95th and 96th percentiles for social studies, science, and language arts respectively. That means she performed better than 96 percent of the kids nationally in language arts. How does that not put her in the top category?

It matters b/c the school system is only putting distinguished learners into the advanced classes. Which is crap - because the test was so messed up that they didn't use it to determine promotion or retention, but they are using it to place the kids in classes? By messed up - I mean that the computers crashed regularly during the testing, causing distractions and frustrations on the kids.




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OK - I got DD's test results. The number scores are put into categories - Beginning learners (not demonstrating proficiency); Developing learners (getting there); Proficient learners (on track for college and career readiness) and Distinguished learners (well prepared).

DD is proficient in everything, at about the top of that section. But here's what I don't get - breaking it into percentiles - she's in the 94th, 95th and 96th percentiles for social studies, science, and language arts respectively. That means she performed better than 96 percent of the kids nationally in language arts. How does that not put her in the top category?

It matters b/c the school system is only putting distinguished learners into the advanced classes. Which is crap - because the test was so messed up that they didn't use it to determine promotion or retention, but they are using it to place the kids in classes? By messed up - I mean that the computers crashed regularly during the testing, causing distractions and frustrations on the kids.



Something doesn't sound right, to me, LL.confuse

I'd call the school and ask. 



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