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Babylon Town dilemma: What to do with an abandoned boat

August 8, 2016 By Nicholas Spangler   nicholas.spangler@newsday.com

Patrick Farrell, Deputy Commissioner of Public Safety for Patrick Farrell, Deputy Commissioner of Public Safety for the Town of Babylon, inspects a boat that was abandoned at Tanner Park in Copiague, Monday, Aug. 8, 2016. (Credit: Steve PFost)

The ghost ship arrived at Tanner Park Marina sometime last Wednesday night.

It was a 34-foot Silverton cruiser, filthy but scrubbed of all identifying marks, bearing a message for Babylon Town officials in black tape stuck across the helm: DUMP ME.

Town officials responded with a Facebook post seeking community help to identify the boat’s owners that as of last night had attracted more than a dozen offers to take the boat but no tips.

 

“Somebody’s dumping their garbage,” said Pat Farrell, the town’s director of public safety, adding that few of the Facebook crowd would want to take ownership if they knew the vessel’s condition: paint peeling, engine shot, cabin chock full of debris.

“This thing’s floating, but it’s not worth anything,” he said.

Sometimes these vessels appear in a marina. Sometimes they’re drifting in the Great South Bay. Sometimes they’re simply dropped over the weekend in an industrial park.

After 10 years on the job, Farrell’s encountered enough cases like these — about 10 or 11 a year — that he knows offhand the town’s response and the likely outcome.

His team starts by looking for a hull identification number, or HIN, required for modern vessels, that can lead them to the boat’s present or previous owners. In many cases it’s effaced or ground down. Here they found no embossed HIN or any signs that one had been ground down, suggesting the vessel was built in the 1970s, before the HIN era.

Nor did they find any identifying correspondence or receipts in the cabin. There were only a few DVDs from a thrift store in Copiague.

Farrell said he could recall only about five cases when the Town Attorney’s office was able to locate a ghost vessel’s owner. When that happens, consequences can be serious, involving fines, administrative fees, labor costs and sometimes criminal charges.

The vessel will have to come out of the water soon, he said: in the water, it could threaten navigation and pollute the bay.

If the Facebook gambit doesn’t work, town workers in coming days will remove the boat from the water to the town landfill, where metal will be separated from wood.

The thing will be disposed of, at a cost to taxpayers of $3,000 to $5,000.

Monday was a beautiful day at the marina, restored after superstorm Sandy and nearly full with bobbing vessels. Farrell stood glum. Another abandoned vessel had been discovered Sunday night at Venetian Shores.

“It’s a waste of town resources, time and effort when we could be doing much more important things,” he said.

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If they have had more than a dozen offers to take the boat, scrapping it at a cost of $3000-$5000 on the taxpayer's dime is irresponsible and stupid.

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Well, part of the job of townships are to clean up blight. Tearing down abandoned buildings and so forth. That is just part of what our tax dollars do. Offer it up for free to anyone who wants to come haul it away. There might be parts that someone wants.

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Sell it for scrap.

Sell it to the highest bidder.

A gallon of gas and a match is less than 4 bucks.

No way they could really lose money.

They don't have anything invested in it.

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I don't really see the point of whining about it. Townships have to take care of a lot of things. However, it does cost money to have to deal with anything that really isn't their responsibility. But, as I and Lilly said, i don't see why they can't easily just deal with it.

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Turn it into a play structure.

Use it for training.



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Give it a viking funeral!

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Well one problem is the vessel has to be searched for signs of crime. Example; a boat was found overnight in Rhode island and blood and broken glass was found so the boat has to be safe guarded until an investigation is completed. Then the police can get rid of it. No difference than a town having to pay to get rid of any other physical evidence.

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Sink it.

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Geesh the two lawyers are not being very lawyerly

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Meh. Sometimes the simplest solution is the best. Red tape sucks.

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I think an example should be made, otherwise everyone will think it's okay to dump their crap all the time

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There has to be fingerprints on the boat.

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Just throw the thing away. Geez.

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Sell it for scrap.

Sell it to the highest bidder.

A gallon of gas and a match is less than 4 bucks.

No way they could really lose money.

They don't have anything invested in it.


 Scrap - any buyer would have to get it out of the water

Bidder - no one wants these boats. repair costs would exceed the price of a new boat.

burn it . creates a navigation hazard

they said it will cost them $5000 to get rid of it.



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ed11563 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

Sell it for scrap.

Sell it to the highest bidder.

A gallon of gas and a match is less than 4 bucks.

No way they could really lose money.

They don't have anything invested in it.


 Scrap - any buyer would have to get it out of the water

Bidder - no one wants these boats. repair costs would exceed the price of a new boat.

burn it . creates a navigation hazard

they said it will cost them $5000 to get rid of it.


 When you sell it for scrap, it becomes the buyers problem. 

They can be repurposed. Play structure, office, sign for a business, broken down for parts.

Navigation problem?  You drag it to a field, light it up!

 



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And do you REALLY think it would cost that much?

No.


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Didn't realize we had a boat scrapping expert on the board

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Ooooo.... look at the snark on you.



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Who, me?

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ed11563 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

Sell it for scrap.

Sell it to the highest bidder.

A gallon of gas and a match is less than 4 bucks.

No way they could really lose money.

They don't have anything invested in it.


 Scrap - any buyer would have to get it out of the water

Bidder - no one wants these boats. repair costs would exceed the price of a new boat.

burn it . creates a navigation hazard

they said it will cost them $5000 to get rid of it.


 Town officials responded with a Facebook post seeking community help to identify the boat’s owners that as of last night had attracted more than a dozen offers to take the boat but no tips.

 


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