A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
Well my real work will begin. My baby grandson discovered my cabinets. I have two filled with nothing but Tupperware so I will have to train him to just play in those.
Well my real work will begin. My baby grandson discovered my cabinets. I have two filled with nothing but Tupperware so I will have to train him to just play in those.
What? No pots and pans to bang?
Grandma!!!!
Little man loves the cabinet with the pans in it.
All the grand's loved that cabinet.
__________________
I drink coffee so I don't kill you.
I quilt so I don't kill you.
Do you see a theme?
Faith isn't something that keeps bad things from happening. Faith is what helps us get through bad things when they do happen.
Well my real work will begin. My baby grandson discovered my cabinets. I have two filled with nothing but Tupperware so I will have to train him to just play in those.
What? No pots and pans to bang?
Grandma!!!!
Little man loves the cabinet with the pans in it.
All the grand's loved that cabinet.
And don't forget the wooden spoons.
__________________
LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
Well my real work will begin. My baby grandson discovered my cabinets. I have two filled with nothing but Tupperware so I will have to train him to just play in those.
What? No pots and pans to bang?
Grandma!!!!
Little man loves the cabinet with the pans in it.
All the grand's loved that cabinet.
And don't forget the wooden spoons.
YES!
__________________
I drink coffee so I don't kill you.
I quilt so I don't kill you.
Do you see a theme?
Faith isn't something that keeps bad things from happening. Faith is what helps us get through bad things when they do happen.
We put child locks on our cabinets to keep them out. There are still cabinets they are not allowed to go into. Cabinets are not for playing in!
That being said, my grandparents had a row of cabinets in their house where they kept our toys/games, etc. Those were OUR cabinets. We were allowed to play in those, but that made it special because we were not allowed to play in ours at home.
Why would your kids play in other peoples cabinets?
Kids learn boundaries at a very young age. Well, ours did anyway. Not saying yours didn't though.
And that was my boundry.
I never wanted to have different rules for other places compared to home.
If you shouldn't do it one place, then you shouldn't do it another.
I also was very careful not to start bad habits that I would have to break later.
__________________
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
We put child locks on our cabinets to keep them out. There are still cabinets they are not allowed to go into. Cabinets are not for playing in!
That being said, my grandparents had a row of cabinets in their house where they kept our toys/games, etc. Those were OUR cabinets. We were allowed to play in those, but that made it special because we were not allowed to play in ours at home.
My granny had a shelf with our playthings on.
And if it didn't fit on the shelf, it had to go.
But we rarely played with them, we'd rather be out playing in the fields and barn.
__________________
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
I never let my kids play with those things either, Lily. But my father removed the batteries from an old remote, glued the battery door down, and let the boys play pretend.
Why would your kids play in other peoples cabinets?
Kids learn boundaries at a very young age. Well, ours did anyway. Not saying yours didn't though.
And that was my boundry.
I never wanted to have different rules for other places compared to home.
If you shouldn't do it one place, then you shouldn't do it another.
I also was very careful not to start bad habits that I would have to break later.
Well, you kind of have to. I mean, my kids can get a drink out of my fridge, but I don't expect they will just open someone else's without asking. They might leave the bathroom door open at home, but they don't do that elsewhere.
There are all sorts of manners you teach kids about being somewhere else, but home is home.
__________________
LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Why would your kids play in other peoples cabinets?
Kids learn boundaries at a very young age. Well, ours did anyway. Not saying yours didn't though.
And that was my boundry.
I never wanted to have different rules for other places compared to home.
If you shouldn't do it one place, then you shouldn't do it another.
I also was very careful not to start bad habits that I would have to break later.
Well, you kind of have to. I mean, my kids can get a drink out of my fridge, but I don't expect they will just open someone else's without asking. They might leave the bathroom door open at home, but they don't do that elsewhere.
There are all sorts of manners you teach kids about being somewhere else, but home is home.
No. We closed the door to the bathroom here.
Getting food or drinks at home and getting food and drinks elsewhere was the same, too. You had to ask first.
I can't think of anything my kids were allowed to do one place but not another.
As for manners, they were practiced at home as well.
__________________
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
I never let my kids play with those things either, Lily. But my father removed the batteries from an old remote, glued the battery door down, and let the boys play pretend.
I didn't cause of the germs, mostly.
And they aren't toys.
If it wasn't a toy, it didn't get played with.
__________________
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
Why would your kids play in other peoples cabinets?
Kids learn boundaries at a very young age. Well, ours did anyway. Not saying yours didn't though.
And that was my boundry.
I never wanted to have different rules for other places compared to home.
If you shouldn't do it one place, then you shouldn't do it another.
I also was very careful not to start bad habits that I would have to break later.
Well, you kind of have to. I mean, my kids can get a drink out of my fridge, but I don't expect they will just open someone else's without asking. They might leave the bathroom door open at home, but they don't do that elsewhere.
There are all sorts of manners you teach kids about being somewhere else, but home is home.
No. We closed the door to the bathroom here.
Getting food or drinks at home and getting food and drinks elsewhere was the same, too. You had to ask first.
I can't think of anything my kids were allowed to do one place but not another.
As for manners, they were practiced at home as well.
Wow, really? How old did your kids have to be before they were allowed to get a drink by themselves? Or do they still have to ask first?
Cousin would move everything from tables and anything within the kids reach.
Not me.
My kids learned the pretty things were not toys.
I could put my 1 year old on the floor and she'd walk around the coffee table at mawmaw's and not touch a single thing on it.
Cousins 3 year old couldn't keep her hands off of things.
__________________
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
Why would your kids play in other peoples cabinets?
Kids learn boundaries at a very young age. Well, ours did anyway. Not saying yours didn't though.
And that was my boundry.
I never wanted to have different rules for other places compared to home.
If you shouldn't do it one place, then you shouldn't do it another.
I also was very careful not to start bad habits that I would have to break later.
Well, you kind of have to. I mean, my kids can get a drink out of my fridge, but I don't expect they will just open someone else's without asking. They might leave the bathroom door open at home, but they don't do that elsewhere.
There are all sorts of manners you teach kids about being somewhere else, but home is home.
No. We closed the door to the bathroom here.
Getting food or drinks at home and getting food and drinks elsewhere was the same, too. You had to ask first.
I can't think of anything my kids were allowed to do one place but not another.
As for manners, they were practiced at home as well.
Wow, really? How old did your kids have to be before they were allowed to get a drink by themselves? Or do they still have to ask first?
About 4ish.
No. They don't still ask.
I guess they were around 6 when they stopped needing to ask if they could get something.
They learned to ask how long till the next meal.
They learned self monitoring and control.
__________________
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
Oh ok. I guess I was confused. You said the rules were the same at home as they were at someone else's house, I was thinking you made them ask their whole life, lol.
I put dangerous things away and gated. But the gates didn't stay on too long, and they were just to keep them away from dangerous things, like the fireplace or large TVs that might fall on them if they bumped into them. It was more of an insurance policy until we could make sure they knew their boundaries. Even when they were around 2, we used our expensive Christmas ornaments and had a train around the tree and never had a problem. And the tree was not gated off.
I think each child/situation is different, too. People who have just one at a time might have it a bit easier. Then they become the older sibling when #2 comes along, and #2 benefits from that. And by then, #1 has learned (to some extent) boundaries, and helps teach #2, and so forth.
The only childproofing we did was those plug covers. We didn't do anything else, and it was never an issue. I didn't keep cleaners or anything poisonous in lower cabinets JIC, but they were never told no to cabinets, and I think, because of that - they never cared to even explore them.
__________________
LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Oh ok. I guess I was confused. You said the rules were the same at home as they were at someone else's house, I was thinking you made them ask their whole life, lol.
I was a single mom of 3 and I wasn't going to make my life or theirs any harder than it had to be.
I tried teaching them how to behave and conduct themselves the same no matter where they were.
And that gave all of us the ability to go and do things most others wouldn't.
__________________
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
Oh ok. I guess I was confused. You said the rules were the same at home as they were at someone else's house, I was thinking you made them ask their whole life, lol.
I was a single mom of 3 and I wasn't going to make my life or theirs any harder than it had to be.
I tried teaching them how to behave and conduct themselves the same no matter where they were.
And that gave all of us the ability to go and do things most others wouldn't.
Lily, you are giving the impression that you think the rest of us raised ill mannered children. We didn't.
Our home environment was much more "child friendly" I guess. You know, like were kids could be kids.
And I can't think of a single place where you could go with your kids that the rest of us couldn't with our kids.
I don't mean to come off as snarky and I apologize if that's how my comment is taken.
__________________
I drink coffee so I don't kill you.
I quilt so I don't kill you.
Do you see a theme?
Faith isn't something that keeps bad things from happening. Faith is what helps us get through bad things when they do happen.
Oh ok. I guess I was confused. You said the rules were the same at home as they were at someone else's house, I was thinking you made them ask their whole life, lol.
I was a single mom of 3 and I wasn't going to make my life or theirs any harder than it had to be.
I tried teaching them how to behave and conduct themselves the same no matter where they were.
And that gave all of us the ability to go and do things most others wouldn't.
Lily, you are giving the impression that you think the rest of us raised ill mannered children. We didn't.
Our home environment was much more "child friendly" I guess. You know, like were kids could be kids.
And I can't think of a single place where you could go with your kids that the rest of us couldn't with our kids.
I don't mean to come off as snarky and I apologize if that's how my comment is taken.
Well that's not how I meant it.
I have no doubt we have, or are, raising good kids.
__________________
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
I don't remember not knowing the difference between the rules at home vs. the rules elsewhere. My mom was a lot of fun and yet put a big emphasis on manners.
Just clocking out, yay!
__________________
Was it a bad day?
Or was it a bad five minutes that you milked all day?
I understand what Lily means, good manners, etc., start at home. While it might be a little more lax at home, if they don't have any boundaries at home it's hard to have them elsewhere. Consistency, and all.
Yes they do need to be taught manners at home. My kids wasn't allowed to run around during dinner. Throw food or stand up in their seats so we were never embarrassed taking them out to dinner. Teaching them to say please and thank you, show respect and to share.
Oh ok. I guess I was confused. You said the rules were the same at home as they were at someone else's house, I was thinking you made them ask their whole life, lol.
I was a single mom of 3 and I wasn't going to make my life or theirs any harder than it had to be.
I tried teaching them how to behave and conduct themselves the same no matter where they were.
And that gave all of us the ability to go and do things most others wouldn't.
Lily, you are giving the impression that you think the rest of us raised ill mannered children. We didn't.
Our home environment was much more "child friendly" I guess. You know, like were kids could be kids.
And I can't think of a single place where you could go with your kids that the rest of us couldn't with our kids.
I don't mean to come off as snarky and I apologize if that's how my comment is taken.
I didn't get that take from Lily's post. I took it that she taught them what they were expected to know outside their own house. If they obeyed it meant she didn't have to keep such a tight reign on them when she took them over to other people's houses.
__________________
Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug.
Having fun does not equate to having bad manners. You can let your kids play with pots and pans while at the same time teach them it's not an activity to do elsewhere.
__________________
Was it a bad day?
Or was it a bad five minutes that you milked all day?
Go play with the house full of toys and leave my pots and pans alone.
And I never wanted to send mixed messages.
That's ok here but don't do it at friends house.
Why do that?
__________________
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
We didn't overly child proof our home. We do have outlet covers on the outlets but they're for show only. DS learned how to remove them a few months ago. He has not figured out yet how to open the doors that have the child proof covers on the handles yet. I think it's more that his hand isn't big enough and he hasn't figured out he can use two hands but I'm thankful it's still a mystery to him.
He's being taught that different places have different rules and he must respect the rules wherever he goes. At home, he is welcome to get anything off his shelf in the pantry, his snacks or leftovers out of the fridge, or fruit from the fruit basket. He doesn't need to ask. He knows how to open the dishwasher and get a cup out of it if he wants a drink. He's allowed to push the sturdy chair over to the cabinet where his plates and cups are if there's none in the dishwasher and get one from the cabinet.
He's getting a lot better at putting dirty clothes in the hamper rather than just on the floor. He's been helping with laundry and dishes since he was about 1.5 and, while he can't read yet (he's starting to recognize words so reading won't be too far off), he knows where to turn the knob for the dryer and how to start it. He hasn't been taught how to work the washer yet since that requires different settings depending on what is being washed.
DS never got into playing with the pots and pans. He will pull them all out and reorganize them but he never truly played with them. He preferred playing with my cooking utensils. I still don't know where some things are and have given up looking for them. Thankfully, he's stopped pillaging the utensil drawers.
His favorite pastime is pulling all the ziplock bags out of the box and spreading them around the kitchen. He did that again today and, as always, was made to pick them all up. He also got the pleasure of cleaning the kitchen floor.
No harm from a ten month old playing with Tupperware. I have trained all my charges that there were only two cabinets they can get into. They do not bother any of the other cabinets and believe it or not they don't do that in any other homes they been to.
