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Vice-presidential debate fact check

October 4, 2016 By William Goldschlag   william.goldschlag@newsday.com

Vice-presidential candidates Mike Pence, left, and Tim Vice-presidential candidates Mike Pence, left, and Tim Kaine debate as moderator Elaine Quijano listens at Longwood University on Tuesday, Oct. 4, 2016, in Farmville, Virginia. (Credit: Getty Images / Joe Raedle)

Fact-checkers along with millions of other Americans were watching the vice-presidential debate between Sen. Tim Kaine of Virginia and Gov. Mike Pence of Indiana. Here’s what they found:

FIRST FACT FAIL

In his opening statement, Pence expressed a thank you to Norwood University for hosting the debate.

 

The debate was held at Longwood University. (CNN).

DID OBAMA RAISE TAXES?

Pence said President Barack Obama had been raising taxes.

It is true that under Obama income taxes went up on people earning more than $400,000 a year. Obama’s health care reforms come with a series of new taxes that do affect lower earners.

But Obama also has extended permanently tax cuts that were set to expire and enacted a series of temporary tax cuts aimed at jump-starting the economy. (PolitiFact)

IRAN NUKE DEAL

Kaine said the Iran deal eliminated its nuclear program.

Most independent experts say the deal is both effective on paper and close to the best outcome the United States could have achieved through diplomatic means to put the brakes on the program.

It’s not certain how well the accord will hold up over time, especially once some of its provisions expire. (PolitiFact)

WAGE LEVELS

Kaine claims that Trump said “wages are too high.”

Trump said in a GOP debate last year that with “taxes too high, wages too high, we’re not going to be able to compete against the world.”

Two days later, he said was talking about a proposed $15 minimum wage being too high, not all U.S. wages. in general. (FactCheck.org)

BORDER CONTROL

Pence said Clinton supports “open borders.”

Trump and Clinton differ on what to do about noncriminals who are illegally living in the United States.

But as far as prioritizing whom to deport, both have said they’d focus on criminals and dangerous individuals. She has also said, “We need to secure our borders” — not to eliminate border controls. (FactCheck.org and PolitiFact)

CLINTON FOUNDATION

Pence said the foundation “accepted foreign contributions from foreign governments and foreign donors while she was secretary of state.”

There were rules in place then were designed to put curbs on foreign donations to the foundation, which funds health care and education programs. But those rules didn’t eliminate dollars from overseas and, in one case, the foundation has acknowledged they were not followed. (Washington Post)

Pence said only 10 percent of the foundation’s money goes to charitable work. It’s closer to 90 percent. (FactCheck.org)

OUR MILITARY

Kaine said Trump has called the U.S. military “a disaster.”

He did. In a January debate, listing reasons “the country is being run horribly,” he included “our military is a disaster.” (PolitiFact)

SYRIAN REFUGEES

Pence said Clinton and Kaine want to increase the number of Syrian refugees by 550 percent.

It is true that in September 2015, Clinton had called the 10,000 figure for the United States a good start, but had urged an increase up to 65,000.

A caveat: Those numbers applied to fiscal year 2016, which ended by Oct. 1, 2016. Clinton has not discussed numbers for the current year. (PolitiFact)

TRUMP’S TAX RETURNS

Kaine said Trump broke a promise to release his tax returns. Pence said he has not.

In 2014, Trump said in an Irish TV interview that if he ran for president, he would “absolutely” release his tax returns. (Politico)

PENCE’S BALANCED BUDGETS

Pence said he has proud that Indiana under his leadership “has balanced budgets.”

That’s true, but it’s required by law no matter who is governor. (AP)

— Compiled by William Goldschlag

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How can Pence be fact-checked when he wasn't permitted to speak? I couldn't hear anything either of them said because Kaine wouldn't shut his trap.

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Biased, much? LOL! Every time what Pence said was true, the writer said something negative, anyway.

SYRIAN REFUGEES

Pence said Clinton and Kaine want to increase the number of Syrian refugees by 550 percent.

It is true that in September 2015, Clinton had called the 10,000 figure for the United States a good start, but had urged an increase up to 65,000.

A caveat: Those numbers applied to fiscal year 2016, which ended by Oct. 1, 2016. Clinton has not discussed numbers for the current year. (PolitiFact)




How on EARTH does that last sentence matter?

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How on EARTH does that last sentence matter?
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Because it helps the biased media put spin out there that helps their candidate.

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I am really getting sick of this stupid "Fact Check" Crap which is simply the slanted liberal left putting their slant on the "facts'. Which they seemingly can't ever be bothered to do Hillary or any Dems! LMAO!!!! What a steaming pile of Fact Check.

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Once you hear "Fact Check", you know a load of baloney is coming right behind it.

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Here's the disconnect between liberals and Conservatives. We are much more interested in what Trump DOES versus what he says. YOu are much more interested in what Hillary SAYS than in what she actually DOES. Which is next to nothing. The only thing she seems to passionately pursue is riches for herself. She hasn't done a damn thing for the country whatsoever other than make it worse.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

Here's the disconnect between liberals and Conservatives. We are much more interested in what Trump DOES versus what he says. YOu are much more interested in what Hillary SAYS than in what she actually DOES. Which is next to nothing. The only thing she seems to passionately pursue is riches for herself. She hasn't done a damn thing for the country whatsoever other than make it worse.


  You are so right!



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Yep. Actions speak so much louder than words. Anyone can SAY anything.

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