Trump can’t dismiss his reprehensible attitude toward women
October 8, 2016 By The Editorial Board
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump listens to a question during a town hall, Thursday, Oct. 6, 2016, in Sandown, N.H. (Credit: AP / Evan Vucci)
Donald Trump vowed Saturday that he will “never drop out” of the presidential race.
That means the Republican nominee has very little time to convince the nation that he deserves the honor of leading this great country. He can argue that the vulgar and predatory attitude he displayed toward women on a 2005 TV recording doesn’t reflect the true Trump. And he can claim that such reprehensible behavior shouldn’t matter in this race, as his most fervent supporters have said about his disparaging remarks toward Mexicans here illegally, people with disabilities, and war heroes and their families.
But conduct does matter. The dignity of the presidency matters.
In the 2005 “Access Hollywood” recording, made during a conversation with more than a half-dozen people on a bus, Trump, then 59 and recently wed, talks about trying to get a married woman to have sex with him, and failing. More damning statements follow when Trump brags about the sexual assaults he gets away with because of his power and fame.
“You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them,” Trump says. “It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.” When TV host Billy Bush replies, “Whatever you want,” Trump says, “Grab ’em by the [genitals]. You can do anything.”
It’s that arrogant display of conquest, of objectifying women, that has former GOP presidential nominee and Arizona Sen. John McCain and other prominent Republicans saying they can no longer support Trump.
Other GOP leaders are saying Trump should leave the ticket in favor of Mike Pence, the vice presidential candidate and Indiana governor. A few say the party should concede the White House and concentrate on retaining majorities in Congress, a tough chore if conservative voters disgusted by Trump stay home on Nov. 8.
Pence, who has been Trump’s most dependable advocate, said of the video, “As a husband and father, I was offended by the words and actions described by Donald Trump in the 11-year-old video released yesterday. I do not condone his remarks and cannot defend them.”
That’s right. Trump’s comments cannot be condoned or defended.
His first attempt at amends was worthless. In a statement on Friday in which he showed no remorse, he attacked former President Bill Clinton, the husband of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton. “I apologize if anyone was offended,” Trump said of what he called “locker-room banter.”
His second effort wasn’t much better. In a video released late Friday, he talked about how traveling for his campaign has changed him. He apologized, but then called the situation “nothing more than a distraction.” And he made a veiled threat that he would continue to attack the Clintons at Sunday night’s debate.
But that second statement, in which Trump also said, “Anyone who knows me knows these words don’t represent who I am,” was important, because the evidence suggests the opposite, and we’ve all known that for quite some time.
Whether he’s calling women “pigs” or “dogs,” attacking the physical appearance of an opponent’s wife or telling Esquire magazine, “You know, it doesn’t really matter what [the media] write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass,” Trump consistently degrades women.
So why is this different?
Because while Trump’s insults of Rosie O’Donnell or Megyn Kelly were shocking and inappropriate, these powerful women were not assaulted and could respond. When Trump degraded beauty queen Alicia Machado over her weight, some could rationalize that the two were in a business relationship based on her appearance. But here Trump bragged about women who could not or would not stop his advances because of his power in a way that, if it were proved and he were elected, should require him to alert the neighbors about a sexual predator moving in at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
That’s not to say there aren’t many reasons to be critical of Hillary Clinton. Revelations Friday from leaked emails about her paid speeches to bankers showed that. We have parsed her considerable flaws before. We will again. But we will not do so in this editorial in a way that falsely equivocates political missteps and poor decisions with sexual predation or a vile contempt of more than 50 percent of the populace.
Trump has one month to make the argument that he has the character to be president, starting with Sunday night’s debate. GOP leaders and candidates can support him, or not, and pay whatever price the electorate and their consciences levy for either move.
But his abominable behavior toward women cannot be defended, justified or dismissed as irrelevant.
And again, actions speak louder than words. Trump's companies have more higher level women executives than any other. And they have worked for him for years.
And as a woman - I'm more disgusted by Hillary.
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"But his abominable behavior toward women cannot be defended, justified or dismissed as irrelevant."
But her attack on rape victims is somehow dismissed? A guy wanting to date someone and wanting to have sex with her, while disgusting since he was married, is far more "normal" and far, far less disgusting and deplorable than a woman who attacks her husband's rape victims.
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The men commenting on Trump are flat out HYPOCRITES. Every damn one of them. And the women who are commenting on his comments, while ignoring that crap Hillary has said and done? Stupid.
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LawyerLady
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Of course he can dismiss it. He made some lewd comments. Big whoop. So have you Ed on this board. So has everyone. So have I. Whoopdedo. But, yes if Bill and Hillary can dismiss 30+ years of corruption, crimes, lying, stealing sexcapades, then yes, Trump can dismiss a few off the cuff lewd remarks.
And, some of these Repos are soooo disturbed. But, yet don't bat an eye at ALL that Hillary has done. The Clintons are master politicians. Trump has been in the public eye for a long time. I am sure there are a lot of comments he has made over the years. They will drop those for the most effect.
Right now i am listening to a Repo from PA who is calling for Trump to step down. He is soooo offended by Trump, then just simply glossed over Hillary's mishandling of classified materials. Um, ok?
Apparently, some of you want master, career politicians. They spin the narrative to always put the Repo on defense. We have been talking ad nauseum about Trump which keeps everyone from critically examining Hillary's actual record. Wake up!
Because nothing applies to them. That's why. Their schit doesn't stink and never will. They say and do whatever they please. And, if someone dares to criticize they hunker down and go on the attack. They attack and keep everyone playing defense. Trump just needs to focus on issues. Don't take their bait.
I want to see this clip, this sound bite, of his "incredibly offensive" statement.
But I truly doubt it's going to change my mind about voting for him.
He's a guy. He talks like just about every guy I've ever known. Maybe he is just a little bit more vivid in his language.
But if you want to get out the scales and measureing the two candidates, Hillary is going to lose every. Single. Time.
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Trump is also accused of violently raping a 13 yo girl.
And honestly, I am so d@amn tired of the excuse 'all men talk like that'.
Seriously?
Why is this acceptable? How would you feel if it was your sons, or husband talking like this?
Oh, and look up how many classified emails the Bush administration 'misplaced.'
It is interesting.
Trump is also accused of violently raping a 13 yo girl. And honestly, I am so d@amn tired of the excuse 'all men talk like that'. Seriously? Why is this acceptable? How would you feel if it was your sons, or husband talking like this? Oh, and look up how many classified emails the Bush administration 'misplaced.' It is interesting.
What???? Dona, you aren't listening to leftists lies are you?
I too don't like "all men talk like that" but the fact that Hillary has attacked rape victims, including one that is the victim of a pedophile, makes her far worse.
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Trump is also accused of violently raping a 13 yo girl. And honestly, I am so d@amn tired of the excuse 'all men talk like that'. Seriously? Why is this acceptable? How would you feel if it was your sons, or husband talking like this? Oh, and look up how many classified emails the Bush administration 'misplaced.' It is interesting.
Yep, Trump spent a good amount of time on Pedophile Island.
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Trump is also accused of violently raping a 13 yo girl. And honestly, I am so d@amn tired of the excuse 'all men talk like that'. Seriously? Why is this acceptable? How would you feel if it was your sons, or husband talking like this? Oh, and look up how many classified emails the Bush administration 'misplaced.' It is interesting.
Yep, Trump spent a good amount of time on Pedophile Island.
If that is even true Hillary's husband joined him and hillary didn't even seemed to care.
Trump is also accused of violently raping a 13 yo girl. And honestly, I am so d@amn tired of the excuse 'all men talk like that'. Seriously? Why is this acceptable? How would you feel if it was your sons, or husband talking like this? Oh, and look up how many classified emails the Bush administration 'misplaced.' It is interesting.
Oh baloney. He hasn't raped anyone. All of the sudden he's a racist and a rapist when he runs as a Republican. If you really want to fall for dirty politics hook, line and sinker and have Hillary eliminate our borders, shut down our coal mines, and destroy our economy while lining her coffers as a Global Sleaze then by all means vote for her. Wow.
Trump is also accused of violently raping a 13 yo girl. And honestly, I am so d@amn tired of the excuse 'all men talk like that'. Seriously? Why is this acceptable? How would you feel if it was your sons, or husband talking like this? Oh, and look up how many classified emails the Bush administration 'misplaced.' It is interesting.
Yep, Trump spent a good amount of time on Pedophile Island.
If that is even true Hillary's husband joined him and hillary didn't even seemed to care.
You are correct Lindsey. He and Clinton went together.
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
There is proof. But anything I would post would just be told it was false. Been there done that. People believe what they choose to believe. The truth is that Trump and Clinton went together several times. And it's also true Hillary didn't seem to be bothered. So not sure what is the bigger crime. A rapist or someone who doesn't care about a rapist. Pretty much all the same.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
There is proof. But anything I would post would just be told it was false. Been there done that. People believe what they choose to believe. The truth is that Trump and Clinton went together several times. And it's also true Hillary didn't seem to be bothered. So not sure what is the bigger crime. A rapist or someone who doesn't care about a rapist. Pretty much all the same.
More of your research?
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What are you saying???? That NJN pops in to create controversy? To see what we are talking about and then run to another board to gossip? Say it ain't so.
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There is a lot of proof about Billarys crimes. Sniff sniff pretend bury your head.
Hillary is just as much of a criminal. I don't believe I've EVER sang her praises.
And as far as I know I'm still a member here and can post whatever I want. I haven't taken one thing back to any other board either. Other people have done that. But please. Go ahead and blame me since flan isn't here for you to bitch at.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
BTW, I have never defended Hillary. But go ahead and spin.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
I never said I was offended. I find them tiring. People who support Trump thinks he does no wrong. People who support Hillary think she does no wrong. The two of them are a bunch of lying thieving law breakers. I get tired of anyone who defends them constantly. I don't want either of those scumbags running our country.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
Besides, you love controversy enough for ten people.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
See, I don't get this. I haven't cried offended once. Not one time. But it's much easier for you to attack me personally and say I'm offended than it is to argue with facts. I would have to care about one of these two people to be offended.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
See, I don't get this. I haven't cried offended once. Not one time. But it's much easier for you to attack me personally and say I'm offended than it is to argue with facts. I would have to care about one of these two people to be offended.
Hahahahaha! SERIOUSLY???? You said we make your life a living hell
I would say that you are pretty offended.
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If this beitch wins, think i will take a knee for the rest of my life.
I won't. I will not stop fighting for this Country. Although if it becomes hopeless, I wouldn't mind moving to some island. come with? LGS?
I could totally live on an island.
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
Trump is also accused of violently raping a 13 yo girl. And honestly, I am so d@amn tired of the excuse 'all men talk like that'. Seriously? Why is this acceptable? How would you feel if it was your sons, or husband talking like this? Oh, and look up how many classified emails the Bush administration 'misplaced.' It is interesting.
When, and by whom???? Your comment is the first I've heard of it.
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Trump is also accused of violently raping a 13 yo girl. And honestly, I am so d@amn tired of the excuse 'all men talk like that'. Seriously? Why is this acceptable? How would you feel if it was your sons, or husband talking like this? Oh, and look up how many classified emails the Bush administration 'misplaced.' It is interesting.
Oh baloney. He hasn't raped anyone. All of the sudden he's a racist and a rapist when he runs as a Republican. If you really want to fall for dirty politics hook, line and sinker and have Hillary eliminate our borders, shut down our coal mines, and destroy our economy while lining her coffers as a Global Sleaze then by all means vote for her. Wow.
Yep. He was perfectly fine while he was giving the Clintons money instead of running against them.
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