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An 8-year-old New Jersey girl has been denied entry into the Boy Scouts despite insistence from her family that she is “transgender” and identifies as a boy.

Jodi Maldonado’s mother Kristie, a resident of Secaucus NJ, tried to enter her daughter in the local Boy Scout troop on the grounds that the 8-year-old now thinks she is a boy named Joe. Kristie says she made it clear that her daughter was transgender when she enrolled her.

A month later, Kristie received a call from the Northern New Jersey Council of Boy Scouts’ head counsel saying Jodi did not meet biological criteria for membership in the Boy Scouts.

The third-grader is on record as saying that the decision “made me mad.”

“I had a sad face, but I wasn’t crying. I’m way more angry than sad. My identity is a boy. If I was them, I would let every person in the world go in. It’s right to do,” she said.

 

“They kicked me out because I am a girl — born a girl,” she said.

The policy of the Boy Scouts of America is to follow the biological gender of applicants. Although the Scouts have accepted homosexual counselors and members, they have held firm on recognizing the sexual identity of persons based on their biology.”

Scouts spokeswoman Effie Delimarkos said in a statement that transgenderism is not the same as sexual orientation.

“No youth may be removed from any of our programs on the basis of his or her sexual orientation,” she said. “Gender identity isn’t related to sexual orientation.”

While the mainstream media insist on referring to Jodi Maldonado as “he,” the child is a biological female who up until recently dressed and identified as a girl.

Jodi’s mother has continued to contest the decision, insisting that her child should be a Boy Scout.

“I felt bad for my son he was having a good time. They had a barbecue, the last day they had a Halloween party, and they did experiments. He really enjoyed it and he was with all of his friends,” said Kristie Maldonado.

In a position paper released in August, the American College of Pediatricians urged educators and legislators to reconsider the social trend toward normalization of “transgenderism,” insisting that “facts – not ideology – determine reality.”

“A person’s belief that he or she is something they are not is, at best, a sign of confused thinking,” the paper states. “When an otherwise healthy biological boy believes he is a girl, or an otherwise healthy biological girl believes she is a boy, an objective psychological problem exists that lies in the mind not the body, and it should be treated as such.”

The National Girl Scouts organization, which is not affiliated with the boy scouts, has accepted boys for years, under the condition that they claim to believe they are girls.

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I want to join the superheroes, because I identify as Wonder Woman.


 Go for it!  You'd fit right in!



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I'm reminded of a line by a child actor from the movie Kindergarten Cop: "Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina."

I don't object to her feeling boy-ish. But having a vagina disqualifies her from being a boy.

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I'm reminded of a line by a child actor from the movie Kindergarten Cop: "Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina."

I don't object to her feeling boy-ish. But having a vagina disqualifies her from being a boy.


 Having xx chromosomes makes her a girl.

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whatever happened to being a tomboy?

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I don't believe 8 year old can choose this. Yes, she is a tomboy. She hasn't even hit puberty, yet.

And no, she shouldn't be able to be in the boy scouts, because IT ISN'T all about her. A big part of being a boy scout is camping trips, etc, which only has men and boys there. It's not appropriate for an 8 year old girl to go off on trips with only men and boys. What the hell is wrong with her parents?

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It's called the BOY Scouts for a reason. Just trying to get their 15 minutes of fame.

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I'm gonna sat it....

I am so sick of the transgender theme. There girls that are tom boys, there are boys that like Barbie. Leave them alone. Stop trying to force something on these kids. Ugh.

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And no, she shouldn't be able to be in the boy scouts, because IT ISN'T all about her. A big part of being a boy scout is camping trips, etc, which only has men and boys there. It's not appropriate for an 8 year old girl to go off on trips with only men and boys. What the hell is wrong with her parents?          

I never thought of this, good points!

I do believe a child may know at an early age that they identfy as a different gender then they were born as, but give it some time. Wait until they are older.



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Also look at additional factors beyond 'she's a tomboy and he likes barbies'. I've seen a number of abuse cases where a part of it is convincing a girl that she is a son (with punitive abuse for behaving otherwise) or a boy being forced to act like a girl in addition to sexual or emotional abuse. It can cause a child gender confusion and intense fear of their own gender and eventually someone ends up thinking they are trans.

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I've spent my whole life learning how to deal with everything that comes with being female.

And now we have boys playing at being female.

It doesn't matter how long they are on hormones or how far they go with altering their body and appearance, they will NEVER be female.

It is nothing more than a costume.

Doesn't matter if it's a boy pretending to be a girl or a girl pretending to be a boy.

They will NEVER know what it is truly like to be something they are not.

 



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A bunch of PC crap. Get over yourself mom and dad. You already messed up your kids life, so now you're going to highlight it for ever and ever. Good job parenting...not.

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Gender is not a state of mind! It is your physical state. If one identifies as an opposite gender of their birth then that is a different issue, but not a gender one. This f'ing nonsense has got to stop!

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You all are welcome to your beliefs, but just for the sake of honesty, I respectfully disagree with the majority opinion.

I have known intersex and transgendered people. They are people.

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You all are welcome to your beliefs, but just for the sake of honesty, I respectfully disagree with the majority opinion.

I have known intersex and transgendered people. They are people.


 I don't read any of this to say that they aren't people.  However, there may be underlying issues that should be considered before encouraging a small child's attention to transgender behaviour.  I also know a number of transgendered and members of other queer designations and yes, they are all people.  

However, I strongly believe that in many cases 'being' and 'feeling like' are two very different things that are not currently part of the discussion with the exception two polarized perspectives.



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Jeanie wrote:

You all are welcome to your beliefs, but just for the sake of honesty, I respectfully disagree with the majority opinion.

I have known intersex and transgendered people. They are people.


 I don't read any of this to say that they aren't people.  However, there may be underlying issues that should be considered before encouraging a small child's attention to transgender behaviour.  I also know a number of transgendered and members of other queer designations and yes, they are all people.  

However, I strongly believe that in many cases 'being' and 'feeling like' are two very different things that are not currently part of the discussion with the exception two polarized perspectives.


 Exactly, I am very compassionate toward people who are different.  But gender is not a state of mind.  If someone feels they are different than how their gender is, Ok, we can deal with that.  but physical gender is gender and you cannot expect clubs and organizations whose membership revolves around gender to change their stance.



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Gender isn't just a vagina or a penis. It isn't even XY or XX. There is a complex set of horomonal and chemical processes in fetal development that have been studied in recent decades.

I can see from the tone of the board that this is more a case of religious conviction, so there is not point in debating. But just so you know, I probably will not ever agree with your beliefs in this matter.

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No religious bent here, but I can see how you would see that!

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Jeanie wrote:

Gender isn't just a vagina or a penis. It isn't even XY or XX. There is a complex set of horomonal and chemical processes in fetal development that have been studied in recent decades.

I can see from the tone of the board that this is more a case of religious conviction, so there is not point in debating. But just so you know, I probably will not ever agree with your beliefs in this matter.


 Jeanie, I can't speak for everyone here... but I appreciate different opinions.   smile



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Gender isn't just a vagina or a penis. It isn't even XY or XX. There is a complex set of horomonal and chemical processes in fetal development that have been studied in recent decades.

I can see from the tone of the board that this is more a case of religious conviction, so there is not point in debating. But just so you know, I probably will not ever agree with your beliefs in this matter.


 Jeanie, I can't speak for everyone here... but I appreciate different opinions.   smile


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I grew up with a couple of girls who were true tom boys, they wore boys clothing, played sports with the boys and wouldn't play with a doll to save their lives. When they reached puberty they started to change, they started to get interested in boys besides being a playmate and softened their clothing a little bit to be more feminine.

Regardless, a little girl shouldn't go camping with boys and grown men even if she does think she is a boy unless her mother or father goes with them.

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Jeannie, it's ok to have a difference of opinion.

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This is why I do not use sex and gender interchangeably. Sex is biological. With few exceptions (intersex being one), a person is biologically male or female - period. Gender is a sociological construct and exists on a spectrum.

As to feeling one way or another. I'm not feminine. Never have been. I am a tom boy. I prefer the company of males. It's only recently that I've become friends with other women. I do not wear make up, dresses, skirts, heels, hose, or jewelry. I do not get my nails done nor do I wear nail polish. I have zero interest in any of that stuff. My hair is deliberately cut to look messy so I don't have to do anything with/to it. I have short hair - above the shoulders but not a man's cut. However, I do not feel like a man. I do not want to be a man. I do not wonder what it feels like to do things uniquely male nor do I care about such things.

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This is why I do not use sex and gender interchangeably. Sex is biological. With few exceptions (intersex being one), a person is biologically male or female - period. Gender is a sociological construct and exists on a spectrum.

As to feeling one way or another. I'm not feminine. Never have been. I am a tom boy. I prefer the company of males. It's only recently that I've become friends with other women. I do not wear make up, dresses, skirts, heels, hose, or jewelry. I do notmy nails done nor do I wear nail polish. I have zero interest in any of that stuff. My hair is deliberately cut to look messy so I don't have to do anything with/to it. I have short hair - above the shoulders but not a man's cut. However, I do not feel like a man. I do not want to be a man. I do not wonder what it feels like to do things uniquely male nor do I care about such things.


 Thank you, chef.  The word 'biological' is what I forgot in my post.  And I agree with what both you and Lindley are saying.  You both said it much better than I.  I often wonder if the children who are 'trans' are not simply the types of children you both have described who have been assigned a social construct by others.  If social construct does, in fact, overrun biology great.  But we won't know until well after puberty.



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Jeanie wrote:

You all are welcome to your beliefs, but just for the sake of honesty, I respectfully disagree with the majority opinion.

I have known intersex and transgendered people. They are people.


 Of course they are people and should be treated like any other people.  And that means they have to face the reality of what they were born to.  A girl does not belong in groups of men and boys just because she thinks she's a boy.  It's not safe for her, and it's not a good situation for the men and boys. 



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This is why I do not use sex and gender interchangeably. Sex is biological. With few exceptions (intersex being one), a person is biologically male or female - period. Gender is a sociological construct and exists on a spectrum.

As to feeling one way or another. I'm not feminine. Never have been. I am a tom boy. I prefer the company of males. It's only recently that I've become friends with other women. I do not wear make up, dresses, skirts, heels, hose, or jewelry. I do notmy nails done nor do I wear nail polish. I have zero interest in any of that stuff. My hair is deliberately cut to look messy so I don't have to do anything with/to it. I have short hair - above the shoulders but not a man's cut. However, I do not feel like a man. I do not want to be a man. I do not wonder what it feels like to do things uniquely male nor do I care about such things.


 Thank you, chef.  The word 'biological' is what I forgot in my post.  And I agree with what both you and Lindley are saying.  You both said it much better than I.  I often wonder if the children who are 'trans' are not simply the types of children you both have described who have been assigned a social construct by others.  If social construct does, in fact, overrun biology great.  But we won't know until well after puberty.


 I wonder if those who identify as transgender have chromosomal abnormalities such as Klinefelter Syndrome.



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I can see from the tone of the board that this is more a case of religious conviction, so there is not point in debating. But just so you know, I probably will not ever agree with your beliefs in this matter.
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For me it's got nothing to do with my religious beliefs. For me it's got to do with several things that have nothing at all to do with religion. I accept that God loves diversity, and I accept that God creates some us with mismatched sexual organs when those are compared with our mental development. Just like I accept that God creates gay people and straight people, and God creates people with all their fingers and toes, and some with extra fingers or toes or missing fingers and toes, and the list goes on, and on.

For me, this is about the comfort level of the other people, not just the singular trans-person. That one person may not want to be in the men's room, but most, if not all, of the women don't want a person with a penis in the ladies' room. And vice-versa for the men's room

When things are differentiated by gender, there's usually a reason for it. And as long as both genders have an option, there's no harm in that segregation (BOY Scouts and GIRL Scouts for example). If someone wants to create, or if there is already existing, a "Scouting" organization that takes both genders, then let the trans-gendered among us join them. That way, the "girl" with a penis or the "boy" with a vagina can still be acceptable in the group because people with penises and vaginas are both in the troop.

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I think where I struggle is where individuals attempt to subject (that is not the right word) their lifestyle choices on organizations that are based on different lifestyle choices. Boy Scouts is an organization that has always served children with penises (for lack of better description) which has lead to the creation of Girl Scouts, for those with vaginas who want a similar experience. Just because a child who has a vagina wants to participate in organizations specifically designed for children with penises does not mean that the penis-based organization must change their perspective.

That is the difference between the OP and something like a girl wanting to play a sport with the boys. That is based on a particular skill set and if a girl can meet that skill set than she should be able to participate. While professional mainstream sports are male dominated it is because the necessary skill set is generally performed better by men.

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I think where I struggle is where individuals attempt to subject (that is not the right word) their lifestyle choices on organizations that are based on different lifestyle choices.
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perfectly so--it is not for a miniscule group to determine what is normal, what is right, what is acceptable for us all--to FORCE your ways, beliefs, etc. on others is contradictory to how a free people interact

don't struggle with transgendered, intersex, whatever, people at all--at base, they're mentally screwed-up(for what may be a variety of different reasons)--to ENABLE their mental illness is not responsible on my part and incredibly presumptuous on theirs

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Well, I'm not sure about the mentally screwed up part, because they seem perfectly normal to me. Often more emotionally stable than I am! However, if I were to go into a Catholic church I shouldn't pitch a fit because they won't change their doctrine to accept my pro-life stance. I wonder if that would even make the paper ... 'Pro-Life Woman Upset Because Entire Catholic Church Won't Change Hundreds of Years of Doctrine to Accommodate Her Personal Belief System'.

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Believing you are something you are not is delusion.

Altering your physical appearance to reflect what your delusion is telling you is dysmorphic.

Expecting others to go along with your delusion and accept your dysmorphic disorder is narcissistic.

There IS mental illness involved in transgenderism.



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I disagree that it's a mental illness. It's no more different than having a brain that's wired for 2 hands with 4 fingers + 1 thumb each, and being born without hands, fingers, or thumbs.

It has been scientifically proven that "male" brains and "female" brains process differently, and I don't put it past God's abilities to put a "male" brain in a "female" body, nor to put a "female" brain in a "male" body.

However, just because I believe that, doesn't mean that persons with male physical attributes should use the women's locker rooms or bathrooms, or that people with female physical attributes should use the male locker rooms or restrooms. If you have a vagina use the women's rooms. If you have a penis use the men's rooms. If you want to use the opposite room to what you physically have, then have the surgery and change your bits. Until then, use the room that corresponds to your physical equipment.

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I disagree that it's a mental illness. It's no more different than having a brain that's wired for 2 hands with 4 fingers + 1 thumb each, and being born without hands, fingers, or thumbs.

It has been scientifically proven that "male" brains and "female" brains process differently, and I don't put it past God's abilities to put a "male" brain in a "female" body, nor to put a "female" brain in a "male" body.

However, just because I believe that, doesn't mean that persons with male physical attributes should use the women's locker rooms or bathrooms, or that people with female physical attributes should use the male locker rooms or restrooms. If you have a vagina use the women's rooms. If you have a penis use the men's rooms. If you want to use the opposite room to what you physically have, then have the surgery and change your bits. Until then, use the room that corresponds to your physical equipment.


 This analogy doesn't compute.  That would still be a physical reality a person would have to deal with.  If they thought they had those things when they don't exist, that would also be a mental problem.

 



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As do I, especially considering the comment about the tone of the board meaning this was based on religious conviction when no one mentioned religion or God to that point.

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As do I, especially considering the comment about the tone of the board meaning this was based on religious conviction when no one mentioned religion or God to that point.


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As do I, especially considering the comment about the tone of the board meaning this was based on religious conviction when no one mentioned religion or God to that point.


 Oh good, I'm not the only one that was confused by that comment. I thought I was just having a blonde moment.....but I'm not blonde, so just a moment? 



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Right? That was why I tried to clarify my post. Maybe it didn't matter.

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This analogy doesn't compute. That would still be a physical reality a person would have to deal with. If they thought they had those things when they don't exist, that would also be a mental problem.
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And with modern medical science, replacement hands and fingers can be created. That would be how they would deal with the physical reality. Just as having gender reassignment surgery would deal with the reality of a gender mismatched brain.

I do agree that if they thought they had those things it would be a mental problem. But a pre-op transgender doesn't believe he has a vagina or that she has a penis. They know what parts they have, they just don't think like a person of that physical gender. The same as a person without hands might still be able to think like a person with hands, even though he or she can't physically grasp things with their hands. They can envision a future where they might have a prosthetic hand.

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Most of the TG surgery isn't really completed. Yeah, they can get breast implants. But, very few of them actually remove their penises or create a penis. So, they can pretend, pretend, pretend. We keep assuming that the BODY is wrong. When in reality, it is the BRAIN in these folks that is having the actual issue.

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I agree that most don't have the TG surgery, at least not completely. And until they do, personally, I will consider them according to the parts that they have, and expect them to use the appropriate facilities. If they want to be addressed as the gender that their mind is, they need to get the surgery to make their body match.

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So mom and dad would be ok with their kid sharing poop stories and peeing in the woods together? Isnt that kinda what boyscouts is all about? Camping together and doing manly things. (which includes writing your name in the snow)

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