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I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

And so How is Participating in the Trump Inauguration Going to Harm a Celeb's Reputation as the Liberals Say?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

They are being bullies.

Cheerios4606 · Guru

The media, Hollywood and New York, New York are in their own world. Their own bubble. Everyone else is in the REAL world. Funny how things claimed by these three conglomerate loud mouths always winds up being wrong.

WYSIWYG · Guru

I'm thinking that not performing at the inauguration of a President, when they had a chance to, no matter who the new President is, would hurt them more than performing would.

"We refused to perform for Trump" will only get you recognition for a while. 20 years from now, the bands and performers that did perform will be able to say "We performed for Trump"

And that thinking would apply for whomever is being sworn in, for any year.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

It's all well and fine if they choose not to perform - that is their choice. But when they start bullying and badmouthing people who do choose to do so, that's a problem.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lawyerlady wrote:
It's all well and fine if they choose not to perform - that is their choice. But when they start bullying and badmouthing people who do choose to do so, that's a problem.

Choose not to? Hmm, I don't think many of them were even asked. Trump seems to be putting together a more classy show, not Hollywood cheap glitz.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I think the ghetto-esqe White House is over.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

lilyofcourse wrote:
I think the ghetto-esqe White House is over.

What made the White House 'ghetto-esque'? The part where black people lived in it?

It doesn't appear to be decorated with gangsters, drug dealers, boarded up windows and graffiti. That's what I associate ghetto with.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

Lawyerlady wrote:
It's all well and fine if they choose not to perform - that is their choice. But when they start bullying and badmouthing people who do choose to do so, that's a problem.

This inauguration is becoming a bit of a media circus. Jeepers. Perform or don't perform. Just don't turn it into a frickin' form of advertising for your music/art/whatever. The politics is over (well, the voting part, anyways). The inauguration day is a day where the results of the election are finalized. It's not up for debate any more.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Tignanello wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
I think the ghetto-esqe White House is over.

What made the White House 'ghetto-esque'? The part where black people lived in it?
It doesn't appear to be decorated with gangsters, drug dealers, boarded up windows and graffiti. That's what I associate ghetto with.

They are trashy people.

Holding butt boucing celebs up as role models, siding with thugs and claiming "he could have been my son", claiming "for the first time I'm proud of America", releasing 1000s of drug dealers, promoting riots, showing sympathy for criminals but shaming police.

Ghetto-esqe.

They have done more to turn race relations back, divide the country, increase government where it shouldn't be, decrease where it is needed, treated veterans and police like criminals, treated criminals like heros, they are trashy.

Can't get them out soon enough.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

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Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Setting aside the term "ghetto-esque", what exactly is untrue about what Lily said?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

And let me explain.

Trailer trash, ghetto, slums.

They are not about the race of the person.

To me, anyway.

It's more about the behavior.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

Well, if I take ALL the judgemental descriptive language out (ghetto, trashy, butt-bouncing, thugs, adding slums) and turning it into a debatable paragraph based on information a and not slurs, the part I can't find evidence for is 'promoting riots' and 'encouraging race divide'. The only police shaming I am aware of is when the police NEED to be shamed. I'm sure many of you see it differently and will enjoy putting me in my place.

ANYWAYS... My post and the face palm image are in direct response to the use of the derogatory descriptions that Lily continues to use in her posts. Ghettos, trailer parks and slums are PLACES. Not people. Ghettos are as I've described above and slums fit that description as well. Trailer trash is a derogatory description of people who live in trailer parks and behave is ways that some people don't approve of. I'm sorry, Lily, that you find the need to be derogatory regarding other people's station in life. I've lived in slums and trailer parks, but that does not make me trash. I am grateful that I now have a safe, warm and well maintained home in a safe neighbourhood (at least, I'm not aware of anyone shooting up under my porch these days) and I don't feel the need to demean those who don't.

I think it's unfortunate that sometimes slums and ghettos are all people can afford. That's why I lived there. The rent was the only thing I could afford. Imagine how embarassing it was to have to borrow $20 from a coworker because rent took all my pay that month and I was pocketing food at work. Tell me ... Should I have been called trash?

Your point of view, Lily, is not what I'm debating. Call your President whatever you want. (But don't get prissy when others say the same about T). I am just sorry that you feel the need to be derogatory to those who live life differently than you. I will face-palm a slur each and every time.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Honey, a person can live in a mansion, but as rich as Bill Gates, and still be trailer trash or ghetto in their behavior.

Take the Clintons for example.

Trailer trash.

None of my post was untrue.

The ones who can not see that are part of the problem.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

quickly slinking out of this thread

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Ok slinking back in. Lily, Tig is correct about labeling where people live as an indication as to their behavior.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

lilyofcourse wrote:
Honey, a person can live in a mansion, but as rich as Bill Gates, and still be trailer trash or ghetto in their behavior.

Take the Clintons for example.

Trailer trash.

None of my post was untrue.

The ones who can not see that are part of the problem.

Once again. those things are places. And you continue to refer to others as derogatory. What does that do for you? Make you feel better about yourself? Feel like you're important? unconsciously express how you really feel about yourself? What does calling down others really DO for you?

It must do something or you wouldn't need to so adamantly a job of degrading other people. I am sorry that you feel the need it says more about you than anything else

*follows IKWTDS out of thread*

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Tignanello wrote:
Well, if I take ALL the judgemental descriptive language out (ghetto, trashy, butt-bouncing, thugs, adding slums) and turning it into a debatable paragraph based on information a and not slurs, the part I can't find evidence for is 'promoting riots' and 'encouraging race divide'. The only police shaming I am aware of is when the police NEED to be shamed. I'm sure many of you see it differently and will enjoy putting me in my place.

ANYWAYS... My post and the face palm image are in direct response to the use of the derogatory descriptions that Lily continues to use in her posts. Ghettos, trailer parks and slums are PLACES. Not people. Ghettos are as I've described above and slums fit that description as well. Trailer trash is a derogatory description of people who live in trailer parks and behave is ways that some people don't approve of. I'm sorry, Lily, that you find the need to be derogatory regarding other people's station in life. I've lived in slums and trailer parks, but that does not make me trash. I am grateful that I now have a safe, warm and well maintained home in a safe neighbourhood (at least, I'm not aware of anyone shooting up under my porch these days) and I don't feel the need to demean those who don't.

I think it's unfortunate that sometimes slums and ghettos are all people can afford. That's why I lived there. The rent was the only thing I could afford. Imagine how embarassing it was to have to borrow $20 from a coworker because rent took all my pay that month and I was pocketing food at work. Tell me ... Should I have been called trash?

Your point of view, Lily, is not what I'm debating. Call your President whatever you want. (But don't get prissy when others say the same about T). I am just sorry that you feel the need to be derogatory to those who live life differently than you. I will face-palm a slur each and every time.

Ferguson, MO? That was clearly proven to be a case of a police officer responding to a report and thereafter defending himself. And Obama came out publicly in support of the THUG. And regardless of whether you like the language, if the shoe fits, it fits. And the person that was killed by a police officer DOING HIS JOB AND RISKING HIS LIFE was a career criminal and a THUG.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

And the term "trailer trash" describes a set of behaviors - not everyone who lives in a trailer.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

That's why I said 'aware of'. I figured I would miss something.
That someone should enjoy pointing it out.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Tignanello wrote:
That's why I said 'aware of'. I figured I would miss something.
That someone should enjoy pointing it out.

Enjoy pointing out that you absolutely don't know what you are talking about? No, it's sad, actually. In defending him, you ignored that absolute biggest incidence in the news for the past year. Obama also high-jacked a memorial for 5 slain officers who died protecting anti-police protesters from snipers by turning it into a lecture to cops about racism and using it as a platform to promote Black Lives Matter. The officers — Michael Smith, Lorne Ahrens, Michael Krol, Brent Thompson and Patrick Zamarripa — were killed during a Black Lives Matter protest by a black sniper who told police he targeted white officers. And a few days later, actually invited the leaders of Black Lives Matter, a group that promotes violence against the police, to the White House. It was a complete slap in the face to the families of those fallen police officers.

Of course, the biggest thing is when he says nothing at all. He will comment on the death of a black criminal by police before he even has all the facts, but doesn't bother to say a word when multiple police officers are killed in a few days.

You comment shows where the term "low information voter" comes from. People who knee jerk defend without actually knowing the facts.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

And if you feel insulted, too damn bad. Your defense of his him and his behavior towards our law enforcement officers is offensive and horrid.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

They are trashy people.

Add what ever boosting description in front of it you like.

It doesn't change a single fact.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

lilyofcourse wrote:
They are trashy people.

Add what ever boosting description in front of it you like.

It doesn't change a single fact.

They are entitled people who have taken every advantage in life that the US has offered, they took what they didn't need, benefits that people much less fortunate then they should have received. And dismantled the US for the past 8 years, and don't even care, of course our tax dollars will be supporting them the rest of their lives and they will laugh all the way to the bank. They've created an atmosphere of racism that hasn't existed in decades.

burns07 · Guru

of course our tax dollars will be supporting them the rest of their lives and they will laugh all the way to the bank.
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am not really certain of this--in fact, particularly with him, when some of his notes come due he may be in for a rather quick departure

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

burns07 wrote:

of course our tax dollars will be supporting them the rest of their lives and they will laugh all the way to the bank.
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am not really certain of this--in fact, particularly with him, when some of his notes come due he may be in for a rather quick departure

??? I believe she's talking about the over $200K annual pension each former president receives, the $20K pension his wife will receive, plus the lifetime secret service protection for him, his wife and any children under 16.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Plus a budget for staff.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Presidential retirement benefits were non-existent until the enactment of the Former Presidents Act (FPA) in 1958. Since then, presidential retirement benefits have included a lifetime annual pension, staff and office allowances, travel expenses, Secret Service protection and more.

Pension

Former presidents are offered a taxable lifetime pension equal to the annual rate of basic pay for the heads of executive branch departments, like the Cabinet Secretaries. This amount is set annually by Congress and is currently (2016) $205,700 per year. The pension starts the minute the president officially leaves office at noon on Inauguration Day. Widows of former presidents are provided with a $20,000 annual lifetime pension and mailing privileges unless they choose to waive their right to the pension.

In 1974, the Justice Department ruled that presidents who resign from office before their official terms of office expire are entitled to the same lifetime pension and benefits extended to other former presidents.

However, presidents who are removed from office due to impeachment forfeit all benefits.

Transition Expenses

For the first 7 months, beginning one month before the January 20 inauguration, former presidents get transition funding the help them transition back into private life. Granted under the Presidential Transition Act, the funds can be used for office space, staff compensation, communications services, and printing and postage associated with the transition. The amount provided is determined by Congress.

Staff and Office Allowances

Six months after a president leaves office, he or she gets funds for an office staff. During the first 30 months after the leaving office, the former president gets a maximum of $150,000 per year for this purpose. Thereafter, the Former Presidents Act stipulates that the aggregate rates of staff compensation for a former President cannot exceed $96,000 annually. Any additional staff costs must be paid for personally by the former president.

Former presidents are compensated for office space and office supplies at any location in the United States. Funds for former presidents' office space and equipment are authorized annually by Congress as part of the budget for the General Services Administration (GSA).

Travel Expenses

Under a law enacted in 1968, the GSA makes funds available to former presidents and no more than two of his or her staff members for travel and related expenses. To be compensated, the travel must be related to the former president's status as an official representative of the United States government. In other words, travel for pleasure is not compensated. The GSA determines all appropriate costs for travel.

Secret Service Protection

With the enactment of the Former Presidents Protection Act of 2012 (H.R. 6620), on Jan. 10, 2013, former presidents and their spouses receive Secret Service protection for their lifetimes. Under the Act, protection for the spouses of former presidents terminates in the event of remarriage. Children of former presidents receive protection until they reach age 16.

The Former Presidents Protection Act of 2012 reversed a law enacted in 1994 that terminated Secret Service protection for former presidents 10 years after they left office.

Medical Expenses

Former Presidents and their spouses, widows, and minor children are entitled to treatment in military hospitals. Former presidents and their dependents also have the option of enrolling in private health insurance plans at their own expense.

State Funerals

Former presidents are traditionally granted state funerals with military honors. Details of the funeral are based on the wishes of the former president's family.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Yep.

Cheerios4606 · Guru

Ohhh... so Mr. O. will have to use VA hospitals and clinics for his medical care?! :D

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Cheerios4606 wrote:
Ohhh... so Mr. O. will have to use VA hospitals and clinics for his medical care?! :D

Have to? No. But they are able to.

Cheerios4606 · Guru

I say we FORCE Him to. ;)

FNW · Guru

I say we force him to have obamacare.

Cheerios4606 · Guru

ohhhhh even better! Thousands of dollars cost, with thousands of dollars deductible!

FNW · Guru

I am seriously considering going to the inauguration but torn as to whether to drag the boys down there with me. On the one hand, it would be very educational, but on the other, there might be problems...although I think the security will be good and the bikers are coming, too, to protect.

TrudyML · Guru

Tell the bikers hi for me!

FNW · Guru

Will do!

TrudyML · Guru

Go! Take pictures for us!!!!!!!!

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I would love to go but I don't think I would take young kids.

Even in the best circumstances, it's a lot of standing and not really being able to see or hear.

I'll be watching on tv.

Ooooo.... we should do a watch party on the board!

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Find a single biker for me!

FNW · Guru

I'll let you all know what colored coat I'll be wearing so you can watch for me in the masses...I thought I'd do red but my mom thinks there will be a lot of red there....I disagree..

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

There will be a lot of red hats I think, at least in the crowd on the Mall. I would so love to be there!

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

You could put a propeller on one of those red hats.