Dear Carolyn: Any tips for when your spouse reasonably informs you he is afraid you’re spending all your emotional and organization energy on the kids?
My husband just told me this. And it’s true I often feel “touched out” by the end of the day and most of my mental capacity is spent in juggling job/kids/household organization.
The only solutions I can come up with are regular date nights, which we can’t afford but should in the future, and asking him to do more, which usually results in me spending more mental energy in organizing tasks he can/should do. — Too Much of a Mom
Dear Too Much: Really? He can’t see dirty dishes and wash them?
The only solution I can come up with is to have none of this.
If he wants more of a buddy, then you need more of a co-adult. You don’t have to say it with the level of exasperation I just did (and you probably shouldn’t: discuss), but holy crusty rug Cheerios. Your defaulting to the role of family manager and his defaulting to being managed serves neither of you individually nor does it serve your marriage, nor does it help your kids much, since they’re being default-taught the very household roles that are making their parents unhappy.
So while the idea of your husband complaining about how deprived he is under a system where someone else does most of the work for him is a siren’s song from my keyboard to my forehead, I’m going to columnist up and say, you know what, it’s a really good thing he spoke up. Because the way your household (dys)functions now, it needed a whistle blower, and he’ll do.
Tell him he’s right. You are spending all your emotional and organizational energy on the kids. And he’s right that your marriage needs more attention than it’s getting.
Then suggest the best way out of this rut for both of you is to split the family responsibilities more equitably, so you have more energy for him and he has less to spend worrying about what he isn’t getting. OK that last part is a joke. Ish.
Say you’ve been wrong to appoint yourself to the role of chief organizer and nurturer, because you were. “You’re a capable person — I could and should have treated you as one since the beginning.”
Yes? Most of us could use a hard look at roles assumed, assigned, seized in a vacuum and harrumphed through, since those lines can get pretty blurred.
Plus, you’re not just giving him chores, because he’s not an employee. You’re inviting him to join you in replacing unhealthy defaults with a conscious, pragmatic plan for shared ownership of your household, child care, and each other’s well-being. He may well think you’re overdoing some of what you do for the family, and wish you’d punt on "whatever chore" and just go for a walk with him, but fear being eye-rolled if he ever said this out loud.
You both decide how you live, you both decide and do your shares. And you both support this system by not corner-cutting and not martyring yourself on the other’s share the instant it goes undone. Changing a pattern takes time and trust.
And, date nights. Swap babysitting with friends if you must.
You don't need a lot of money for "date night". You can send the kids to grandma's and have date night at home. You can just go out to and have some coffee together or a hike.
As for asking him to do "more', spell it out. Many women want "more" but they don't have an endpoint. Eventually, men just give up because it is never enough. And, you need to make your husband a priority. You make time for your kids now make time for him too.
Mom is working, so that in the "future", she and hubby can
have date nights. She, and he, need the date nights now.
How old are the kids? Old enough to help with some of the
chores? Has he ever helped around the house?
"Honey, I need you to help me by loading the dishwasher.
Here is the way that I've found that works best with our
machine. Plates go this way...."
"Honey, your help with putting the laundry in the washer
would be so appreciated. I've already separated the loads.
Darks go in with this much detergent, the water temp should
be here. While you're doing that, I'll be helping the kids with ..."
Hubby sounds like he needs to be more observant. Also, we
don't know what kind of organization she's looking for. June
Cleaver? Martha Stewart? or Betty Rubble?
From the time my were able to pull stuff out on their own, I had them put stuff back on their own.
It becomes second nature after a while.
The husband wants more adult time with wife, he knows what the problem is, he identified it, but, apparently, hasn't taken the steps to fix the problem.
Wife is not taking advantage of his recognition of the problem, if she were, she would be delegating the work.
Sounds like they both need a recharge.
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Nothing I hate more than having to tell my husband what needs to be done around the house. He lives here and has eyes. Maybe that's the OP's problem - her husband is just another child that has to be told what to do rather than just doing it.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Mom is working, so that in the "future", she and hubby can have date nights. She, and he, need the date nights now.
How old are the kids? Old enough to help with some of the chores? Has he ever helped around the house?
"Honey, I need you to help me by loading the dishwasher. Here is the way that I've found that works best with our machine. Plates go this way...."
"Honey, your help with putting the laundry in the washer would be so appreciated. I've already separated the loads. Darks go in with this much detergent, the water temp should be here. While you're doing that, I'll be helping the kids with ..."
Hubby sounds like he needs to be more observant. Also, we don't know what kind of organization she's looking for. June Cleaver? Martha Stewart? or Betty Rubble?
It's funny (well actually it's not funny if you think about it) but when I was in the mental hospital, there was a lady there who was stuck in a viscous circle of needing help with chores from her family and being too much of a control freak to let them help. It was literally driving her mad. It made me sad because to me it's so not a big deal but to her it was her whole life
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Was it a bad day?
Or was it a bad five minutes that you milked all day?
I remember my exmil saying I wasn't treating her son right.
That I wasn't taking care of him like she did.
I laughed in her face and said I hope not, if he wants a mommy he could go home with her.
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I couldn't deal with that Whiney wussy man. He needs to step up and do more
That was my thought, Mary. I seriously doubt he wants to help her and do chores so she has more free time. He wants HER to do chores FASTER so she can pay attention to HIM.
I couldn't imagine the time and energy it takes for a relationship these days.
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