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Illegal migrants crossing Canada’s borders are hopping off planes in New York and busing directly north, says the head of Canada’s border agents union.

“There is a trend right now,” said Jean-Pierre Fortin, national president of the Customs and Immigration Union. “People are leaving from different countries and flying into New York City and they’re taking a bus.”

The bus lets them off at the northern most part of their route in upstate New York, Fortin said. Then they take a cab right up to the border and walk over.

This contradicts the narrative that illegal migrants entering Canada are fleeing President Donald Trump’s policies. “The Americans are well aware of what’s taking place right now,” says Fortin. “They’re not making it harder for them.”

It also suggests Canada’s lax border policy is encouraging individuals to sidestep this country’s immigration laws.

“Right now the world is watching us,” Fortin said. “People are saying, ‘We didn’t know it was that easy to come across the border.’”

With the images and stories of migrants so easily crossing the border, this country is sending a message to people around the world about just how easy it is to sneak into Canada, he suggests. And Fortin said that’s why he is calling on the government to act.

“I can tell you that my members are calling me on a daily basis and it’s a crisis,” Fortin said on National Post Radio on SiriusXM Canada Wednesday. “The government and senior management are saying this is business as usual – it is not.”

He points out that in Hemmingford, the Quebec border town with a population of less than 1,000 residents, the number of illegal crossings has vastly increased this year. There were 744 crossing throughout all of 2014, but so far in the first two months alone of 2017 that number has already hit 650.

Fortin pointed out that the previous government eliminated over 1,000 border positions. “We’re asking the new government to overturn that decision and rehire these positions,” he says. “We’d also like to see the creation of a border patrol to make sure that between the 117 border crossings in Canada there is some level of surveillance so we can get control of our borders again.”

Border agents also want the government to take a look at the legislation that, in Fortin’s words, “encourages asylum seekers to come in illegally.” Right now, informed migrants know that they’ll be turned back if they present themselves at a formal crossing. But if they make their way over illegally, crossing in between official ports of entry, they can actually file a claim once on Canadian soil.

Manitoba premier Brian Pallister is demanding resources for his province from the federal government, which is facing an migrant influx at the town of Emerson.

On Friday, public safety minister Ralph Goodale met with U.S. Homeland Security secretary John Kelly in Ottawa to discuss the issue.

HEMMINGFORD CROSSINGS

2014: 744

2015: 823

2016: 2,054

2017 (Jan/Feb only): 650



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You don't say? LOL. What - that southern border a problem? Illegal immigrants just entering the country whenever they feel like it?

Good luck with that. Maybe you need a wall.

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Ha! Do they get free healthcare too?

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Perhaps they should retract their offensive statements about Trump.

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This contradicts the narrative that illegal migrants entering Canada are fleeing President Donald Trump’s policies. “The Americans are well aware of what’s taking place right now,” says Fortin. “They’re not making it harder for them.”

Hahahahaha...Sometimes you get what you whine for.

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I thought all were welcome, 40 acres and mule for everyone!

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"The Americans are well aware of what’s taking place right now,” says Fortin. “They’re not making it harder for them.”

Why is America supposed to do something?



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Of course America is supposed to do something, aren't we always supposed to do something? The whole world wants our help and then when we give it we're told all about how the problem is our fault. That we aren't helping enough or helping too much. No wonder so many Americans are ready to start taking care of our own country now. Thank you Donald Trump.

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They are welcome. To most people. They are being treated as refugees. And yes, they get the free health care. Of course, whoever wrote this article is an idiot. People who stand at a border crossing (after getting out of a cab) without - and I've said this before - a valid passport or work visa will not be permitted across. That's stupid and fear-mongering. I think border partrol would be a little more curious about that. Especially as all of our ground entry sites are vehicle based. Some guy jumping out of a cab with nothing on the other side would be subject to a bit more scrutiny than this article implies. Just because it's Canadian doesn't mean it's not the word of a dumbass. And it's election year, so politicians are saying all sorts of dumb crap.

The closest I would get to 'crisis' (and to any of the ridiculous inflammatory information in that article which is designed to rile up Canadians as we approach Provincial elections) is the people sneaking across the border in the center of the country and losing body parts to frostbite. THAT is a crisis, as there is nowhere to put them and (like I've already said) the use of the free medical care.

I also don't know what America is supposed to do about it. That is the part that (and the same dumbasses have been on the news up here) is supposed to rile up Canadians the most (and collect more votes for this dumbass).

The part where we didn't realize it was that easy? The part where people are going to risk life and limb to get into southern Winnipeg during a time when body parts exposed to the elements freeze within 5 minutes. It's true - we don't really patrol that part. We rely on the weather to do that for us. (it generally works, too!)

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So no one can just walk over the border, well, except for where they do.



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And no one pays for that medical care?

The doctors, nurses and such all treattach people out of the goodness of their hearts.

Cause it's free, you know.



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lilyofcourse wrote:

So no one can just walk over the border, well, except for where they do.


 Exactly.  Same like your borders. Except we have built-in weather hazards that are generally deadly and prevent that. Some people are really determined.



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lilyofcourse wrote:

And no one pays for that medical care?

The doctors, nurses and such all treattach people out of the goodness of their hearts.

Cause it's free, you know.


 This is stupid and you know it.



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Tignanello wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

So no one can just walk over the border, well, except for where they do.


 Exactly.  Same like your borders. Except we have built-in weather hazards that are generally deadly and prevent that. Some people are really determined.


 You don't recognize the oxymoron in your statement. 



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Tignanello wrote:
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And no one pays for that medical care?

The doctors, nurses and such all treattach people out of the goodness of their hearts.

Cause it's free, you know.


 This is stupid and you know it.


 How? 

You said free medical care.

Is it free or not? 

Free means it is donated, no one pays to cover the cost.

 



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lilyofcourse wrote:
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lilyofcourse wrote:

So no one can just walk over the border, well, except for where they do.


 Exactly.  Same like your borders. Except we have built-in weather hazards that are generally deadly and prevent that. Some people are really determined.


 You don't recognize the oxymoron in your statement. 


 Oxymorons don't negate things.



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lilyofcourse wrote:
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And no one pays for that medical care?

The doctors, nurses and such all treattach people out of the goodness of their hearts.

Cause it's free, you know.


 This is stupid and you know it.


 How? 

You said free medical care.

Is it free or not? 

Free means it is donated, no one pays to cover the cost.

 


 So when I get a free coupon, nobody who works to fulfill it's obligations gets paid?  The food offered buy 2 get 1 free means that the 1 was donated and nobody has to cook it?  Like I said.  Stupid.

You are also totally versed in how socialist healthcare works.  So both the first post and your response are stupid.  Play dumb all you want.



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Coupons are not free. They are provided by the company as an incentive to buy their product. Comparing it to the whole country paying for illegals to get free medical is what's stupid.

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Coupons are not free. They are provided by the company as an incentive to buy their product. Comparing it to the whole country paying for illegals to get free medical is what's stupid.


 I agree with that.  Paying for illegals to get free health care is stupid.  That is what I said above.  Not challenging that in the least.  What is stupid is the breakdown of 'well, everyone must be volunteering their time' junk from Lily who knows perfectly well that 'free healthcare' is freely used as a title for it.  Same like Obamacare wasn't the actual name of it, because Obama wasn't the one doing the caring.

Intentional obtuse behavior is stupid.  Not the illegals sneaking over and taking advantage of it.



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You said it was free. She said it wasn't. What part of that is wrong? She was pointing out that it is not free and was being facetious about them volunteering their time.

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Tignanello wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
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lilyofcourse wrote:

And no one pays for that medical care?

The doctors, nurses and such all treattach people out of the goodness of their hearts.

Cause it's free, you know.


 This is stupid and you know it.


 How? 

You said free medical care.

Is it free or not? 

Free means it is donated, no one pays to cover the cost.

 


 So when I get a free coupon, nobody who works to fulfill it's obligations gets paid?  The food offered buy 2 get 1 free means that the 1 was donated and nobody has to cook it?  Like I said.  Stupid.

You are also totally versed in how socialist healthcare works.  So both the first post and your response are stupid.  Play dumb all you want.


 The point Lily is making is that it is not free.  Someone is paying for it.  Socialist healthcare is paid for by the taxpayers.  



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canada doesn't have the resources or the economy to sustain a huge influx of free-loading illegals/immigrants--of course, contrary to the all the lib's blather, neither do we

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Not really sure what the argument is. It's an article about how easy it is to walk into Canada if you're determined enough?
Universal healthcare or Medicaid.... it may be free to the patient but we all
Know it's not truly free. We're good with that I think?😀

 

That said do any of these frost bite gatebusters read into the climate  prior to trying it ever? Why do they think it's called the great white north!



-- Edited by Mary Zombie on Thursday 16th of March 2017 12:51:41 PM

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Tignanello wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

And no one pays for that medical care?

The doctors, nurses and such all treattach people out of the goodness of their hearts.

Cause it's free, you know.


 This is stupid and you know it.


 

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-- Edited by flan327 on Thursday 16th of March 2017 01:58:33 PM

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Nice little poke at lily flan! So glad you add to the conversation...

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Mary Zombie wrote:

Not really sure what the argument is. It's an article about how easy it is to walk into Canada if you're determined enough?
Universal healthcare or Medicaid.... it may be free to the patient but we all
Know it's not truly free. We're good with that I think?😀

 

That said do any of these frost bite gatebusters read into the climate  prior to trying it ever? Why do they think it's called the great white north!



-- Edited by Mary Zombie on Thursday 16th of March 2017 12:51:41 PM


 Right?  The weather in that area often = -30C (-22F) but with windchill it is down as far as -40C (which is also -40F).  Someone on the news said the other day that it would be less of a problem when the weather warmed up.  I'm thinking 'the frostbite'? or the 'exodus'?  I can't imagine the exodus.  Except perhaps easier to control when there is visibility.  When there is a blizzard happening you wouldn't be able to see your hand in front of your face.



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So come summer, Canada may have a real problem.

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So come summer, Canada may have a real problem.


 Yup.  Very true.



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