TOTALLY GEEKED!

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Autistic boy arrested for kicking teacher.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

What the hell.

OK - this crap is getting ridiculous. He's 10. He's autistic. If schools are going to mainstream special needs students, then make sure teachers and administrators learn how to deal with them.

And police should not be called except for extreme circumstances, even with non- special needs students. Schools need to learn how to properly discipline again.

FNW · Guru

They waited a year to arrest him? That in itself is wrong. Isn't there a SOL for this sort of thing?

As wrong as this all seems, if this were to occur to my boys, the last thing that would come to my mind was to get it on film. I would be spending my energy making sure my son understood that he was going to be okay and that I was getting him help so he could return home, not standing there with my cell phone up. Not that having the incident recorded was a bad idea (on the contrary), it's just not something I would think of to do in such a situation.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Makes me wonder if there is more to the story. The whole thing seems off. Arresting someone a year later? I don't get it.
But, part of the problem is that schools cannot really discipline anymore. They can't spank anyone. In my day, i recall the Principal literally slamming a kid against the wall. Not advocating that, but we all towed the line. However, now that we have to make schools take a completely hands off approach, the Police are now getting involved in things that Police would have never gotten involved in before. It's idiotic.

Momala · Great cook-happy wife-superb fisherman

How did the mother know to be there to get
it on film? And has the boy been in school,
with this same teacher, since November?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Not sure she has a right to be filming the other kids in the school who may have been there. Not sure I would be happy about that if my kid was a bystander.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

But, yeah, everyone can sue, sue, sue the School. Why not. But, if you want to destroy your educational opportunities for the other kids and make some point and devastate the community, then by all means sue. And, the Police are the ones who decided to arrest, that is really the school's prerogative. If they issue a warrant to arrest him , there is nothing the school can do about it. In reality, the teacher has probably been assaulted over and over and felt that was the only recourse. Of course that fault then lies with Admin for not offering proper ways to deal with this child and protect the teacher.

FNW · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Not sure she has a right to be filming the other kids in the school who may have been there. Not sure I would be happy about that if my kid was a bystander.

Me either....and I think there's some big pieces of the story missing.

Mary Zombie · Guru

I'm a bit torn. I mean are the teachers supposed that minuet let the kids assault them?
Definitely a cluster....

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Mary Zombie wrote:
I'm a bit torn. I mean are the teachers supposed that minuet let the kids assault them?
Definitely a cluster....

Teachers of special needs students need to be better equipped to handle things like this. And no, they shouldn't get kicked - but getting kicked should not become a criminal matter for a 10 year old autistic child.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Ok. I'm going to say it, as a mom with an autistic child, I feel it gives me a different angle looking at these things.

Autism comes in so many varying degrees, it really is not possible to meet all the needs, all the time.

There are melt downs, acting out, and unrelated behavior.

BUT there are simple things that can be taught, even to the most severe.

A lot of the behaviors of autistic children is repetitive habit, and they can learn to control themselves.

Hitting, kicking, biting. A parent, and teachers, can teach them not to ever do those things.

Jesse was beginning to express some hitting at one point, but he learned that he had to control that.

It wasn't easy, it was really hard for a while, and I had to be super vigilant.

I firmly believe a lot of the "symptoms" of autism can be stopped.

I mean, you dont allow crab grass to grow hoping it learns to stay out of the flower bed.

I had to fight to get the special needs teachers to stop just letting Jesse do whatever he did.

As for the OP, a year later for the arrest is weird.

But why didn't mom bail him out?

What has been going on for the year?

It says he has behavioral issues, what does that means?

What has been done to control or stop the issues?

Something is fishy with the story, but what's mom, and dad if he is around, been doing to teach their son how to function in the world?

-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Thursday 20th of April 2017 10:31:04 AM

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

And the fact that kicking a teacher is a felony?

flan

FNW · Guru

Yeah, that sounds awfully harsh to me, too.

Mary Zombie · Guru

I'm also wondering why he wasn't arrested when it happened? Seems that would have been a good cause and effect teaching moment. But a year after the fact? That's pointless.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
And the fact that kicking a teacher is a felony?

flan

And the fact we don't hold disabled people to the same standard as other people, and especially children?

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

My friend is a domestic violence counsellor. People think that means that she works with kids who have behavioural issues at home. This morning a call came in with a referral because a little boy (6 yrs) was calling his teachers 'mean' and called the principal 'mean' and didn't do what he was told. Yes, the child was in the midst of violence between his parents when an infant and has a trauma response but a referral because he called a teacher 'mean'?

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

Tignanello wrote:
My friend is a domestic violence counsellor. People think that means that she works with kids who have behavioural issues at home. This morning a call came in with a referral because a little boy (6 yrs) was calling his teachers 'mean' and called the principal 'mean' and didn't do what he was told. Yes, the child was in the midst of violence between his parents when an infant and has a trauma response but a referral because he called a teacher 'mean'?

Perfect example of teachers not wanting to work with non-perfect students.

Yup, snowflake (the teacher) effect. evileye

Children are no longer allowed to be children.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Tignanello wrote:
My friend is a domestic violence counsellor. People think that means that she works with kids who have behavioural issues at home. This morning a call came in with a referral because a little boy (6 yrs) was calling his teachers 'mean' and called the principal 'mean' and didn't do what he was told. Yes, the child was in the midst of violence between his parents when an infant and has a trauma response but a referral because he called a teacher 'mean'?

That is just damn stupid.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

We are really leaning towards people having to be perfect or get beat down. We expect Stepford children, perfectly politically correct people all the time. It's just dumb.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

Lawyerlady wrote:
We are really leaning towards people having to be perfect or get beat down. We expect Stepford children, perfectly politically correct people all the time. It's just dumb.

Total control at all times. One world concept.

People are nuts if they think kids are suppose to be perfect.

Gosh, these nuts jobs are so out of control anymore.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I've worked with children for 36 years. I never expected ANY child to be "perfect." Neither did the preschool teachers I encountered.

I'm not saying some adults don't have that opinion, but I feel they are in the minority.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
I've worked with children for 36 years. I never expected ANY child to be "perfect." Neither did the preschool teachers I encountered.

I'm not saying some adults don't have that opinion, but I feel they are in the minority.

flan

This is not about YOU.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I've worked with children for 36 years. I never expected ANY child to be "perfect." Neither did the preschool teachers I encountered.

I'm not saying some adults don't have that opinion, but I feel they are in the minority.

flan
This is not about YOU.

I am commenting based on my experience. It's what we all do.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I've worked with children for 36 years. I never expected ANY child to be "perfect." Neither did the preschool teachers I encountered.

I'm not saying some adults don't have that opinion, but I feel they are in the minority.

flan
This is not about YOU.
I am commenting based on my experience. It's what we all do.
flan

No. You imply that because you don't personally feel something or haven't personally experienced it, it cannot possibly be true.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I've worked with children for 36 years. I never expected ANY child to be "perfect." Neither did the preschool teachers I encountered.

I'm not saying some adults don't have that opinion, but I feel they are in the minority.

flan
This is not about YOU.
I am commenting based on my experience. It's what we all do.
flan

No. You imply that because you don't personally feel something or haven't personally experienced it, it cannot possibly be true.

That is not my intention.

flan

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Mom films autistic 10-year-old’s arrest at school. Then he spent the night in jail.