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Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Girl banned from prom for skipping too much of the school day.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

OK - prom is awesome, but school is school. You don't skip school to get your hair done. Geesh. And it sounds like she missed MOST of the day, when school policy requires her to be there at least half the day. The other kids probably waited until half the day was over. If we check out before 11, it's a whole day absence, after 11 it is not. And I don't believe for a second she didn't have the opportunity to know this rule.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

LL I somewhat agree with you, but I am so tired o the schools taking the joy out of the Prom.

Fort Worth Mom · Mod/Penguin lover/Princess!

Pay attention to the rules!

I feel bad that she wasn't allowed to attend the prom.

But gosh...showing that much cleavage? And a slit so far up the front, that she had to cover it with her purse, to cover it for the picture?

What is wrong with parents these days, that they would allow a 16 year old to leave the house, dressed that way? confuse

Never mind, that she skipped half a day at school.

(I'm shocked, that anyone would let their 16 year old daughter, out of the house...showing so much skin.)

JMHO. (I'm old fashioned. Sixteen, is too young, for that look.)

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

DD's high school had the same rule - you had to attend school and complete 4th period. So after 4th period, there was a huge exodus of girls leaving school to get their hair and makeup done. I think they should hold prom on Saturdays to avoid this issue, but it's more expensive to rent the venue on a Saturday.

It's difficult to get a hair appointment in a time frame that will accommodate the time you have to be at pictures, grand march, etc if you don't book MONTHS in advance.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Wanted to clarify that I think the OP was justly excluded. She knew the rules - I bet it's in the handbook. DD knew her handbook so well that students wanted her to "represent" them at discilplinary committees. But as a proctor she was a "judge".

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Prom is a school activity, and school activities require school attendance. It just isn't rocket science.

Vette · Owl drink to that!

That sucks I feel bad for her but, rules are rules

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

I remember having to be at graduation practice at 7 am the morning after Prom. it sucked and such an over reach of power by the school. I showed up, hung over( drinking age was 18) It was soo stupid.

WYSIWYG · Guru

Sucks for her, but as was mentioned, it was probably spelled out pretty clearly in the Student Handbook, what requirements there are for attending a school activity.

Ignorance of the rules is no excuse (just in case she didn't know, because she was too ignorant to read the rules), nor a reasonable reason for requesting an exemption.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I'll second FWM:

Her mother spent $1000, yet she looks tacky.

Maybe it's a good thing I had boys!

flan

FNW · Guru

She definitely is dressing a little too risque for her age. If she were 18, I'd think she looked great. But 16? She's inviting trouble.

Why don't they hold proms on Saturdays, so the girls can get their hair/makeup done? Personally, I did not go to my prom. But if I had, I would have done my own hair and makeup. But that's how it was done in the 70's/80's. My BFF, who has since gone on to become a makeup artist, did my makeup for senior pictures.

jlbear71 · Guru

The Best Prom in America (not me calling it that - Readers Digest, TMZ, Seventeen magazine and several others) is on a Saturday night and is held at the high school. It is local to me. Pennsbury High School. Students do the decorations, it is themed and the public can walk thru until 3:00. There is a parade and usually a celebrity who dj's or band that plays.

Best of all, the kids have fun doing it all.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

There is a lot of crazy over the Prom. It's pretty much a lost day at school. And going bananas over hem lines and off the shoulder dresses, etc is a bit much. She said she called the school the day before and informed them. Yes, there are "rules" but there is the spirit of the law and the letter of the law. If she called the day before and they were notified then I don't see what the big deal is.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

I wonder if this is a case of 'but it's meeeee! They won't mind if IIIII do it!'

That said. Leave prom alone. For pete's sake.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Prom is fun when everyone follows the rules.

This girl thought the rules did not apply to her.

I do not feel a bit sorry for the girl or her mom, they now have learned that actions have consequences.

I do feel bad for her date, because she ruined his fun.

I hope he went back and went to prom.

As for her dress, it's really difficult to find a prom dress that is age appropriate now.

And the same dress will look different on everyone.

Mary Zombie · Guru

Back in the day we did our own hair and makeup. I wear my puffy hot rolled hair as a badge of honor!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Prom is fun when everyone follows the rules.

This girl thought the rules did not apply to her.

I do not feel a bit sorry for the girl or her mom, they now have learned that actions have consequences.

I do feel bad for her date, because she ruined his fun.

I hope he went back and went to prom.

As for her dress, it's really difficult to find a prom dress that is age appropriate now.
And the same dress will look different on everyone.

Kudos to this young man. He actually skipped his own prom for her. That is a very gentlemanly and chivalrous thing to do in the age of me, me, me. And, maybe he should move on from her.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

That cut isn't really that high, in the picture with her sitting, it doesn't look any higher than a regular dress hem girls would wear.

The cleavage may be a bit much, but I don't think it is inappropriate for the event.

I don't know, maybe it's all the dresses I watched girls try on when trying to find Caitlyn's prom dress.

We gave them levels,

Middle school sweetheart

High school prom

Bridesmaid

Dancing with the Stars

Street walker

To me, this is between a high school prom and bridesmaid.

Ohfour · Hooker

I have never heard of prom on a school day. That just totally foreign to me. Even the homecoming dance is on a Saturday.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Our homecoming dance was immediately following the game.

Prom always on Saturday.

But, that was when schools used their own gym or commons.

Now, everyone wants a venue.

And you can't all get Saturday because of other events.

Divine Geek · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
I have never heard of prom on a school day. That just totally foreign to me. Even the homecoming dance is on a Saturday.

Same here. Both are always on Saturday.

Ohfour · Hooker

lilyofcourse wrote:
Our homecoming dance was immediately following the game.

Prom always on Saturday.

But, that was when schools used their own gym or commons.

Now, everyone wants a venue.

And you can't all get Saturday because of other events.

Games here arent often over until after 10:00. By the time the football players and cheerleaders got showers and got dressed, it would be 11:00 before they even got to the dance. That's ridiculous.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Gawd I dread DD's Prom, well not the Prom but the drama.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Actually depending on the custom of the day, I may start something where the kids prior to the Prom have a catered dinner at my house, do pics, give them a ride to the Prom and back and maybe drive them to the beach, rent them a cottage.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Ohfour wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Our homecoming dance was immediately following the game.

Prom always on Saturday.

But, that was when schools used their own gym or commons.

Now, everyone wants a venue.

And you can't all get Saturday because of other events.
Games here arent often over until after 10:00. By the time the football players and cheerleaders got showers and got dressed, it would be 11:00 before they even got to the dance. That's ridiculous.

That's what we did.

I'd come in from the field, change from my uniform into my dress, redo my makeup and hair cause usually it was all sweated off.

Our games ended about 9ish, dance lasted till 12.

We got maybe an hour and a half.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Actually depending on the custom of the day, I may start something where the kids prior to the Prom have a catered dinner at my house, do pics, give them a ride to the Prom and back and maybe drive them to the beach, rent them a cottage.

I went to prom twice.

Both times, my friends and I stayed for a little while, but we had more fun at party going on downtown.

And the traditional super late, almost morning, Waffle House breakfast was always the best meal ever because we were starving by then.

All this to say, breakfast around 4 am will be the most appreciated.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

Prom on a Saturday in the school gym. No football team, no cheerleaders = no homecoming. Problem solved! :D

Ohfour · Hooker

Lol, Tig!!!!!!!!!

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

We tried to have a rugby team at some point, but there weren't enough girls or guys to make up a team. They tried to make it a co-ed team, but then they realized that not only did nobody want to play anymore but that there weren't any other co-ed teams to play against. Dumbasses.

jlbear71 · Guru

Sophmore year (1987), I went to the Junior prom. and Soph Hop (very prom like)

Junior year (1988), I went to the Junior and Senior Prom.

Senior Year (1989), I went to Senior Prom and was invited to someone else's Senior Prom but it was same night as mine.

All proms were on a Friday night and held at larger venues. There were about 750 kids in my graduating class so probably around 1000-1100 at proms.

There was a theme but vague. Ususally based around a specific song and color theme.

After prom, many people headed out to the Jersey Shore or a hotel room for after parties.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
There is a lot of crazy over the Prom. It's pretty much a lost day at school. And going bananas over hem lines and off the shoulder dresses, etc is a bit much. She said she called the school the day before and informed them. Yes, there are "rules" but there is the spirit of the law and the letter of the law. If she called the day before and they were notified then I don't see what the big deal is.

The other girls managed to stay at school long enough not to get banned. They said they told her as she was checking out. Who gets told "If you leave now, you can't attend prom tonight" and still does it?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

It never hurts to get a lesson that you cant always do exactly what you want to do.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
There is a lot of crazy over the Prom. It's pretty much a lost day at school. And going bananas over hem lines and off the shoulder dresses, etc is a bit much. She said she called the school the day before and informed them. Yes, there are "rules" but there is the spirit of the law and the letter of the law. If she called the day before and they were notified then I don't see what the big deal is.
The other girls managed to stay at school long enough not to get banned. They sSaid they told her as she was checking out. Who gets told "If you leave now, you can't attend prom tonight" and still does it?

So she was told and still did it. Dumb.

Cheerios4606 · Guru

Someone got extreme joy out of working hard at making sure she did not get to attend her prom. I loathe these kinds of people.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Cheerios4606 wrote:
Someone got extreme joy out of working hard at making sure she did not get to attend her prom. I loathe these kinds of people.

Probably the person who told her multiple times not to do it, and she did it anyway, not believing the rules would actually apply to her. Why would you hate a school employee for enforcing school rules? Should they just let the kids do whatever the hell they want? How is that fair to the kids that actually stayed in school long enough to be counted present for the day?

Cheerios4606 · Guru

I am not saying she should have gotten away with it. I am saying there are certain people that live by the rule book and get very very happy when they get to exert power over someone else by pointing out the rule book to them.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Cheerios4606 wrote:
I am not saying she should have gotten away with it. I am saying there are certain people that live by the rule book and get very very happy when they get to exert power over someone else by pointing out the rule book to them.

So, she shouldn't have gotten away with it, but the person that enforced the rule is a jerk?

Cheerios4606 · Guru

Yeah. They are a jerk in my book. They are a jerk in my book cuz you KNOW they got a lot of enjoyment out of taking something wonderful away from someone.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Cheerios4606 wrote:
Yeah. They are a jerk in my book. They are a jerk in my book cuz you KNOW they got a lot of enjoyment out of taking something wonderful away from someone.

That is a very cynical way of looking at it. And I don't agree. I don't agree b/c based on the statement, they went out of their way to make sure this girl and everyone else knew the rules, giving her every chance to do the right thing. And everyone else complied. I don't think they enjoyed having to enforce this rule but you can't just ignore the rules so as not to ruin her night or you'll have everyone ignoring them.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
Cheerios4606 wrote:
Yeah. They are a jerk in my book. They are a jerk in my book cuz you KNOW they got a lot of enjoyment out of taking something wonderful away from someone.
That is a very cynical way of looking at it. And I don't agree. I don't agree b/c based on the statement, they went out of their way to make sure this girl and everyone else knew the rules, giving her every chance to do the right thing. And everyone else complied. I don't think they enjoyed having to enforce this rule but you can't just ignore the rules so as not to ruin her night or you'll have everyone ignoring them.

WHY have a rule if you are not going to enforce it?

flan

FNW · Guru

You mean like the travel bans? Or the immigration/deportation laws?

I agree that if they have a rule it should be enforced. Sadly, there are a lot of rules that aren't enforced. There seems to be a new thing today...for instance, we have a new Deputy Director who commented, "if we have a rule, and no one is following it, then it's not a rule anymore." WTF? Personally, I feel if you aren't going to enforce it, then repeal it. It's too confusing to know which rules are enforced and which aren't.

Ohfour · Hooker

FNW wrote:
You mean like the travel bans? Or the immigration/deportation laws?

I agree that if they have a rule it should be enforced. Sadly, there are a lot of rules that aren't enforced. There seems to be a new thing today...for instance, we have a new Deputy Director who commented, "if we have a rule, and no one is following it, then it's not a rule anymore." WTF? Personally, I feel if you aren't going to enforce it, then repeal it. It's too confusing to know which rules are enforced and which aren't.

I was JUST about to say that!!!!!!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I agree. However, the "zero tolerance" type policies have led to absolute silliness. Punishing kids because they turned a poptart into the shape of a gun, etc. There needs to be commonsense in the law and in rules. And, there is so much drama surrounding the prom, then being overly punitive only just adds to the silliness of it. However, the school has to maintain order because the reality of human beings is that when you give an inch, then they want a mile. So, if should be made VERY CLEAR, that if you do X, you WILL NOT go to Prom. Period. And, as long as that is made very clear then fine. However, being on the School Board, i find that this is not always the case. And, that punishments are meted out for trivial things at times and then larger things are sometimes brushed off.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

This is not the same as zero tolerance.

This is a clear cut if you do that, this will happen.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yes. I know. The zero tolerance thing is the example of the poptart.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I do not think a rule that says you have to attend so much of a school day to take part in school activities on that day is unreasonable, whether it be sports, clubs or dances. School is about SCHOOL. Prom is a privilege, not a right.

Ohfour · Hooker

Lawyerlady wrote:
I do not think a rule that says you have to attend so much of a school day to take part in school activities on that day is unreasonable, whether it be sports, clubs or dances. School is about SCHOOL. Prom is a privilege, not a right.

I was never one for extra curricular activities, but at my kids' schools, from K-12, if you were not at school that day, you could not participate in ECAs.

Divine Geek · Guru

I'll admit it. When someone blatantly breaks the rules and flaunts that they don't have to play by them AND then gets the punishment, I take joy in that. I fully believe in karma and enjoy getting to see it served.

Flame away.

Cheerios4606 · Guru

When someone has your name, and they are waiting for you at the prom door so they can tell you you dont get to participate... yeah. THOSE people get my stinkeye.

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