The latest Muslim terrorist attack ripped apart little girls at a concert in Manchester, England, on Monday, killing 22. The death and body-part count is still rising.
This is not a game. When young British girls are the targets of a suicide bombing, can we take a short break from the posturing, political correctness and Russia conspiracy theorizing? Won’t the hatred of Trump keep for a few weeks?
Channel-surfing on Monday night was like watching broadcasts from different countries. While Fox News and CNN covered the terrorist attack, MSNBC concentrated on the real news of the night — TRUMP’S COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA — as children screamed in the background in footage from Manchester.
It was a big enough step for MSNBC to stop claiming that the “explosion” was just popping balloons. The hosts reasoned, We know that Islam is a religion of peace, so what else could it be?
CBS and NBC News finally produced the name of the suicide bomber — the next day. (After any terrorist attack, the media like to keep us in suspense for as long as possible about whether it was a Muslim or a Christian.)
Even then, the answer was difficult to find on either network’s Twitter feeds, which were bristling with minute-by-minute updates on former CIA Director John Brennan’s congressional testimony about Russia and Trump: Yes, collusion was investigated. No, Brennan is not aware of any evidence to support the theory. BREAKING NEWS!
The media didn’t gaudily broadcast the bomber’s name, religion or ethnicity in their headlines, but at least they finally coughed up the information. He was Salman Abedi, son of Libyan “refugees.”
Apparently, the media think you can’t be trusted with that information. You might notice that the West is deliberately importing people who enjoy killing kids.
According to ABC News, the bomber’s father, Ramadan Abedi (not to be confused with Huma Abedin) was a member of an al-Qaida-linked Islamic group in Libya. For this, he was accepted as a “refugee” by the British government.
Liberals’ main reaction to the attack was not to demand the toppling of the terrorist-friendly British government, but to worry about an upsurge in Islamophobia. They say there’s nothing we can do about terrorism and we probably shouldn’t do anything anyway, because we deserve it.
These were teen and preteen girls! Is there any fuel left in the gas tank of humanity, or are we just running on fumes now?
While liberals are impatient to get back to their murderous immigration policies, conservatives are pining for war. And really, who wouldn’t want to send ground troops to Syria after our tremendous successes in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Why do we need to fight ISIS in Syria again? I forget. How about we NOT send U.S. troops to some godforsaken nation of primitives?
My reasoning is: It will cost us trillions of dollars; we will sacrifice the lives of an untold number of our best young men in combat (and little girls — thanks, liberals!); and we will accomplish absolutely nothing, apart from creating a new stream of “refugees” and making the primitives even angrier with us, if that’s possible.
Historically, starting wars in the Third World has not proved salutary.
Trump was elected for one reason: Because he promised to put Americans’ interests first. If only he’d stuck to his campaign promises, he’d be a hero right now.
The one promise Trump has kept is the so-called “Muslim ban” — and he’s looking prophetic on that. The Ninth Circuit was probably just about to release its opinion affirming a Hawaii judge’s revocation of Trump’s travel ban, but after Manchester, they’ll have to sit on it for a few weeks.
Wouldn’t you rather be defending Trump for imposing a travel ban, building a wall and deporting “Dreamers,” than for idiotic leaks about nothing? If Trump started removing undesirable foreigners, liberals would rush back to the airports, en masse, and forget all about Russia.
The most humane response to terrorist attacks in the West is to kill a bunch of them for revenge, and then concentrate on our own problems. Instead of sending ground troops to Syria, we should be sending them to San Diego.
Our policy following every Islamic terrorist attack anyplace in the West should be the following:
1) We drop a nuke on some majority-Muslim city involved in terrorism.
2) We add six months to the immigration moratorium (which Trump promised us in his Aug. 16, 2015, immigration policy paper, the greatest political document since the Magna Carta).
3) We deport one Ninth Circuit judge.
Since Trump, politics has become a game to liberals. The media is a game. Hollywood is a game. Islamic terrorists are killing little girls in England. This isn’t a game.
So, what happens when a white, Christian male blows up another govermnent building? Or they shoot up a school or movie theater or church? Do we drop a bomb on a large Christian city?
Equating these extremists with a whole religion is wrong. It is like saying the KKK or Westoboro Baptist is representative of all Christians.
This article is racial baiting and bigotry at its finest.
Huh? Isis is a WORLD wide terror organization. They aren't lone wolf whackos. This is a system, organized militia. Not at all the same thing. But, yeah, dig in. Lots of dead kids. Clean up the blood and human pieces and everyone can resume living life as before with nothing done and no lessons learned.
I agree that ISIS is a major problem. But not every Muslim is a terrorist. I wish people would stop lumping them all into the same catagory. Have some respect for the many who are not extremists.
Let's compare it to Nazi Germany. Should Germany have been nuked since Nazi's murdered thousand of Jews? Should all Germans and people of German descent be condemned for the actions of some?
But, the reality is that the only thing that will temper this is a strong arm approach. Otherwise, then i guess you just want to accept that this is now the way it is. That is the choice before us.
I understand no one wants to kill innocent people.
But sometimes, the bad guys leave no other choice.
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Sorry. We are going to have offend some people. Or, we can just accept that our children will be slaughtered in our own streets. And, we don't seem to even have the WILL to fight and defend children anymore.
I never said not to try and fight and stop the extremists. I want them gone. I hurt too when these events happen.
But I have friends and family who are Muslim both in America and overseas. I don't want to see them hurt either. They are peaceful and kind and have children too.
How is it fair to judge an entire religion on the actions of a few? Where is this outrage against an entire group when it happens at home with racists like Dylan Bear who was part of White Extremist/NeoNazi groups? Why was there no major outrage against groups like that? Where is the outrage at what is happening in Syria where people are killing their own other than don't let the refugees come here? Tell me how that slaughter is different.
What part of GLOBAL network of terror is eluding you on this? That isn't the same thing as some whack job who got a gun. This bomb that went off in Manchester was highly sophisticated. Not a "lone wolf" whack job but part of a jihadist family and network. And, sorry in war, innocent people are killed. And part of the modus operandi of some of these terrorist nations is to hide their wares in their own schools and hospitals. They have no qualms about blowing up their OWN kids let alone yours.
And what part of killing off an ENTIRE religion or region do you not understand is wrong?
This is a subject that, while we agree that a group of people need to be eliminated, we don't agree on what that exact group is. Look at what happened with Japan. We did eventually nuke them. But it was one particular country. Not a group that is Global and not tied to one region. Where else do you suggest gets nuked since they are GLOBAL, as you state?
Every muslim jihadist terrorist IS a muslim. Yeah. So, sorry. Our responsibility is to our citizens. Not whomever has decided they want to come here.
Seems here you lumped them all into one catagory.
Yes, my hackles get riled when it is generalized that muslims are killers and terrorists. Extremist exist in all religions.
ANd what about that Global part you mentioned. When they are coming from many nations including America. People are being recruited from everywhere so how does one decide on where to destroy many innocent lives as well as the guilty? We had a local here, born here, family been here since Civil war, who was recruited, part of a cell of Americans and was building bombs to set off, here in Philadelphia.
And I asked you about who else gets nuked since it is global?
I don't know the answer. I wish I did. People have been asking for World Peace for a long, long time. But destroying a region that cannot even be defined is wrong. As you said, it is GLOBAL. Which means they are everywhere. Australia, Britian, US.
Do you have any solutions that would not result in the additional mass loss of innocent lives?
No, i don't. Some innocent lives are going to be lost either way. You can either allow them to march on and continue killing our children. OR you can turn and fight and yes we are going to kill some of their innocents. Sorry, they choose to put their own at risk.
I understand that some innocent lives will be lost. But let's try to keep it to a minimum. But "drop a nuke on some majority-Muslim city involved in terrorism" will result in more than a minimum of innocent lives lost. Let alone any retaliation that may occur.
Hamtramck, Michigan
Cairo, Egypt
Karachi, Pakistan
Dhaka, Bangladesh
Istanbul, Turkey
Tehran, Iran
Jakarta, Indonesia
Afganistan
Algeria
Sudan
Saudi Arabia (you know, the one that 45 make a large weapons deal with a few days ago)
Malaysia
Nigeria
And in Europe, the % are hig in these cities.
Brussels, Belgium - 25.5%
Manchester, UK - 15.8%
Malmo, Sweden - 20%
Paris, France - 15%
Roubaix, France - 20%
Muslims make up a majority of the population in 49 countries around the world. So, where do we start? How do we wage this war that is so Global that there are no boundries? Carefully. And with help from where ever it can be found. And, hopefully, with minimal innocent lives lost.
There is a great deal of options between blowing everyone up and doing nothing.
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it's pretty simple really--if you're a rancher and you've been losing your cattle to coyotes, you kill the coyotes--you seek out their dens, where they live and breed and you kill them, all of them until they either leave on their own or there are no longer enough of them to threaten your cattle--this is not much different from the current situation with ISIS
you can do all the soul-searching, hand wringing nonsense and it will accomplish nothing, zero--and what is it that we wish to accomplish? again, simple--to live this life in peace and safety(especially the innocents)--the highest goal of any warrior is peace and that(usually)means the destruction of your(or our)enemies--there is no other way--the terrorists will not stop on their own and their power/violent acts/reach will only grow and spread if the rest of us do nothing--very much like those of our countrymen in living memory, we must answer those two prophetic questions: " if not now, when? and if not us, then who? "--our turn has arrived and we can either stand and be counted(and, yes, maybe die)or we can wring our hands and deny the reality of the threat(to all of us), or perhaps even run and hide(and surely die)--it is up to each one of us
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We can fight back AND innocent people will die. However they brought the war onto our innocents. And, by doing so, endangered some of their innocents. And, they often purposefully where the innocents are because they know that western civilization takes that into consideration when they do not.
I agree that ISIS is a major problem. But not every Muslim is a terrorist. I wish people would stop lumping them all into the same catagory. Have some respect for the many who are not extremists.
Let's compare it to Nazi Germany. Should Germany have been nuked since Nazi's murdered thousand of Jews? Should all Germans and people of German descent be condemned for the actions of some?
But 15 million of them are. And we are not talking about killing all Muslims - we are talking about putting safety first. There is no reason to bring MORE Muslims refugees into this country if it's going to allow in terrorists with them. Our safety - the safety of our children - is more important than bleeding heart liberal ideology towards the "religion of peace".
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
So, what happens when a white, Christian male blows up another govermnent building? Or they shoot up a school or movie theater or church? Do we drop a bomb on a large Christian city?
Equating these extremists with a whole religion is wrong. It is like saying the KKK or Westoboro Baptist is representative of all Christians.
This article is racial baiting and bigotry at its finest.
Those people did not commit those crimes as a duty of their religion. Don't twist the actions of psychopaths by blaming it on Christianity when that wasn't their reason or purpose. They were not jihadists.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
In my opinion, we need to control our borders. Every country has a border. We have natural borders on the east and west coast. So, where illegals can enter, we need to deal with that. We dont' have some obligation to flood our country with illegals. It is patently unfair to LEGAL immigrants. And, nobody has suggested ending LEGAL immigration though at this point we should certainly ban or reduce it from hostile nations.
We need to build the wall. Not only to stop illegals but to stop the flow of drugs that is epidemic destroying our young people.
And I will trust that the Generals can use intelligence to determine where these ISIS training facilities are and where these monsters lurk. And, then we need to go and destroy them. The MOAB was a good start.
I am trying to remember, correct me if I am wrong.
Any time there has been a terrorist attack in America, hasn't the terrorist been killed within the same day?
It seems when something happens on American soil, there is an almost rabid mentality to get the demon spawn.
Doesn't seem that way as much in other countries.
Not saying they don't want it to stop, but that they tend to take the ability to defend themselves away.
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Well, most of them doing this fully expect to die. Either by their own suicide or in a shootout with the police. So, this type of terrorist who doesn't fear death makes it all that much harder to stop them.
Well, they did a hurry up job on Oklahoma City. They never talk about it or even acknowledge it. There was far more to that than some stupid idiot with a truck. Just my opinion.
Here are the ACTUAL numbers according to Pew Research regarding the teeny tiny small amount of Muslims that are radical: 1.6 billion muslims on the planet from 49 countries. Of that number, the global total of radicalized muslims = 680,030,000 Million. This number only counts the numbers of the majority sized countries, not the smaller countries where known muslims live. This is not a small minority... this is a majority. ~ Indonesia = 205 million muslims, 143 million support sharia law. 70% of them blame 9/11 on someone other than muslims. ~ Egypt = 80 million muslims, 55.2 million support sharia law. 70% have positive or mixed feelings about Osama Bin Laden. ~ Pakistan = 179 million muslims, 135.4 million support sharia law. ~ Bangladesh = 149 million muslims, 121.9 million support sharia law. 1/4 of them are ok with suicide bombings or targeting of civilians and 2/3rds of them support honor killings. ~ Nigeria = 75.7 million muslims, 53.7 million support sharia law. ~ Iran = 74.8 million muslims, 62.1 million support sharia law. ~ Turkey = 74.7 million muslims, 23.9 million support sharia law. ~ Morocco = 32.4 million muslims, 24.6 million support sharia law. ~ Iraq = 31.1 million muslims, 24.3 million support sharia law. ~ Afghanistan = 24 million muslims, 24 million support sharia law. ~ Jordan = 6.4 million muslims, 3.8 million support sharia law. ~ Palestinian Areas = 4.3 million muslims, 3.83 million support sharia law. ~ France = 4.7 million muslims, 1.6 million support sharia law. ~ Great Britain = 6.8 million muslims, 2.2 million support sharia law. ~ United States = 2.6 million muslims, 500 thousand support sharia law.
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-- Edited by Cheerios4606 on Friday 26th of May 2017 02:14:05 PM
