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Boy Scouts of America to allow girls in some programs beginning next year as part of historic change

  • Embracing a historic change, the Boy Scouts of America announced Wednesday plans to admit girls into the Cub Scouts starting next year
  • Boy Scouts will also establish a new program for older girls using the same curriculum as the boys
  • Under the plan, Cub Scout dens - the smallest unit - will be single-gender, either all-boys or all-girls 
  • The larger Cub Scout packs will have the option to remain single gender or welcome both genders 
  • The Girl Scouts of the USA criticized the initiative, suggesting the BSA’s move was driven partly by financial problems and a need to boost revenue

By Associated Press

PUBLISHED: 13:09 EDT, 11 October 2017 | UPDATED: 15:40 EDT, 11 October 2017

 

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Embracing a historic change, the Boy Scouts of America announced Wednesday plans to admit girls into the Cub Scouts starting next year and to establish a new program for older girls using the same curriculum as the Boy Scouts.

Under the plan, Cub Scout dens - the smallest unit - will be single-gender, either all-boys or all-girls. 

The larger Cub Scout packs will have the option to remain single gender or welcome both genders. 

The program for older girls is expected to start in 2019 and will enable girls to earn the coveted rank of Eagle Scout.

The Boy Scouts board of directors, which approved the plan unanimously in a meeting at BSA headquarters in Texas, said the change was needed to provide more options for parents.

'We believe it is critical to evolve how our programs meet the needs of families interested in positive and lifelong experiences for their children,' said Michael Surbaugh, the BSA’s chief scout executive.

Embracing a historic change, the Boy Scouts of America announced Wednesday plans to admit girls into the Cub Scouts starting next year and to establish a new program for older girls using the same curriculum as the Boy Scouts. Boy Scouts and Cub Scouts are seen above in this May 2017 file photo in Linden, Michigan
 
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Embracing a historic change, the Boy Scouts of America announced Wednesday plans to admit girls into the Cub Scouts starting next year and to establish a new program for older girls using the same curriculum as the Boy Scouts. Boy Scouts and Cub Scouts are seen above in this May 2017 file photo in Linden, Michigan

'The values of Scouting - trustworthy, loyal, helpful, kind, brave and reverent, for example - are important for both young men and women,' Surbaugh added.

The announcement follows many months of outreach by the BSA, which distributed videos and held meetings with the Boy Scout community to discuss the possibility of expanding girls’ participation beyond existing programs, such as Venturing and Sea Scouts.

The Girl Scouts of the USA criticized the initiative, saying it strained the century-old bond between the two organizations. 

Girl Scout officials have suggested the BSA’s move was driven partly by financial problems and a need to boost revenue.

In August, the president of the Girl Scouts accused the Boy Scouts of seeking to covertly recruit girls into their programs while disparaging the Girl Scouts’ operations.

'I formally request that your organization stay focused on serving the 90 percent of American boys not currently participating in Boy Scouts ... and not consider expanding to recruit girls,' wrote GSUSA President Kathy Hopinkah Hannan in a letter to the BSA’s president, AT&T Chairman Randall Stephenson.

The Girl Scouts, founded in 1912, and the BSA, founded in 1910, are among several major youth organizations in the US experiencing sharp drops in membership in recent years. 

Reasons include competition from youth sports leagues, a perception by some families that they are old-fashioned and busy schedules that prompt some parents to despair of meeting all their children’s obligations. 

For some families, scouting programs that welcome both boys and girls could be a welcome convenience.

As of March, GSUSA reported 1,566,671 youth members and 749,008 adult members, down from just over 2 million youth members and about 800,000 adult members in 2014. 

The Boy Scouts say current youth participation is about 2.35 million, down from 2.6 million in 2013 and more than 4 million in peak years of the past.   



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4970966/In-historic-change-Boy-Scouts-let-girls-programs.html#ixzz4vI3TSlNb 
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So is it now going to be called Birl's Scouts or Goy's Scouts?

I don't see why they couldn't just enable girls to earn Eagle's Badges and whatever else boys get and kept them separate.

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I know both organizations membership has been on the decline. But quite frankly they need to dial back the amount of fundraising they do and cut the salaries of the upper council members.

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So is it now going to be called Birl's Scouts or Goy's Scouts?

I don't see why they couldn't just enable girls to earn Eagle's Badges and whatever else boys get and kept them separate.

 Girl scouts have the gold award that has much tougher requirements than eagle scout.



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I think it's a good way for kids to get out and commune with nature if they don't have parents who believe in family time. Personally, I was a "brownie" for a year. I found that I did more with my family than I did at their outings. The only event that sticks out in my mind was trash pick up at Puddingstone Lake. *shivers*.

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My daughter hated being in brownies so much so, that she cried every brownie day. The leaders were horrible and they did absolutely nothing. I did let her quit.

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Personally I didnt enjoy it. My troop was boring. So, ended up quitting. I am sure there are some very good troops. Then with DD, they started getting into a lot of liberal social issues so I took her out of it. I am not playing party to that!

For Boy Scouts, it was OK. We did the Pinewood Derby which was completely ridiculous because the kids did not fashion the cars but most of the dads took them to machine shops, etc. The object was to wood carve it yourself. Anyway, after my sons lost the first 2 years, i went and did the same thing. Took it to a wood shop, impregnated it with weights, etc so we won 2 years in a row, lol. Fight fire with fire.


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I started in brownies and was a Girl Scout until I entered high school. The only reason I left was because there was no troop for me to join. There were only 2 of us left at that age group and no leader. I was "independent" for a while, but it wasn't any fun because there were no meetings or activities. I could participate in state and national stuff, but information was always hard to come by.

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My FIL was a leader and Eagle Scout and was big into it, as was his father. MIL's father was into scouting as well. That's actually how DH's parents met, through scouting. DH is an Eagle Scout but sometimes I swear he only got it because of nepotism. Either that or they really don't learn much, or he has become a city boy over the years and forgotten everything. But I really don't know much about scouting so I'm not sure what you need to learn/do to earn your Eagle badge.

I remember my SIL telling me they all hated camping trips because FIL insisted on roughing it. I mean really roughing it. Starting a fire without matches, cooking over the open fire. He did allow tents and sleeping bags and flashlights but that was their only modern comfort. Their dad was happy as a clam, but MIL and the kids were always finding ways to cut the trip short.

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My father was a scout leader for years, used to March the troop up and down our street all the time.
I was a cub scout leader for DS. And I won the adult pine Derby 😁

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I did girl scouts for 2 years with DD13 and I was the leader. There is supposed to be 2 leaders - the first year they couldn't find me a co-leader so I did it myself, and the 2nd year, my co-leader quit right before cookie delivery time.

There really give very little support to leaders. The leader meetings are all about the fund-raising and that's about it. I felt it was more about the money than anything and I was over it. And then, girl scouts started getting political, and they did that trip to NY for the older girls and had the planned parenthood speaker and inappropriate hand-outs, etc. I'm not comfortable with their ties to planned parenthood and their political statements. It's not the girl scouts I grew up with.

Jojo really wants to do girls scouts and I won't let her.

Oh - and just FYI, I went all the way up to senior girl scout when I was a girl.



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Why couldn't they keep politics out of something that is suppose to be fun😡

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IMHO, all the trans crap and PP connections have ruined both groups permanently.

DD pulled her dd two years ago from the girl scouts. To much fighting between the leaders and the demand to SELL cookies. Plus the political crap.

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I don't have a problem with combining certain things. A lot of the stuff is the same basic stuff.

But I think some things should be done separately. Like camping and that kind of thing.

But I do think the leaders should be thoroughly checked out, and I think a leader should never be alone with a kid.

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I did GS. Didn't finish the first year. I hated it.



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I never did anything like that, my parents were too lazy and/or poor.

I did go to one meeting with a friend once and did some origami activity, that was fun.

I think girls and boys should be separate for this, I can't help but wonder how the boys themselves feel about it.

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There is already a Girl Scouts organization, which makes this doubly stupid.

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I think at least for the girl scouts it is hard to find a good leader who is not only interested in selling cookies and crafts but also outdoor activities such as camping etc.. at least from my sister's experience in girl scouts, which was why my mother would never let me join or my daughters. They hated it. A coworkers daughter was in a group and the leaders were fantastic and they stayed together as a group till high school.

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I loved the Girl Scouts. The camping trips were awesome!

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Why couldn't they keep politics out of something that is suppose to be fun😡

 Because girl scouts is supposed to be about empowering girls and teaching them to be leaders, and dontcha know, if they can't have all the random sex they want and abortion on demand, they are just being abused by a patriarchal society?????  evileyeevileyeevileye



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What will those do Girl Scouts? Isn't that a separate organization? Not sure how many girls are gonna say 'Oh i wanna be a Boy Scout". My daughter was like, this is stupid! lol

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