Daylight savings time is an antiquated policy that is no longer relevant. Energy savings are minuscule, if any, as you are only shifting the hour of darkness and more energy is used for cooling in the summer because of the longer day. History has shown that DST increases the risk of heart attacks, fatigue, and car accidents in the days immediately after is occurs in the spring. Not all states and U.S. territories take part in DST, and it creates a lack a stability in our time zones for too many months.
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LawyerLady
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Well, share the petition to make the world a better place! You can still sign the petition as an American to support the rest of us that don't live in Arizona!
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LawyerLady
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I've never really understood the hatred toward changing time. Sure, it can be annoying for a day or two, but it isn't the end of the world.
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Getting a real kick out of this. The US wants to end Daylight Saving and people in Japan have finally decided that they want to start Daylight Saving. Not approved yet, but raises its head every year. Since the whole country is in one time zone (another strange thing) parts of it have bright sunshine at 0415 during the summer, "wasting" all that good daylight time with sleep.
But it will probably never come to pass because, as IKWD says, it makes a lot of issues for work, commute, etc.
I've never really understood the hatred toward changing time. Sure, it can be annoying for a day or two, but it isn't the end of the world.
It is no longer relevant and makes issues for those of that work, commute. You may not get that Lily, but it is a huge burden.
I've done the commute to and from work. It wasn't an issue.
Why is it more of an issue?
6am during DST has the same people the 6am fall commute has.
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Put me in the it's not a big deal crowd. It's an hour for crimeny's sake. If someone gets a heart attack out of that then they probably had other issues to begin with.
I've never even heard of the heart attack associated with DST debacle until this thread.
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Or was it a bad five minutes that you milked all day?
I've never really understood the hatred toward changing time. Sure, it can be annoying for a day or two, but it isn't the end of the world.
It is no longer relevant and makes issues for those of that work, commute. You may not get that Lily, but it is a huge burden.
I've done the commute to and from work. It wasn't an issue.
Why is it more of an issue?
6am during DST has the same people the 6am fall commute has.
It has to do with the angle of the sun as it is coming up. When the clocks are set back I am driving east as the sun is rising during my commute. Very dangerous since it is blinding.
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Put me in the it's not a big deal crowd. It's an hour for crimeny's sake. If someone gets a heart attack out of that then they probably had other issues to begin with.
I've never even heard of the heart attack associated with DST debacle until this thread.
If it's not a big deal, it's not necessary.
It's a stupid, unnecessary, antiquated burden. Steady sleep cycles are important to health, and we adjust them TWICE every year for no reason. And people DIE.
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LawyerLady
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I realize some people think an increase of 30 deaths on average the Monday every year after DST is nothing, but I bet it is everything to those families. We change policies all the time to prevent even one death.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Put me in the it's not a big deal crowd. It's an hour for crimeny's sake. If someone gets a heart attack out of that then they probably had other issues to begin with.
I've never even heard of the heart attack associated with DST debacle until this thread.
That's very surprising considering the studies have been around for years. This article was published 3 years ago regarding a study done over 4 years -
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Switching over to daylight saving time, and losing one hour of sleep, raised the risk of having a heart attack the following Monday by 25 percent, compared to other Mondays during the year, according to a new U.S. study released on Saturday.
By contrast, heart attack risk fell 21 percent later in the year, on the Tuesday after the clock was returned to standard time, and people got an extra hour’s sleep.
The not-so-subtle impact of moving the clock forward and backward was seen in a comparison of hospital admissions from a database of non-federal Michigan hospitals. It examined admissions before the start of daylight saving time and the Monday immediately after, for four consecutive years.
In general, heart attacks historically occur most often on Monday mornings, maybe due to the stress of starting a new work week and inherent changes in our sleep-wake cycle, said Dr. Amneet Sandhu, a cardiology fellow at the University of Colorado in Denver who led the study.
“With daylight saving time, all of this is compounded by one less hour of sleep,” said Sandhu, who presented his findings at the annual scientific sessions of the American College of Cardiology in Washington.
A link between lack of sleep and heart attacks has been seen in previous studies. But Sandhu said experts still don’t have a clear understanding of why people are so sensitive to sleep-wake cycles.
“Our study suggests that sudden, even small changes in sleep could have detrimental effects,” he said.
Sandhu examined about 42,000 hospital admissions in Michigan, and found that an average of 32 patients had heart attacks on any given Monday. But on the Monday immediately after springing the clock forward, there were an average of eight additional heart attacks, he said.
The overall number of heart attacks for the full week after daylight saving time didn’t change, just the number on that first Monday. The number then dropped off the other days of the week.
People who are already vulnerable to heart disease may be at greater risk right after sudden time changes, said Sandhu, who added that hospital staffing should perhaps be increased on the Monday after clocks are set forward.
“If we can identify days when there may be surges in heart attacks, we can be ready to better care for our patients,” he said.
The clock typically moves ahead in the spring, so that evenings have more daylight and mornings have less, and returns to standard time in the fall. Daylight saving time was widely adopted during World War I to save energy, but some critics have questioned whether it really does so and whether it is still needed.
Researchers cited limitations to the study, noting it was restricted to one state and heart attacks that required artery-opening procedures, such as stents. The study therefore excluded patients who died prior to hospital admission or intervention.
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LawyerLady
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And a newer study also shows an 25% increase in strokes the first 2 days after DST in the spring, too.
You’d be hard pressed to find anyone who enjoys daylight savings time, the twice-yearly tradition of setting our clocks either one hour forward or backward. However, according to a preliminary study that will be presented later this year at the annual meeting of the American Academy of Neurology (AAN), it seems there are certain people who should be especially wary of daylight savings — those who are at risk of developing ischemic stroke, caused by clots that blocks blood flow to the brain.
Studying a decade’s worth of hospital admissions (2004 to 2013) in the country of Finland, the researchers found an 8 percent higher incidence of ischemic stroke in the first two days following daylight savings when compared to the two week period before and after a time transition. The temporary boost in risk appeared to be especially high for cancer patients and those over the age of 65, at 25 percent and 20 percent, respectively.
"Previous studies have shown that disruptions in a person's circadian rhythm, also called an internal body clock, increase the risk of ischemic stroke, so we wanted to find out if daylight saving time was putting people at risk," said study author Dr. Jori Ruuskanen of the University of Turku in Turku, Finland, in a statement.
Specifically, Ruuskanen and his colleagues looked at 3,033 hospitalizations during the week of a time transition, and 11,801 hospitalizations in the weeks before and after. Despite the elevated risk in the first two days, though, they failed to find any significant differences in hospital mortality following the week after transition.
It’s not the first time daylight savings has been painted as an unintentional villain by scientists. A 2013 study found that the leap ahead in March led to a 24 percent increase in heart attacks the following Monday. However, the study also found a 21 percent reduction when the clock was pushed back an hour, almost canceling out the effect.
In either case, it appears the danger of daylight savings isn’t so much about directly causing stroke or heart attack but rather in speeding along or momentarily delaying one already likely to occur. Having that knowledge in hand may still prove to be invaluable, of course, since it may enable medical professionals to better anticipate a small surge in cases following a transition as well as allow at-risk patients to take some simple steps beforehand to recalibrate their body clock, such as waking up earlier prior to the time change.
Interesting as the study is, though, the authors admit it isn’t the final word on the subject. "Further studies must now be done to better understand the relationship between these transitions and stroke risk and to find out if there are ways to reduce that risk," Ruuskanen said.
For those wondering, by the way, our clocks will have to be set a hour ahead on Sunday, March 13.
Source: Daylight Saving Time Transitions, Incidence and In-Hospital Mortality of Ischemic Stroke. AAN 68th Annual Meeting. 2016.
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LawyerLady
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From 1945 to 1966 U.S. federal law did not address DST. States and cities were free to observe DST or not, and most places that did observe DST did so from the last Sunday in April to the last Sunday in September. In the mid-1950s many areas in the northeastern United States began extending DST to the last Sunday in October. The lack of standardization led to a patchwork where some areas observed DST while adjacent areas did not, and it was not unheard of to have to reset a clock several times during a short trip (e.g., bus drivers operating on West Virginia Route 2 between Moundsville, West Virginia, and Steubenville, Ohio had to reset their watches seven times over 35 miles).
In summer 1960 April–October Daylight Time was nearly universal in Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware and states east and north of there. In Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, Kentucky and Virginia and states north and east of there, some areas had it and some did not. Except for California and Nevada, which had April-Sept Daylight Time, 99% of the rest of the country used Standard Time year-round. (The Official Guide says "State law prohibits the observance of "Daylight Saving" time in Kentucky but Anchorage, Louisville and Shelbyville will advance their clocks one hour from Central Standard time for the period April 24 to October 29, inclusive.")
Starting March 11, 2007, DST was extended another four to five weeks, from the second Sunday of March to the first Sunday of November. The change was introduced by Representatives Fred Upton (R-MI) and Edward Markey (D-MA) and added to the Energy Policy Act of 2005; the House had originally approved a motion that would have extended DST even farther from the first Sunday in March to the last Sunday in November, but Senators Jeff Bingaman (D-NM) and Pete Domenici (R-NM) agreed to scale back the proposal in conference committee due to complaints from farmers and the airline industry. Proponents claimed that the extension would save "the equivalent of" 10,000 barrels (1,600 m3) of oil per day, but this figure was based on U.S. Department of Energy information from the 1970s, the accuracy and relevance of which the DoE no longer stands by. Later studies by the U.S. Department of Energy and the California Energy Commission have predicted much smaller energy benefits. There is very little recent research on what the actual positive effects, if any, might be.
I would vote for it to go back to the way it was when I was a kid in the mid 60s . . . Spring Ahead late April and Fall Back late September. I like DST. As for the heart attacks, it's not the time change that's causing it; it's the lack of sleep, which studies have shown over and over that proper sleeping habits is essential to good health.
-- Edited by Forever Sunshine on Monday 6th of November 2017 07:58:02 AM
I would vote for it to go back to the way it was when I was a kid in the mid 60s . . . Spring Ahead late April and Fall Back late September. I like DST. As for the heart attacks, it's not the time change that's causing it; it's the lack of sleep, which studies have shown over and over that proper sleeping habits is essential to good health.
-- Edited by Forever Sunshine on Monday 6th of November 2017 07:58:02 AM
And people lose sleep when an hour is stolen.
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LawyerLady
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It's never really bothered me either. I mean the one in the spring is harder to adjust too, but it only takes a day or two.
Personally, the last few weeks have been awful for getting up and getting ready in the morning, since it didn't start getting light out until after 7am. It was really nice seeing the sun this morning.
But I also don't like it getting dark so early either, so I guess I'll be happy either way, lol.
Karl.
