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Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

Interesting new cell phone policy

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Magnetic pouches for cell phones? Is that smart?

I can totally understand, and back, a zero cell phone policy.

But, the teachers, and administration should have the same policy.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

That isn't a new thing. There are other schools that started doing so over past couple of years.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

No, it isnt new, but it's not always enforced.

One of the high school teachers would number the seats, use those over the door shoe holders and numbered them. Assigned seats, and the kids were required to put their cell phones in the pocket that corosponded with the seat number. That's how she did attendance.

If your phone wasn't in the pocket, you were counted absent.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

lilyofcourse wrote:
No, it isnt new, but it's not always enforced.

One of the high school teachers would number the seats, use those over the door shoe holders and numbered them. Assigned seats, and the kids were required to put their cell phones in the pocket that corosponded with the seat number. That's how she did attendance.

If your phone wasn't in the pocket, you were counted absent.

I know that story. But she couldn't mark a student absent if no cell phone. That would mean she assumes all kids have one, can a afford one, etc.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

Or didn't leave it at home, or wasn't confiscated by their parents for something.

I also think that the staff should be subject to the same thing.

Vette · Owl drink to that!

I don't necessarily think the staff should be subject to the same thing. Since when do adults have to always follow the same rules as children? Maybe they need to contact other staff members, etc.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I do think teachers should be subject to the no phone policy.

Every single room has a phone and intercom system.

And if I were a kid being made to lock up my phone, and my teacher was on theirs in class, I'd be pissed.

There are tons of rules both adults and kids follow every day.

Vette · Owl drink to that!

Um , we are not allowed to use our phones at work but our leads are. I don't throw a fit about it. You know what more kids these days need to learn? That life is not fair. Also, that not every little thing is going to be explained to them.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

No. You won't make a fuss. Of course you wouldn't.

But I would.

In a classroom.

A teacher should be teaching, engaging with the students, not playing games and texting.

That's my opinion.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

lilyofcourse wrote:
No. You won't make a fuss. Of course you wouldn't.

But I would.

In a classroom.

A teacher should be teaching, engaging with the students, not playing games and texting.

That's my opinion.

Highly doubt teachers are doing the bolded. They are adults and their jobs are on the line if they do so. Kids need to be taught that.

Vette · Owl drink to that!

lilyofcourse wrote:
No. You won't make a fuss. Of course you wouldn't.

But I would.

In a classroom.

A teacher should be teaching, engaging with the students, not playing games and texting.

That's my opinion.

Of course I wouldn't? What exactly does that mean?

And yes, who says they are playing games and texting?

Lindley · Guru

My friend who is a Teacher, told me that she had to make her students place their phones in a box on her desk, she got tired of the constant texts they receive from parents. At least a woman who worked for us was texting her kids through out the day.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Parents are the worst.

You know, we didn't have phones in school.

We survived.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

lilyofcourse wrote:
Parents are the worst.

You know, we didn't have phones in school.

We survived.

THis should start with "Back in my day....."

Lindley · Guru

Tignanello wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Parents are the worst.

You know, we didn't have phones in school.

We survived.
THis should start with "Back in my day....."

Lol! I find myself saying that

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
I do think teachers should be subject to the no phone policy.

Every single room has a phone and intercom system.

And if I were a kid being made to lock up my phone, and my teacher was on theirs in class, I'd be pissed.

There are tons of rules both adults and kids follow every day.

Sorry, but that is just not a reasonable thing to expect. Teachers are grown ass adults at a JOB. They are not students. And teachers also get to have other things kids don't in class. Like coffee. And some of them have guns. Oh, and teachers get a grown up bathroom.

Because ADULTS who have that job have earned the respect of being a certified educator, and unless it becomes a problem - they are not subject to the same rules as 12 year olds.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

And how, exactly, does a cell phone help in educating in a classroom?

No. No one NEEDS a phone in class.

I don't care how grown they are.

Domestic Engineer · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:

And how, exactly, does a cell phone help in educating in a classroom?

No. No one NEEDS a phone in class.

I don't care how grown they are.

1) If there is an emergency, the teacher can call for assistance immediately without having to page the office, wait for the office to answer and then wait for assistance.

2) The teacher is able to research something without leaving the classroom.

3) PowerPoint presentations are created and presented from the phone.

4) With a printer in the classroom, the teacher can print material directly from a phone.

5)Teachers are able to discuss a situation without the fear of student overhearing. (It’s helpful when the homeroom teacher is able to let the other teachers know if the students parents are going thru a divorce/death/jail or some other situatio)

6) Class attendance is recorded and a master report generated for absences, including how many consecutive absences.

7) Using an app, grades are entered into the master database.

8) Since some parents think that there little Johnny is a perfect angel and that the teacher is lying about his behavior, a video is worth a thousand words.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Domestic Engineer wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
And how, exactly, does a cell phone help in educating in a classroom?

No. No one NEEDS a phone in class.

I don't care how grown they are.

1) If there is an emergency, the teacher can call for assistance immediately without having to page the office, wait for the office to answer and then wait for assistance.
2) The teacher is able to research something without leaving the classroom.
3) PowerPoint presentations are created and presented from the phone.
4) With a printer in the classroom, the teacher can print material directly from a phone.
5)Teachers are able to discuss a situation without the fear of student overhearing. (It’s helpful when the homeroom teacher is able to let the other teachers know if the students parents are going thru a divorce/death/jail or some other situatio)
6) Class attendance is recorded and a master report generated for absences, including how many consecutive absences.
7) Using an app, grades are entered into the master database.
8) Since some parents think that there little Johnny is a perfect angel and that the teacher is lying about his behavior, a video is worth a thousand words.

And every one of those things can be done with the computer or phone that is in the room.

I just don't know how any one of us got through life before cell phones.

Domestic Engineer · Guru

It’s obvious that you have never been a teacher in a classroom.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

No. I havent.

I still don't see how a phone is necessary when they all have laptops or computers, and every room has a phone.

FNW · Guru

I think we, and by "we" I mean parents, teachers, adults, etc., teach children by example. If we don't want them becoming addicted to their phones, then we need to put ours down in their presence. Now there are situations where they are quite useful, and children can and should see that as well. But for a teacher to sit there and text and talk on it during class, unless an emergency, that's setting a bad example, IMO, and even a child can see the hypocrisy.

I guess I don't see the urgency in teachers texting each other information about a child's situation when it could be discussed at break in the teacher's lounge.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

The classroom is also the teacher's office. And quite frankly, a text from your kid or spouse is a lot less intrusive than the class phone ringing.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

Everyone survived before phones. But now we have higher technology that makes things easier. Limiting to the class phone or whatever (my classrooms never had phones. We got paged to the office) is like saying 'how in the world did anyone survive before cars!' or 'back in my day ... we had two feet to get us everywhere and we were lucky if we had socks!'.

Thank goodness technology has improved our abilities.

Lindley · Guru

Technology is great when it doesn’t effect or responsibilities to our jobs, families and friends. It’s quite telling that people who put out the iPads and iPhones don’t let their kids use them and pediatricians are recommending no use or to limit their time.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

Lindley wrote:
Technology is great when it doesn’t effect or responsibilities to our jobs, families and friends. It’s quite telling that people who put out the iPads and iPhones don’t let their kids use them and pediatricians are recommending no use or to limit their time.

This.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Funny, took DD to the final freshman orientation where she met all her teachers and the other students in her classes. New policy this year for cell phones. Each kid puts their phone in their assigned pocket on the door. They can use their phones at lunch but not in the classroom. Good policy.

ETA: most schools are doing same thing this year.

-- Edited by I know what to do_sometimes on Tuesday 27th of August 2019 09:06:49 PM

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Funny, took DD to the final freshman orientation where she met all her teachers and the other students in her classes. New policy this year for cell phones. Each kid puts their phone in their assigned pocket on the door. They can use their phones at lunch but not in the classroom. Good policy.

ETA: most schools are doing same thing this year.

-- Edited by I know what to do_sometimes on Tuesday 27th of August 2019 09:06:49 PM

That's what I was talking about.

But.

Tell her to turn it off, first.

My conspiracy theory brain is very suspicious.

Lindley · Guru

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Funny, took DD to the final freshman orientation where she met all her teachers and the other students in her classes. New policy this year for cell phones. Each kid puts their phone in their assigned pocket on the door. They can use their phones at lunch but not in the classroom. Good policy.

ETA: most schools are doing same thing this year.

-- Edited by I know what to do_sometimes on Tuesday 27th of August 2019 09:06:49 PM

that is a good policy

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I really don't think kids should be using cell phones in school. HOWEVER, that means the schools need to stop relying on technology only resources. DD's assignments are online, and if there are not computers or tablets for every student in every room, they use their phones.

Schools need textbooks again.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lawyerlady wrote:
I really don't think kids should be using cell phones in school. HOWEVER, that means the schools need to stop relying on technology only resources. DD's assignments are online, and if there are not computers or tablets for every student in every room, they use their phones.

Schools need textbooks again.

We have text books. Homework assignments can be posted to a website and study rooms have computers.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
I really don't think kids should be using cell phones in school. HOWEVER, that means the schools need to stop relying on technology only resources. DD's assignments are online, and if there are not computers or tablets for every student in every room, they use their phones.

Schools need textbooks again.
We have text books. Homework assignments can be posted to a website and study rooms have computers.

Out of 8 classes, DD has one textbook. It's U.S. Government. All the other materials are web based.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

my niece is in grade 5. When I moved out of one of my offices I had a ton of binders that I offered so that her mom could stash away as back ups (she does this with everything. She's a 'I've got that for later' person who actually has useful stuff for later) and she told me that she doesn't need them because the school has gone paperless.

(that said, I'm not sure how homework happens, because she's too young for a laptop or a phone)

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I don't like it. Studies have shown kids retain material better when it is read from a book vs. a screen.

Ohfour · Hooker

My daughter HAD to get a cell phone in the 7th grade in order to be on the Cheerleading team. That was a requirement they relayed before tryouts. The coach often texted them during the day. I think they are much more beneficial than not.

FNW · Guru

While a lot of information is on-line at the boys' new school, they have textbooks. I just finished covering the last two....

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Vette wrote:
I don't necessarily think the staff should be subject to the same thing. Since when do adults have to always follow the same rules as children? Maybe they need to contact other staff members, etc.

Yes. The staff is not the students. That is just silly. In the real world, the rules are different depending on your position in any company or organization. And teachers having a phone seems like a smart idea so they can call 911 or all manner of things.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Cell phones are a fact of life. And confiscating them, etc seems like a big distraction. Everyone has one. All the kids have one. I WANT my kid to have a phone. Trying to take them, lock them, etc seems like an exercise in futility to me. Just have a policy that cells are to be out of sight. In their locker, whatever. If the teacher sees it in class, then yes take it . But, trying to round them up every day, etc, I don't know.

-- Edited by Lady Gaga Snerd on Thursday 29th of August 2019 06:53:08 PM

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Cell phones are a fact of life. And confiscating them, etc seems like a big distraction. Everyone has one. All the kids have one. I WANT my kid to have a phone. Trying to take them, lock them, etc seems like an exercise in futility to me. Just have a policy that cells are to be out of sight. In their locker, whatever. If the teacher sees it in class, then yes take it . But, trying to round them up every day, etc, I don't know.

-- Edited by Lady Gaga Snerd on Thursday 29th of August 2019 06:53:08 PM

It's actually a simple process. As the kids enter each class they place their phone in the designated pocket on the door. No issue at all.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

If they admit to having one. Is the teacher going to search them? I mean, I am sure there are kids who will stuff them down their pants, in their sock, etc.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

And, then on the way out, other kids could help themselves to someone else's phone.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I think this pouch is more feasible in schools that are doing morning seaches. If the kids have to go thru a metal detector, etc first thing in the morning, then that is something that could be more easily done. And the school does have the absolute right to confiscate any student's phone if they choose. But, there are many schools that still do not have morning searches. That would seem a bit harder to do.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I think this pouch is more feasible in schools that are doing morning seaches. If the kids have to go thru a metal detector, etc first thing in the morning, then that is something that could be more easily done. And the school does have the absolute right to confiscate any student's phone if they choose. But, there are many schools that still do not have morning searches. That would seem a bit harder to do.

You are over thinking this stealing thing. Cameras aimed at every classroom door and inside the classroom. No one would get away with stealing.

Momala · Great cook-happy wife-superb fisherman

If I had a child (or grandchild) in school
today, I'd want them to have it on their
person at all times.

However.

Phones should be in backpacks/pockets
at all times. Never in use during regular
school hours. Caught with your phone
during regular school hours? Lots of
community hours to make up.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I think this pouch is more feasible in schools that are doing morning seaches. If the kids have to go thru a metal detector, etc first thing in the morning, then that is something that could be more easily done. And the school does have the absolute right to confiscate any student's phone if they choose. But, there are many schools that still do not have morning searches. That would seem a bit harder to do.
You are over thinking this stealing thing. Cameras aimed at every classroom door and inside the classroom. No one would get away with stealing.

Ok, just trying to think of how some of these things could go in reality. Ultimately, each school can decide what their own cell policy should be. I think the best approach would be to talk to the teachers and find out what best works for them in their classrooms.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

Cameras won't stop everything. Theft will still take place. People are smarter than cameras, happens all the time. And with all the needed cameras, guaranteed that some (if eventually not all) will be maintained poorly and be useless.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Tignanello wrote:
Cameras won't stop everything. Theft will still take place. People are smarter than cameras, happens all the time. And with all the needed cameras, guaranteed that some (if eventually not all) will be maintained poorly and be useless.

Ok but a kid knows immediately if their phone was stolen upon leaving the room. There will be only 25 or suspects. They won't get away with it.