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A New York police officer has been stripped of his gun and badge and placed on desk duty after shocking video emerged showing him beating up a man over an alleged social distancing violation.  

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8283169/Shocking-moment-NYPD-officer-beats-bystander-ground-social-distancing-arrest.html

 

Mayor de Blasio said in parks alone yesterday, officers were forced to issue 43 summonses to those ignoring social distancing protocol. New Yorkers can be fined up to $1000 for violating the orders.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8282651/Thousands-New-Yorkers-leave-lockdown-bask-scorching-70-degree-sunshine.html

 

 

 

The 33-year-old says he was handcuffed at Donelson Park in front of his 6-year-old daughter Sunday afternoon after police told him he violated the state’s social distancing guidelines.          https://kdvr.com/news/man-arrested-in-front-of-daughter-at-brighton-park-for-allegedly-violating-social-distancing/

 

Philly man dragged off a bus for not wearing a mask.    https://abcnews.go.com/US/philadelphia-police-drag-man-mask-off-public-bus/story?id=70104383

 

 

The Justice Department is siding with a Virginia church suing Gov. Ralph Northam after police threatened a pastor with jail time or a $2,500 fine for violating the state's coronavirus lockdown restrictions by holding a 16-person church service on Palm Sunday.   https://www.foxnews.com/politics/justice-department-virginia-church-suing-northam-coronavirus-pastor-support

 

New York City police broke up another huge Orthodox Jewish funeral in Brooklyn Thursday, the Forward reports.   https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-york-city-police-break-up-another-orthodox-jewish-funeral-in-brooklyn



-- Edited by Lady Gaga Snerd on Monday 4th of May 2020 07:37:47 AM

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Govt "guidelines and recommendations" all of the sudden be the strong arm of law.

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Our Dress Rehearsal For A Police State




All my life, I have dismissed paranoids on the right (“America is headed to communism”) and the left (“It can happen here” — referring to fascism). It’s not that I’ve ever believed liberty was guaranteed. Being familiar with history and a pessimist regarding the human condition, I never believed that.

But the ease with which police state tactics have been employed and the equal ease with which most Americans have accepted them have been breathtaking.



People will argue that a temporary police state has been justified because of the allegedly unique threat to life posed by the new coronavirus. I do not believe the data will bear that out. Regardless, let us at least agree that we are closer to a police state than ever in American history.



“Police state” does not mean totalitarian state. America is not a totalitarian state; we still have many freedoms. In a totalitarian state, this article could not be legally published, and if it were illegally published, I would be imprisoned and/or executed.



But we are presently living with all four of the key hallmarks of a police state:



No. 1: Draconian laws depriving citizens of elementary civil rights.



The federal, state, county and city governments are now restricting almost every freedom except those of travel and speech. Americans have been banned from going to work (and thereby earning a living), meeting in groups (both indoors and outdoors), meeting in their cars in church parking lots to pray and entering state-owned properties such as beaches and parks — among many other prohibitions.



No. 2: A mass media supportive of the state’s messaging and deprivation of rights.



The New York Times, CNN and every other mainstream mass medium — except Fox News, The Wall Street Journal (editorial and opinion pages only) and talk radio — have served the cause of state control over individual Americans’ lives just as Pravda served the Soviet government. In fact, there is almost no more dissent in The New York Times than there was in Pravda. And the Big Tech platforms are removing posts about the virus and potential treatments they deem “misinformation.”



No. 3: Use of police.



Police departments throughout America have agreed to enforce these laws and edicts with what can only be described as frightening alacrity. After hearing me describe police giving summonses to, or even arresting, people for playing baseball with their children on a beach, jogging alone without a mask, or worshipping on Easter while sitting isolated in their cars in a church parking lot, a police officer called my show. He explained that the police have no choice. They must respond to every dispatch they receive.



“And why are they dispatched to a person jogging on a beach or sitting alone in a park?” I asked.



Because the department was informed about these lawbreakers.



“And who told the police about these lawbreakers?” I asked.



His answer brings us to the fourth characteristic of a police state:



No. 4: Snitches.



How do the police dispatchers learn of lawbreakers such as families playing softball in a public park, lone joggers without face masks, etc.? From their fellow citizens snitching on them.



The mayor of New York City, Bill de Blasio, set up a “snitch line,” whereby New Yorkers were told to send authorities photos of fellow New Yorkers violating any of the quarantine laws. Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti similarly encouraged snitching, unabashedly using the term.



It is said that about 1 in every 100 East German citizens were informers for the Stasi, the East German secret police, as superbly portrayed in the film “The Lives of Others.” It would be interesting, and, I think, important, to know what percentage of New Yorkers informed on their fellow citizens. Now, again, you may think such a comparison is not morally valid, that de Blasio’s call to New Yorkers to serve a Stasi-like role was morally justified given the coronavirus pandemic. But you cannot deny it is Stasi-like or that, other than identifying spies during World War II, this is unprecedented in American history at anywhere near this level.



This past Friday night, I gathered with six others for a Shabbat dinner with friends in Santa Monica, California. On my Friday radio show, I announced I would be doing that, and if I was arrested, it would be worth it. In my most pessimistic dreams, I never imagined that in America, having dinner at a friend’s house would be an act of civil disobedience, perhaps even a criminal act. But that is precisely what happens in a police state.



The reason I believe this is a dress rehearsal is that too many Americans appear untroubled by it; the dominant force in America, the left, supports it, and one of the two major political parties has been taken over by the left. Democrats and their supporters have, in effect, announced they will use state power to enforce any law they can to combat the even greater “existential” crisis of global warming.



On the CNN website this weekend, in one of the most frightening and fanatical articles in an era of fanaticism, Bill Weir, CNN chief climate correspondent, wrote an open letter to his newborn son. In it, he wrote of his idealized future for America: “completely new forms of power, food, construction, transportation, economics and politics.”



You cannot get there without a police state.



If you love liberty, you must see that it is jeopardized more than at any time since America’s founding. And that means, among other things, that at this time, a vote for any Democrat is a vote to end liberty.



Dennis Prager is a nationally syndicated radio talk-show host and columnist. His latest book, published by Regnery in May 2019, is “The Rational Bible,” a commentary on the book of Genesis. His film, “No Safe Spaces,” came to theaters fall 2019. He is the founder of Prager University and may be contacted at dennisprager.com.


www.dailywire.com/news/prager-our-dress-rehearsal-for-a-police-state

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Trump said last night that our governor wants to extend the stay at home orders through mid June. WTF? I wish businesses would just reopen and say the hell with him as others in the country are doing.

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Why are we as AMERICANS just laying down??

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I don't know. If I owned a business, I think I would say "f" it and open. With safety in mind and "rules" in place.



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I do believe a lot of people are rebelling, the protests, people going to beaches, stores and debating on social media. Sheriffs in some states are refusing to issue citations.

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A city on Oklahoma had to soften their mask wearing rule. I hope more people rebel.

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I've long said that states need their power back. The federal Government should not be making most state laws.

Now, that states are getting that power back, hopefully, it will cause people to care more and vote. Get involved with what is directly affecting them.



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I wish the feds could step in and interfere with our governor's wishes to postpone reopening again and again.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

I've long said that states need their power back. The federal Government should not be making most state laws.

Now, that states are getting that power back, hopefully, it will cause people to care more and vote. Get involved with what is directly affecting them.


 The federal government is not making the laws for the states. It has been clearly directed that it is up to the states. I agree on the voting motivation.



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I'm going to Florida in two weeks. It's a private house, and I am going!

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We're starting to open in bigger ways. Masks appear to be optional; social pressure will likely increase their usage.

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I'm going to Florida in two weeks. It's a private house, and I am going!


 Take me!



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I'm jelly.

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Watch it! May slab some peanut butter on you!

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And now they are using drones to check temps: www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fever-reading-drones-just-first-of-a-wave-of-privacy-challenges-civil-liberties-advocates-say/ar-BB13zWBs


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I've long said that states need their power back. The federal Government should not be making most state laws.

Now, that states are getting that power back, hopefully, it will cause people to care more and vote. Get involved with what is directly affecting them.


 The States are the ones dictating the shut down and have been all along.



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How much power is too much.

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How much power is too much.


 Well, look to Florida, California, Michigan and New York and you have your answer.  



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Add Virginia to that bunch.

Since reopening, have the numbers spiked in those states that reopened?

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FNW wrote:

Add Virginia to that bunch.

Since reopening, have the numbers spiked in those states that reopened?


 I think it's too soon to tell with the long incubation period.  But let me tell you - Lowe's is across the street and I've never seen that parking lot that full.  



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It would seem that limiting the number of businesses that can be open only creates a situation where there are more congregating in one location rather than being spread out among many locations, if that makes sense.

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It would seem that limiting the number of businesses that can be open only creates a situation where there are more congregating in one location rather than being spread out among many locations, if that makes sense.


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Lowe’s, Walmart, and target has been consistently full since this whole thing started and we have Lowe numbers here.

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He extended the order two more weeks. Geez. Rush called this one.

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Over here it has been extended til 5/31 and rumors that the "experts" say it should be for A YEAR..... What dimwits.

And the slight reopening of libraries, museums, etc. include 2 meters between people - wonder how you do that on a train or in a taxi, etc. etc.

The whole thing just seems to have been blown out of proportion. And, yes, once power is given to enforce, watch out.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

I've long said that states need their power back. The federal Government should not be making most state laws.

Now, that states are getting that power back, hopefully, it will cause people to care more and vote. Get involved with what is directly affecting them.


 The States are the ones dictating the shut down and have been all along.


 Yes. I know.



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