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ed11563 · Guru

Cheating Disney

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

I was actually shocked at Prudie's advice. She is advocating lying in front of your children. I don't think that's right. It isn't the money, it's the principle. You don't teach your children to lie. This is akin to shoplifting, imho.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I really don't understand why anyone would take a kid that little there. I waited until my kids were able to ride every single ride in the park.

I mean if you are going to go to Disney, go to Disney.

Don't lie. It always comes back to bite you.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Mellow Momma wrote:
I was actually shocked at Prudie's advice. She is advocating lying in front of your children. I don't think that's right. It isn't the money, it's the principle. You don't teach your children to lie. This is akin to shoplifting, imho.

Yeah. I'm appalled. That's just terrible advice. It's lying and stealing.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
I really don't understand why anyone would take a kid that little there. I waited until my kids were able to ride every single ride in the park.

I mean if you are going to go to Disney, go to Disney.

Don't lie. It always comes back to bite you.

Baby J went to Disney her first time shortly before turning 3 - that's how you do it without paying btw - and she LOVED it. It's a different experience with little kids and Disney is really not all about the rides.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

The part that bothers me the most is when she says "don't worry about ripping off Disney, you will be spending a bundle". The amount of money you spend doesn't give you the right to take what you want for free. The next time I go to Nordstrom's how about if I buy a dress and just take the shoes since I will be dropping a bundle anyway? Ummmm...no.

That argument is what always makes people think stealing from a big corporation is ok. And then they complain about the prices. Ever consider that it's expensive because so many people steal that the revenue has to be made up with higher prices?!

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Mellow Momma wrote:
The part that bothers me the most is when she says "don't worry about ripping off Disney, you will be spending a bundle". The amount of money you spend doesn't give you the right to take what you want for free. The next time I go to Nordstrom's how about if I buy a dress and just take the shoes since I will be dropping a bundle anyway? Ummmm...no.

That argument is what always makes people think stealing from a big corporation is ok. And then they complain about the prices. Ever consider that it's expensive because so many people steal that the revenue has to be made up with higher prices?!

Tell me about it. And having gone to many amusement parks, I can tell you that Disney's prices for basics are not that bad. Seaworld is much worse. As an example - a bottle of water is $2 at Disney and closer to $4 at Seaworld. Disney is also pretty lenient about bringing in snacks and drinks for kids. You CAN do Disney on a budget.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Personally, I think Disney is worth every penny. Yeah it is expensive and can be a once in a life time thing for a lot of people, but it has always been the best vacation ever.

And if a person can stay in the resort, it's so much better. I don't think I would ever go again if I couldn't stay in the park.

Just the convenience of not having to deal with the parking lot parade at the end of the evening is worth it.

ed11563 · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
The part that bothers me the most is when she says "don't worry about ripping off Disney, you will be spending a bundle". The amount of money you spend doesn't give you the right to take what you want for free. The next time I go to Nordstrom's how about if I buy a dress and just take the shoes since I will be dropping a bundle anyway? Ummmm...no.

That argument is what always makes people think stealing from a big corporation is ok. And then they complain about the prices. Ever consider that it's expensive because so many people steal that the revenue has to be made up with higher prices?!

That really bothered me too. She can get in trouble for that.

FNW · Guru

My kids do not remember much when they were younger than 4 and even then, it's sketchy. I doubt a 3 year old would know her parents were lying about her age. Particularly when they can just order the tickets on line without the other children's knowledge of what was transpiring.

That being said, I do not think it's morally right to defraud anyone. Even Disney.

Bonny22Pye · Guru

I do not understand the attraction of theme parks?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Bonny22Pye wrote:
I do not understand the attraction of theme parks?

Wait until your son is four and then take him to Disneyland. The way his face lights up will make it clear.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:
I do not understand the attraction of theme parks?
Wait until your son is four and then take him to Disneyland. The way his face lights up will make it clear.

My boys were older when we first went, so that eliminated a lot of the whining.

I can't wait to take my granddaughter.

flan

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Prudie is so wrong. What does it matter what the salary of a CEO is? If you don't like it don't go. But if you do go, do the right thing. Obviously if you are going, the business is offering something that you like, and to not want to pay and lying is very wrong.

FNW · Guru

Disney recommends you wait until children are 7.

Vette · Owl drink to that!

I'm glad you guys all agree her advice was wacked because I was like wtf when I read it

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

VetteGirl wrote:
I'm glad you guys all agree her advice was wacked because I was like wtf when I read it

Right?! Me too!

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

First off - I've taken my children when they were little and the LOVED it. Baby J is 4 and she has been 3 times and she talks about it all the time. We had a wonderful time. I really, really think your mindset towards Disney determines if you enjoy it. WE love it as adults. And quite frankly, the crazy people who go during the busiest times, are just that - crazy. Going when the rest of the world is going and then complaining it's crowded - well, that was your choice.

-- Edited by Lawyerlady on Saturday 25th of October 2014 10:55:17 AM

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I have been 3 times. Disney had just opened the first time and honestly the only thing I remember was the parking lot and the boat to get over to it. Nothing else.

The second time I was 12 or 13 and I remember the heat. Yes I remember some of the park and stuff but I remember staying in that pop up camper in the Florida sun and being glad the park was cooler than the camper and camp ground.

The last time I took my kids. 2004. It was fun and I think I remember more of it because I made sure we slowed way down and took our time with it. We had the hopper pass but we spent most of our time in the Magic Kingdom. We hit the other parks for a day each but the Magic Kingdom was where we spent a lot of time.

Being in the Resort and having the ability to come and go as we pleased made it the most enjoyable trip ever.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Yes. Staying at the resort makes a world of difference.

huskerbb · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
I was actually shocked at Prudie's advice. She is advocating lying in front of your children. I don't think that's right. It isn't the money, it's the principle. You don't teach your children to lie. This is akin to shoplifting, imho.

The kid isn't going to know, remember, or pay attention. It's not, in this instance, teaching the kids anything.

I'm not advocating this, necessarily, but that facet of it is WAY overblown.

Disney and other theme parks are ridiculously overpriced. You have to pay more than $100 to stand in line for most of the day. Sure, they choose to go there, but I'm not going to lose sleep if a few toddlers get in free, either.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
I was actually shocked at Prudie's advice. She is advocating lying in front of your children. I don't think that's right. It isn't the money, it's the principle. You don't teach your children to lie. This is akin to shoplifting, imho.
The kid isn't going to know, remember, or pay attention. It's not, in this instance, teaching the kids anything.

I'm not advocating this, necessarily, but that facet of it is WAY overblown.

Disney and other theme parks are ridiculously overpriced. You have to pay more than $100 to stand in line for most of the day. Sure, they choose to go there, but I'm not going to lose sleep if a few toddlers get in free, either.

It's done, Husker. A lot. But that's a little different that a national columnist saying there's nothing wrong with it and actually advocating it.

huskerbb · Guru

I guess. I'm not that worried about it, though. Big hairy deal.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

It's about integrity. It doesn't matter if it's easy, or Disney makes a lot of money. Integrity means doing what's right - not what "isn't a big deal".

Fort Worth Mom · Mod/Penguin lover/Princess!

Lawyerlady wrote:
It's about integrity. It doesn't matter if it's easy, or Disney makes a lot of money. Integrity means doing what's right - not what "isn't a big deal".

I agree. Stealing is stealing. And lying is lying. If you aren't willing to pay for your 3 year old, don't go.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
Yes. Staying at the resort makes a world of difference.

It does.

I would love to go again before the kids all go their separate ways and life takes over. Maybe we will get the chance. Who knows.

But I will never go again if I cant stay in the park.

And yes, I want to stay in the Cinderella Suit. At least once.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
It's about integrity. It doesn't matter if it's easy, or Disney makes a lot of money. Integrity means doing what's right - not what "isn't a big deal".

Meh, not my problem. I wouldn't take a toddler there, anyway.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Yes. Staying at the resort makes a world of difference.
It does.
I would love to go again before the kids all go their separate ways and life takes over. Maybe we will get the chance. Who knows.
But I will never go again if I cant stay in the park.
And yes, I want to stay in the Cinderella Suit. At least once.

Good luck with that. You can't rent it - you have to be CHOSEN to stay there. Or ridiculously famous, like Tom Cruise.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Yes. Staying at the resort makes a world of difference.
It does.
I would love to go again before the kids all go their separate ways and life takes over. Maybe we will get the chance. Who knows.
But I will never go again if I cant stay in the park.
And yes, I want to stay in the Cinderella Suit. At least once.
Good luck with that. You can't rent it - you have to be CHOSEN to stay there. Or ridiculously famous, like Tom Cruise.

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Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

You know - Disney even has the policy that if your kid's birthday is DURING the trip - don't worry about it. If they are 2 when they arrive, they are 2 the whole week.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

huskerbb wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
I was actually shocked at Prudie's advice. She is advocating lying in front of your children. I don't think that's right. It isn't the money, it's the principle. You don't teach your children to lie. This is akin to shoplifting, imho.
The kid isn't going to know, remember, or pay attention. It's not, in this instance, teaching the kids anything.

I'm not advocating this, necessarily, but that facet of it is WAY overblown.

Disney and other theme parks are ridiculously overpriced. You have to pay more than $100 to stand in line for most of the day. Sure, they choose to go there, but I'm not going to lose sleep if a few toddlers get in free, either.

The OP has older children that WILL know there is lying going on. The toddler isn't the only child in this circumstance. So it IS teaching the children something. Prudie even references the older children in her response. So I stand by my assertion that it's teaching the children to lie and that is wrong.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Lawyerlady wrote:
It's about integrity. It doesn't matter if it's easy, or Disney makes a lot of money. Integrity means doing what's right - not what "isn't a big deal".

The price of the item in question us also what makes some people think it's ok to steal. " it's so expensive, so go ahead and lie". How does that make sense ? Again, if I see some Louboutin shoes I want should I just take them because they are so expensive and the company makes so much money off of everyone else and it's really stupid to charge that much money for those anyway ?

Those arguments don't make sense when you use the logic for other high priced items.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lawyerlady wrote:
First off - I've taken my children when they were little and the LOVED it. Baby J is 4 and she has been 3 times and she talks about it all the time. We had a wonderful time. I really, really think your mindset towards Disney determines if you enjoy it. WE love it as adults. And quite frankly, the crazy people who go during the busiest times, are just that - crazy. Going when the rest of the world is going and then complaining it's crowded - well, that was your choice.

-- Edited by Lawyerlady on Saturday 25th of October 2014 10:55:17 AM

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Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
First off - I've taken my children when they were little and the LOVED it. Baby J is 4 and she has been 3 times and she talks about it all the time. We had a wonderful time. I really, really think your mindset towards Disney determines if you enjoy it. WE love it as adults. And quite frankly, the crazy people who go during the busiest times, are just that - crazy. Going when the rest of the world is going and then complaining it's crowded - well, that was your choice.

-- Edited by Lawyerlady on Saturday 25th of October 2014 10:55:17 AM

I already told you so. Good luck!

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lawyerlady wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
First off - I've taken my children when they were little and the LOVED it. Baby J is 4 and she has been 3 times and she talks about it all the time. We had a wonderful time. I really, really think your mindset towards Disney determines if you enjoy it. WE love it as adults. And quite frankly, the crazy people who go during the busiest times, are just that - crazy. Going when the rest of the world is going and then complaining it's crowded - well, that was your choice.

-- Edited by Lawyerlady on Saturday 25th of October 2014 10:55:17 AM

I already told you so. Good luck!

Actually the funny part is Dd would rather go to Universal studios for all the Harry Potter exhibits, and of course swim with the dolphins somewhere. We will have 6 days to do stuff, 3 will be spent at parks and dolphins swimming, 3 at the resort with family. I hate crowds. Is it mean that I want Dd to have a good time but leave with that feeling that those parks are just not worth it due to the crowds?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

You will have a much better time taking the days off in between. You can't do it all - don't even try. Just enjoy what you can do.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yeah, I personally would not want to take a 3 yr old there. Seems pointless. It would be totally overwhelming. Save your money and go to the local fair or carnival.

We went when my kids were 10,14, and 16. Discovery Cove was Da Bomb. We LOVED that.

-- Edited by Lady Gaga Snerd on Saturday 25th of October 2014 03:16:07 PM

FNW · Guru

I paid for 6 two day, two park passes. Spent about 2 hours at each because it was too darned hot. But I used fast passes and the longest line we waited in was 5 minutes. So we got to ride on most if not all rides we wanted in each 2 hour stint. Did I feel like it was a waste? No. We had fun, didn't overexert ourselves, then relaxed in the pool.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

We stayed for 10 days.

We would go to the park around 10ish and stay until it got to hot or we got tired of it or hungry. Then we would go back to the cabin and have lunch, swim, take a nap. And then go back around 5ish and stay till we wanted to leave.

And when the throng of people went one way, we wen the opposite. When it starts getting dark people start making their way to get the best seat for the fireworks.

That's the best time to ride things.

Things you would wait in line to ride 2 hours earlier you just walk up and get on.

They would even let you ride twice if they could.

We would stay and ride until they pushed us out of the park. And they don't shut everything down at once so you can ride and ride and ride.

FNW · Guru

We had planned to return after dinner each night, but it stormed and left the air very damp and muggy. We decided to watch the fireworks from our room or from the comforts of the hotel's lazy river.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Yep. That is a plan.

We watched it one night from the boat. That was nice.

We could see them from the beach at the campground too.

And after the fireworks the boats or ferries did a light parade. So that was fun too.