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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

You lock them up until they are deemed to be safe again. If that happens let them out. If they aren't then they stay where they are.


But NO ONE knows when that is.

 

You can't say for certain that anyone you lock up will commit violence in the first place--nor can you guarantee any of them would be "safe" if you let them out.   

 

You are guessing.  We can't imprison people based on guesses. 



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People are locked up in psych wards every day against their will. I have worked in LOCK DOWN UNITS. This already exists. The problem is that they don't do it for kids. Adults are fair game though.

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

People are locked up in psych wards every day against their will. I have worked in LOCK DOWN UNITS. This already exists. The problem is that they don't do it for kids. Adults are fair game though.


My brother was locked up for a whole week against his will because he said he had thought about hurting himself. Not because he said he was going to, he thought about it. 



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Southern_Belle wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

People are locked up in psych wards every day against their will. I have worked in LOCK DOWN UNITS. This already exists. The problem is that they don't do it for kids. Adults are fair game though.


My brother was locked up for a whole week against his will because he said he had thought about hurting himself. Not because he said he was going to, he thought about it. 


 And if we did that with some of these kids we MIGHT help them.  MIGHT.



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Yep.

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I think I've told this story before and I'll leave out all the identifying details. At one nursing home I worked at we had this tiny little lady. She was literally about four foot two inches. And weighed about 98 pounds. She was little. And she was mean crazy. I don't mean like she was confused and did things she shouldn't. She was MEAN. She was constantly attacking the staff. When we sat at our desks and charted she would throw anything and everything at us. Coffee mugs, water pitchers, keys, anything she could get her hands on. And yes, it hurt if she chucked it at your head. However, violence against nurses is perfectly acceptable. There is no rule against it. HERE, it is a reportable offense if anyone touches a patient. Either a staff member or another patient. You have to call the police. This lady was constantly attacking other patients. We told the doctors. They laughed and said her? She's too little to hurt a fly. The police would come and take the report and laugh and say her? She couldn't hurt a fly. I don't know how many times we called the police on her. I know it was dozens. The police got to where they thought it was a joke. Then one day they came in laughing and joking. Again? They said? All of a sudden that woman darted out and grabbed the policeman's gun, c0cked it, and held them at gun point. Quicker than quick she was thrown in the back of a police car and hauled off to the state mental institution. To this day I don't know why no one ever listened to us. We told them that it was a disaster in the making...

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I am sorry. I giggled at the mental picture that story gave me. I am going to hell.

My grandma used to smack people with her cane at the nursing home. Then they took it away and gave her a walker. So she pulled a stake out of a big plant in the hallway and started smacking people with that. She also rolled herself into the kitchen and b!tched at the cooks and told them they were "doing it wrong". Those nursing home workers were saints.

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Well, it IS funny when you're telling it. I mean, really funny. But it was scary as hell to watch that crazy old lady pull a gun on the police. Not just because she was crazy but because she was crazy enough to shoot ANYONE. The staff, the other patients, everyone.

A lot of older people get kind of mean when they start losing their minds. We're used to that. We're used to patients striking out and stuff. I once had this little guy who was so cute and adorable. But as his dementia increased he became a cusser. He would call us b!tches and wh0res. He'd grab our boobs and anything else he could. His family was appalled. They would apologize on a daily basis. They would tell us over and over again that that's not what he used to be like and he himself would be ashamed of how he was acting. I would always tell them we understood. I felt so bad for that family.

We had another patient at that same nursing home get tazered. He went down the block, bought illegal drugs, and the police followed him back to the nursing home. He tried to escape over the fence in the back and when the police pulled him down he pulled a knife on them. They tazered him and he got hauled off too. He went to jail though.

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I wonder what it is about dementia that makes people get mean and nasty? Why doesn't it make people get super nice and cuddly? Lol

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I actually think it reverses their personality. People who were really nice before generally turn mean. People who were mean before tend to turn nice. It's weird and I can't prove it. Just my personal experiences.

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I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
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Dulmer was a troll / stalker on the MM board.


 Ok, so why is that relevant to this thread?


 It's not.  But some people like to act like trolls and get in bitchy little digs whenever they think it's funny. 



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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

People are locked up in psych wards every day against their will. I have worked in LOCK DOWN UNITS. This already exists. The problem is that they don't do it for kids. Adults are fair game though.


Not for very darn long--and there is no guarantee they won't still do something bad when they get out.  



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