TOTALLY GEEKED!

Hell, I know REPUBLICANS that voted for him because he is black!

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Squeakers wrote:

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I don't know a single democrat who said they wouldn't vote for Obama because he was black. Interesting, huh????

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 Well I do.  And nary a Republican uttered those words...

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 And I don't. And I saw a lot of racist political t-shirts, signs, and bumper stickers and displays propped up by people voting republican. So what? Neither of our experiences give validity to the claim that racism is exclusive to one side or another.

I'm saying that I think some votes either way were racially motivated. I think some people voted Republican that would normally vote democratic because of race. I think some voted democratic who were otherwise republicans because of race. I do not think racism is exclusive to political party, just like it isn't exclusive to one or two races.

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I'm saying that I think some votes either way were racially motivated. I think some people voted Republican that would normally vote democratic because of race. I think some voted democratic who were otherwise republicans because of race. I do not think racism is exclusive to political party, just like it isn't exclusive to one or two races.

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 I agree.  HOWEVER, the point was that it is the Democratic LEADERS and MEDIA who constantly cry racism over everything.   Not whatever your average voter thinks.

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 I think conservative media and leaders would do the same if there was a black republican president. 

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I'm saying that I think some votes either way were racially motivated. I think some people voted Republican that would normally vote democratic because of race. I think some voted democratic who were otherwise republicans because of race. I do not think racism is exclusive to political party, just like it isn't exclusive to one or two races.

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 I agree.  HOWEVER, the point was that it is the Democratic LEADERS and MEDIA who constantly cry racism over everything.   Not whatever your average voter thinks.

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 I think conservative media and leaders would do the same if there was a black republican president. 

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You have no basis for that.  We have black republican politicians and the only real comments about their race come from Democrats and other blacks who say they "aren't really black" or a "traitor to their race", and blah blah blah.   

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And quite frankly - because of all the race baiting CONSTANTLY, it is the sad truth that this country is MORE racist after its first black president than it was before. He was a very poor choice because he was unqualified and inexperienced and people just can't stop talking about his race.

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Nobody is talking about his race EXCEPT for Dems who bring it up nonstop.  They are the ones who only see skin color. 

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 You are much more intelligent than that...

flan

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We are going to call you out on it.  So, if you want to have an intelligent discussion then you and your leaders and your talking heads need to stop their racism BULLCRAP.  Otherwise, we are going to call you out on it. 

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 Okey dokey, I'll get right on that...cuz who wouldn't listen to a children's librarian from Indiana?

flan

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 You do this all the time.  But you do have power - it's called your vote.  And I realize you didn't vote Tuesday, so thank you.

You know, democrats on this board get a lot of flack for not "calling things out" but we do, and we are told that it doesn't matter because of the media and party heads.

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You know, democrats on this board get a lot of flack for not "calling things out" but we do, and we are told that it doesn't matter because of the media and party heads.

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 But you don't "call it out" - you simply respond when others do and usually with stuff about Republicans.

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You know, democrats on this board get a lot of flack for not "calling things out" but we do, and we are told that it doesn't matter because of the media and party heads.

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 But you don't "call it out" - you simply respond when others do and usually with stuff about Republicans.

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 I do too. "calling out" is coming out and saying that you don't support someone, in my opinion. And of course I respond when others do... I don't post the articles, I haven't posted any political articles in a long time, and I won't. Not me, not going to do that here.

 

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4c4_1415225981#0Poc5WQobxdc85Rh.99

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This thread is a great example of why I think we should abolish the 2 party system.

It creates a gang mentality that divides Americans.

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 I don't know, Empy.

People will always disagree on important issues.

I don't blame the system for posters who hurl insults instead of having a mature discussion.

flan

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 I see it all of the time in real life too.  The people that are die hard liberals or conservatives will die on any hill that has their name on it.  It's so strange.  Why can't we think issues out one at a time and reach our own conclusions?  Why do people just agree with everything that the leader of the gang says?  

 

It's especially frustrating for people like me.  I was sort of raised to be a republican, so that's the flag I flew and then when I was put on the spot several times and expected to defend issues that I didn't agree with, I felt like maybe I wasn't a republican at all?  So then I looked into the Democratic views, I disagree with several things on that spectrum too.  So if I HAVE to wear a badge (you have to register one way or another to vote in Utah)  I am still a republican because I agree with 75% of the conservative views.  And I disagree with about 75% of liberal stances.  

I support gay marriage.  I support a woman's right to choose to have an abortion in very limited circumstances (most republicans are all or nothing, even with rape or severe fetal deformity), I don't think people should be allowed to walk into a restaurant wielding a shotgun just to prove they can carry a firearm legally, I don't know if global warming is a man made issue as I don't have the scientific findings presented to me from several top scientists, nor do I have the educational background to properly analyze the information so I'm truly up in the air on that.  I do think Marijuana should be legalized.  I do think animals should have rights.  I do think some places should be free from the mention of God or the bible.  

All of that is enough to get you kicked out of a die hard republicans club.  

 

On the flip side of that, I have a friend whom I have bonded with from a very liberal news outlet online who has the same problem as me.  We have been talking since Dr. Tiller was murdered so, a lengthy friendship of chatting online.    

She is a Democrat and said she felt compromised by other leftists because she does have a strong belief in God, she has a huge problem with our open borders and sanctuary cities, she thinks partial birth abortions are worse than killing a bank clerk and she thinks that global warming is yet to be proven.  She voted for Obama the first time around but was turned off by the health care fiasco, solyndra, cash for clunkers because those cars that got crushed could have been donated to people that had fallen on hard times with the bad economy, we talked about lots more but I would have to dig through emails to find the ones I am not remembering.  

Oh, and she hated Hillary for how callous she was over Benghazi and seemed to think the whole administration acted shady over it.  

So, plenty of stuff to get other Democrats to jump all over her if she said these points in the main forum.  

All of this has got me thinking about how weird it is that people have to align with all issues and agree firmly with their party to be accepted on either side.

 

 

Also, a while back me and my hubby attended a dinner party where everybody had wine with dinner and then sat around drinking desert wine, so naturally the conversation turned to politics

The guests of honor are Jewish folks from Israel.  They talked about how different it was that American Jews were in support of Obama who has harmful policies towards their part of the world.  I don't remember all of what was said (wine) but it was interesting and i should have paid close attention because they were very knowledgeable and seemed to have a lot of insight as to why Obama is bad for the world as a whole.  

I think they are heading back to L.A. in just a few weeks so if we get invited to the next one I will not drink so much wine so I can take better notes :)  The best part about that whole thing was the back and forth because these are people speaking against the liberal president to a bunch of staunch democrats but they were able to do it freely because they don't get kicked out of the club as they are citizens of a different country.  

So, that's a lot of rambling!  Sorry!  But that's my outlook and where it comes from.  

Carry on! 

Thank you, Empy!

flan

But I also stated I don't support that people who disagree with Obama are called racist strictly based on their disagreement. I stated that several times. And yeah, that post was a poor post but I was responding out of anger at the use of the word "Democrap."

To be clear, I would not have used the word conservadick if it was not in response to the word democrap.

And that is just THIS thread.

Honestly, I can respect anybody who has taken the time to THINK!

If you have put serious thought into something and then get to reaching a conclusion, you deserve to have your opinion and not be trashed because of what that opinion is.

It's all of the people who follow blindly just because they are a member of the blue gang or the red gang that drive me crazy. Those who don't think about anything with their god-given conscience are the detriment of our society.

Wake up and think for yourselves! Stop following politicians based on the R or D beside their name!

Our nation has a bad case of the blind leading the blind folded. Take off your blindfold and tell them that you see them for what they are! Corrupt money grubbing racketeers!

Yeah, tell the to MSNBC. Maddow and Matthews are going full out hate...

 

(this was in rely to Ed's post)

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I don't really see this as hate, but discussion with a little arguing thrown in.

I don't hate anyone here, I don't think anyone on this thread hates me. I might be wrong, but I wouldn't call it hate.

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 I agree. 

 

Although in all honesty, I pretty much hate Reid.

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But I also stated I don't support that people who disagree with Obama are called racist strictly based on their disagreement. I stated that several times. And yeah, that post was a poor post but I was responding out of anger at the use of the word "Democrap."

To be clear, I would not have used the word conservadick if it was not in response to the word democrap.

And that is just THIS thread.

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 I have already pointed out that husker used the FIRST insult on this thread.

Conveniently, my post was ignored...

flan

And Pelosi. I pretty much hate her, too.

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And Pelosi. I pretty much hate her, too.

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 I don't think there is anyone in America I hate as much as her. How that woman can just outright lie and get away with it, I will never know...

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 I just can NOT figure out how she keeps getting elected. 

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And Pelosi. I pretty much hate her, too.

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 I don't think there is anyone in America I hate as much as her. How that woman can just outright lie and get away with it, I will never know...

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 I just can NOT figure out how she keeps getting elected. 

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 But she is stupid, and makes anyone that votes for her look stupid.

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And Pelosi. I pretty much hate her, too.

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 I don't think there is anyone in America I hate as much as her. How that woman can just outright lie and get away with it, I will never know...

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 I just can NOT figure out how she keeps getting elected. 

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LOL! Flannie!!!  

 

 

Nobody is ever going to align with your beliefs fully. Do you spouse and kids and family all have the same exact beliefs? Of course not. You can agree to disagree and then find the best of the bunch with whom you mostly support . And, if you don't support any of them, write in, or don't vote or pick the best of the worst depending on your approach. I no longer pick the best of the worst. My Non Vote will be a vote now. They have to earn my vote. If not, they don't get it.

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I really don't know how you guys figure out how to vote. We have 5+ parties and there still isn't a single one that aligns with my beliefs fully.

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 Since it's the government, I only care about their stance on government issues, not social ones.  The economy, immigration, education.

 

I couldn't care less about a politician's stance on abortion, same sex marriage, or any other social issues.

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 This 1000x

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I really don't know how you guys figure out how to vote. We have 5+ parties and there still isn't a single one that aligns with my beliefs fully.

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 Since it's the government, I only care about their stance on government issues, not social ones.  The economy, immigration, education.

 

I couldn't care less about a politician's stance on abortion, same sex marriage, or any other social issues.

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Those are government issues.   

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 They should not be.  The government should be LIMITED, and only concern itself with the basics.