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ed11563 · Guru

A Priest Starts His Sermon With A Lie About Gay People, So This Awesome Lady Interrupts Him

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

This is clearly staged and filmed. Are you trying to say this "awesome lady" is some spontaneous event?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

So, if you know what the position of the Church already is, then you go and tell them to "stick it" what point are you trying to make?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Ooooh, watch me go in and "tell the Church off" with self righteous indignation.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I love it, ed. Thanks.

flan

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

Is there a transcript?

ed11563 · Guru

A Priest Starts His Sermon With A Lie About Gay People, So This Awesome Lady Interrupts Him

Curated by Joseph Lamour

As a gay man who grew up in a Roman Catholic household, I know the push and pull of being a good Christian versus being exactly who God made you, especially if you're part of the LGBTQ spectrum. But those things don't have to be mutually exclusive, do they? This grandmother from Australian TV comedy "Please Like Me" doesn't think so.

Just wait for the last line.

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Pastor: Homosexual sex is dangerous and destructive to the human body. Homosexuality is a sin.
Grandmother I have...I have just learned that I have a homosexual grandson. Technically, he is not my grandson but anyway, that's not important so certainly it was a disappointment. I feel like I've been robbed of great grandchildren, but if he has decided to lead a homosexual lifestyle isn't it my responsibility to love him? Because if they are born that way they have no choice but to be true to themselves. Josh, stand up. Stand up. This is my Josh. He is homosexual and I love him, which is what God would want and if it isn't what God would want then he or she could stick it. Come on, we're off.
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Original clip from Australian Broadcasting Corporation's "Please Like Me."

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ed11563 · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
This is clearly staged and filmed. Are you trying to say this "awesome lady" is some spontaneous event?

I posted it because I found it interesting and possibly worth discussing.

Squeakers · Regular

She didn't correct him that homosexual sex is dangerous and destructive... And right now, it's not completely untrue. Unprotected anal sex between two men is still considered riskier than heterosexual anal sex because there's still a higher instance of gay men who have HIV than straight men. But lesbian sex is the safest of them all.

A better statement would be unprotected sex is dangerous. Because it is. For gay and straight people.

Squeakers · Regular

My point was, the priest didn't really lie. It being a sin is between God and each person, but gay man on man sex is statistically more dangerous.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Squeakers wrote:
My point was, the priest didn't really lie. It being a sin is between God and each person, but gay man on man sex is statistically more dangerous.

I had not thought about his first statement. I was focused on the second.

flan

Squeakers · Regular

To him, that is not a lie. That is between him and God.

I have a problem with people who become so focused on homosexuality as a sin that they ignore all other sins, acting as if homosexuality is the only sin that exists in the world.

Squeakers · Regular

Plus from what I'm understanding, this is from a TV Show, not real life.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Pastor: Homosexual sex is dangerous and destructive to the human body. Homosexuality is a sin.

Grandmother I have...I have just learned that I have a homosexual grandson. Technically, he is not my grandson but anyway, that's not important so certainly it was a disappointment. I feel like I've been robbed of great grandchildren, but if he has decided to lead a homosexual lifestyle isn't it my responsibility to love him? Because if they are born that way they have no choice but to be true to themselves. Josh, stand up. Stand up. This is my Josh. He is homosexual and I love him, which is what God would want and if it isn't what God would want then he or she could stick it. Come on, we're off.

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Well, two things -

First, this is a pastor preaching that homosexuality is a sin. That is pretty basic, and yes there are other sins. Pastors don't usually preach on EVERY sin every Sunday - they focus on different sins at different times. Our pastor is focusing on putting Jesus first and the multitude of sins that keep people from doing that, but it's a series - not all in one sermon. So, yes, there are other sins, but it is highly doubtful this pastor preaches on homosexuality every Sunday.

As for the grandmother - she is right. It is her job to love her grandson and that is what God would want.

Squeakers · Regular

Maybe, but we have all seen the people who scream against homosexuality while attending church on sunday with their out of wedlock children, live in girlfriend or third husband. That's my point.

ed11563 · Guru

Squeakers wrote:
Plus from what I'm understanding, this is from a TV Show, not real life.

That explains the quality of the video.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Squeakers wrote:
Maybe, but we have all seen the people who scream against homosexuality while attending church on sunday with their out of wedlock children, live in girlfriend or third husband. That's my point.

That gets preached on, too, but it's not as controversial b/c even the people doing it know it is a sin.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Squeakers wrote:
Plus from what I'm understanding, this is from a TV Show, not real life.

Yeah, I saw that. I still liked it.

flan

Squeakers · Regular

Lawyerlady wrote:
Squeakers wrote:
Maybe, but we have all seen the people who scream against homosexuality while attending church on sunday with their out of wedlock children, live in girlfriend or third husband. That's my point.
That gets preached on, too, but it's not as controversial b/c even the people doing it know it is a sin.

My point isn't necessarily preachers. My point is people.

People like to scream about how wrong homosexuality, homos go straight to hell etc while they're having sex out of wedlock or any other thing that is a sin. Or they turn a blind eye to their loved ones doing something like that. One kid could be sleeping with a different person every day, and the other is gay, and they'd throw the gay one out.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Squeakers wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Squeakers wrote:
Maybe, but we have all seen the people who scream against homosexuality while attending church on sunday with their out of wedlock children, live in girlfriend or third husband. That's my point.
That gets preached on, too, but it's not as controversial b/c even the people doing it know it is a sin.
My point isn't necessarily preachers. My point is people.

People like to scream about how wrong homosexuality, homos go straight to hell etc while they're having sex out of wedlock or any other thing that is a sin. Or they turn a blind eye to their loved ones doing something like that. One kid could be sleeping with a different person every day, and the other is gay, and they'd throw the gay one out.

And people like that suck.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Squeakers wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Squeakers wrote:
Maybe, but we have all seen the people who scream against homosexuality while attending church on sunday with their out of wedlock children, live in girlfriend or third husband. That's my point.
That gets preached on, too, but it's not as controversial b/c even the people doing it know it is a sin.
My point isn't necessarily preachers. My point is people.

People like to scream about how wrong homosexuality, homos go straight to hell etc while they're having sex out of wedlock or any other thing that is a sin. Or they turn a blind eye to their loved ones doing something like that. One kid could be sleeping with a different person every day, and the other is gay, and they'd throw the gay one out.

Absolutely. There are lots of people living together in the Church but nobody bats an eye. But, they go apeschit over homosexuality. You are correct.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Dangerous and destructive to your soul.

huskerbb · Guru

Squeakers wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Squeakers wrote:
Maybe, but we have all seen the people who scream against homosexuality while attending church on sunday with their out of wedlock children, live in girlfriend or third husband. That's my point.
That gets preached on, too, but it's not as controversial b/c even the people doing it know it is a sin.
My point isn't necessarily preachers. My point is people.

People like to scream about how wrong homosexuality, homos go straight to hell etc while they're having sex out of wedlock or any other thing that is a sin. Or they turn a blind eye to their loved ones doing something like that. One kid could be sleeping with a different person every day, and the other is gay, and they'd throw the gay one out.

I've never said homosexuality is more egregious than any other sin--or that homosexuals are automatically doomed to he!!.

But--a couple of issues are these:

A. homosexuals don't think it is a sin, so they aren't, in general, asking forgiveness for that sin.

B. living together without being married is a sin, to be sure, but there is a convenient way to end that particular sin, and most couples that are churched get to it sooner rather than later. In fact, those couples who are churched are much less likely to do it in the first place than those who don't go to church.

Vette · Owl drink to that!

I think squeakers is spot on

Ohfour · Hooker

Squeakers is also married. So she's not cohabitating without being married...

Squeakers · Regular

Please don't.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

LBGTQ? What is the Q?

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

Isn't divorce a sin too?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Southern_Belle wrote:
Isn't divorce a sin too?

I see what you did there!

flan

Squeakers · Regular

Q is for Questioning.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

God created marriage, He did not create divorce.

But he did give a basis for divorce.

Adultery is a Biblical ground for divorce.

But yes, it should be the very last ditch thing ever.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Squeakers wrote:
Q is for Questioning.

Oh. Ok. Thank you.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Regardless of our sins, aren't we all children of God and deserve forgiveness if we ask? there is not one person on this board that has not committed a sin, and probably a really bad one. Who are we to judge? Homosexuality is a burden. I am glad I am not a lesbian, I don't think I am strong enough to deal with that inner struggle. I don't know if it should be branded as being wrong. But I do know humans that sit in judgement of sinners are more wrong than any other sinner. A pastor/priest/Reverend is no more than a human as you and I. They are not God, they are teachers, and need to know that and live that.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

lilyofcourse wrote:
God created marriage, He did not create divorce.

But he did give a basis for divorce.

Adultery is a Biblical ground for divorce.

But yes, it should be the very last ditch thing ever.

Umm marriage was created by humans to stop the spread of STDs. Adam and Eve were not married.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
God created marriage, He did not create divorce.

But he did give a basis for divorce.

Adultery is a Biblical ground for divorce.

But yes, it should be the very last ditch thing ever.

Umm marriage was created by humans to stop the spread of STDs. Adam and Eve were not married.

Sorry. No. Marriage was created by God. It used to be if a young couple had sex, they were automatically married.

From Genesis -

New International Version
and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?

New Living Translation
And he said, 'This explains why a man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife, and the two are united into one.'

English Standard Version
and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?

New American Standard Bible
and said, 'FOR THIS REASON A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER AND BE JOINED TO HIS WIFE, AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH '?

King James Bible
And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

Holman Christian Standard Bible
and He also said: "For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two will become one flesh?

International Standard Version
and said, 'That is why a man will leave his father and mother and be united with his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?

NET Bible
and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and will be united with his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And he said, “Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and shall cleave to his wife and the two of them shall be one flesh.”

GOD'S WORD® Translation
and that he said, 'That's why a man will leave his father and mother and will remain united with his wife, and the two will be one'?

Jubilee Bible 2000
And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother and shall be joined to his wife, and they shall be two in one flesh.

King James 2000 Bible
And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they two shall be one flesh?

American King James Version
And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall join to his wife: and they two shall be one flesh?

American Standard Version
and said, For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and the two shall become one flesh?

Douay-Rheims Bible
For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and they two shall be in one flesh.

Darby Bible Translation
and said, On account of this a man shall leave father and mother, and shall be united to his wife, and the two shall be one flesh?

English Revised Version
and said, For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and the twain shall become one flesh?

Webster's Bible Translation
And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they two shall be one flesh?

Weymouth New Testament
and said, For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two shall be one'?

World English Bible
and said, 'For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother, and shall join to his wife; and the two shall become one flesh?'

Young's Literal Translation
and said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and cleave to his wife, and they shall be -- the two -- for one flesh?

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

I don't profess to be a student of the bible, I studied history. And marriage was an ideal created thousands of years ago to combat disease. Perhaps I was studying a different culture at that time that adopted the christian doctrine? Who knows.

huskerbb · Guru

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
God created marriage, He did not create divorce.

But he did give a basis for divorce.

Adultery is a Biblical ground for divorce.

But yes, it should be the very last ditch thing ever.

Umm marriage was created by humans to stop the spread of STDs. Adam and Eve were not married.

BS. Adam and Eve were most certainly married. God created Eve specifically for Adam.

huskerbb · Guru

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Regardless of our sins, aren't we all children of God and deserve forgiveness if we ask? there is not one person on this board that has not committed a sin, and probably a really bad one. Who are we to judge? Homosexuality is a burden. I am glad I am not a lesbian, I don't think I am strong enough to deal with that inner struggle. I don't know if it should be branded as being wrong. But I do know humans that sit in judgement of sinners are more wrong than any other sinner. A pastor/priest/Reverend is no more than a human as you and I. They are not God, they are teachers, and need to know that and live that.

Absolutely.

However, if you don't even think what you are doing is a sin in the first place--then you aren't going to ask forgiveness for that act.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

huskerbb wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Regardless of our sins, aren't we all children of God and deserve forgiveness if we ask? there is not one person on this board that has not committed a sin, and probably a really bad one. Who are we to judge? Homosexuality is a burden. I am glad I am not a lesbian, I don't think I am strong enough to deal with that inner struggle. I don't know if it should be branded as being wrong. But I do know humans that sit in judgement of sinners are more wrong than any other sinner. A pastor/priest/Reverend is no more than a human as you and I. They are not God, they are teachers, and need to know that and live that.
Absolutely.

However, if you don't even think what you are doing is a sin in the first place--then you aren't going to ask forgiveness for that act.

Unfortunately, people spew the "word of God" to justify their own judgement on someone. It's disgusting.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

There's a Q on it now? Do we really need that? How about if we just put the whole alphabet on there to cover every possibility.

huskerbb · Guru

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Regardless of our sins, aren't we all children of God and deserve forgiveness if we ask? there is not one person on this board that has not committed a sin, and probably a really bad one. Who are we to judge? Homosexuality is a burden. I am glad I am not a lesbian, I don't think I am strong enough to deal with that inner struggle. I don't know if it should be branded as being wrong. But I do know humans that sit in judgement of sinners are more wrong than any other sinner. A pastor/priest/Reverend is no more than a human as you and I. They are not God, they are teachers, and need to know that and live that.
Absolutely.

However, if you don't even think what you are doing is a sin in the first place--then you aren't going to ask forgiveness for that act.
Unfortunately, people spew the "word of God" to justify their own judgement on someone. It's disgusting.

People who behave badly should get "judged".

EVERYONE does it. We have social mores and taboos for things that are not crimes--and a judicial system for things that are.

Should we not "judge" someone who kills someone else? Pedophiles?

-- Edited by huskerbb on Thursday 6th of November 2014 09:57:48 PM

WYSIWYG · Guru

"She didn't correct him that homosexual sex is dangerous and destructive... And right now, it's not completely untrue. Unprotected anal sex between two men is still considered riskier than heterosexual anal sex because there's still a higher instance of gay men who have HIV than straight men. But lesbian sex is the safest of them all.

A better statement would be unprotected sex is dangerous. Because it is. For gay and straight people." - Squeakers

Perfectly said.

Squeakers · Regular

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
There's a Q on it now? Do we really need that? How about if we just put the whole alphabet on there to cover every possibility.

There are a few more letters that some people tack on. I don't understand some of the sexualities people claim. Pangender, genderqueer, gender fluid, bigender. I don't really get what they are. I guess they are outside of my realm of understanding. I am not sure i buy in to them, and that probably makes me suck as a gay person because I should be more understanding of other peoples differences considering my own... but honestly I just don't understand them and I think some are created to be edgy and envelope pushing. It's just getting to be ridiculous.

But I am okay with the Q. People who are unsure if they are gay or straight could use support while figuring it out.

Squeakers · Regular

Honestly I think genderfluid is just a fancy word for a transsexual with commitment issues.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Squeakers wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
There's a Q on it now? Do we really need that? How about if we just put the whole alphabet on there to cover every possibility.
There are a few more letters that some people tack on. I don't understand some of the sexualities people claim. Pangender, genderqueer, gender fluid, bigender. I don't really get what they are. I guess they are outside of my realm of understanding. I am not sure i buy in to them, and that probably makes me suck as a gay person because I should be more understanding of other peoples differences considering my own... but honestly I just don't understand them and I think some are created to be edgy and envelope pushing. It's just getting to be ridiculous.
But I am okay with the Q. People who are unsure if they are gay or straight could use support while figuring it out.

Yes it is. It's getting downright stupid and then people don't take the "movement" seriously. At some point there needs to be an end. Do I have a problem with people getting support while figuring things out? No. Why can't the Every Letter In The Alphabet Movement just come up with one simple name? Black people don't have the light blacks and the dark blacks. I mean there could be a name for the whole movement. Would just be so much easier. I know some people who won't even try to say all the letters now because they're ever changing and you're always insulting someone if you can't remember one of the 46 letters.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

There should be an E in there for Experimented...

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I am not dealing with the issue, so I don't care how many letters they use.

flan

Squeakers · Regular

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Squeakers wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
There's a Q on it now? Do we really need that? How about if we just put the whole alphabet on there to cover every possibility.
There are a few more letters that some people tack on. I don't understand some of the sexualities people claim. Pangender, genderqueer, gender fluid, bigender. I don't really get what they are. I guess they are outside of my realm of understanding. I am not sure i buy in to them, and that probably makes me suck as a gay person because I should be more understanding of other peoples differences considering my own... but honestly I just don't understand them and I think some are created to be edgy and envelope pushing. It's just getting to be ridiculous.
But I am okay with the Q. People who are unsure if they are gay or straight could use support while figuring it out.
Yes it is. It's getting downright stupid and then people don't take the "movement" seriously. At some point there needs to be an end. Do I have a problem with people getting support while figuring things out? No. Why can't the Every Letter In The Alphabet Movement just come up with one simple name? Black people don't have the light blacks and the dark blacks. I mean there could be a name for the whole movement. Would just be so much easier. I know some people who won't even try to say all the letters now because they're ever changing and you're always insulting someone if you can't remember one of the 46 letters.

Regardless if they are light or dark black, they are still black.

Gay usually refers to men, Lesbian to women. Someone who is gay is not a bisexual. And a gay or a bisexual is not necessarily a transexual. It's not the same.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

There should still be a name for the movement. It's getting too long and just confusing. In a year there will be too many letters to even string together.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
I don't profess to be a student of the bible, I studied history. And marriage was an ideal created thousands of years ago to combat disease. Perhaps I was studying a different culture at that time that adopted the christian doctrine? Who knows.

Adam and Eve came first according to the Bible.

But even setting that aside, adopting marriage to combat disease kind of supports the whole sleeping around is bad thing.