TOTALLY GEEKED!

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

RE: Well, at least he didn't shoot him, I guess.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Most of the general public are dumber than a bag of bricks. It's the job of the police to use their discernment and judgment (to the extent they have any) to decide what merits what action.

This didn't merit anything other than POSSIBLY a short observation from a distance.
It was faster and more efficient to just talk to the man and go on to the next call. They didn't search him, they didn't do anything but TALK to him.
BS. They wouldn't have even had to get out of their car.
What's BS - that it takes more time to simply "observe" him for a while than talk to him for 2 minutes? That's dumb.
It would take FAR less time just to stay in their car and observe for a minute or two.

Observing for "a minute or two" does nothing. There had been robberies in the neighborhood and people called to report a suspicious person walking around. The police officer did nothing wrong.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Tinydancer wrote:
I think the cop did the right thing. If he got a call about someone suspicious the easiest way to find out what he's up to is to ask. I really don't get why you think the cop should do nothing. It's his job to ask when he's gotten a report of suspicious activity.

Stop making sense!

Tinydancer · Guru

So we hire cops so they can sit around and observe? A cops job IS to ASK questions. I agree there's been some pretty quick shooting in the news lately but this is not one of those. This cop did exactly as he was supposed to do. You can't have it both ways Husker...lol

burns07 · Guru

they didn't frisk him, they didn't assault him, they didn't shoot him--they asked him a few questions--nothing to see here, move along

huskerbb · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
LL, don't you know that the police are a waste of time and resources? We shouldn't even have them.

Well until some thing is going on that directly affects you and yours. Then nothing they do will be right either but they better be there.

I live in a very small neighborhood. There is one "P" shaped road. No one that doesn't live in this neighborhood, and isn't visiting someone who does, does not belong here. It may not be illegal to be in this neighborhood but they have no business here.

If someone lives anywhere long enough, they know when someone doesn't belong there.

There is ZERO indication that is the case here, even.

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
I think the cop did the right thing. If he got a call about someone suspicious the easiest way to find out what he's up to is to ask. I really don't get why you think the cop should do nothing. It's his job to ask when he's gotten a report of suspicious activity.

What was he doing that was "suspicious"? Nothing.

Also, what, do you suppose if he was up to no good he would have just said "well, gee, you caught me officer, I was going to knock over that liquor store with a gun I don't have, but I guess I won't, now." That's absurd.

huskerbb · Guru

Oh, and I don't want anything "both ways". It's not too much to ask for the cops to leave law-abiding citizens alone.

Tinydancer · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
I think the cop did the right thing. If he got a call about someone suspicious the easiest way to find out what he's up to is to ask. I really don't get why you think the cop should do nothing. It's his job to ask when he's gotten a report of suspicious activity.
What was he doing that was "suspicious"? Nothing.

Also, what, do you suppose if he was up to no good he would have just said "well, gee, you caught me officer, I was going to knock over that liquor store with a gun I don't have, but I guess I won't, now." That's absurd.

It's not absurd. If he was planning on robbing a liquor store and he's stopped by the cop do you think he continues on his merry way to do just that...lol. Now the cop knows he was a suspicious person in the area. That doesn't even make sense. By the way I didn't say he was doing anything suspicious but someone called the cops so it was suspicious to them. Once the call is placed it's the cops JOB to go find out what's going on.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
I think the cop did the right thing. If he got a call about someone suspicious the easiest way to find out what he's up to is to ask. I really don't get why you think the cop should do nothing. It's his job to ask when he's gotten a report of suspicious activity.
What was he doing that was "suspicious"? Nothing.

Also, what, do you suppose if he was up to no good he would have just said "well, gee, you caught me officer, I was going to knock over that liquor store with a gun I don't have, but I guess I won't, now." That's absurd.

Apparently - to the people who live around there, that is not the case. In MY neighborhood - any stranger walking around would be suspicious.

Scooby · Newbie

I saw this response from the Oakland County Sheriff's Department:

"There has been a great deal of discussion on the internet about a deputy talking to “a man with his hands in his pockets.” Unfortunately, this issue demonstrates one of the disadvantages of social media. Often times, individuals share things without knowing the facts and in some cases promote a specific agenda unrelated to the reality of the situation. Shocking that the internet does not tell the full picture or people use this for an agenda-right? So, here is the whole story.

The video that was posted was an edited version of the whole situation and cut out the Deputy fully explaining as to why 911 was called on him, and ended with this person agreeing that the police should respond. The 911 call received by the Oakland County Dispatch Center originated from a nearby business that had been a victim , as well as its employees, of seven robberies. The caller and his employees were concerned about the individual who had walked by the front window of the business five or six times, while looking inside with his hands in his pockets. Fearing for their safety, the business dialed 911 and the Deputy responded.

In the unedited version of the event, the individual stated that if he had called the police on a suspicious person, he would expect the police to respond, check the area, and talk to the suspicious person being called about. The Deputy did not detain or pat down the individual and considering the nature of the call responded in a very restrained and professional manner.

We will continue to take each and every call seriously at the Sheriff’s Office and hold our Deputies to the highest standards and expectations of public service."

Tinydancer · Guru

There's always 2 sides to a story. Thanks for sharing this Scooby.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Yeah. Thanks.

Glad to see it was handled appropriately.

-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Tuesday 2nd of December 2014 03:29:31 PM

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I figured as much.

huskerbb · Guru

Scooby wrote:
I saw this response from the Oakland County Sheriff's Department:

"There has been a great deal of discussion on the internet about a deputy talking to “a man with his hands in his pockets.” Unfortunately, this issue demonstrates one of the disadvantages of social media. Often times, individuals share things without knowing the facts and in some cases promote a specific agenda unrelated to the reality of the situation. Shocking that the internet does not tell the full picture or people use this for an agenda-right? So, here is the whole story.

The video that was posted was an edited version of the whole situation and cut out the Deputy fully explaining as to why 911 was called on him, and ended with this person agreeing that the police should respond. The 911 call received by the Oakland County Dispatch Center originated from a nearby business that had been a victim , as well as its employees, of seven robberies. The caller and his employees were concerned about the individual who had walked by the front window of the business five or six times, while looking inside with his hands in his pockets. Fearing for their safety, the business dialed 911 and the Deputy responded.

In the unedited version of the event, the individual stated that if he had called the police on a suspicious person, he would expect the police to respond, check the area, and talk to the suspicious person being called about. The Deputy did not detain or pat down the individual and considering the nature of the call responded in a very restrained and professional manner.

We will continue to take each and every call seriously at the Sheriff’s Office and hold our Deputies to the highest standards and expectations of public service."

Oh. So walking by a business is now a crime. Good to know. Remind me to not walk by any more businesses, especially if it's cold and I need to put my hands in my pockets.

Yeah, none of that changes a thing.

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
I think the cop did the right thing. If he got a call about someone suspicious the easiest way to find out what he's up to is to ask. I really don't get why you think the cop should do nothing. It's his job to ask when he's gotten a report of suspicious activity.
What was he doing that was "suspicious"? Nothing.

Also, what, do you suppose if he was up to no good he would have just said "well, gee, you caught me officer, I was going to knock over that liquor store with a gun I don't have, but I guess I won't, now." That's absurd.
It's not absurd. If he was planning on robbing a liquor store and he's stopped by the cop do you think he continues on his merry way to do just that...lol. Now the cop knows he was a suspicious person in the area. That doesn't even make sense. By the way I didn't say he was doing anything suspicious but someone called the cops so it was suspicious to them. Once the call is placed it's the cops JOB to go find out what's going on.

There was NOTHING "going on".

burns07 · Guru

wrong as usual, husker....

huskerbb · Guru

burns07 wrote:

wrong as usual, husker....

Ok, so what illegal activity was going on?

huskerbb · Guru

Heck, he didn't even have a weapon, so what was he going to do? Pull his d!ck out and threaten to p!ss on the floor if they didn't empty the cash register for him?

huskerbb · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
burns07 wrote:

wrong as usual, husker....

Ok, so what illegal activity was going on?

<crickets chirping>

burns has nothing. I thought as much.

cadiver · Senior Member

huskerbb wrote:
Heck, he didn't even have a weapon, so what was he going to do? Pull his d!ck out and threaten to p!ss on the floor if they didn't empty the cash register for him?

He was not searched or patted down so we are not certain he did not have a weapon.

My guess more people would be upset if he was stopped because he had an open carry weapon.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Suspicious activity. Do you even know what that means?

He acting in a way that made a previously robbed employees uncomfortable.

I've called the police before to have people checked out when they were acting suspicious in the parking lot at work. I have no problem with what happened.

It was handled appropriately.

huskerbb · Guru

cadiver wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Heck, he didn't even have a weapon, so what was he going to do? Pull his d!ck out and threaten to p!ss on the floor if they didn't empty the cash register for him?
He was not searched or patted down so we are not certain he did not have a weapon.

My guess more people would be upset if he was stopped because he had an open carry weapon.

So.....we are now to believe that the police bothered to confront this guy and didn't even make sure he didn't have a weapon????

Not only an egregious breach of his rights--but downright incompetence, to boot. The only thing worse than doing a job that didn't need to be done in the first place is doing a BAD job at it.

huskerbb · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Suspicious activity. Do you even know what that means?

He acting in a way that made a previously robbed employees uncomfortable.

I've called the police before to have people checked out when they were acting suspicious in the parking lot at work. I have no problem with what happened.

It was handled appropriately.

So fvcking what? I don't give a rat's ass if someone is "uncomfortable". That does NOT constitute a crime.

Tinydancer · Guru

You're wrong Husker. The cop was doing his job. I'm glad you're not in charge of public safety. In your world no matter what a cop does he's wrong. I think you have authority issues.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
cadiver wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Heck, he didn't even have a weapon, so what was he going to do? Pull his d!ck out and threaten to p!ss on the floor if they didn't empty the cash register for him?
He was not searched or patted down so we are not certain he did not have a weapon.

My guess more people would be upset if he was stopped because he had an open carry weapon.
So.....we are now to believe that the police bothered to confront this guy and didn't even make sure he didn't have a weapon????

Not only an egregious breach of his rights--but downright incompetence, to boot. The only thing worse than doing a job that didn't need to be done in the first place is doing a BAD job at it.

It is not a breach of anyone's rights to TALK to them.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Scooby wrote:
I saw this response from the Oakland County Sheriff's Department:

"There has been a great deal of discussion on the internet about a deputy talking to “a man with his hands in his pockets.” Unfortunately, this issue demonstrates one of the disadvantages of social media. Often times, individuals share things without knowing the facts and in some cases promote a specific agenda unrelated to the reality of the situation. Shocking that the internet does not tell the full picture or people use this for an agenda-right? So, here is the whole story.

The video that was posted was an edited version of the whole situation and cut out the Deputy fully explaining as to why 911 was called on him, and ended with this person agreeing that the police should respond. The 911 call received by the Oakland County Dispatch Center originated from a nearby business that had been a victim , as well as its employees, of seven robberies. The caller and his employees were concerned about the individual who had walked by the front window of the business five or six times, while looking inside with his hands in his pockets. Fearing for their safety, the business dialed 911 and the Deputy responded.

In the unedited version of the event, the individual stated that if he had called the police on a suspicious person, he would expect the police to respond, check the area, and talk to the suspicious person being called about. The Deputy did not detain or pat down the individual and considering the nature of the call responded in a very restrained and professional manner.

We will continue to take each and every call seriously at the Sheriff’s Office and hold our Deputies to the highest standards and expectations of public service."
Oh. So walking by a business is now a crime. Good to know. Remind me to not walk by any more businesses, especially if it's cold and I need to put my hands in my pockets.

Yeah, none of that changes a thing.

Walking by a business SEVERAL times looking in the window when it has been robbed on numerous occasions would give anyone pause. And you know what? You don't even know if the guy WAS planning to rob the store. Maybe, being talked to detered him.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

There is nothing wrong with calling Police if you see someone you believe is suspicious whether they actually are or not. There is nothing wrong with the Police riding by to check out the situation and/or to speak to that person.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Suspicious activity. Do you even know what that means?

He acting in a way that made a previously robbed employees uncomfortable.

I've called the police before to have people checked out when they were acting suspicious in the parking lot at work. I have no problem with what happened.

It was handled appropriately.
So fvcking what? I don't give a rat's ass if someone is "uncomfortable". That does NOT constitute a crime.

So you don't know what it means.

OK.

No point saying anything else.

Tinydancer · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Suspicious activity. Do you even know what that means?

He acting in a way that made a previously robbed employees uncomfortable.

I've called the police before to have people checked out when they were acting suspicious in the parking lot at work. I have no problem with what happened.

It was handled appropriately.
So fvcking what? I don't give a rat's ass if someone is "uncomfortable". That does NOT constitute a crime.

No one said he commited a crime. Just that he was acting suspicious. What do you do when you're suspicious of something? You investigate and ask questions. What is a cops job according to you. Stand around and wait for someone to commit a crime before you can ask a question...lol. This is the stupidest argument I've ever heard.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Suspicious activity. Do you even know what that means?

He acting in a way that made a previously robbed employees uncomfortable.

I've called the police before to have people checked out when they were acting suspicious in the parking lot at work. I have no problem with what happened.

It was handled appropriately.
So fvcking what? I don't give a rat's ass if someone is "uncomfortable". That does NOT constitute a crime.

Well, so FVCKING what if HE was uncomfortable having the Police ask him a couple of questions?

Tinydancer · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Suspicious activity. Do you even know what that means?

He acting in a way that made a previously robbed employees uncomfortable.

I've called the police before to have people checked out when they were acting suspicious in the parking lot at work. I have no problem with what happened.

It was handled appropriately.
So fvcking what? I don't give a rat's ass if someone is "uncomfortable". That does NOT constitute a crime.
Well, so FVCKING what if HE was uncomfortable having the Police ask him a couple of questions?

LGS you're my new board crush...lol

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

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Hooray! biggrin

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Tell me that is you.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

No, not me. I just pulled it off the internet.

Tinydancer · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

Hooray!

No really. I have to say that's the best answer I ever heard someone give to Huskers ridiculous stance about cops...lol. Using his own phrases was genius!

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Suspicious activity. Do you even know what that means?

He acting in a way that made a previously robbed employees uncomfortable.

I've called the police before to have people checked out when they were acting suspicious in the parking lot at work. I have no problem with what happened.

It was handled appropriately.
So fvcking what? I don't give a rat's ass if someone is "uncomfortable". That does NOT constitute a crime.
Well, so FVCKING what if HE was uncomfortable having the Police ask him a couple of questions?

Because there was no reason for it. It's an egregious violation of individual rights and liberties.

Were it you--you'd be upset if you were accused of committing a crime when you had done nothing wrong.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Wednesday 3rd of December 2014 06:09:39 PM

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

So the standard is that Police are only allowed to talk to someone if it leads to an arrest? Oh good to know!

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I've been questioned by police more than once for various things.

The only time I was bothered by it was when I was guilty of something.

This was handled appropriately.

Ohfour · Hooker

I've also been questioned by police. When you have nothing to hide, you just have a conversation. Cops have the right to ask a question...

Ohfour · Hooker

And he wasn't accused of anything. He was asked a question.

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
I've also been questioned by police. When you have nothing to hide, you just have a conversation. Cops have the right to ask a question...

This wasn't a "conversation". It was an accusation.

huskerbb · Guru

Prevailing attitude of this board:

Well, he was a black guy walking down the street, so really, the policeman should have shot him. However, he didn't, so this guy should be eternally grateful for that.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Oh bull. I call out police wrongdoing.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Yeah. We are all racist pigs and think any one that aint from around here oughtta be killed.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Husker sounds more and more like a whiny girl when u don't agree with him! Lol

Tinydancer · Guru

He hates it when he's wrong...

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
I've also been questioned by police. When you have nothing to hide, you just have a conversation. Cops have the right to ask a question...
This wasn't a "conversation". It was an accusation.

In huskerworld. Not in anyone else's world...

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
He hates it when he's wrong...

So I don't do that.

Tinydancer · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
He hates it when he's wrong...
So I don't do that.

Except in rare cases like this thread...lol