TOTALLY GEEKED!

ed11563 · Guru

Body cameras would keep cops and the public honest

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I think the people calling for them will be sorry. More often than not, it will clearly show the cops simply doing their job. I am all for them.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Great!

But what about the ongoing cost of them? Replacement when they get broke?

This is not a once and done price. It will be a huge drain on the police dept. funds.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

I am all for it!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

The very ones who are screaming for these cameras will then be the ones screaming and crying about their loss of privacy.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

You gotta give Obama kudos for his deep commitment to Big Brother and the Eye in the Sky type Govt control of citizens.

ed11563 · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
You gotta give Obama kudos for his deep commitment to Big Brother and the Eye in the Sky type Govt control of citizens.

What an interesting point of view you have.

I suspect that most of the people have no problem with cameras being all over the place outside in public.

And there's no reason that I've seen or read why the police shouldn't have cameras. A video is an unimpeachable witness when something goes sideways.

I wish there's been an intersection camera when I was hit broadside by a driver who ran a red light without slowing down.

I'm glad there was a camera when a similar collision happened right in front of me.

The only people I've heard of who have a legitimate reason to prevent police cameras from seeing what they're doing, are people who are breaking the law.

And of course there are people who just HATE OBAMA and anything he's in favor of, JUST BECAUSE he's in favor of it.

The "Big Brother" from the book 1984 was surveiling people inside their homes, 24/7 365. And anyone who objected would be taken away.

This is not the same.

By the way, there are ALREADY cameras all over the place outside. Most of them are in the hands of ordinary people.

The fact that no one came forward with videos of the police shooting of Michael Brown, was probably because the videos would have show that the thug WAS attacking the cop.

What part of your privacy do you think will be violated if cops wear body cameras?

Penelope · Newbie

I'm curious about the cost of body cameras vs the cost of some of the military equipment (tanks and such) being bought up by many police stations. I wonder if they could simply allocate the money differently to afford these body cams.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

Maybe they can hold fund raisers or spaghetti dinners with the proceeds going to the camera fund.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

ed11563 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
You gotta give Obama kudos for his deep commitment to Big Brother and the Eye in the Sky type Govt control of citizens.
What an interesting point of view you have.
I suspect that most of the people have no problem with cameras being all over the place outside in public.
And there's no reason that I've seen or read why the police shouldn't have cameras. A video is an unimpeachable witness when something goes sideways.
I wish there's been an intersection camera when I was hit broadside by a driver who ran a red light without slowing down.
I'm glad there was a camera when a similar collision happened right in front of me.

The only people I've heard of who have a legitimate reason to prevent police cameras from seeing what they're doing, are people who are breaking the law.
And of course there are people who just HATE OBAMA and anything he's in favor of, JUST BECAUSE he's in favor of it.
The "Big Brother" from the book 1984 was surveiling people inside their homes, 24/7 365. And anyone who objected would be taken away.
This is not the same.
By the way, there are ALREADY cameras all over the place outside. Most of them are in the hands of ordinary people.
The fact that no one came forward with videos of the police shooting of Michael Brown, was probably because the videos would have show that the thug WAS attacking the cop.

What part of your privacy do you think will be violated if cops wear body cameras?

Cameras catch a lot of things. Things in the periphery. And, cops can then film people who are NOT engaged in committing crimes. I think it is hilarious how those of you on the LEFT are perfectly happy turning over all manner of liberties to the authorities.

ed11563 · Guru

Penelope wrote:
I'm curious about the cost of body cameras vs the cost of some of the military equipment (tanks and such) being bought up by many police stations. I wonder if they could simply allocate the money differently to afford these body cams.

In some places the cameras are being paid for by "forfeiture funds", cash and property taken from criminals, including drunk drivers, whose cars are confiscated, and drug dealers whose cars and houses are confiscated then sold at auction.

I'm not aware of tanks and such being PURCHASED by local police. I thought that was used military equipment deemed "surplus" by the federal government.

ed11563 · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
You gotta give Obama kudos for his deep commitment to Big Brother and the Eye in the Sky type Govt control of citizens.
What an interesting point of view you have.
I suspect that most of the people have no problem with cameras being all over the place outside in public.
And there's no reason that I've seen or read why the police shouldn't have cameras. A video is an unimpeachable witness when something goes sideways.
I wish there's been an intersection camera when I was hit broadside by a driver who ran a red light without slowing down.
I'm glad there was a camera when a similar collision happened right in front of me.

The only people I've heard of who have a legitimate reason to prevent police cameras from seeing what they're doing, are people who are breaking the law.
And of course there are people who just HATE OBAMA and anything he's in favor of, JUST BECAUSE he's in favor of it.
The "Big Brother" from the book 1984 was surveiling people inside their homes, 24/7 365. And anyone who objected would be taken away.
This is not the same.
By the way, there are ALREADY cameras all over the place outside. Most of them are in the hands of ordinary people.
The fact that no one came forward with videos of the police shooting of Michael Brown, was probably because the videos would have show that the thug WAS attacking the cop.

What part of your privacy do you think will be violated if cops wear body cameras?

Cameras catch a lot of things. Things in the periphery. And, cops can then film people who are NOT engaged in committing crimes. I think it is hilarious how those of you on the LEFT are perfectly happy turning over all manner of liberties to the authorities.

My dash cam records a LOT of non-criminal activity. A lot of people use their cell phone cameras to record a lot of non-criminal activity. Just take a look at You Tube for MILLIONS of examples.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

It doesn't bother anyone to lose a right until they realize it is gone.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yes, but you aren't an authoritative body who can use that in a way to squash someone. Yes, you can blackmail, but the deck is stacked against citizens. The house always wins. But, I bet you were going Apeschit over Bush and the Patriot Act.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Think about this. You are having a domestic issue, say one of your kids is being unruly and you are afraid, or your spouse becomes violent. You call the police to have them removed from the house or at least calm down the situation. Your neighbor, who is a gossip, is curious as to what went on and files for the film under the right to know act. Because that is what will happen.

Tinydancer · Guru

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Think about this. You are having a domestic issue, say one of your kids is being unruly and you are afraid, or your spouse becomes violent. You call the police to have them removed from the house or at least calm down the situation. Your neighbor, who is a gossip, is curious as to what went on and files for the film under the right to know act. Because that is what will happen.

It's still worth if it stops all the he said she said. If we all know the cops have cameras then don't get caught on camera doing what you don't want the neighbor to know about. There are already so many cameras out there that most people don't even think about. Traffic cameras, atm's, convenience stores, banks, most large businesses. If you're doing something stupid these days there's probably a camera recording it already...lol

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

Tinydancer wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Think about this. You are having a domestic issue, say one of your kids is being unruly and you are afraid, or your spouse becomes violent. You call the police to have them removed from the house or at least calm down the situation. Your neighbor, who is a gossip, is curious as to what went on and files for the film under the right to know act. Because that is what will happen.
It's still worth if it stops all the he said she said. If we all know the cops have cameras then don't get caught on camera doing what you don't want the neighbor to know about. There are already so many cameras out there that most people don't even think about. Traffic cameras, atm's, convenience stores, banks, most large businesses. If you're doing something stupid these days there's probably a camera recording it already...lol

Yep, every week our PD posts photos looking to have criminals identified. The photos come from store security cameras and are usually very clear. Most criminals are identified in less than an hour. You would think they would smarten up by now.

Honeys_Mom · Mod & Permanent Board Sweetheart

Lexxy wrote:
Maybe they can hold fund raisers or spaghetti dinners with the proceeds going to the camera fund.

LOL Lexxy!!! biggrin

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I think the people calling for them will be sorry. More often than not, it will clearly show the cops simply doing their job. I am all for them.

That's not what the numbers showed. Yes, complaints were down--so that is probably due to fewer baseless complaints being filed.

However, cops beating civilians was also down a great deal, as well.

I'm in favor of them.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Of course. All freedoms will be eroded in the name of safety and security.