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by Warner Todd Huston 5 Dec 2014 834 post a comment


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 The state board overseeing high school sports in Minnesota voted overwhelmingly on Thursday to permit male-to-female transgender students to participate in girls sports. After an aborted attempt earlier this year to institute controversial new "inclusive" rules for transgender players in high school athletics, the Minnesota State High School League voted 18-1 with one abstention to endorse males identifying as females to play girls sports. 

In October, the Minnesota State High School League's board of directors voted to table the policy discussion in order to give its 500-plus members more time to give feedback on the ideas. The first time the school league gathered to consider the vote it caused a firestorm of controversy. That criticism is why the board voted to postpone consideration of the rules until now.

"The proposal," Twincities.com reported, "which has had numerous revisions over the past year, is streamlined into three categories to help member schools with eligibility determinations: transgender person, gender identity and gender expression. The policy will exist for all MSHSL member schools, but some exemptions within Minnesota statutes exist for private schools with religious affiliations."

"Part of what the league has been saying is that they need to provide guidance to have a transgender student-athlete play a sport opposite of their given sex," Autumn Leva, spokeswoman for the Minnesota Family Council told the paper. "We think that is a fair point. We just want to see some clarity without raising some of the privacy issues, religious freedom issues and the safety concerns that this policy raises. We have had a lot of good reception from public and nonpublic schools saying this is the preferred solution."

"It has been exhausting," board President Scott McCready said. "I'm pleased with the input we have received from everyone on both sides. People are passionate about it. We believe we have been open about it and transparent for over a year."

Indeed, passions on the issue are intense. After the board had announced that it was considering the transgender rules, those opposing the rules protested before the board and some even took out (see MNCPL ad in the above graphic) print ads in the Star Tribune newspaper to alert the public that such rules were being considered.

But passions weren't only inflamed from the opposition. In response to the ads, one ESPN writer who supported the rules told the Huffington Post that the newspaper ads taken out by opponents of the new transgender rules were just like ads for Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan.

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http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Sports/2014/12/04/Minnesota-School-Sports-League-to-Vote-on-New-Transgender-Rules



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OK. This doesn't bother me.

We see girls/women crossing gender lines to play male sports so I don't see why it cant work the other way.



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The shower part bothers me. Greatly.

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And that is simple.

A girl on a guys team must shower separately. This should be the same.



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Why cant HE play on the boys team?

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Why cant girls play only on the girls teams?

That doesn't bother me.

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It's not the same thing. And he is not a female. So he can play on the male team.

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Sigh. Individual shower stalls with room to change. No one sees anyone else's stuff.



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

It's not the same thing. And he is not a female. So he can play on the male team.

And a girl is not a male. She can play on the female team.

 



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Southern_Belle wrote:

Sigh. Individual shower stalls with room to change. No one sees anyone else's stuff.



-- Edited by Southern_Belle on Saturday 6th of December 2014 03:34:16 PM

 Yes, let's spend millions of taxpayer dollars to retrofit every school in the country to accommodate very, very, VERY few.



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This is stupid.

Why not just have all teams be co-ed and completely do away with most opportunities for girls to play sports?

 

Sex, gender, whatever you want to call it--is NOT a self-identified characteristic. 

 

 

Some 6'6 guy could simply claim to be a transgender and dominate the girls basketball league in a way no girl could ever accomplish the reverse. 



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huskerbb wrote:

This is stupid.

Why not just have all teams be co-ed and completely do away with most opportunities for girls to play sports?

 

Sex, gender, whatever you want to call it--is NOT a self-identified characteristic. 

 

 

Some 6'6 guy could simply claim to be a transgender and dominate the girls basketball league in a way no girl could ever accomplish the reverse. 



-- Edited by huskerbb on Saturday 6th of December 2014 05:29:19 PM

and also shower and change with the girls? 



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ed11563 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:

This is stupid.

Why not just have all teams be co-ed and completely do away with most opportunities for girls to play sports?

 

Sex, gender, whatever you want to call it--is NOT a self-identified characteristic. 

 

 

Some 6'6 guy could simply claim to be a transgender and dominate the girls basketball league in a way no girl could ever accomplish the reverse. 



-- Edited by huskerbb on Saturday 6th of December 2014 05:29:19 PM

and also shower and change with the girls? 

Exactly.  



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He is a male. Let him play on the boys team. And he can dress like a female. Why can't he play on the boys team?

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There are biological differences between boys and girls. I would have no problem with a girl being on my sons' team but yes, I would have a problem with a boy being on my daughter's team. I played Boys Little League when I was a kid. And, I was a very good female athlete. And, I did well in Little League, but I choose not to move up to the Teen League because the reality is that I would not be able to compete at that level. So, I focused my talents on basketball which I excelled at. But, yes, if you want to read sexism or some "slam" at women, then that is up to you.

Right now I am coaching a 4 -6th grade YMCA youth basketball league. And, this is a co ed league. The reality is that in mixed leagues, boys preferentially throw the ball to other boys. Boys preferentially take control of the ball and game. I dont' fault boys for that, their nature is just very competitive. However, I do not find that this type of team suits the interests of my girls in their play development. I don't like co ed leagues. And, next year, I am going to break off and only coach girls.

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Boys get a lot of glory in sports. Girls don't. Why do we have to RUIN girls sports and turn them into Co Ed? That's ridiculous. Let girls play. SHEESH.

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