According to an email sent by Vincent Scotti, vice president of post production at Columbia Tristar Motion Picture Group, four scenes that have been toned down in the edited version are as follows:
1. Control Room Finger Bite -- some editorial changes, but mainly VFX blood removal on all the finger bites, around the mouth of the Korean dude, and the head blast when he gets shot.
2. Control Room Sook Shoot Out -- some editorial changes and some VFX muzzle flashes.
3. Tank Battle Jeep Guard Crush -- some editorial changes and the removal of all blood when the guards are crushed by the tank.
4. Tank Battle Kim's death -- a clean version of Kim's Face shot (no head burning or head exploding).
Subsequent emails from Nicola Maccanico, director of Warner Bros. Italy (which is handling the film there), express the feeling that the “new version is no doubt less disturbing but at the same time the film doesn’t lose its strength,” and that they would “prefer the new version.”
An email reply from Martin Bachmann, managing director for Sony Pictures Releasing Intl. in Germany, said that they would prefer what O’Dell coined the “softer version” as well.
But an email response to O’Dell from Stephen Basil-Jones, executive vice president of Sony Pictures Releasing Intl. for Australia, New Zealand, and Northern Asia, says that they would prefer the “unedited” version and that they want to “sock it to ‘em.”
“We confirm that going with the Domestic (unedited) version will not impact on our MA 15+ rating....and thus.....we want to ‘sock it to ‘em’ and stay with the Domestic version,” wrote Basil-Jones. “Indeed, watching these again, confirmed how much we liked the film and that the scenes in question will have even more of an impact but not in a negative way. (The exploding head effect in the helicopter is funnier in the Domestic clip with the fireworks sound effect and Katy Perry song. You don’t hear the sound effect in the International cut).”
Other territories that preferred the "softer version" included Mexico, Sweden, Russia, Belgium, Brazil, and France, with Eric Brune, head of Sony Pictures Releasing Intl. in France, writing by email, "Risk is low even with the violent version, but I think it ios better not to take the risk. And, also, the violent version is, I think a little bit too much for a comedy. But I'm not the producer or the director of the movie, so if we have to release this version, we can deal with it." Meanwhile, the Netherlands and Spain opted for the "unedited" version.
This reveal is only the latest of several surrounding The Interview. According to leaked emails between Sony execs that have already been covered by the media, on June 20, co-chairman of Sony Pictures Entertainment Amy Pascal forwarded a Guardian story that day detailing North Korea’s angry response to The Interview to Jeff Blake, vice-chairman of Sony Pictures, with the message, “we need sonys name off this asap everywhere,” further requesting that the name “Sony” be stricken from as many promotional materials for the film as possible, and attempting to sell the movie as a Columbia Pictures release (a division of SPE). Sony President Michael Lynton weighed in, telling Pascal that if would be “better if seth does not do any tweeting for awhile until we sort this out.”
Furthermore, Sony drafted a list of detailed talking points for their executives while doing press for the film, which read: “This is a Columbia Pictures release and our parent company has little to no involvement in the creative direction taken.”
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I'm the Ginger Rogers of spelling...that means I'm smat.
Lesson learned in February: I don't have to keep up, I just have to keep moving!
It was posted 18 minutes ago. That's hardly old news. But, you're in the industry so I'll step back. I have no dog in this fight and you seem to need to be heard and agreed with. Carry on.
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I'm the Ginger Rogers of spelling...that means I'm smat.
Lesson learned in February: I don't have to keep up, I just have to keep moving!
It was posted 18 minutes ago. That's hardly old news. But, you're in the industry so I'll step back. I have no dog in this fight and you seem to need to be heard and agreed with. Carry on.
Do you have reading comprehension issues? Yes, that article was posted 18 minutes ago, but it is talking about emails that were leaked that were sent months ago. Emails that have nothing to do with the hack or Sony's response. Just that they changed the ending of the movie. IN JUNE.
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It was posted 18 minutes ago. That's hardly old news. But, you're in the industry so I'll step back. I have no dog in this fight and you seem to need to be heard and agreed with. Carry on.
Do you have reading comprehension issues? Yes, that article was posted 18 minutes ago, but it is talking about emails that were leaked that were sent months ago. Emails that have nothing to do with the hack or Sony's response. Just that they changed the ending of the movie. IN JUNE.
Dont talk to me like that. If you cant be civil feel free to ignore me. Or, send a pm.
-- Edited by voiceofreason on Monday 15th of December 2014 02:01:06 PM
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I'm the Ginger Rogers of spelling...that means I'm smat.
Lesson learned in February: I don't have to keep up, I just have to keep moving!
Feel free to post something newer if you have such information.
Sony is NOT responding publically. She posted leaked emails that were sent months ago. If she thinks she knows so much, she can post relevant info...
Again, if you have access to newer information, feel free to share. If you don't have such, then it doesn't exist.
I have such, I would just rather not lose my job. I'm credible, most people on this board know that I work for Sony. You don't think we aren't getting multiple emails every day about this?
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Feel free to post something newer if you have such information.
Sony is NOT responding publically. She posted leaked emails that were sent months ago. If she thinks she knows so much, she can post relevant info...
Again, if you have access to newer information, feel free to share. If you don't have such, then it doesn't exist.
I have such, I would just rather not lose my job. I'm credible, most people on this board know that I work for Sony. You don't think we aren't getting multiple emails every day about this?
Then share it, otherwise it does not exist. You are not credible if you scream vor is wrong at the top of your lungs but then refuse to back up a word you say. Either back it up, or what you say is wholly irrelevant.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Whatever. Everyone here knows I'm credible. I don't have to prove myself to you. And how would I anyway? I could post the emails, you could say I made them up. I don't lie.
I work for Sony, and know way more about this than you do. Just because in Huskerworld it doesn't exists, doesn't mean that it doesn't. You are delusional 75% of the time anyway...
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This is not what "might" happen - this is what IS happening. As retribution, they have affected the lives of thousands of Sony employees - releasing their SS numbers, their medical records, their emails. If Sony suffers for this, employees could very well lose their jobs. This is affecting US, not them.
So, by all means, continue to refuse to back down as "giving in to terrorists". Just don't forget - they are thinking we are the terrorists for making am offensive and insulting movie about killing their leader. THEY don't see it the way you do, and a MOVIE is not worth all this trouble. Especially not a stupid comedy starring Seth Rogan, ffs.
It was highly offensive ON PURPOSE, and they should apologize. If anyone did that to your precious Obama, you'd be mad (hell - I'd probably be mad just because he's OUR president whether I like him or not). Well, so are they.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Whatever. Everyone here knows I'm credible. I don't have to prove myself to you. And how would I anyway? I could post the emails, you could say I made them up. I don't lie. I work for Sony, and know way more about this than you do. Just because in Huskerworld it doesn't exists, doesn't mean that it doesn't. You are delusional 75% of the time anyway...
If you have them, post them. Simple
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Whatever. Everyone here knows I'm credible. I don't have to prove myself to you. And how would I anyway? I could post the emails, you could say I made them up. I don't lie. I work for Sony, and know way more about this than you do. Just because in Huskerworld it doesn't exists, doesn't mean that it doesn't. You are delusional 75% of the time anyway...
If you have them, post them. Simple
That is ridiculous. She is not going to post confidential employer information just to satisfy you.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Whatever. Everyone here knows I'm credible. I don't have to prove myself to you. And how would I anyway? I could post the emails, you could say I made them up. I don't lie. I work for Sony, and know way more about this than you do. Just because in Huskerworld it doesn't exists, doesn't mean that it doesn't. You are delusional 75% of the time anyway...
If you have them, post them. Simple
And possibly lose my job? No thanks. Your opinion of me means absolutely nothing. The people here I care about know that I'm not a liar. Don't believe me. I don't care.
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
Whatever. Everyone here knows I'm credible. I don't have to prove myself to you. And how would I anyway? I could post the emails, you could say I made them up. I don't lie. I work for Sony, and know way more about this than you do. Just because in Huskerworld it doesn't exists, doesn't mean that it doesn't. You are delusional 75% of the time anyway...
If you have them, post them. Simple
That is ridiculous. She is not going to post confidential employer information just to satisfy you.
THANK YOU!!!!! LOL! I mean really? It's Husker.
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
This is not what "might" happen - this is what IS happening. As retribution, they have affected the lives of thousands of Sony employees - releasing their SS numbers, their medical records, their emails. If Sony suffers for this, employees could very well lose their jobs. This is affecting US, not them.
So, by all means, continue to refuse to back down as "giving in to terrorists". Just don't forget - they are thinking we are the terrorists for making am offensive and insulting movie about killing their leader. THEY don't see it the way you do, and a MOVIE is not worth all this trouble. Especially not a stupid comedy starring Seth Rogan, ffs.
It was highly offensive ON PURPOSE, and they should apologize. If anyone did that to your precious Obama, you'd be mad (hell - I'd probably be mad just because he's OUR president whether I like him or not). Well, so are they.
Again, backing down here would be foolish. It would just encourage more such acts in the future.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Whatever. Everyone here knows I'm credible. I don't have to prove myself to you. And how would I anyway? I could post the emails, you could say I made them up. I don't lie. I work for Sony, and know way more about this than you do. Just because in Huskerworld it doesn't exists, doesn't mean that it doesn't. You are delusional 75% of the time anyway...
If you have them, post them. Simple
That is ridiculous. She is not going to post confidential employer information just to satisfy you.
I thought the hackers already posted all the information on Sony employees. Did I miss something?
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I drink coffee so I don't kill you.
I quilt so I don't kill you.
Do you see a theme?
Faith isn't something that keeps bad things from happening. Faith is what helps us get through bad things when they do happen.
Whatever. Everyone here knows I'm credible. I don't have to prove myself to you. And how would I anyway? I could post the emails, you could say I made them up. I don't lie. I work for Sony, and know way more about this than you do. Just because in Huskerworld it doesn't exists, doesn't mean that it doesn't. You are delusional 75% of the time anyway...
If you have them, post them. Simple
That is ridiculous. She is not going to post confidential employer information just to satisfy you.
Then she cannot claim any credibility.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Whatever. Everyone here knows I'm credible. I don't have to prove myself to you. And how would I anyway? I could post the emails, you could say I made them up. I don't lie. I work for Sony, and know way more about this than you do. Just because in Huskerworld it doesn't exists, doesn't mean that it doesn't. You are delusional 75% of the time anyway...
If you have them, post them. Simple
That is ridiculous. She is not going to post confidential employer information just to satisfy you.
Then she cannot claim any credibility.
Really? Then nobody can, ever. Husker isn't really employed. You don't really have adopted kids. Hell, flan can't even tell us there are any books in her library without posting proof.
That's just ridiculous.
-- Edited by Lawyerlady on Monday 15th of December 2014 03:54:01 PM
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Whatever. Everyone here knows I'm credible. I don't have to prove myself to you. And how would I anyway? I could post the emails, you could say I made them up. I don't lie. I work for Sony, and know way more about this than you do. Just because in Huskerworld it doesn't exists, doesn't mean that it doesn't. You are delusional 75% of the time anyway...
If you have them, post them. Simple
That is ridiculous. She is not going to post confidential employer information just to satisfy you.
Then she cannot claim any credibility.
Not with you, but with everyone else. And I couldn't care less about what YOU think of my credibility. You are the last person I need validation from. Everyone else here knows I'm credible. At the least the ones that matter...
-- Edited by Ohfour on Monday 15th of December 2014 03:53:31 PM
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I find Ohfour very credible. She works there so I'll take her word for it. The information may have been posted but not on here and she's smart not to put it out there.
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Whatever. Everyone here knows I'm credible. I don't have to prove myself to you. And how would I anyway? I could post the emails, you could say I made them up. I don't lie. I work for Sony, and know way more about this than you do. Just because in Huskerworld it doesn't exists, doesn't mean that it doesn't. You are delusional 75% of the time anyway...
If you have them, post them. Simple
That is ridiculous. She is not going to post confidential employer information just to satisfy you.
I thought the hackers already posted all the information on Sony employees. Did I miss something?
What Sony is doing now internally in reaction is not public knowledge.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Korea could just as easily make their own movie about taking out our president. But, they lack the media response to their junk.
IMHO, a terrorist attack effects thousands of people. We should not give in to the attack anymore then we did to 9/11. Go and get their sorry arses instead.
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I drink coffee so I don't kill you.
I quilt so I don't kill you.
Do you see a theme?
Faith isn't something that keeps bad things from happening. Faith is what helps us get through bad things when they do happen.
When I post things, people tell me I have to prove or back up my position all the time. Are you saying now that everything I post will now be taken as gospel without any verification? I don't lie, either, but that hasn't been a good enough standard in the past.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
When I post things, people tell me I have to prove or back up my position all the time. Are you saying now that everything I post will now be taken as gospel without any verification? I don't lie, either, but that hasn't been a good enough standard in the past.
You've been caught in a lie before. That makes you less credible...
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
Whatever. Everyone here knows I'm credible. I don't have to prove myself to you. And how would I anyway? I could post the emails, you could say I made them up. I don't lie. I work for Sony, and know way more about this than you do. Just because in Huskerworld it doesn't exists, doesn't mean that it doesn't. You are delusional 75% of the time anyway...
If you have them, post them. Simple
That is ridiculous. She is not going to post confidential employer information just to satisfy you.
I thought the hackers already posted all the information on Sony employees. Did I miss something?
What Sony is doing now internally in reaction is not public knowledge.
Sony can not stop what has already been done. All they can do is damage control internally.
The information is still out there and probably still assessable to those who know how to access such information.
I am very sorry you are personally affected, ohfour.
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I drink coffee so I don't kill you.
I quilt so I don't kill you.
Do you see a theme?
Faith isn't something that keeps bad things from happening. Faith is what helps us get through bad things when they do happen.
Whatever. Everyone here knows I'm credible. I don't have to prove myself to you. And how would I anyway? I could post the emails, you could say I made them up. I don't lie. I work for Sony, and know way more about this than you do. Just because in Huskerworld it doesn't exists, doesn't mean that it doesn't. You are delusional 75% of the time anyway...
If you have them, post them. Simple
That is ridiculous. She is not going to post confidential employer information just to satisfy you.
I thought the hackers already posted all the information on Sony employees. Did I miss something?
What Sony is doing now internally in reaction is not public knowledge.
Sony can not stop what has already been done. All they can do is damage control internally.
The information is still out there and probably still assessable to those who know how to access such information.
I am very sorry you are personally affected, ohfour.
Thank you, doll....
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
Korea could just as easily make their own movie about taking out our president. But, they lack the media response to their junk. IMHO, a terrorist attack effects thousands of people. We should not give in to the attack anymore then we did to 9/11. Go and get their sorry arses instead.
But they didn't. And quite frankly, if they did, they wouldn't have the worldwide reach of Sony. Sony is a very powerful entertainment conglomerate. With great power comes great responsiblity.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
When I post things, people tell me I have to prove or back up my position all the time. Are you saying now that everything I post will now be taken as gospel without any verification? I don't lie, either, but that hasn't been a good enough standard in the past.
If you posted something was happening in your office, I wouldn't sit there and say "prove it". This isn't just some media event - this is happening to people personally.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
What's really going to suck is that Sony won't cave, Seth Rogan will get his millions and at the end of the day a ton of Sony employees will be layed off because of the financial hit the studio takes.
What's really going to suck is that Sony won't cave, Seth Rogan will get his millions and at the end of the day a ton of Sony employees will be layed off because of the financial hit the studio takes.
Seth Rogan won't care.
How can anybody like him? He's gross.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Do they think people won't go see the movie? Do they think the movie will lose money? Can you help me understand the connection between the hack and people being laid off?
Btw, I'm going to see the movie when it's released.
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I'm the Ginger Rogers of spelling...that means I'm smat.
Lesson learned in February: I don't have to keep up, I just have to keep moving!
When I post things, people tell me I have to prove or back up my position all the time. Are you saying now that everything I post will now be taken as gospel without any verification? I don't lie, either, but that hasn't been a good enough standard in the past.
If you posted something was happening in your office, I wouldn't sit there and say "prove it". This isn't just some media event - this is happening to people personally.
I was told just the other day that a personal experience I had couldn't be true.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
What's really going to suck is that Sony won't cave, Seth Rogan will get his millions and at the end of the day a ton of Sony employees will be layed off because of the financial hit the studio takes.
Seth Rogan won't care.
How can anybody like him? He's gross.
Totally agree...EW!
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
When I post things, people tell me I have to prove or back up my position all the time. Are you saying now that everything I post will now be taken as gospel without any verification? I don't lie, either, but that hasn't been a good enough standard in the past.
If you posted something was happening in your office, I wouldn't sit there and say "prove it". This isn't just some media event - this is happening to people personally.
I was told just the other day that a personal experience I had couldn't be true.
By me?
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Korea could just as easily make their own movie about taking out our president. But, they lack the media response to their junk. IMHO, a terrorist attack effects thousands of people. We should not give in to the attack anymore then we did to 9/11. Go and get their sorry arses instead.
But they didn't. And quite frankly, if they did, they wouldn't have the worldwide reach of Sony. Sony is a very powerful entertainment conglomerate. With great power comes great responsiblity.
That is my point.
Korea has no influence world wide. So, they use technology to make their point. That still makes them terrorists. Or, IMHO, a whinny baby pIssy pants toddler throwing a fit. I wouldn't let a toddler control what I do, so why should our country and business's allow Korea to control them?
So what if they have nukes. They would probably blow themselves up when they launched. Yeah, I don't have much faith in their military skills, but that's because Japan CAN stop them before they reach Japan. The rest of the world would nuke Korea off the map if they launched anyway, or at least they should.
Anyway, I am NOT for giving in to terrorists, ever.
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I drink coffee so I don't kill you.
I quilt so I don't kill you.
Do you see a theme?
Faith isn't something that keeps bad things from happening. Faith is what helps us get through bad things when they do happen.
What's really going to suck is that Sony won't cave, Seth Rogan will get his millions and at the end of the day a ton of Sony employees will be layed off because of the financial hit the studio takes.
Why do you assume the film will lose money?
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Korea could just as easily make their own movie about taking out our president. But, they lack the media response to their junk. IMHO, a terrorist attack effects thousands of people. We should not give in to the attack anymore then we did to 9/11. Go and get their sorry arses instead.
But they didn't. And quite frankly, if they did, they wouldn't have the worldwide reach of Sony. Sony is a very powerful entertainment conglomerate. With great power comes great responsiblity.
That is my point.
Korea has no influence world wide. So, they use technology to make their point. That still makes them terrorists. Or, IMHO, a whinny baby pIssy pants toddler throwing a fit. I wouldn't let a toddler control what I do, so why should our country and business's allow Korea to control them?
So what if they have nukes. They would probably blow themselves up when they launched. Yeah, I don't have much faith in their military skills, but that's because Japan CAN stop them before they reach Japan. The rest of the world would nuke Korea off the map if they launched anyway, or at least they should.
Anyway, I am NOT for giving in to terrorists, ever.
I adore you!!! Whiney baby pissy pants.....perfect!!!
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I'm the Ginger Rogers of spelling...that means I'm smat.
Lesson learned in February: I don't have to keep up, I just have to keep moving!
What's really going to suck is that Sony won't cave, Seth Rogan will get his millions and at the end of the day a ton of Sony employees will be layed off because of the financial hit the studio takes.
Seth Rogan won't care.
How can anybody like him? He's gross.
All rogans films are suck feats--but they all make money. Why will this one be different?
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
What's really going to suck is that Sony won't cave, Seth Rogan will get his millions and at the end of the day a ton of Sony employees will be layed off because of the financial hit the studio takes.
Why do you assume the film will lose money?
The hit is not just about this film. Sony has a big black eye right now. They are not going to get the support they are used to...
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