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Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

RE: Powdered alcohol? Not so fast, lawmakers say

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
So what? Banks used to closed Saturdays and Sundays. Big whoop. Every business doen'st have to run 24/7 to suit you.

It's not about a business being open or not. They aren't closed because it's the law--they are closed because they CHOOSE to close. Not remotely the same thing.

I would fully support business owners CHOOSING not to sell alcohol on any damn day they want. It's not something the government needs to be involved in.

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I mean, I don't really care either way. In Pa, you can only buy at the State store and that is wine and spirits. You have to buy beer at a beer distributor. Some of the State stores are open on Sundays, but not in my town. The beer distributors are open on Sundays. But, geez, can't you go without a drop of alcohol for 24 hours?

Sure, before last night, I hadn't had any for over a week--but it depends on WHAT 24 hours it is--and I should be able to choose that.

huskerbb · Guru

Besides, they aren't banning the drinking of it, so whether one can go for 24 hours without it or not is irrelevant.

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

When I lived in Hawaii you couldn't buy alcohol between midnight and 6 am daily. I worked in a convenience store and I hated grave shift because it was a nightly ordeal. We locked the beer doors but when the bars closed everyone would stream in trying to buy more booze. The would beg, plead, try to bribe.... I hated it. I would always tell them that they aren't worth me going to jail and losing my job. One lady would come in and buy two bottles of cough syrup every night just for the alcohol.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Well, as I said, I don't care either way. We aren't much for drinking but I am not opposed to it or anything and I like to have few drinks now and then. But, I really wouldn't see it as big hardship to have to plan the day before. Maybe because I live in a small town and I don't have a lot of stores at my fingertips anyway.
Can't you order online btw?

huskerbb · Guru

How do you plan ahead for unexpected company or events?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

You can't keep a case of beer and a couple of bottles of wine around? Or, do random raves just break out at your house?

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
You can't keep a case of beer and a couple of bottles of wine around? Or, do random raves just break out at your house?

We don't keep much alcohol in the house--and it's silly to have to just because of a law that serves no legitimate purpose.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

You asked me how to prepare and I just offered a solution. But, obviously, your goal is to argue the point.

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

I have a ton of liquor in my house. I have plenty of self control. I could throw a party in a flash. I don't see what's so hard about that either.

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
You asked me how to prepare and I just offered a solution. But, obviously, your goal is to argue the point.

Of course I'm arguing the point. The point is that the law serves no purpose--nor have you come up with one.

huskerbb · Guru

Southern_Belle wrote:
I have a ton of liquor in my house. I have plenty of self control. I could throw a party in a flash. I don't see what's so hard about that either.

What does self control have to do with anything?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
You asked me how to prepare and I just offered a solution. But, obviously, your goal is to argue the point.
Of course I'm arguing the point. The point is that the law serves no purpose--nor have you come up with one.

I don't have to. It's the law right now and it doesn't bother me enough to go downtown to protest. If it does you, then by all means, call your legislator, try to get a referendum on the ballot or any number of things.

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
You asked me how to prepare and I just offered a solution. But, obviously, your goal is to argue the point.
Of course I'm arguing the point. The point is that the law serves no purpose--nor have you come up with one.

I don't have to. It's the law right now and it doesn't bother me enough to go downtown to protest. If it does you, then by all means, call your legislator, try to get a referendum on the ballot or any number of things.

It was a city law in Lincoln, and I didn't live there, so I couldn't even vote. It was a pain, though, and it contributed to drunk driving since people would simply drive out of town.

Besides that, one can oppose a law without organizing a protest over it, especially a law that makes no sense and serves no purpose.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yes I agree. But unless u are proactive it wont change. The status quo will remain.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

The easy way around these laws is make your own. Duh.

WYSIWYG · Guru

Too many to quote, so I'll just mention that I agree with every post huskerbb has made on this thread (so far, anyway).

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Yes I agree. But unless u are proactive it wont change. The status quo will remain.

Pretty much like every other issue we b!tch and moan about on this board.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I know. What a hardship to have to stockpile on Saturday!
It is a pain in the ass--and for what? NOTHING.

Sometimes you don't anticipate that you will have company on Sunday, but you'd like a bottle of wine if you do.
Sometimes you forget.
There is no legitimate reason on God's green earth that a product that is legal to buy the other six days of the week should not be available on a certain day.

{taking a deep breath}

I agree with EVERYTHING husker said.

I'm an adult and the laws here make ZERO sense.

So I can't buy a bottle of wine at a grocery on Sunday but I can at a winery? Why? Because it's an "agricultural product."

Da fuq?

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
So what? Banks used to closed Saturdays and Sundays. Big whoop. Every business doen'st have to run 24/7 to suit you.

And now banks here are open Saturday mornings.

No one is saying "every" business should be open 24/7.

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yeah, Saturday mornings. Still not open on Sundays. By God, I should be able to have a bank teller personally help me with my money on Sundays! I demand it!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Sorry but you are going to have to sell your "poor me, I am a victim of unfair blue laws" a little harder if you want me to pity your plight. lol

WYSIWYG · Guru

"Yeah, Saturday mornings. Still not open on Sundays. By God, I should be able to have a bank teller personally help me with my money on Sundays! I demand it!" - Lady Gaga Snerd

You are missing the point. It's not about public demand. It's about the right of the vendor to provide for his/her customer's requests, if he/she wants to.

Banks choose to be closed on Sundays. There's no law saying that they have to be closed. It's the bank's choice. Alcohol sales on Sunday should be the store's choice, if it's legal for them to sell it at other times (I understand that it's not legal in every state).

Lindley · Guru

Powdered alcohol sounds so nasty

WYSIWYG · Guru

I agree with you on that, Lindley. I guess some day I'll need to change my bar order to "I'll take a Scotch, neat, liquid" one day if this powdered idea takes off.

Lindley · Guru

I think it would be as tasty as tang. Ick

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

WYSIWYG wrote:
"Yeah, Saturday mornings. Still not open on Sundays. By God, I should be able to have a bank teller personally help me with my money on Sundays! I demand it!" - Lady Gaga Snerd

You are missing the point. It's not about public demand. It's about the right of the vendor to provide for his/her customer's requests, if he/she wants to.

Banks choose to be closed on Sundays. There's no law saying that they have to be closed. It's the bank's choice. Alcohol sales on Sunday should be the store's choice, if it's legal for them to sell it at other times (I understand that it's not legal in every state).

But the liquor stores don't mind being closed on Sunday. If they did, they would lobby harder to change the laws. If you ask most of them, they like the day off and don't think it would increases sales - it would just shift them.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I really don't care either way. And, there are other issues more pressing that I would rather fight the govt on.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
WYSIWYG wrote:
"Yeah, Saturday mornings. Still not open on Sundays. By God, I should be able to have a bank teller personally help me with my money on Sundays! I demand it!" - Lady Gaga Snerd

You are missing the point. It's not about public demand. It's about the right of the vendor to provide for his/her customer's requests, if he/she wants to.

Banks choose to be closed on Sundays. There's no law saying that they have to be closed. It's the bank's choice. Alcohol sales on Sunday should be the store's choice, if it's legal for them to sell it at other times (I understand that it's not legal in every state).
But the liquor stores don't mind being closed on Sunday. If they did, they would lobby harder to change the laws. If you ask most of them, they like the day off and don't think it would increases sales - it would just shift them.

So they like the day off? So what?

As a librarian, I've worked Sundays for 34 years. I realize it's not the same, but still...

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

So, close the Library on Sunday. The world will continue to spin.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I really don't care either way. And, there are other issues more pressing that I would rather fight the govt on.

I am not fighting the government. I realize IN is a bass-ackward state.

It's a stupid & unnecessary law.

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

So you could move? Who is holding you hostage?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
So you could move? Who is holding you hostage?

Kids & grandkids...but it's our choice to stay.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
So, close the Library on Sunday. The world will continue to spin.

Libraries actually care about serving their patrons. Working parents love the fact that we're open on Sunday.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
WYSIWYG wrote:
"Yeah, Saturday mornings. Still not open on Sundays. By God, I should be able to have a bank teller personally help me with my money on Sundays! I demand it!" - Lady Gaga Snerd

You are missing the point. It's not about public demand. It's about the right of the vendor to provide for his/her customer's requests, if he/she wants to.

Banks choose to be closed on Sundays. There's no law saying that they have to be closed. It's the bank's choice. Alcohol sales on Sunday should be the store's choice, if it's legal for them to sell it at other times (I understand that it's not legal in every state).
But the liquor stores don't mind being closed on Sunday. If they did, they would lobby harder to change the laws. If you ask most of them, they like the day off and don't think it would increases sales - it would just shift them.
So they like the day off? So what?
As a librarian, I've worked Sundays for 34 years. I realize it's not the same, but still...
flan

What does that have to do with the point? Obviously the library has reasons for being open on Sunday, and you are an employee there.

The point remains that liquor store owners are not lobbying to change the law so obviously they like it or it's not important enough to fight for. It was said they should be able to choose - but deciding not to lobby against the law is also a choice.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

It has nothing to do with anything. If you don't like it, then start a grassroots campaign and get the laws changed.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
It has nothing to do with anything. If you don't like it, then start a grassroots campaign and get the laws changed.

I'd rather campaign for same-sex marriage.

How many times do I have to say this? It's a stupid & antiquated law, a minor annoyance.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lindley wrote:
I think it would be as tasty as tang. Ick

~raises hand slowly~

I actually liked the taste of Tang.

flan

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
So you could move? Who is holding you hostage?

Moving to another state because yours doesn't sell alcohol on Sunday is like setting the house on fire because the bathroom needs cleaned. 😔

There are loads of laws that don't make any sense. Moving to a new state won't solve that problem!

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Mellow Momma wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
So you could move? Who is holding you hostage?
Moving to another state because yours doesn't sell alcohol on Sunday is like setting the house on fire because the bathroom needs cleaned. 😔

There are loads of laws that don't make any sense. Moving to a new state won't solve that problem!

Can I DO that? biggrin

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
It has nothing to do with anything. If you don't like it, then start a grassroots campaign and get the laws changed.
I'd rather campaign for same-sex marriage.
How many times do I have to say this? It's a stupid & antiquated law, a minor annoyance.
flan

And obviously enough people disagree that the law has not been changed.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
It has nothing to do with anything. If you don't like it, then start a grassroots campaign and get the laws changed.
I'd rather campaign for same-sex marriage.
How many times do I have to say this? It's a stupid & antiquated law, a minor annoyance.
flan
And obviously enough people disagree that the law has not been changed.

And they're all Republicans...

flan

TrudyML · Guru

I am going to sprinkle the alcohol on my grapefruit!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
So you could move? Who is holding you hostage?
Moving to another state because yours doesn't sell alcohol on Sunday is like setting the house on fire because the bathroom needs cleaned. 😔

There are loads of laws that don't make any sense. Moving to a new state won't solve that problem!

Yes, but then she can get over that one and move on to other more annoying laws! biggrin

Lindley · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Lindley wrote:
I think it would be as tasty as tang. Ick
~raises hand slowly~
I actually liked the taste of Tang.
flan

I won't hold it against you biggrin

cadiver · Senior Member

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
WYSIWYG wrote:
"Yeah, Saturday mornings. Still not open on Sundays. By God, I should be able to have a bank teller personally help me with my money on Sundays! I demand it!" - Lady Gaga Snerd

You are missing the point. It's not about public demand. It's about the right of the vendor to provide for his/her customer's requests, if he/she wants to.

Banks choose to be closed on Sundays. There's no law saying that they have to be closed. It's the bank's choice. Alcohol sales on Sunday should be the store's choice, if it's legal for them to sell it at other times (I understand that it's not legal in every state).
But the liquor stores don't mind being closed on Sunday. If they did, they would lobby harder to change the laws. If you ask most of them, they like the day off and don't think it would increases sales - it would just shift them.
So they like the day off? So what?
As a librarian, I've worked Sundays for 34 years. I realize it's not the same, but still...
flan
What does that have to do with the point? Obviously the library has reasons for being open on Sunday, and you are an employee there.
The point remains that liquor store owners are not lobbying to change the law so obviously they like it or it's not important enough to fight for. It was said they should be able to choose - but deciding not to lobby against the law is also a choice.

Depends on the county and state. In CA there are plenty of stores that are open, they just cannot sell alcohol. I am sure there are also a lot of bars that do not like kicking out a full bar at 2am.

Its a matter should the government regulate it. Everybody had a problem with New York limiting soda to 16 oz, it was too much of a hardship to buy two sodas. Here you do not have an option, you have to buy the day before.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

Lindley wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lindley wrote:
I think it would be as tasty as tang. Ick
~raises hand slowly~
I actually liked the taste of Tang.
flan
I won't hold it against you

I like grape Tang but not Orange. My mom always bought orange.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
WYSIWYG wrote:
"Yeah, Saturday mornings. Still not open on Sundays. By God, I should be able to have a bank teller personally help me with my money on Sundays! I demand it!" - Lady Gaga Snerd

You are missing the point. It's not about public demand. It's about the right of the vendor to provide for his/her customer's requests, if he/she wants to.

Banks choose to be closed on Sundays. There's no law saying that they have to be closed. It's the bank's choice. Alcohol sales on Sunday should be the store's choice, if it's legal for them to sell it at other times (I understand that it's not legal in every state).
But the liquor stores don't mind being closed on Sunday. If they did, they would lobby harder to change the laws. If you ask most of them, they like the day off and don't think it would increases sales - it would just shift them.
So they like the day off? So what?
As a librarian, I've worked Sundays for 34 years. I realize it's not the same, but still...
flan
What does that have to do with the point? Obviously the library has reasons for being open on Sunday, and you are an employee there.
The point remains that liquor store owners are not lobbying to change the law so obviously they like it or it's not important enough to fight for. It was said they should be able to choose - but deciding not to lobby against the law is also a choice.

Where in the world do you get that???? Everywhere I've seen such laws liquor establishment owners worked (or work if they have not yet been successful) hard to repeal such ridiculous laws.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

LOL! They actively lobby NOT to overturn blue laws - here's one example:

But the issue of Sunday liquor sales makes strange and powerful political bedfellows. Liquor store owners from across the state are organized by the Minnesota Licensed Beverage Association (MLBA), a powerful lobbying force at the Capitol. Mom and Pop liquor shops argue Sunday sales would force them to be open seven days a week but just stretch out same revenue they’d make over six days. Each year the MLBA joins forces with the Teamsters Joint Council 32 union and liquor industry lobbyists to squash efforts to repeal the ban.
From: http://www.minnpost.com/politics-policy/2014/01/minnesota-s-puritan-side-we-still-have-blue-laws-how-long