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RE: Two officers shot in New York.

ed11563 · Guru

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Missouri officer fatally shoots man who pulled gun two miles from Ferguson, St. Louis County police say

December 24, 2014 by THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Police try to control a crowd Wednesday, Dec.

A suburban St. Louis police officer shot and killed a man who pointed a gun at him at a gas station late Tuesday, police said.

A crowd of about 100 people were gathered early Wednesday at the scene in Berkeley, Missouri, a few miles from Ferguson, where a white police officer fatally shot black 18-year-old Michael Brown in August.

According to a statement from St. Louis County police spokesman Sgt. Brian Schellman, a Berkeley police officer was conducting a routine business check at a gas station around 11:15 p.m. Tuesday when he saw two men and approached them.

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One of the men pulled a handgun and pointed it at the officer, Schellman said. The officer fired several shots, striking and fatally wounding the man.

The second man fled, and the dead man's handgun has been recovered, according to Schellman.

The St. Louis County Police Department is handling the investigation, and no further details about the incident were immediately available.

Authorities did not immediately identify the man who was shot. But the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported that a woman at the scene, Toni Martin, said he was her son, 18-year-old Antonio Martin.

Toni Martin told the newspaper that her son was with his girlfriend at the time of the shooting.

The protesters who gathered early Wednesday milled around the gas pumps at the station, some taunting and yelling at police officers.

Some had strands of yellow police-line tape draped around their neck, with others using it as a headband.

Authorities from multiple agencies, some in riot gear, stood among the protesters.

Across the street, another gas station's glass doors were shattered, and police were standing outside the door, turning people away.

Orlando Brown, 36, of nearby St. Charles was among the protesters. He said he didn't have all the details about the shooting but said he wondered if it was a case of police aggression.

"I understand police officers have a job and have an obligation to go home to their families at the end of the night," he said. "But do you have to treat every situation with lethal force? ... It's not a racial issue, or black or white. It's wrong or right."

Brown said he was pepper-sprayed during the protest as police tried to separate him from a friend whose hand he was holding. He said his friend was arrested for failing to disperse.

Neither Schellman nor Berkeley police could immediately confirm that pepper spray was used or that arrests were made. Photos from the scene showed authorities scuffling with at least a few protesters.

Brown's death led to weeks of protests and some looting in the St. Louis area, actions that were renewed last month when a grand jury chose not to indict Officer Darren Wilson.

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burns07 · Guru

well, what do you really expect ? blacks seem to think that with brown's death ( a clear-cut case of self-defense ) and garner's death ( which, to me at least, is still a bit obscure ) they've got carte blanche to do whatever the hell they want ( riot, loot, mug, threaten police officers with deadly weapons, etc. ) and that obama / holder / sharpton, et al will absolve them of any wrongdoing and the the media will do the same

if there were any leadership in this country, which there's not, they would condemn this violence at once

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

burns07 wrote:

well, what do you really expect ? blacks seem to think that with brown's death ( a clear-cut case of self-defense ) and garner's death ( which, to me at least, is still a bit obscure ) they've got carte blanche to do whatever the hell they want ( riot, loot, mug, threaten police officers with deadly weapons, etc. ) and that obama / holder / sharpton, et al will absolve them of any wrongdoing and the the media will do the same

if there were any leadership in this country, which there's not, they would condemn this violence at once

And THAT will solve the problem?

confuse

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
burns07 wrote:

well, what do you really expect ? blacks seem to think that with brown's death ( a clear-cut case of self-defense ) and garner's death ( which, to me at least, is still a bit obscure ) they've got carte blanche to do whatever the hell they want ( riot, loot, mug, threaten police officers with deadly weapons, etc. ) and that obama / holder / sharpton, et al will absolve them of any wrongdoing and the the media will do the same

if there were any leadership in this country, which there's not, they would condemn this violence at once
And THAT will solve the problem?
flan

It's his responsibility to try. Damn, he can come out and discuss the Sony issue, but not the vicious murder of cops. Ridiculous.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

When the president basically rubber stamps the riots over the thug that was killed but he remains silent over these officers, well, he isn't much of a leader. A very poor example indeed.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

flan327 wrote:
burns07 wrote:

well, what do you really expect ? blacks seem to think that with brown's death ( a clear-cut case of self-defense ) and garner's death ( which, to me at least, is still a bit obscure ) they've got carte blanche to do whatever the hell they want ( riot, loot, mug, threaten police officers with deadly weapons, etc. ) and that obama / holder / sharpton, et al will absolve them of any wrongdoing and the the media will do the same

if there were any leadership in this country, which there's not, they would condemn this violence at once
And THAT will solve the problem?
flan

He is obviously NOT the President of all the people. He picks and chooses his winners and losers. He picked and choose companies that were "too big to fail" and got cash awards while others fell by the wayside. He sticks his nose into these situations to try to imprint his own agenda. Then, when the agenda falls through, he steps back and let's chaos reign. In all his years in office, the ONLY person that Obama cares about is Barack Obama. It's all about him and has only been about him since day 1. I have never seen a more narcisstic person in office before. He interprets EVERY situation as being personally all about him. America be damned.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I don't know what Obama is thinking. Obviously y'all do.

Congratulations!

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Flan. His silence speaks volumes.

Only a complete idiot would not see it.

Tinydancer · Guru

Ok lily I think that was over the line. Disagree with flans' politics all you want but saying only a complete idiot would not see it is a cowardly argument. Obviously there was a majority of people who voted that the President would do what was right. Until enough people realize the damage done shutting down the discussion with insults only ensures that we continue down the same path.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Tinydancer wrote:
Ok lily I think that was over the line. Disagree with flans' politics all you want but saying only a complete idiot would not see it is a cowardly argument. Obviously there was a majority of people who voted that the President would do what was right. Until enough people realize the damage done shutting down the discussion with insults only ensures that we continue down the same path.

I expect nothing more (or less) from Lily...

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

I don't think insulting her back helps either. I'm pretty sure you and lily will never have an honest discussion. It's a shame but I can still hope that you both might learn something from each other in spite of yourselves...lol

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Tinydancer wrote:
I don't think insulting her back helps either. I'm pretty sure you and lily will never have an honest discussion. It's a shame but I can still hope that you both might learn something from each other in spite of yourselves...lol

Fair enough.

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Tinydancer wrote:
Ok lily I think that was over the line. Disagree with flans' politics all you want but saying only a complete idiot would not see it is a cowardly argument. Obviously there was a majority of people who voted that the President would do what was right. Until enough people realize the damage done shutting down the discussion with insults only ensures that we continue down the same path.

I don't think so.

Cowardly is thinking it but not having the guts to say it.

And it isn't aimed at anyone in particular.

If anyone takes it personally, that is on them.

Our wonderful president has done nothing to denounce the violence. If anyone cant see he just don't care they are an idiot and purposefully sticking their head in the sand.

Tinydancer · Guru

I just want to rub those suds into your head because that avatar is so darn cute...lol

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Tinydancer wrote:
I just want to rub those suds into your head because that avatar is so darn cute...lol

Wait in line...LOL

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Ok lily I think that was over the line. Disagree with flans' politics all you want but saying only a complete idiot would not see it is a cowardly argument. Obviously there was a majority of people who voted that the President would do what was right. Until enough people realize the damage done shutting down the discussion with insults only ensures that we continue down the same path.
I don't think so.
Cowardly is thinking it but not having the guts to say it.
And it isn't aimed at anyone in particular.
If anyone takes it personally, that is on them.
Our wonderful president has done nothing to denounce the violence. If anyone cant see he just don't care they are an idiot and purposefully sticking their head in the s

That was in direct answer to flans post so don't pretend it wasn't. It is cowardly to just call names and not give a real argument. Just because you say it doesn't make you right. When you're argument is "no you're stupid" it's not a real argument.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

If I had said "Flan you are an idiot" I would agree.

I did not.

I don't need you to correct me.

I made a broad statement. It was not directed at anyone in particular.

Now if you want to talk to someone about calling names, Flan is the one who likes to call people ugly names. Directly and then act like she is the victim.

Look. It is Christmas eve. I am not going to spend the evening in an argument.

So truce for now.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
I don't know what Obama is thinking. Obviously y'all do.

Congratulations!

flan

I don't give a damn what he is thinking. I only care what he DOES as the leader of this country. His lack of leadership is apparent in his choices every day.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I don't know what Obama is thinking. Obviously y'all do.

Congratulations!

flan
I don't give a damn what he is thinking. I only care what he DOES as the leader of this country. His lack of leadership is apparent in his choices every day.

Get back to me when you're elected President, okay?

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
If I had said "Flan you are an idiot" I would agree.

I did not.

I don't need you to correct me.

I made a broad statement. It was not directed at anyone in particular.

Now if you want to talk to someone about calling names, Flan is the one who likes to call people ugly names. Directly and then act like she is the victim.

Look. It is Christmas eve. I am not going to spend the evening in an argument.

So truce for now.

I wasn't correcting you and you're right that it is Christmas Eve and there should be a truce but it's not between you and me lily. Even if you weren't calling flan a complete idiot it's even worse that you call a whole anonymous group a bunch of complete idiots. My point was that using insults shuts the conversation right down. Merry Christmas lily.

-- Edited by Tinydancer on Wednesday 24th of December 2014 07:50:30 PM

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I don't know what Obama is thinking. Obviously y'all do.

Congratulations!

flan
I don't give a damn what he is thinking. I only care what he DOES as the leader of this country. His lack of leadership is apparent in his choices every day.
Get back to me when you're elected President, okay?
flan

So, I'm not allowed to have an opinion about MY president? That's absolute crap. And it's because you have no other defense for him that you resort to such tripe statements.

WYSIWYG · Guru

I'm going to skip the Obama sidestep (even though I agree with Lawyerlady's and lilyofcourse's take on Obama's reaction), and comment on ed11563's post about the new shooting:

I'm sorry but I don't feel bad that the kid got shot (I do feel bad for the cop, that he had to shoot him though). What was he expecting when he pulled a gun on a cop? Did he expect the cop to give him a ride home? If you point a gun at a cop, you should expect to get shot.

ed11563 · Guru

WYSIWYG wrote:
I'm going to skip the Obama sidestep (even though I agree with Lawyerlady's and lilyofcourse's take on Obama's reaction), and comment on ed11563's post about the new shooting:

I'm sorry but I don't feel bad that the kid got shot (I do feel bad for the cop, that he had to shoot him though). What was he expecting when he pulled a gun on a cop? Did he expect the cop to give him a ride home? If you point a gun at a cop, you should expect to get shot.

YES. That's the point all the protesters keep ignoring.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

ed11563 wrote:
WYSIWYG wrote:
I'm going to skip the Obama sidestep (even though I agree with Lawyerlady's and lilyofcourse's take on Obama's reaction), and comment on ed11563's post about the new shooting:

I'm sorry but I don't feel bad that the kid got shot (I do feel bad for the cop, that he had to shoot him though). What was he expecting when he pulled a gun on a cop? Did he expect the cop to give him a ride home? If you point a gun at a cop, you should expect to get shot.
YES. That's the point all the protesters keep ignoring.

And they will CONTINUE to ignore it, because their agenda furthers the racial divide.

flan

ed11563 · Guru

flan327 wrote:
their agenda furthers the racial divide.
flan

I hadn't thought of it exactly like that.

I think of it more as "I'm entitled, you owe me, because the whole world is against me, the deck is stacked against me, because of the color of my ..."

Oh, right. Got it.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

ed11563 wrote:
flan327 wrote:
their agenda furthers the racial divide.
flan
I hadn't thought of it exactly like that.
I think of it more as "I'm entitled, you owe me, because the whole world is against me, the deck is stacked against me, because of the color of my ..."

Oh, right. Got it.

That's part of it too, ed.

Entitled to loot & steal...

flan