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DEAR ABBY: I have an 11-month-old son. When I was pregnant, I felt I had a great relationship with my mom. She seemed excited about becoming a grandma for the first time, but once my son was born she stayed away for two weeks. When she finally came over, it was only because she happened to be in town for a meeting.

When we met for lunch, she seemed uncomfortable around the baby. I feel hurt that she doesn't seem "into" him or being a grandma. I'm sad she's missing out on so much, but I don't know if I should tell her how I feel. I don't want her to change only because I said something. I'd like her to want to visit.

Should I say something to her, or let it be and continue feeling resentment toward her? -- DISAPPOINTED NEW MOM

DEAR DISAPPOINTED: Please try to curb your resentment until after you have discussed this with your mother, which is necessary in light of the fact that you have always had a good relationship with her.

In the weeks after your son was born, she may have been trying to give you space and time to bond with your newborn. She may also be busy, or uncomfortable around babies and toddlers who can't yet communicate. Believe it or not, some people -- even grandparents -- feel that way, although they are hesitant to admit it.

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How far away does Grandma live? Is it difficult for her to travel? Is she afraid of giving the baby some communicable illness?

Is she getting weak, and might be afraid of dropping the baby?

Maybe she knows she can't hold her tongue, and would give advice that's not wanted?

 

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I know people are like that. My own in-laws were. They should not be forced to have a relationship with their grands. But they should not expect one when they are older, either.

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Mom shouldn't assume it has anything to do with the child. She needs to find out if something is going in in Gma's life that could cause this.

And some people don't like being around babies. They are noisy and messy.

Perhaps Gma feels she raised her kids, now mom can raise her own.

And we don't know what the mom has done in the past. Does she have a habit of putting things on others? I love my daughter's friend but she has a very bad habit of just dropping her kid in someone's lap and walking away.

We don't know everything. But I doubt everything was rosy before the baby.

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I agree that we aren't being given the whole story.

Has the daughter invited mom over? Maybe mom was just giving her space, letting them bond. She should definitely talk to her mom about it rather than say nothing and be resentful.

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I know people are like that. My own in-laws were. They should not be forced to have a relationship with their grands. But they should not expect one when they are older, either.


 

 

You can't force a relationship that isn't there--but if grandma is wondering in 15 years why her teenage grandchildren don't seem to have a relationship with her, this is why.

 

It works both ways.  Mom can't force grandma to have a relationship with the grandchild if she doesn't want to--but grandma can't force the grandchildren to do so, either, when they get older. 



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Mom shouldn't assume it has anything to do with the child. She needs to find out if something is going in in Gma's life that could cause this.

And some people don't like being around babies. They are noisy and messy.

Perhaps Gma feels she raised her kids, now mom can raise her own.

And we don't know what the mom has done in the past. Does she have a habit of putting things on others? I love my daughter's friend but she has a very bad habit of just dropping her kid in someone's lap and walking away.

We don't know everything. But I doubt everything was rosy before the baby.


 That could be, too.  It would seem odd if they had such a good relationship before that it would be this way, now.



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Oh my, this sounds familiar. My mom is an uninvolved grandmother. She is a great mother, but she never had much interest in any of her grandchildren, ever.
She didn't visit a single one of us after our children were born for weeks. She would hold them briefly and that was about it.
It's not that she doesn't love her grandchildren, it's that she was done raising five and had no interest in becoming active in her grandchildren's lives.
Neither of my parents attended a single baseball game or any game for that matter, even when the game was played within blocks of their home.
They only visited us or one of the other kids during holidays. No special trips made outside of the holidays.
My mom has always been a grandmother in name only. She loved to show pictures to her friends, but none of our kids ever met her friends.
I take after my dad's mom. She was a very involved grandmother and I loved her dearly. I wanted to be like her.
I think my mom missed a lot with her grandchildren, but it doesn't seem to matter to her. It is what it is.
IMHO, things will not change for the OP. Better to accept it now and move forward then to dwell on what is lost. She can't change her mom and if she does have a good relationship with her mom, that will not change. She needs to accept her mom for the way she is and maybe be a bit more encouraging. It might help, but it might not.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

Mom shouldn't assume it has anything to do with the child. She needs to find out if something is going in in Gma's life that could cause this.

And some people don't like being around babies. They are noisy and messy.

Perhaps Gma feels she raised her kids, now mom can raise her own.

And we don't know what the mom has done in the past. Does she have a habit of putting things on others? I love my daughter's friend but she has a very bad habit of just dropping her kid in someone's lap and walking away.

We don't know everything. But I doubt everything was rosy before the baby.


  I agree that she needs to step back and really LISTEN to what her mom is saying.  Maybe her mom is having some personal issues and feels short tempered and doesn't want to be around a baby?  Maybe she thinks her daughter is going to try to force her into full time babysitting?  Or, maybe she finally has developed her own life and is just preoccupied right now.  Hard to tell.  But, she needs to take a deep breath and let it be.



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I think we expect a lot more of grandparents now. My grandma and grandpa were always very loving and kind. And, we would go there on Holidays and grandma would do the big feast. But ,when I was growing up, nobody really expected grandparents to be attending ball games or babysitting. That was a rare thing. Now, grandparents are expected to take a much more active role. And, that is fine if they choose to. Or, sometimes there are health issues that makes being around children too taxing.

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From the outside looking in, I'm an uninvolved gramma. There are way too many complicated dynamics to explain. But, I took my leave when two of my daughters practically had me packed up and moved in as their live in nanny. I cut bait after that. No, I won't capitulate to guilt. One of my daughters expected me to move in with her 6 months after I married Mr.VoR. uhm, no. Sorry if that means I don't have the granny relationship they want, but they ****ed it up. I'll make my calls, send the money, and miss the traditions.

Maybe the gramma in this letter doesn't want the pressure of being an involved gramma.

And why don't people just talk to each other? Criminy, I told my kids exactly what I thought. They accept it.

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I think we expect a lot more of grandparents now. My grandma and grandpa were always very loving and kind. And, we would go there on Holidays and grandma would do the big feast. But ,when I was growing up, nobody really expected grandparents to be attending ball games or babysitting. That was a rare thing. Now, grandparents are expected to take a much more active role. And, that is fine if they choose to. Or, sometimes there are health issues that makes being around children too taxing.


 Two thumbs up Diva.  This makes sense.



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I just learned that when Mr. FNW was 5 and his sister was 6 they each received coal in their stocking. They had a few gifts that year, but the coal. I can't imagine doing that to a child.

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We give our kids "coal" in their stockings every year. It's really chocolate in the shape of coal or gum in the shape of coal but it's in a burlap bag labeled coal. I always told my kids that they got it because they WEREN'T perfect kids and they needed to be reminded to continue to behave all year round. As they got older they looked for the coal. It was a tradition. The first year I got married SS got all the traditional things in his stocking too. He cried when he got the coal. Then my kids explained it to him. He was fine when he found out it was candy. But it's not like that's all he got either. His stocking is always filled with candy and little toys.

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About 6 years ago, maybe more, I gave my nephew a great big box of sticks and rocks.

He was constantly talking about what he was getting and wanted to know what I was getting him and pretty much demanding things. It became extremely annoying. I finally told him I was giving him a box of stick and rocks.

He tried to laugh it off but then he went into this whining mode.

So, when it came time to give him his gift, I had gotten a box bigger than everyone else's gift and filled it with sticks and rocks and wrapped it and made him wait until everyone else had opened their gifts.

He would not stop talking about how big his gift was and how much better it was going to be than any one else's.

He opened that box and nearly cried. He just blinked and stood there with his hand out and couldn't believe he actually got sticks and rocks.

After he calmed down I gave him his real gift. He got an Ipod.

Now, when he starts that brat behavior I can bring up the sticks and rocks and he will usually stop.

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FNW wrote:

I just learned that when Mr. FNW was 5 and his sister was 6 they each received coal in their stocking. They had a few gifts that year, but the coal. I can't imagine doing that to a child.


 So she has always been a witch...no

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About 6 years ago, maybe more, I gave my nephew a great big box of sticks and rocks.

He was constantly talking about what he was getting and wanted to know what I was getting him and pretty much demanding things. It became extremely annoying. I finally told him I was giving him a box of stick and rocks.

He tried to laugh it off but then he went into this whining mode.

So, when it came time to give him his gift, I had gotten a box bigger than everyone else's gift and filled it with sticks and rocks and wrapped it and made him wait until everyone else had opened their gifts.

He would not stop talking about how big his gift was and how much better it was going to be than any one else's.

He opened that box and nearly cried. He just blinked and stood there with his hand out and couldn't believe he actually got sticks and rocks.

After he calmed down I gave him his real gift. He got an Ipod.

Now, when he starts that brat behavior I can bring up the sticks and rocks and he will usually stop.


 Wow...

I don't know which is worse: that you played a trick on a child or that you're so proud of having done it...

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lilyofcourse wrote:

About 6 years ago, maybe more, I gave my nephew a great big box of sticks and rocks.

He was constantly talking about what he was getting and wanted to know what I was getting him and pretty much demanding things. It became extremely annoying. I finally told him I was giving him a box of stick and rocks.

He tried to laugh it off but then he went into this whining mode.

So, when it came time to give him his gift, I had gotten a box bigger than everyone else's gift and filled it with sticks and rocks and wrapped it and made him wait until everyone else had opened their gifts.

He would not stop talking about how big his gift was and how much better it was going to be than any one else's.

He opened that box and nearly cried. He just blinked and stood there with his hand out and couldn't believe he actually got sticks and rocks.

After he calmed down I gave him his real gift. He got an Ipod.

Now, when he starts that brat behavior I can bring up the sticks and rocks and he will usually stop.


 Wow...

I don't know which is worse: that you played a trick on a child or that you're so proud of having done it...

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I don't see anything wrong with it if he was acting like a brat.  Good lesson to learn--you get what you deserve, bad or good. 

 

But, I guess I'm in the camp of making kids responsible and accountable for their behavior.  I suppose some are not. 

 

 



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Well, if he is a spoiled brat, then to turn around and buy him an Ipod?

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However, I don't think it is her job to unspoil her nephew per se unless the parents were in on it.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

Well, if he is a spoiled brat, then to turn around and buy him an Ipod?


 THANK YOU!

It's not a board game or Lego set!

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flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

About 6 years ago, maybe more, I gave my nephew a great big box of sticks and rocks.

He was constantly talking about what he was getting and wanted to know what I was getting him and pretty much demanding things. It became extremely annoying. I finally told him I was giving him a box of stick and rocks.

He tried to laugh it off but then he went into this whining mode.

So, when it came time to give him his gift, I had gotten a box bigger than everyone else's gift and filled it with sticks and rocks and wrapped it and made him wait until everyone else had opened their gifts.

He would not stop talking about how big his gift was and how much better it was going to be than any one else's.

He opened that box and nearly cried. He just blinked and stood there with his hand out and couldn't believe he actually got sticks and rocks.

After he calmed down I gave him his real gift. He got an Ipod.

Now, when he starts that brat behavior I can bring up the sticks and rocks and he will usually stop.


 Wow...

I don't know which is worse: that you played a trick on a child or that you're so proud of having done it...

flan


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I don't see anything wrong with it if he was acting like a brat.  Good lesson to learn--you get what you deserve, bad or good. 

 

But, I guess I'm in the camp of making kids responsible and accountable for their behavior.  I suppose some are not. 

 

 


 I'm in the camp of TALKING to a child and explaining WHY his behavior is unacceptable.

And PLEASE tell me, if he was a "brat," why give him an expensive present?

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I think it's funny. She told him that's what he was getting and he continued to act like an entitled brat. It wasn't a trick just because he didn't believe her.

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huskerbb wrote:
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lilyofcourse wrote:

About 6 years ago, maybe more, I gave my nephew a great big box of sticks and rocks.

He was constantly talking about what he was getting and wanted to know what I was getting him and pretty much demanding things. It became extremely annoying. I finally told him I was giving him a box of stick and rocks.

He tried to laugh it off but then he went into this whining mode.

So, when it came time to give him his gift, I had gotten a box bigger than everyone else's gift and filled it with sticks and rocks and wrapped it and made him wait until everyone else had opened their gifts.

He would not stop talking about how big his gift was and how much better it was going to be than any one else's.

He opened that box and nearly cried. He just blinked and stood there with his hand out and couldn't believe he actually got sticks and rocks.

After he calmed down I gave him his real gift. He got an Ipod.

Now, when he starts that brat behavior I can bring up the sticks and rocks and he will usually stop.


 Wow...

I don't know which is worse: that you played a trick on a child or that you're so proud of having done it...

flan


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I don't see anything wrong with it if he was acting like a brat.  Good lesson to learn--you get what you deserve, bad or good. 

 

But, I guess I'm in the camp of making kids responsible and accountable for their behavior.  I suppose some are not. 

 

 


It isn't her job to parent her nephew. His behavior is something his parents should have addressed, not Lily.  



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I deal with bratty behavior as it occurs. Not on Christmas Day. That's just mean and horrible.

We are a coal-free home, candy or otherwise.

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Well, I think it could be funny, depending on the circumstances and as long as the parents were in on it.

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flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

About 6 years ago, maybe more, I gave my nephew a great big box of sticks and rocks.

He was constantly talking about what he was getting and wanted to know what I was getting him and pretty much demanding things. It became extremely annoying. I finally told him I was giving him a box of stick and rocks.

He tried to laugh it off but then he went into this whining mode.

So, when it came time to give him his gift, I had gotten a box bigger than everyone else's gift and filled it with sticks and rocks and wrapped it and made him wait until everyone else had opened their gifts.

He would not stop talking about how big his gift was and how much better it was going to be than any one else's.

He opened that box and nearly cried. He just blinked and stood there with his hand out and couldn't believe he actually got sticks and rocks.

After he calmed down I gave him his real gift. He got an Ipod.

Now, when he starts that brat behavior I can bring up the sticks and rocks and he will usually stop.


 Wow...

I don't know which is worse: that you played a trick on a child or that you're so proud of having done it...

flan


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I don't see anything wrong with it if he was acting like a brat.  Good lesson to learn--you get what you deserve, bad or good. 

 

But, I guess I'm in the camp of making kids responsible and accountable for their behavior.  I suppose some are not. 

 

 


 I'm in the camp of TALKING to a child and explaining WHY his behavior is unacceptable.

And PLEASE tell me, if he was a "brat," why give him an expensive present?

flan


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Well, if he is a spoiled brat, then to turn around and buy him an Ipod?


"Spoiled brat"????

 

Who said anything of the sort?

 

One can exhibit bratty behavior without being "spoiled".  



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lilyofcourse wrote:

About 6 years ago, maybe more, I gave my nephew a great big box of sticks and rocks.

He was constantly talking about what he was getting and wanted to know what I was getting him and pretty much demanding things. It became extremely annoying. I finally told him I was giving him a box of stick and rocks.

He tried to laugh it off but then he went into this whining mode.

So, when it came time to give him his gift, I had gotten a box bigger than everyone else's gift and filled it with sticks and rocks and wrapped it and made him wait until everyone else had opened their gifts.

He would not stop talking about how big his gift was and how much better it was going to be than any one else's.

He opened that box and nearly cried. He just blinked and stood there with his hand out and couldn't believe he actually got sticks and rocks.

After he calmed down I gave him his real gift. He got an Ipod.

Now, when he starts that brat behavior I can bring up the sticks and rocks and he will usually stop.


 Wow...

I don't know which is worse: that you played a trick on a child or that you're so proud of having done it...

flan


You a problem with any kind of corrective action towards a kid.

He learned a valuable lesson. It has stuck with him.

I don't care if you approve or not.

A practical joke that teaches a valuable lesson is a good thing.

 



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flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

About 6 years ago, maybe more, I gave my nephew a great big box of sticks and rocks.

He was constantly talking about what he was getting and wanted to know what I was getting him and pretty much demanding things. It became extremely annoying. I finally told him I was giving him a box of stick and rocks.

He tried to laugh it off but then he went into this whining mode.

So, when it came time to give him his gift, I had gotten a box bigger than everyone else's gift and filled it with sticks and rocks and wrapped it and made him wait until everyone else had opened their gifts.

He would not stop talking about how big his gift was and how much better it was going to be than any one else's.

He opened that box and nearly cried. He just blinked and stood there with his hand out and couldn't believe he actually got sticks and rocks.

After he calmed down I gave him his real gift. He got an Ipod.

Now, when he starts that brat behavior I can bring up the sticks and rocks and he will usually stop.


 Wow...

I don't know which is worse: that you played a trick on a child or that you're so proud of having done it...

flan


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I don't see anything wrong with it if he was acting like a brat.  Good lesson to learn--you get what you deserve, bad or good. 

 

But, I guess I'm in the camp of making kids responsible and accountable for their behavior.  I suppose some are not. 

 

 


It isn't her job to parent her nephew. His behavior is something his parents should have addressed, not Lily.  


 Actually it is. You see I have spent the most time doing the heavy lifting of raising him when he is here. I have them 98% of the time.

I have permission to discipline my brothers kids any way I see fit.

My brother has the permission to discipline my kids any way he sees fit.

My parents have permission to discipline both our kids any way they see fit.

You see we are a family. Each of us are responsible for each other.

 



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And the box of sticks and rocks were not about punishment.

It was a practical joke meant to teach a practical lesson. It did that in a comical way. No one got hurt. No one was embarrassed. No one lost anything. It was a simple way to teach a valuable life lesson.



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

Well, if he is a spoiled brat, then to turn around and buy him an Ipod?


"Spoiled brat"????

 

Who said anything of the sort?

 

One can exhibit bratty behavior without being "spoiled".  


 Go create a phony argument with someone else.  Not playing with ya.  Thanks so much!



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

Well, if he is a spoiled brat, then to turn around and buy him an Ipod?


"Spoiled brat"????

 

Who said anything of the sort?

 

One can exhibit bratty behavior without being "spoiled".  


 Go create a phony argument with someone else.  Not playing with ya.  Thanks so much!


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"It isn't her job to parent her nephew. His behavior is something his parents should have addressed.  "

The key word here is "should".  When the parents, for whatever reason, fail to teach or control their kid's bad behavior,

then "My House, My Rules" applies.

 

My brother's eldest was a terror whenever he was with his parents. His mom would yell at him and threaten him, which invariably made him smile and escalate. My brother would completely ignore him.

At my house, when his parents were not present, he was a smart, happy, well behaved little boy.

When the parents can't or won't step up, some other responsible adult has to. At least Lily didn't use the stick and stones to break his bones.

 



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My parents have permission to discipline my children as they see fit as well. I expect my children to be good and respectful when they are with them, and if they are not, my parents may do what they need to keep them in line. But I also know that my parents will never hurt them, humiliate or disparage them.

Animals are trained. Children are taught. Bad acts have their consequences, and they "learn" those as well.

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About 6 years ago, maybe more, I gave my nephew a great big box of sticks and rocks.

He was constantly talking about what he was getting and wanted to know what I was getting him and pretty much demanding things. It became extremely annoying. I finally told him I was giving him a box of stick and rocks.

He tried to laugh it off but then he went into this whining mode.

So, when it came time to give him his gift, I had gotten a box bigger than everyone else's gift and filled it with sticks and rocks and wrapped it and made him wait until everyone else had opened their gifts.

He would not stop talking about how big his gift was and how much better it was going to be than any one else's.

He opened that box and nearly cried. He just blinked and stood there with his hand out and couldn't believe he actually got sticks and rocks.

After he calmed down I gave him his real gift. He got an Ipod.

Now, when he starts that brat behavior I can bring up the sticks and rocks and he will usually stop.


 Wow...

I don't know which is worse: that you played a trick on a child or that you're so proud of having done it...

flan


You a problem with any kind of corrective action towards a kid.

He learned a valuable lesson. It has stuck with him.

I don't care if you approve or not.

A practical joke that teaches a valuable lesson is a good thing.

 


 That, my dear, is why I cannot take you seriously.

Drivel.

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flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

About 6 years ago, maybe more, I gave my nephew a great big box of sticks and rocks.

He was constantly talking about what he was getting and wanted to know what I was getting him and pretty much demanding things. It became extremely annoying. I finally told him I was giving him a box of stick and rocks.

He tried to laugh it off but then he went into this whining mode.

So, when it came time to give him his gift, I had gotten a box bigger than everyone else's gift and filled it with sticks and rocks and wrapped it and made him wait until everyone else had opened their gifts.

He would not stop talking about how big his gift was and how much better it was going to be than any one else's.

He opened that box and nearly cried. He just blinked and stood there with his hand out and couldn't believe he actually got sticks and rocks.

After he calmed down I gave him his real gift. He got an Ipod.

Now, when he starts that brat behavior I can bring up the sticks and rocks and he will usually stop.


 Wow...

I don't know which is worse: that you played a trick on a child or that you're so proud of having done it...

flan


You a problem with any kind of corrective action towards a kid.

He learned a valuable lesson. It has stuck with him.

I don't care if you approve or not.

A practical joke that teaches a valuable lesson is a good thing.

 


 Nailed it. 



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lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

About 6 years ago, maybe more, I gave my nephew a great big box of sticks and rocks.

He was constantly talking about what he was getting and wanted to know what I was getting him and pretty much demanding things. It became extremely annoying. I finally told him I was giving him a box of stick and rocks.

He tried to laugh it off but then he went into this whining mode.

So, when it came time to give him his gift, I had gotten a box bigger than everyone else's gift and filled it with sticks and rocks and wrapped it and made him wait until everyone else had opened their gifts.

He would not stop talking about how big his gift was and how much better it was going to be than any one else's.

He opened that box and nearly cried. He just blinked and stood there with his hand out and couldn't believe he actually got sticks and rocks.

After he calmed down I gave him his real gift. He got an Ipod.

Now, when he starts that brat behavior I can bring up the sticks and rocks and he will usually stop.


 Wow...

I don't know which is worse: that you played a trick on a child or that you're so proud of having done it...

flan


You a problem with any kind of corrective action towards a kid.

He learned a valuable lesson. It has stuck with him.

I don't care if you approve or not.

A practical joke that teaches a valuable lesson is a good thing.

 


 Nailed it. 


 And we've moved from drivel to BS.

I am against whipping a child and calling it "discipline." I am also against playing stupid practical jokes.

Don't you DARE presume to know how I raised my boys.

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flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

About 6 years ago, maybe more, I gave my nephew a great big box of sticks and rocks.

He was constantly talking about what he was getting and wanted to know what I was getting him and pretty much demanding things. It became extremely annoying. I finally told him I was giving him a box of stick and rocks.

He tried to laugh it off but then he went into this whining mode.

So, when it came time to give him his gift, I had gotten a box bigger than everyone else's gift and filled it with sticks and rocks and wrapped it and made him wait until everyone else had opened their gifts.

He would not stop talking about how big his gift was and how much better it was going to be than any one else's.

He opened that box and nearly cried. He just blinked and stood there with his hand out and couldn't believe he actually got sticks and rocks.

After he calmed down I gave him his real gift. He got an Ipod.

Now, when he starts that brat behavior I can bring up the sticks and rocks and he will usually stop.


 Wow...

I don't know which is worse: that you played a trick on a child or that you're so proud of having done it...

flan


You a problem with any kind of corrective action towards a kid.

He learned a valuable lesson. It has stuck with him.

I don't care if you approve or not.

A practical joke that teaches a valuable lesson is a good thing.

 


 Nailed it. 


 And we've moved from drivel to BS.

I am against whipping a child and calling it "discipline." I am also against playing stupid practical jokes.

Don't you DARE presume to know how I raised my boys.

flan


We aren't "presuming" anything--we are going by what YOU post. 

Also, you are a huge hypocrite.  You are blatantly challenging how others parent/parented--but if someone does it to you, then you get all bent out of shape.  



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We aren't "presuming" anything--we are going by what YOU post. 

Also, you are a huge hypocrite.  You are blatantly challenging how others parent/parented--but if someone does it to you, then you get all bent out of shape.  


 I know I get tired of people making comments that if I don't parent like they do there must be something wrong with the way I parent.



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We aren't "presuming" anything--we are going by what YOU post. 

Also, you are a huge hypocrite.  You are blatantly challenging how others parent/parented--but if someone does it to you, then you get all bent out of shape.  


 I know I get tired of people making comments that if I don't parent like they do there must be something wrong with the way I parent.


Sigh.  Yeah, I do agree--and I'm sure flan was/is a good parent.

 

I just get tired of her high and mighty attitude that playing a joke on some bratty kid is going to scar him for life and if you do it, then you are a horrible person and parent.   

 

She gets all bent out of shape when people insinuate that she didn't do enough to discipline her kids because she didn't use corporal punishment--but then can't seem to figure out why people get defensive when she basically says that anyone who did is a child abuser.  Huge hypocrite.



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Saying that flan has " a problem with any kind of corrective action towards a kid."" Because she disagrees with this one incident is just a ridiculous comment.

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Saying that flan has " a problem with any kind of corrective action towards a kid."" Because she disagrees with this one incident is just a ridiculous comment.


It's not just one incident.  It's also not just the fact that she "disagrees".  



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huskerbb wrote:
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huskerbb wrote:

We aren't "presuming" anything--we are going by what YOU post. 

Also, you are a huge hypocrite.  You are blatantly challenging how others parent/parented--but if someone does it to you, then you get all bent out of shape.  


 I know I get tired of people making comments that if I don't parent like they do there must be something wrong with the way I parent.


Sigh.  Yeah, I do agree--and I'm sure flan was/is a good parent.

 

I just get tired of her high and mighty attitude that playing a joke on some bratty kid is going to scar him for life and if you do it, then you are a horrible person and parent.   

 

She gets all bent out of shape when people insinuate that she didn't do enough to discipline her kids because she didn't use corporal punishment--but then can't seem to figure out why people get defensive when she basically says that anyone who did is a child abuser.  Huge hypocrite.



-- Edited by huskerbb on Saturday 27th of December 2014 03:02:12 PM


 1. Stop putting words in my mouth.

2. Stop putting words in my mouth.

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Saying that flan has " a problem with any kind of corrective action towards a kid."" Because she disagrees with this one incident is just a ridiculous comment.


It's not just one incident.  It's also not just the fact that she "disagrees".  


 Why is disagrees in quotes?

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We aren't "presuming" anything--we are going by what YOU post. 

Also, you are a huge hypocrite.  You are blatantly challenging how others parent/parented--but if someone does it to you, then you get all bent out of shape.  


 I know I get tired of people making comments that if I don't parent like they do there must be something wrong with the way I parent.


Sigh.  Yeah, I do agree--and I'm sure flan was/is a good parent.

 

I just get tired of her high and mighty attitude that playing a joke on some bratty kid is going to scar him for life and if you do it, then you are a horrible person and parent.   

 

She gets all bent out of shape when people insinuate that she didn't do enough to discipline her kids because she didn't use corporal punishment--but then can't seem to figure out why people get defensive when she basically says that anyone who did is a child abuser.  Huge hypocrite.



-- Edited by huskerbb on Saturday 27th of December 2014 03:02:12 PM


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2. Stop putting words in my mouth.

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flan327 wrote:
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huskerbb wrote:

We aren't "presuming" anything--we are going by what YOU post. 

Also, you are a huge hypocrite.  You are blatantly challenging how others parent/parented--but if someone does it to you, then you get all bent out of shape.  


 I know I get tired of people making comments that if I don't parent like they do there must be something wrong with the way I parent.


Sigh.  Yeah, I do agree--and I'm sure flan was/is a good parent.

 

I just get tired of her high and mighty attitude that playing a joke on some bratty kid is going to scar him for life and if you do it, then you are a horrible person and parent.   

 

She gets all bent out of shape when people insinuate that she didn't do enough to discipline her kids because she didn't use corporal punishment--but then can't seem to figure out why people get defensive when she basically says that anyone who did is a child abuser.  Huge hypocrite.



-- Edited by huskerbb on Saturday 27th of December 2014 03:02:12 PM


 1. Stop putting words in my mouth.

2. Stop putting words in my mouth.

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Your words are as plain as day.  No need for me to add to them.   



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