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lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

RE: Dear Abby: Handicapped Stall

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
They fold up. When not in use, they take up less space than a hand dryer sticking out from the wall.

I don't know why it is a law to have one.

For convenience? It isn't convenient in the handicap stall.
You don't use them folded up...
flan

Exactly. And when down they impede the flow of traffic. Also, realistically speaking not everyone wants to watch a mother wipe crap off her child's bum. Yes, it's natural and all that but sometimes diapers are stinky and messy and not everyone wants to really see that.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

But it is ok to impede the handicapped person.

Uh huh.

And it isn't hard to clean a babies bum without everyone seeing what you are doing.

huskerbb · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
How can you even think of using the handicap stall if you have the option of three other places to go? I don't understand that thinking.

I was raised to be considerate of others.

I was raised to respect people who may need those stalls and not use them if I did not need to.

Because it isn't about that. If the bathroom is empty, then there is NO ONE to be "considerate" of.

If the bathroom is full--why do certain people deserve more consideration than others? Entitled much?

huskerbb · Guru

Bonny22Pye wrote:
I was allowed to jump the line yesterday. The ladies had a huge line. I asked to go ahead and look for a changing table. There wasn't one. Then a lady pulled me over to the handicapped stall. I changed his diaper super fast and got out of there.

I WISH they were in the main part of the bathroom or even just in the hall outside bathrooms so my husband can use them too.

???? They are in a LOT of men's rooms, anymore, and I live in Nebraska.

Maybe California just isn't very progressive.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Mellow Momma wrote:
voiceofreason wrote:
Disagree. Anyone can use the handicapped stall. Anyone. It's handicapped accessible, not handicapped reserved .

A thousand times this. It's accessible not exclusive. It doesn't mean only handicapped people can use it, it means this is the one they CAN use. Big difference.

Yes and yes.

And why should the mother with the baby have to wait longer for the stall with the baby changer? I don't get it. Abby is wrong.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
But it is ok to impede the handicapped person.

Uh huh.

And it isn't hard to clean a babies bum without everyone seeing what you are doing.

How are they impeded? By having to wait in line like everybody else?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
I dont remember them being very many places when my kids were little. I changed them on my lap, a bench, their stroller or in the car. I am sure they are super convenient though. I just don't know why they have t be in the handicapped stall.

Because it is already the largest stall. Most other stalls won't fit one. And the actual HANDICAPPED use of an accessible stall is very small, so they are getting double use. It's called EFFICIENCY and COST-EFFECTIVENESS. Not to mention, COMMON SENSE.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
How can you even think of using the handicap stall if you have the option of three other places to go? I don't understand that thinking.

I was raised to be considerate of others.

I was raised to respect people who may need those stalls and not use them if I did not need to.

Because it isn't about that. If the bathroom is empty, then there is NO ONE to be "considerate" of.

If the bathroom is full--why do certain people deserve more consideration than others? Entitled much?

Do you know what you are talking about?

Handicapped doesn't mean they just want special privileges.

A handicapped person like me cant sit down without something to hold onto so I don't fall.

Cant get up without something to pull on.

I need time to get my pants down and then sit.

My knees don't bend like a normal person's knees. I cant easily turn around.

I don't have the ability to hold my urine like a normal person.

There is ONE stall I can use. The others might as well not even be there.

How is THAT entitled?

It isn't entitled to expect the bathroom marked for the handicapped be available for use when it is needed. Within reason.

If no one is in there, a normal person should use the normal stall.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
But it is ok to impede the handicapped person.

Uh huh.

And it isn't hard to clean a babies bum without everyone seeing what you are doing.

How are they impeded? By having to wait in line like everybody else?

You ever have to wait in line for one toilet? There may be three or 20 others in there but you can only use the one stall.

It impedes the disabled from getting into the ONLY stall they can use.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
voiceofreason wrote:
Disagree. Anyone can use the handicapped stall. Anyone. It's handicapped accessible, not handicapped reserved .

A thousand times this. It's accessible not exclusive. It doesn't mean only handicapped people can use it, it means this is the one they CAN use. Big difference.
Yes and yes.
And why should the mother with the baby have to wait longer for the stall with the baby changer? I don't get it. Abby is wrong.

Why cant that changing table go in a regular stall. Against the back wall and fold down over the toilet? It would fit in most of them.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

You ever been in a bathroom where every toilet was messed up and couldn't be used except one?

One stall. One single stall is all that a handicapped person gets.

I don't know why people cant get that through their head.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
voiceofreason wrote:
Disagree. Anyone can use the handicapped stall. Anyone. It's handicapped accessible, not handicapped reserved .

A thousand times this. It's accessible not exclusive. It doesn't mean only handicapped people can use it, it means this is the one they CAN use. Big difference.
Yes and yes.
And why should the mother with the baby have to wait longer for the stall with the baby changer? I don't get it. Abby is wrong.
Why cant that changing table go in a regular stall. Against the back wall and fold down over the toilet? It would fit in most of them.

No, it wouldn't. And I wouldn't change my baby OVER A TOILET. Besides, the stroller would not fit, and I'm not leaving my stroller out blocking people and getting ripe for being stolen from. And it is RARE that someone has to wait.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
But it is ok to impede the handicapped person.

Uh huh.

And it isn't hard to clean a babies bum without everyone seeing what you are doing.

So glad that your kids never had diarrhea...

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
You ever been in a bathroom where every toilet was messed up and couldn't be used except one?

One stall. One single stall is all that a handicapped person gets.

I don't know why people cant get that through their head.

And I don't know why some people can't get it through their head that they will get to use that ONE STALL when it is THEIR TURN.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
But it is ok to impede the handicapped person.

Uh huh.

And it isn't hard to clean a babies bum without everyone seeing what you are doing.

How are they impeded? By having to wait in line like everybody else?
You ever have to wait in line for one toilet? There may be three or 20 others in there but you can only use the one stall.
It impedes the disabled from getting into the ONLY stall they can use.

Bull. That argument would only be valid if everyone else was ignoring the regular stalls and ONLY using the handicapped stalls. If the line waiting is using all the stalls, then it is simply waiting their turn. Being handicapped doesn't make you entitled to cut in front of everyone else waiting.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

In my entire life I have never been in line in a restroom where there was a visibly handicapped person. I have been in a LOT of restrooms in a lot of situations, in some really long lines that wrapped around the entire outbuilding. So the chances of me using the bigger stall and it actually having an effect on someone is virtually nill.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

You know, come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen a visibly handicapped person using that stall either.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Me, either. And I'm not going to let a perfectly fine stall go to waste when there is a line of women waiting. That's just stupid.

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

Who determines who is entitled to use the handicapped stall? Obvious disabilities are one thing. But, what if someone is just too big for a normal stall? That's not a handicap so tough titties you have to either squeeze in or pee yourself even though the big stall is open.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Southern_Belle wrote:
Who determines who is entitled to use the handicapped stall? Obvious disabilities are one thing. But, what if someone is just too big for a normal stall? That's not a handicap so tough titties you have to either squeeze in or pee yourself even though the big stall is open.

Yes, who gets to decide this? This was a conversation on the original MM board once. When I had my two knee surgeries I was immobilized from the hip to the ankle. I was on crutches. I absolutely could not use the regular stall. There wasn't enough room for my leg. But technically I wasn't "disabled". I also parked in the disabled spot and used the riding cart. I remember taking a beating because people said if I wasn't "disabled" I shouldn't use that stuff. I might not be "disabled" forever but at the time I was quit disabled. I wonder how many people hated me for using their precious toilet?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
But it is ok to impede the handicapped person.

Uh huh.

And it isn't hard to clean a babies bum without everyone seeing what you are doing.

How are they impeded? By having to wait in line like everybody else?
You ever have to wait in line for one toilet? There may be three or 20 others in there but you can only use the one stall.
It impedes the disabled from getting into the ONLY stall they can use.

Bull. That argument would only be valid if everyone else was ignoring the regular stalls and ONLY using the handicapped stalls. If the line waiting is using all the stalls, then it is simply waiting their turn. Being handicapped doesn't make you entitled to cut in front of everyone else waiting.

That is the point I am trying to make.

The handicapped only has ONE stall. So no matter how many other stalls are in there, there are no other stalls they can use.

It is exactly as if everyone is ignoring the other stalls and only using one.

If all the stalls are empty and someone is in the ONE stall I can use. I am waiting on the ONE stall. The others don't even matter.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
voiceofreason wrote:
Disagree. Anyone can use the handicapped stall. Anyone. It's handicapped accessible, not handicapped reserved .

A thousand times this. It's accessible not exclusive. It doesn't mean only handicapped people can use it, it means this is the one they CAN use. Big difference.
Yes and yes.
And why should the mother with the baby have to wait longer for the stall with the baby changer? I don't get it. Abby is wrong.
Why cant that changing table go in a regular stall. Against the back wall and fold down over the toilet? It would fit in most of them.

No, it wouldn't. And I wouldn't change my baby OVER A TOILET. Besides, the stroller would not fit, and I'm not leaving my stroller out blocking people and getting ripe for being stolen from. And it is RARE that someone has to wait.

Why not? It isn't like they are going to fall in. The table thing folds down over it.

And why do you need your stroller? Change the kid in the stroller. it can be done. I have done it more often than not when out with my kids.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Southern_Belle wrote:
Who determines who is entitled to use the handicapped stall? Obvious disabilities are one thing. But, what if someone is just too big for a normal stall? That's not a handicap so tough titties you have to either squeeze in or pee yourself even though the big stall is open.
Yes, who gets to decide this? This was a conversation on the original MM board once. When I had my two knee surgeries I was immobilized from the hip to the ankle. I was on crutches. I absolutely could not use the regular stall. There wasn't enough room for my leg. But technically I wasn't "disabled". I also parked in the disabled spot and used the riding cart. I remember taking a beating because people said if I wasn't "disabled" I shouldn't use that stuff. I might not be "disabled" forever but at the time I was quit disabled. I wonder how many people hated me for using their precious toilet?

Well that was stupid because you WERE disabled.

Thankfully one that didn't last forever.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

It isn't that someone is using it. It's that someone goes in when there are others to use.

Or when someone goes in and takes a long time using it.

I have listened to people on their phones while in there.

I don't know why a person who is abled, cant use the regular stall if there is a regular stall available.

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

Maybe the others were dirty. Or out of tp.

huskerbb · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
You ever been in a bathroom where every toilet was messed up and couldn't be used except one?

One stall. One single stall is all that a handicapped person gets.

I don't know why people cant get that through their head.

Oh we get it. It's just irrelevant.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
You know, come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen a visibly handicapped person using that stall either.

Me, either. The chances that one is going to come into an empty restroom while you just happen to be using that stall is as close to zero as you can get.

I'm not making choices based on something that probably isn't going to happen, anyway. If it does, so what? It's not like I'm pitching a tent in there. It won't kill them to wait 30 seconds.

huskerbb · Guru

Like Larry the Cable Guy says:

The crippled stall is the Cadillac of the poopin' stalls.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Well I cant count the number of times I have walked into a bathroom with the only stall being used is the handicapped stall and the person in it was not disabled.

So there I am, standing in a room full of toilets that I cant use waiting on that one stall.

It isn't relevant until it affects you.

huskerbb · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Well I cant count the number of times I have walked into a bathroom with the only stall being used is the handicapped stall and the person in it was not disabled.

So there I am, standing in a room full of toilets that I cant use waiting on that one stall.

It isn't relevant until it affects you.

Well, then you have to wait a minute or two. Lots of people do it. It's not the end of the world.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Just because you see an able body doesn't mean it is.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I understand that NJN. More than most.

And Husker. Those few minutes can mean the difference between peeing in my pants or not. That is just the fact of it.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Like I said. It isn't relevant till it affects you.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Lily, you're not helping your case. People use them for all reasons. Some people have arthritic knees and need the higher toilet and handles. Some people have bad backs and need the pull bars. Some people have other things that make the handicapped stall easier for them to use. Overweight people, while some may say it's their fault, may need the extra room. There are all kinds of reasons to use the stall. And just as legitimate as yours. Yes, if there is a person in the bathroom in a wheelchair I would offer them the stall first. But I use the handicapped stall too. And I will continue to use it regardless of the one in ten thousand chance that a handicapped person comes in. I don't talk on my phone in the bathroom. I pull out my cross word puzzle books either. I don't do anything but my business and then get out of there. Public restrooms are NOT a place I like to hang out for fun.

tlc · Regular

When I worked for a call center, there was a bathroom with 8 stalls. One handicapped stall. I can't tell you how many times I went in there to find one stall being used - the handicapped stall - by someone not disabled. I totally get what Lily is saying. Of course odds are that if you aren't disabled, you've never seen a disabled person in line for the bathroom because there are less of us. But, odds are that we will find more people using the handicapped stall when others are available than not.

So using the argument that "well, it isn't being used right now, so I'll go ahead and use it", do you also think this way about handicapped parking stalls? I know a lot of people who think, "well, there's no one parked there, and I'm only going to be "a minute", so I'll just park here" even though I might be right behind you needing that space.

All we are asking is that if other stalls are available, please use those, because we might be right behind you and need to use the handicapped stall.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Personally I don't care who parks in a handicapped space. I long ago stopped letting this be my hill to die on. If someone wants to call the police and report someone then go ahead. Not my cup of tea. If the police want to ticket someone they have every right. But as I said, when I had knee surgery I parked in the handicapped spot because I could barely walk. Judge away. I didn't have the "right" to park there.

Just an FYI, I always use the handicapped stall. I have incredibly bad arthritis in both knees. If the toilet is too low I sometimes can't get up. I may not "look" handicapped but the higher toilet and bars have been a godsend on bad arthritis days. And I'm not going to stop using the stalls that are most convenient for me. If there is a handicapped person in there I will use another stall. If someone comes in while I am waiting I will let them go first. But if no one is in the bathroom I will use it.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

And no one is talking about the ones who need the stall.

It's the ones who DONT need it and think "eh, it's just a bathroom stall".

If you need it, use it.

huskerbb · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
I understand that NJN. More than most.

And Husker. Those few minutes can mean the difference between peeing in my pants or not. That is just the fact of it.

Not really my problem.

Beyond that, you don't know that when I went in there that all the other stalls weren't occupied, and then emptied after I entered the last stall.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

I need to start reserving the stall I want when I go in the store...

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
You know, come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen a visibly handicapped person using that stall either.
Me, either. The chances that one is going to come into an empty restroom while you just happen to be using that stall is as close to zero as you can get.

I'm not making choices based on something that probably isn't going to happen, anyway. If it does, so what? It's not like I'm pitching a tent in there. It won't kill them to wait 30 seconds.

NJN. Right here, you and Husker both said you never seen a visibly handicapped person.

But you said you use them.

Are you visibly handicapped? Does that make you less needing of them when you go in there? No.

If you go in and it is being used, are you able to use the other stalls?

If you can, then why take up the stall another who can ONLY use that ONE?

If you cant, have you ever had to wait on someone to come out of it?

If you don't get in there in time, do you pee in your pants because you have lost some of the ability to hold your urine?

I am not really sure what you are trying to say.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
I understand that NJN. More than most.

And Husker. Those few minutes can mean the difference between peeing in my pants or not. That is just the fact of it.

Not really my problem.

Beyond that, you don't know that when I went in there that all the other stalls weren't occupied, and then emptied after I entered the last stall.

You re right. It isn't your problem And because you don't have to deal with that problem, you have NO IDEA what you are asking another to deal with. You are being selfish and entitled.

And you are right again, it could have been full when you went in. Were you unable to hold your pee or poop for the few minutes? You had other options that would open up in a very little bit. But you take the ONLY STALL THAT A HANDICAPPED PERSON CAN USE.

You just took their ONLY option.

But it isn't your problem. We get it.

huskerbb · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
I understand that NJN. More than most.

And Husker. Those few minutes can mean the difference between peeing in my pants or not. That is just the fact of it.

Not really my problem.

Beyond that, you don't know that when I went in there that all the other stalls weren't occupied, and then emptied after I entered the last stall.
You re right. It isn't your problem And because you don't have to deal with that problem, you have NO IDEA what you are asking another to deal with. You are being selfish and entitled.
And you are right again, it could have been full when you went in. Were you unable to hold your pee or poop for the few minutes? You had other options that would open up in a very little bit. But you take the ONLY STALL THAT A HANDICAPPED PERSON CAN USE.
You just took their ONLY option.
But it isn't your problem. We get it.

I'm not the "entitled" one. I'm not the one asking someone else to forego using a facility on the TINY CHANCE that someone else may need it.

I'm not the one who thinks they shouldn't have to wait a couple of minutes for said facility when everyone else in the world has to wait.

I'm not the one who thinks I'm special and the rules that apply to everyone else don't apply to me.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Saturday 3rd of January 2015 11:26:25 PM

huskerbb · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
You know, come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen a visibly handicapped person using that stall either.
Me, either. The chances that one is going to come into an empty restroom while you just happen to be using that stall is as close to zero as you can get.

I'm not making choices based on something that probably isn't going to happen, anyway. If it does, so what? It's not like I'm pitching a tent in there. It won't kill them to wait 30 seconds.
NJN. Right here, you and Husker both said you never seen a visibly handicapped person.
But you said you use them.
Are you visibly handicapped? Does that make you less needing of them when you go in there? No.
If you go in and it is being used, are you able to use the other stalls?
If you can, then why take up the stall another who can ONLY use that ONE?
If you cant, have you ever had to wait on someone to come out of it?
If you don't get in there in time, do you pee in your pants because you have lost some of the ability to hold your urine?
I am not really sure what you are trying to say.

We are saying it's not always just about you.

THAT is the attitude of entitlement.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Saturday 3rd of January 2015 11:25:50 PM

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

You really DONT get it.

You have OTHER options.

If three stalls are regular, chances are one of those will open in a matter of few minutes.

You are asking a handicapped person to wait when YOU are not willing to.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
You know, come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen a visibly handicapped person using that stall either.
Me, either. The chances that one is going to come into an empty restroom while you just happen to be using that stall is as close to zero as you can get.

I'm not making choices based on something that probably isn't going to happen, anyway. If it does, so what? It's not like I'm pitching a tent in there. It won't kill them to wait 30 seconds.
NJN. Right here, you and Husker both said you never seen a visibly handicapped person.
But you said you use them.
Are you visibly handicapped? Does that make you less needing of them when you go in there? No.
If you go in and it is being used, are you able to use the other stalls?
If you can, then why take up the stall another who can ONLY use that ONE?
If you cant, have you ever had to wait on someone to come out of it?
If you don't get in there in time, do you pee in your pants because you have lost some of the ability to hold your urine?
I am not really sure what you are trying to say.
We are saying it's not always just about you.

THAT is the attitude of entitlement.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Saturday 3rd of January 2015 11:25:50 PM

No. You are saying the handicapped person can wait for the ONE STALL but you are not going to wait for ONE OF THREE.

It isn't entitlement to have ONE stall.

It is entitlement to take THE ONLY STALL ANOTHER CAN USE.

What part of THE ONLY ONE can you NOT wrap your head around?

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

The handicapped parking space comparison isnt valid. Parking there without proper placards and permits is illegal. Even if you are handicapped, you cannot park there unless you have the placard posted in the car visibly. The bathroom stall is handicapped accessible...not handicapped reserved. And it isnt against the law to use it. You don't need a special permit.

huskerbb · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
You really DONT get it.

You have OTHER options.

If three stalls are regular, chances are one of those will open in a matter of few minutes.

You are asking a handicapped person to wait when YOU are not willing to.

No. I am perfectly willing to wait when there are others ahead of me.

What I am not willing to do is make decisions based on the TINY CHANCE that a handicapped person will enter that space in the couple of minutes needed to do my business.

huskerbb · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
You know, come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen a visibly handicapped person using that stall either.
Me, either. The chances that one is going to come into an empty restroom while you just happen to be using that stall is as close to zero as you can get.

I'm not making choices based on something that probably isn't going to happen, anyway. If it does, so what? It's not like I'm pitching a tent in there. It won't kill them to wait 30 seconds.
NJN. Right here, you and Husker both said you never seen a visibly handicapped person.
But you said you use them.
Are you visibly handicapped? Does that make you less needing of them when you go in there? No.
If you go in and it is being used, are you able to use the other stalls?
If you can, then why take up the stall another who can ONLY use that ONE?
If you cant, have you ever had to wait on someone to come out of it?
If you don't get in there in time, do you pee in your pants because you have lost some of the ability to hold your urine?
I am not really sure what you are trying to say.
We are saying it's not always just about you.

THAT is the attitude of entitlement.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Saturday 3rd of January 2015 11:25:50 PM
No. You are saying the handicapped person can wait for the ONE STALL but you are not going to wait for ONE OF THREE.
It isn't entitlement to have ONE stall.
It is entitlement to take THE ONLY STALL ANOTHER CAN USE.
What part of THE ONLY ONE can you NOT wrap your head around?

BS. Not if there is NO ONE there at the time that needs that stall. Even if there is, while I can let that person go ahead of me, I cannot, like the LW, make that decision for the person immediately behind me. That is up to them.

chef · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
I dont remember them being very many places when my kids were little. I changed them on my lap, a bench, their stroller or in the car. I am sure they are super convenient though. I just don't know why they have t be in the handicapped stall.
Because in a bathroom with limited space that is often the only place to put it. And it is law to have a baby changing table now.

I wish some of the restaurants in my area would get this memo. Interestingly, our local Del Taco does not have a changing table but has a play area. The tire place up the road has a changing table - in both the men's and women's restrooms. Go figure.