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Do you have a handicapped stall at home? How do you function if you can't use a regular toilet?

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Ya'll really don't see how you sound.

You really re not seeing what you are doing.

You really don't get it.

You keep saying I am the one entitled but you cant see how you are exuding the entitlement.

How dare I expect to be able to use the ONE stall in the bathroom.

How dare I expect another who IS NOT disabled to be courteous.

You don't get it because it hasn't affected you personally.

The selfishness and self centered attitude of each of you is really eye opening.

And in every single post I said a non disabled.

You are the ones saying visibly disabled.

Each one of you have accused people of not really being handicapped. On these boards. You see someone get out of the car and you cant see the limb missing or they don't look like Quasimodo and you say "they aren't really disabled".

You want to see entitlement? Look in a mirror.


Nearly every poster has agreed with me about this issue save one or two.  You are the one who sounds entitled, selfish, and self-centered.

You can use the one stall in the bathroom--you just might have to wait a couple of minutes just like EVERYONE ELSE in the world.  


I don't have a problem waiting for someone who needs it.

But you have admitted you don't need it.

Others have too.

If you don't need it. You shouldn't make those who do wait.

You are not willing to wait the 2 minutes for a regular stall to open. Why should I be willing to wait on your able body 2 minutes to get out of the ONE stall I am able to use?

You are the entitled one if you think that is any where near ok.

 


???  I said I'd be willing to wait if I have to.  If I don't have to--why would I?  There would be ZERO reason to do so.   


 you would be willing to wait if someone was handicapped. How do YOU determine that? You don't know if they have a handicap by looking at them. So you just don't know if they "deserve" to be in there or not. 

 

So let it go. You are only causing yourself aggravation. The end result is the same, you had to wait. What difference does it makes if you had to wait because they "deserved" the stall or if they didn't ? Seriously. I want to know. How does it effect you? 



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I have tried to explain and reason over and over as to why those stalls are important to handicapped people.

But I get called names and mocked and you think that is just wonderfully fine.

Walk a mile in another person's shoes.

Get out of your own little able bodied heads for a minute and put yourself in someone else's shoes.

If you had to live one day like a lot of people you like to make fun of and inconvenience, you would be very ashamed of yourselves.


LOL!!!  Again, in the THOUSANDS of times I've been in a public restroom, I've never inconvenienced anyone.

 

I'm sorry you are in the situation you are--but your constant whining and every day pity parties do get old.   


What the heck are you talking about? I don't have daily pity parties.

But I WILL call out someone when they are wrong.

And you wrong in this case.

 



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So no one should use the bathroom at places that just have one and it's handicapped accessible?

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Simple question.

How often do any of you go into the bathroom and it be empty and go straight to the handicapped stall?

Why? Why that one?

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I don't think anyone here would carelessly or callously use a handicapped stall if they thought someone was there that needed one. First we are told "don't judge" because everyone COULD be disabled, yet the women in the Post SUPPOSED that the woman with the child was NOT disabled as well. So go figure.

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I have tried to explain and reason over and over as to why those stalls are important to handicapped people.

But I get called names and mocked and you think that is just wonderfully fine.

Walk a mile in another person's shoes.

Get out of your own little able bodied heads for a minute and put yourself in someone else's shoes.

If you had to live one day like a lot of people you like to make fun of and inconvenience, you would be very ashamed of yourselves.


LOL!!!  Again, in the THOUSANDS of times I've been in a public restroom, I've never inconvenienced anyone.

 

I'm sorry you are in the situation you are--but your constant whining and every day pity parties do get old.   


What the heck are you talking about? I don't have daily pity parties.

But I WILL call out someone when they are wrong.

And you wrong in this case.

 


No, I'm not. You are a party of one (maybe two) on this issue.   



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Because the stall is OPEN for use and it isn't RESERVED only for you. It is available for use to the general public. You don't get to change the rules for everyone else.


I am not wanting a reserved stall. I am wanting the one stall I can use to not have an able bodied person in there when there are other stalls they can use.

 


And that's the definition of entitlement.  


 It's also the definition of RESERVED!!! 



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I guess I would have to check the store before I go take a poop when there is just one bathroom available.

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Simple question.

How often do any of you go into the bathroom and it be empty and go straight to the handicapped stall?

Why? Why that one?


A.   It is larger, so there is more leg room.

B.  It has handrails in case you need to power squeeze. 

C.  It's usually cleaner.

 



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Because the stall is OPEN for use and it isn't RESERVED only for you. It is available for use to the general public. You don't get to change the rules for everyone else.


I am not wanting a reserved stall. I am wanting the one stall I can use to not have an able bodied person in there when there are other stalls they can use.

 


And that's the definition of entitlement.  


 It's also the definition of RESERVED!!! 


They aren't reserved.  In most public restrooms, there isn't even a sign designating that stall as handicap.  



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Simple question.

How often do any of you go into the bathroom and it be empty and go straight to the handicapped stall?

Why? Why that one?


 Because it's the only one without **** on the seat. Or its the only one with tp. Or its the only one with a locking door.



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Simple question.

How often do any of you go into the bathroom and it be empty and go straight to the handicapped stall?

Why? Why that one?


A.   It is larger, so there is more leg room.

B.  It has handrails in case you need to power squeeze. 

C.  It's usually cleaner.

 


 I am 5'4" and 130 lbs and the other stall are so small, that I cannot get in, turn around, etc.  I have been in stalls where my knees touched the stall door when I sat down. TMI alert:

 

Ever tried to change your tampon With your knees pressed up against the door of the stall? 

 



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Because the stall is OPEN for use and it isn't RESERVED only for you. It is available for use to the general public. You don't get to change the rules for everyone else.


I am not wanting a reserved stall. I am wanting the one stall I can use to not have an able bodied person in there when there are other stalls they can use.

 


 And when that "able bodied person" walks out, you can tell there is absolutely nothing wrong with them that "allows" them to use the handicapped stall?

having a disability does not give you the right to judge whether other people are disabled enough to use the stall.  

As a person with an invisible illness, I'm careful not to judge other people. I haven't walked in their shoes. you haven't walked in mine



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lilyofcourse wrote:
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Because the stall is OPEN for use and it isn't RESERVED only for you. It is available for use to the general public. You don't get to change the rules for everyone else.


I am not wanting a reserved stall. I am wanting the one stall I can use to not have an able bodied person in there when there are other stalls they can use.

 


 You said up higher that you wanted swipe cards for the stalls.  THAT is entitlement.



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Because the stall is OPEN for use and it isn't RESERVED only for you. It is available for use to the general public. You don't get to change the rules for everyone else.


I am not wanting a reserved stall. I am wanting the one stall I can use to not have an able bodied person in there when there are other stalls they can use.

 


And that's the definition of entitlement.  


 It's also the definition of RESERVED!!! 


They aren't reserved.  In most public restrooms, there isn't even a sign designating that stall as handicap.  


 Oh I agree with you Husker. I just found it ironic that she says she doesn't want a reserved stall, and then says she wants a stall that is the definition of reserved !



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Mellow Momma wrote:
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Because the stall is OPEN for use and it isn't RESERVED only for you. It is available for use to the general public. You don't get to change the rules for everyone else.


I am not wanting a reserved stall. I am wanting the one stall I can use to not have an able bodied person in there when there are other stalls they can use.

 


And that's the definition of entitlement.  


 It's also the definition of RESERVED!!! 


They aren't reserved.  In most public restrooms, there isn't even a sign designating that stall as handicap.  


 Oh I agree with you Husker. I just found it ironic that she says she doesn't want a reserved stall, and then says she wants a stall that is the definition of reserved !


Oh, sorry. I mis-read.  



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So wear Depends and never use a public restroom again????

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Simple question.

How often do any of you go into the bathroom and it be empty and go straight to the handicapped stall?

Why? Why that one?


A.   It is larger, so there is more leg room.

B.  It has handrails in case you need to power squeeze. 

C.  It's usually cleaner.

 


 And the toilets are higher. 



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So wear Depends and never use a public restroom again????

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lilyofcourse wrote:

Simple question.

How often do any of you go into the bathroom and it be empty and go straight to the handicapped stall?

Why? Why that one?


 I don't. I don't like the higher toilets, my feet usually don't touch the ground. The only time I use the handicapped stall is if that is the only one open (or with TP, the non-clogged toilet, ect)



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If you are that bad off, maybe you need to wear depends or have a catheter put in or PLAN when you go out. Sorry, the whole world does not have to part the Red Sea for your issues. Most everyone is understanding of people who have issues. If you can't wait a few seconds to pee, then you need to see a Urologist asap and find out what is going on.


How do you know I don't?

I do wear things for my condition.

What else would you like me to do?

 



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

Yeah, I have had issues with irritable bowel before, and when you have to poop, you need to poop. So, let's just put that out there. But, obviously, if I had a flare up, I had to be a bit careful in planning but I dont' expect the world to change it's ways for me.


 Me too.

And it takes less time to maneuver in a bigger stall. Sometimes seconds count...

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I'm only 4'9" and some stalls are hard to get in and out of.

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So wear Depends and never use a public restroom again????

flan


I think I will pee behind your car.   evileye


 Are you going to raise one leg and get urine on my tires???

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So who is more disabled? If I enter the bathroom at the same time as does someone in a wheelchair and I have a broken leg and am in a leg cast and on crutches who is more disabled? Who gets to judge this? Who gets to use the stall first? Mine isn't a permanent disability. Does it even count then? Do we need to have handicapped inspectors in all the bathrooms?

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If you are that bad off, maybe you need to wear depends or have a catheter put in or PLAN when you go out. Sorry, the whole world does not have to part the Red Sea for your issues. Most everyone is understanding of people who have issues. If you can't wait a few seconds to pee, then you need to see a Urologist asap and find out what is going on.


How do you know I don't?

I do wear things for my condition.

What else would you like me to do?

 


Stop bellyaching and enjoy being out in public?  wink 



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I don't choose the largest stall. I choose the cleanest one.

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Or the one that's available.

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Every single one of you are proving your own selfishness.

I hope the day never comes that you find yourself in the opposite situation.





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I also struggle with IBS. All stall are full except the handicapped. Should I poop myself because a handicapped person might come in? If there is someone in a wheelchair there - who is more handicapped? Who can judge?

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Every single one of you are proving your own selfishness.

I hope the day never comes that you find yourself in the opposite situation.




We are selfish but you aren't?  Oh ok?  bleh 



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Every single one of you are proving your own selfishness.

I hope the day never comes that you find yourself in the opposite situation.




 I think we have proven that almost ALL of us have been in a situation where we were handicapped temporarily. So we CAN empathize. It seems you are the only one here who is not empathizing with the other side. 



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I also struggle with IBS. All stall are full except the handicapped. Should I poop myself because a handicapped person might come in? If there is someone in a wheelchair there - who is more handicapped? Who can judge?


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Every single one of you are proving your own selfishness.

I hope the day never comes that you find yourself in the opposite situation.




She says as she accepts our money to live on.   



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Every single one of you are proving your own selfishness.

I hope the day never comes that you find yourself in the opposite situation.




 Um, I've been in that position.  Fortunately there weren't a bunch of shrews in the bathroom judging me.

Once, right after knee surgery, I got stuck on a regular toilet.  No lie.  DH had to come in and help me up.

YOU are the only self righteous person here Lily.  You think YOU are the only one that has ever had a hard time.  Get over yourself.



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I also struggle with IBS. All stall are full except the handicapped. Should I poop myself because a handicapped person might come in? If there is someone in a wheelchair there - who is more handicapped? Who can judge?


 If it was meant for ONLY handicapped people, it would be policed like parking lots, or it's own separate room, not just a stall.  It's just silly to think that stall has to sit there unoccupied 98% of the time.



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I also struggle with IBS. All stall are full except the handicapped. Should I poop myself because a handicapped person might come in? If there is someone in a wheelchair there - who is more handicapped? Who can judge?


Judy! 


 YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!  We need a Judge Judy in every bathroom!



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 Every single one of us???

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Every single one of you are proving your own selfishness.

I hope the day never comes that you find yourself in the opposite situation.




 Every single one of us???

Goody goody gumdrops!!!!

flan


 Seriously.  I'm pretty sure everyone of us would yield a handicapped stall to someone visibly handicapped if we were both waiting - or even to a mom with baby, like in the OP.  But using the stall when no one else is waiting for it is selfish?  That's the damnest thing I've heard, yet.  Talk about selfish and entitled.  My stall must be waiting for my use.....how dare anyone look at it....how dare they PEE in it!!!!!!!



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Every single one of you are proving your own selfishness.

I hope the day never comes that you find yourself in the opposite situation.




 Every single one of us???

Goody goody gumdrops!!!!

flan


 Seriously.  I'm pretty sure everyone of us would yield a handicapped stall to someone visibly handicapped if we were both waiting - or even to a mom with baby, like in the OP.  But using the stall when no one else is waiting for it is selfish?  That's the damnest thing I've heard, yet.  Talk about selfish and entitled.  My stall must be waiting for my use.....how dare anyone look at it....how dare they PEE in it!!!!!!!


 I have pooped in a handicapped stall.

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Every single one of you are proving your own selfishness.

I hope the day never comes that you find yourself in the opposite situation.




 Every single one of us???

Goody goody gumdrops!!!!

flan


 Seriously.  I'm pretty sure everyone of us would yield a handicapped stall to someone visibly handicapped if we were both waiting - or even to a mom with baby, like in the OP.  But using the stall when no one else is waiting for it is selfish?  That's the damnest thing I've heard, yet.  Talk about selfish and entitled.  My stall must be waiting for my use.....how dare anyone look at it....how dare they PEE in it!!!!!!!


Exactly.  I'm not basing my choices on the ZERO percent chance of X event occurring.   



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I could call my IBS a handicap. But I don't.

 



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flan327 wrote:
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Every single one of you are proving your own selfishness.

I hope the day never comes that you find yourself in the opposite situation.




 Every single one of us???

Goody goody gumdrops!!!!

flan


 Seriously.  I'm pretty sure everyone of us would yield a handicapped stall to someone visibly handicapped if we were both waiting - or even to a mom with baby, like in the OP.  But using the stall when no one else is waiting for it is selfish?  That's the damnest thing I've heard, yet.  Talk about selfish and entitled.  My stall must be waiting for my use.....how dare anyone look at it....how dare they PEE in it!!!!!!!


 I have pooped in a handicapped stall.

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I will poop wherever I can.

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Every single one of you are proving your own selfishness.

I hope the day never comes that you find yourself in the opposite situation.




 Every single one of us???

Goody goody gumdrops!!!!

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 Seriously.  I'm pretty sure everyone of us would yield a handicapped stall to someone visibly handicapped if we were both waiting - or even to a mom with baby, like in the OP.  But using the stall when no one else is waiting for it is selfish?  That's the damnest thing I've heard, yet.  Talk about selfish and entitled.  My stall must be waiting for my use.....how dare anyone look at it....how dare they PEE in it!!!!!!!


 I have pooped in a handicapped stall.

flan


 I believe this belongs in the confession thread.



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I will poop wherever I can.


Try behind flan's car.  That's very convenient.  biggrin 



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Yeah, I think the thing here is the difference between entitled and not is this. If you need the stall and come in and people won't allow you to use it then that is a reason to be angry. Entitled is expecting people not to use "YOUR" stall even if you don't have the need to use it yourself.

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Good idea! Or better yet.... does she have a sun roof?

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Every single one of you are proving your own selfishness.

I hope the day never comes that you find yourself in the opposite situation.




 Every single one of us???

Goody goody gumdrops!!!!

flan


 Seriously.  I'm pretty sure everyone of us would yield a handicapped stall to someone visibly handicapped if we were both waiting - or even to a mom with baby, like in the OP.  But using the stall when no one else is waiting for it is selfish?  That's the damnest thing I've heard, yet.  Talk about selfish and entitled.  My stall must be waiting for my use.....how dare anyone look at it....how dare they PEE in it!!!!!!!


 I have pooped in a handicapped stall.

flan


It's the Cadillac of the poopin' stalls.  I don't need stalls to urinate in, dudes have urinals, so when I use a stall, it's usually to poop.   



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