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Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

RE: Medium Rare

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Tinydancer wrote:
Well if it's not bloody it must be shoe leather. There's nothing inbetween LGS...lol

-- Edited by Tinydancer on Monday 5th of January 2015 01:23:05 PM

I can eat a steak to medium, but past that - I wouldn't bother. It's not worth the calories.

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
What's wrong with steak sauce? I like steak sauce. For some reason, all kinds of concoctions can be slathered on every other food but steak is exempt somehow?
Because a good steak doesn't need sauce. We're not talking about French fries. We're talking STEAK.
That's the key, though. It has to be a good steak. I don't find many of those in restaurants. Occasionally, but not often.
I agree. They are few and far between, but I would never order a steak somewhere like that anyway.
G makes amazing steaks. We barter for them. Tonight, our hairdresser is coming over to do our hair in return for one of his steaks. We get all kinds of mileage from that...

But you don't always know until it's too late.

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
Well if it's not bloody it must be shoe leather. There's nothing inbetween LGS...lol

-- Edited by Tinydancer on Monday 5th of January 2015 01:23:05 PM

That's basically true.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Well if it's not bloody it must be shoe leather. There's nothing inbetween LGS...lol

-- Edited by Tinydancer on Monday 5th of January 2015 01:23:05 PM
That's basically true.

That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard from you...and I've heard some doozies!

flan

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Well if it's not bloody it must be shoe leather. There's nothing inbetween LGS...lol

-- Edited by Tinydancer on Monday 5th of January 2015 01:23:05 PM
That's basically true.
That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard from you...and I've heard some doozies!
flan

No. Anyone who knows anything about cooking a good steak would agree.

Tinydancer · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Well if it's not bloody it must be shoe leather. There's nothing inbetween LGS...lol

-- Edited by Tinydancer on Monday 5th of January 2015 01:23:05 PM
That's basically true.
That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard from you...and I've heard some doozies!
flan
No. Anyone who knows anything about cooking a good steak would agree.

I know plenty about cooking a good steak and to me that means no bloody river on my plate. If you like it gross like that more power to you. Blood on my plate makes me gag so a good steak should not bleed. I wouldn't presume to tell you how to eat your disgustingly bloody steak...lol

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

A pool of blood on the plate is gross. And, you seem to want juices to run clear for other meats. Yeah, I know less risk with rare beef, blah, blah. But I LIKE it the WAY I LIKE IT.

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Well if it's not bloody it must be shoe leather. There's nothing inbetween LGS...lol

-- Edited by Tinydancer on Monday 5th of January 2015 01:23:05 PM
That's basically true.
That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard from you...and I've heard some doozies!
flan
No. Anyone who knows anything about cooking a good steak would agree.
I know plenty about cooking a good steak and to me that means no bloody river on my plate. If you like it gross like that more power to you. Blood on my plate makes me gag so a good steak should not bleed. I wouldn't presume to tell you how to eat your disgustingly bloody steak...lol

Your own words completely contradict what you claim.

JPT · Senior Member

I got so spoiled when we lived in So. Cal...back in the mid/late 80's I worked for a construction co (job cost accountant) and the business location was in their home/shop on a dozen acres out in agricultural zoned areas. They were from Montana, and kept about 3-4 steers pastured for slaughter every year. Grass fed with a bit of grain finish the last couple of weeks, and they'd sell me a hind quarter for just the cut/wrap charge from the butcher (at that time, 30 cents a lb) Never before or since had better (the butcher would age the beef before cutting).
The only thing, all the meat was paper overwrapped, and stamped with the name of the dearly departed...

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

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That looks great to me.

FNW · Guru

There are a few places around here where I can get a good steak. Morton's, Ruth's Chris, Capitol Grille, Smith & Wollensky. I make a good steak, too. Sear both sides for 3-5 minutes each in oven safe skillet with olive oil, seasonings. Stick in 350 oven with a pat of butter on each. Cook time depends on thickness. If we use those 2 inch thick steaks from Costco, it will be medium to medium rare within 12-15 minutes.

We like ours juicy, so we eat them as soon as possible. If I'm serving a hemophobiac, theirs will go in sooner and removed sooner to enable time to "rest" while ours cooks so it can be served at the same time.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

That's pink enough for me. I don't want it red, raw, bleeding like it's on it's period.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

That's pink enough for me. I don't want it red, raw, bleeding like it's on it's period.

That doesn't look too bad. I don't think you'll gat that at most places if you order medium, though.

JPT · Senior Member

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
A pool of blood on the plate is gross. And, you seem to want juices to run clear for other meats. Yeah, I know less risk with rare beef, blah, blah. But I LIKE it the WAY I LIKE IT.

No matter how rare you cook a steak, if you don't "rest" it before cutting it, you'll end up with a "bloody" plate. Take the steak off the grill about one minute before it's cooked to your preference, plate and loosely tent with foil for about 10 minutes.

I learned the art of testing the doneness of steak with a light touch on the meat. Learned from a champion grill master!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Too raw. The fat is still white. Blecch.

FNW · Guru

That's a little too rare for my tastes as well.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

That's pink enough for me. I don't want it red, raw, bleeding like it's on it's period.
That doesn't look too bad. I don't think you'll gat that at most places if you order medium, though.

Well, that's the problem. If you go to a new restaurant, you arent' sure how adapt they are to hit the right point. I usually order medium rare it comes out like that. But, if it comes out to raw, I send it back and if they want to spit on it or whatever, I figure it will enhance the flavor.

Tinydancer · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Well if it's not bloody it must be shoe leather. There's nothing inbetween LGS...lol

-- Edited by Tinydancer on Monday 5th of January 2015 01:23:05 PM
That's basically true.
That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard from you...and I've heard some doozies!
flan
No. Anyone who knows anything about cooking a good steak would agree.
I know plenty about cooking a good steak and to me that means no bloody river on my plate. If you like it gross like that more power to you. Blood on my plate makes me gag so a good steak should not bleed. I wouldn't presume to tell you how to eat your disgustingly bloody steak...lol
Your own words completely contradict what you claim.

They were meant to. I was being you Husker and telling you what you should like...lol

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

That's pink enough for me. I don't want it red, raw, bleeding like it's on it's period.
That doesn't look too bad. I don't think you'll gat that at most places if you order medium, though.
Well, that's the problem. If you go to a new restaurant, you arent' sure how adapt they are to hit the right point. I usually order medium rare it comes out like that. But, if it comes out to raw, I send it back and if they want to spit on it or whatever, I figure it will enhance the flavor.

That's been my usual experience. Order at least one degree more rare than you want. If a good restaurant does get it right, they can throw it back on.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

That's pink enough for me. I don't want it red, raw, bleeding like it's on it's period.
That doesn't look too bad. I don't think you'll gat that at most places if you order medium, though.
Well, that's the problem. If you go to a new restaurant, you arent' sure how adapt they are to hit the right point. I usually order medium rare it comes out like that. But, if it comes out to raw, I send it back and if they want to spit on it or whatever, I figure it will enhance the flavor.
That's been my usual experience. Order at least one degree more rare than you want. If a good restaurant does get it right, they can throw it back on.

If a restaurant does "throw it back on" and doesn't just give you a new steak...run. Run like hell and get out of there. It's against food safety regulations to put an item that has been touched by a consumer back on the grill and then serve it again. It's not sanitary. Your fork/knife has bacteria on it and by putting that steak back on the grill, they are contaminating the cooking surface.

I know the grill will cook off the bacteria. I didn't make the rules. But if they are willing to break the rules you CAN see...you probably don't want to know what else is going on back in the kitchen.

huskerbb · Guru

I'll eat it a little rare, so I don't send it back.

huskerbb · Guru

Better too rare than too done.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Now I really need steak for dinner.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
Now I really need steak for dinner.

I want Chinese.

flan

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

huskerbb wrote:
Better too rare than too done.

Absolutely. Most of the time restaurants tend to err on the side of over cooking rather than under. I always order my steaks rare when I really want medium rare. I was in a very good steak house in Richmond & ordered rare & actually got rare. I had to send it back for a bit more cooking. MM I have no idea if they reheated it or sent me another steak. I would guess reheated because it would be terribly expensive to throw away every steak that is sent back.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Now I really need steak for dinner.

I ate enough red meat at Christmas. I won't need another steak until this summer.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Lexxy wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Better too rare than too done.
Absolutely. Most of the time restaurants tend to err on the side of over cooking rather than under. I always order my steaks rare when I really want medium rare. I was in a very good steak house in Richmond & ordered rare & actually got rare. I had to send it back for a bit more cooking. MM I have no idea if they reheated it or sent me another steak. I would guess reheated because it would be terribly expensive to throw away every steak that is sent back.

That is why the server will typically go to great lengths to explain what "rare" means to them. A good server will anyway. If you got a steak back that had not been cut into, then you got a new steak.

Its the primary reason steak isn't served on the menu at a typical restaurant. It's too expensive to toss out and recook. A steak place will cook it correctly and knows what they are getting into. They will just toss it. Or a server will eat it, or a cook will eat it. That's the norm.

huskerbb · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
Lexxy wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Better too rare than too done.
Absolutely. Most of the time restaurants tend to err on the side of over cooking rather than under. I always order my steaks rare when I really want medium rare. I was in a very good steak house in Richmond & ordered rare & actually got rare. I had to send it back for a bit more cooking. MM I have no idea if they reheated it or sent me another steak. I would guess reheated because it would be terribly expensive to throw away every steak that is sent back.
That is why the server will typically go to great lengths to explain what "rare" means to them. A good server will anyway. If you got a steak back that had not been cut into, then you got a new steak.

Its the primary reason steak isn't served on the menu at a typical restaurant. It's too expensive to toss out and recook. A steak place will cook it correctly and knows what they are getting into. They will just toss it. Or a server will eat it, or a cook will eat it. That's the norm.

Almost all restaurants in Nebraska have steak on the menu except fast food joints.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

I don't think that is typical Husker. Steak is probably more of a regional item for you.

Tinydancer · Guru

I'm in RI and steak is on just about every menu here as well. It's hard to find a restaurant that does offer steak, except the fast food joints and even some of them carry steak on the menu.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Really? That's interesting. Most restaurants in the cities I have lived in dont have steak on the menu, or they will have 1 item. It just doesn't get ordered because people don't order it due to the health reasons associated with red meat. Not that I agree or disagree. It just is hard to find outside a steak house.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

Most restaurants here do offer a steak or two. I rarely order it though. I go with sea food if it is a nice restaurant or chicken if it a chain.

Ohfour · Hooker

Yeah, I think just about every place around here offers steak, just not necessairily good ones...

Heck, even Waffle House and Shoney's offer a few kinds of steak! I actually can't think of anywhere but places that have a drive through that don't offer some kind of steak...

www.shoneys.com/entrees/

www.wafflehouse.com/images/stories/MenuBack_13.jpg

-- Edited by Ohfour on Monday 5th of January 2015 04:19:30 PM

Sin City Girl · Member

I can't think of a restaurant that doesn't offer a steak. Maybe McCormick & Schmidt, but I didn't like it the only time I went.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

Ohfour wrote:
Yeah, I think just about every place around here offers steak, just not necessairily good ones...

Heck, even Waffle House and Shoney's offer a few kinds of steak! I actually can't think of anywhere but places that have a drive through that don't offer some kind of steak...

www.shoneys.com/entrees/

www.wafflehouse.com/images/stories/MenuBack_13.jpg

-- Edited by Ohfour on Monday 5th of January 2015 04:19:30 PM

Taco Bell offers steak in their burritos & bowls biggrin I would never in a million years order it but they do offer it.

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
Yeah, I think just about every place around here offers steak, just not necessairily good ones...

Heck, even Waffle House and Shoney's offer a few kinds of steak! I actually can't think of anywhere but places that have a drive through that don't offer some kind of steak...

www.shoneys.com/entrees/

www.wafflehouse.com/images/stories/MenuBack_13.jpg

-- Edited by Ohfour on Monday 5th of January 2015 04:19:30 PM

Well, there's that.

I'm from Nebraska, so I'm spoiled. I can go to my freezer and pull out a 3 year old sirloin and it will be better than most ribeyes or T-bones you can get most places.

It was even better when we used to hand feed our beef. All they did all day was eat corn and burp. MMMMM!!!!

Now, we still home raise them, but not the way we used to.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Mellow Momma wrote:
Lexxy wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Better too rare than too done.
Absolutely. Most of the time restaurants tend to err on the side of over cooking rather than under. I always order my steaks rare when I really want medium rare. I was in a very good steak house in Richmond & ordered rare & actually got rare. I had to send it back for a bit more cooking. MM I have no idea if they reheated it or sent me another steak. I would guess reheated because it would be terribly expensive to throw away every steak that is sent back.
That is why the server will typically go to great lengths to explain what "rare" means to them. A good server will anyway. If you got a steak back that had not been cut into, then you got a new steak.

Its the primary reason steak isn't served on the menu at a typical restaurant. It's too expensive to toss out and recook. A steak place will cook it correctly and knows what they are getting into. They will just toss it. Or a server will eat it, or a cook will eat it. That's the norm.

I've seen steak on the menu at every regular restaurant I've been to, pretty much. You can even get it at IHOP and Denny's. Maybe not a great steak, but it's available.

WYSIWYG · Guru

"Better too rare than too done." - huskerbb

That's the most important consideration for me. I prefer rare to medium-rare, but if given the option, I'd pick a blue-rare steak over a well-done steak, any day of the week, and twice on Sundays.

A-1 should be reserved for hamburgers. As the commercial says, "it's not chopped ham, it's chopped steak".

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Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

WYSIWYG wrote:
"Better too rare than too done." - huskerbb

That's the most important consideration for me. I prefer rare to medium-rare, but if given the option, I'd pick a blue-rare steak over a well-done steak, any day of the week, and twice on Sundays.

A-1 should be reserved for hamburgers. As the commercial says, "it's not chopped ham, it's chopped steak".

Waitresses tend to look at me sideways when I say not to put mayo or anything on my burger - just bring me A-1. It makes a burger so much better.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

There isn't only ONE way to cook an egg. So, why is there some "rule" about beef? Ridiculous.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I have eaten at Taco bell and Ihop. And, I have had the Taco Bell Steak taco or burrito and it tastes good. Sorry, I dont' get all the "food snobbery" nowadays like someone is too good to wolf down a burger at a fast food place or something. Yeah, I can eat at fast food or I can eat upscale. Either way, I can probably find something to eat.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

This is like having a battle of which is the "proper way" to eat an egg. The sunny side uppers versus the Over Easys!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

And, if you eat a scrambled egg versus an omelet, then you really are white trailer park trash!

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Solution: Don't eat eggs.

They are nasty.

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

Just have bacon. It's yummy!

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Tinydancer wrote:
Just have bacon. It's yummy!

Can you tell that I am NOT a breakfast person?

I can't stand ham or sausage either.

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

I've read what you eat for breakfast...lol. No wonder you don't like it.