TOTALLY GEEKED!

Lawyerlady wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Bonny22Pye wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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Bonny22Pye wrote:

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I'm in the camp of the parent who stays home does the cooking, cleaning, shopping, basic running a household stuff. That's their job. There is nothing wrong with being a domestic engineer. All kids should have chores so they contribute to the household and learn how to do things. They need to learn also that each parent whether working in or outside the home is valuably contributing to the household. It's not being a maid, it's running a home. Which is very hard work when done correctly.

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 Yes.

 

I think the main difference is that while the SAHM runs the house, keeps it basically clean, does the shopping, laundry, etc. - each other household member should NOT be treating her like their maid.  The laundry should be in the hamper and once kids are big enough, they should be carrying full hampers to the laundry room.  The mom should not be picking up clothes off the floor.  After mom washes the clothes - kids should be putting them away.  Dishes should be scraped clean and put in the sink or dishwasher - whatever the preference of the parents.  People should wipe their toothpaste spit out of the sink, and basically clean up after themselves. 

The stay at home parent is NOT a maid, they are the household "manager".  And a good manager knows how to delegate. 

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 But why should they be able to delegate all of their "chores" to the spouse who doesn't stay home? 

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 Who said delegate all the chores?

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We were just told that they are a manager and a manager delegates.  It said nothing about the manager doing anything else.   

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 Really?  Try reading the bolded again. 

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Then they aren't a manager.  

huskerbb wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Bonny22Pye wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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Bonny22Pye wrote:

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I'm in the camp of the parent who stays home does the cooking, cleaning, shopping, basic running a household stuff. That's their job. There is nothing wrong with being a domestic engineer. All kids should have chores so they contribute to the household and learn how to do things. They need to learn also that each parent whether working in or outside the home is valuably contributing to the household. It's not being a maid, it's running a home. Which is very hard work when done correctly.

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 Yes.

 

I think the main difference is that while the SAHM runs the house, keeps it basically clean, does the shopping, laundry, etc. - each other household member should NOT be treating her like their maid.  The laundry should be in the hamper and once kids are big enough, they should be carrying full hampers to the laundry room.  The mom should not be picking up clothes off the floor.  After mom washes the clothes - kids should be putting them away.  Dishes should be scraped clean and put in the sink or dishwasher - whatever the preference of the parents.  People should wipe their toothpaste spit out of the sink, and basically clean up after themselves. 

The stay at home parent is NOT a maid, they are the household "manager".  And a good manager knows how to delegate. 

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 But why should they be able to delegate all of their "chores" to the spouse who doesn't stay home? 

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 Who said delegate all the chores?

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We were just told that they are a manager and a manager delegates.  It said nothing about the manager doing anything else.   

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 Really?  Try reading the bolded again. 

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Then they aren't a manager.  

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 So managers have NO responsiblities that are theirs?  Don't tell my office manager that since she does the payroll, billing and book-keeping and other stuff, too.

huskerbb wrote:

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Then what does she delegate? Pencil sharpening and making coffee? Filling the stapler?

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 Data-entry for time-keeping, covering for other staff members, updating the website, the rest of the stuff that keeps the office running.

This is actually a job in the Northeast -

Responsibilities of Private Household Managers

Private household managers are responsible for overseeing the general operations of a home. A household manager job description and duties will vary depending on the size of the family, as well as the other staff the family retains. However, expectations may include:
•Managing the household’s schedules and calendars
•Event planning, organizing, and coordination
•Arranging appointments for personal and professional needs
•Scheduling home maintenance and repair work, and supervising the project
•Handling household bills and administrative duties
•Running errands and performing necessary tasks
•Supervision of other household staff, such as housekeepers, private chefs, nannies or governesses
•Shopping for food, supplies, and other requested items

Depending on the size of a family and their requirements, private household manager positions may be called upon to fulfill other needs, such as:
•Home cleaning duties
•Cooking meals for the family
•Laundering and putting away clothing, or changing linens
•Oversight of an employer’s finances and valuables

lilyofcourse wrote:

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I cant tell you the number of teens who would take their first job in a restaurant and not know how to do simple things like sweep and wash dishes.

To say these things are not chores that need to be learned and tasks that are not work is beyond ridiculous. It shows a complete and utter disrespect for those who have kept your clothes clean and your meals cooked and made sure the house was clean when you came home.

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 I agree !  Couldn't tell you how many kids I hired didn't know how to dust, use a Swiffer, clean a toilet...it was frustrating. And each one would say "my mom always did that for me". Inevitably it was a SAHM. For some reason, moms who worked outside the home tended to teach their kids more household chores. 

 

I tended to hire people with a lot of siblings - they usually knew how to work.