I don't remember where any of you stood on the issue of married men and strip clubs, but if any of you were/are against that, it's pretty laughable that you wouldn't trust your man to go to one of those--but would have no problem moving your slutty sister into the house.
Again, maybe none of you were that uptight, I can't remember, but I know some posters had strong feelings about it.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I don't remember where any of you stood on the issue of married men and strip clubs, but if any of you were/are against that, it's pretty laughable that you wouldn't trust your man to go to one of those--but would have no problem moving your slutty sister into the house.
Again, maybe none of you were that uptight, I can't remember, but I know some posters had strong feelings about it.
Yeah - I don't remember that conversation. I don't really care about strip clubs, but my DH doesn't go, so I haven't ever really had my feelings tested on the subject.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
I don't remember where any of you stood on the issue of married men and strip clubs, but if any of you were/are against that, it's pretty laughable that you wouldn't trust your man to go to one of those--but would have no problem moving your slutty sister into the house.
Again, maybe none of you were that uptight, I can't remember, but I know some posters had strong feelings about it.
Yeah - I don't remember that conversation. I don't really care about strip clubs, but my DH doesn't go, so I haven't ever really had my feelings tested on the subject.
I'm not saying you were one--I don't remember, specifically, but we had several conversations on it, and some posters felt pretty strongly about it.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
"If he is truly committed to his wife and to honoring his marriage vows, there wouldn't be any temptation."- chef
I disagree. I think the important issue is does he act on the temptation or not? huskerbb was very astute when he compared this to alcoholism and a bottle of alcohol. The temptation exists as long as the presence and/or possibility of actions exists. The existence of a temptation is only in our control insofar as we have the power to remove it from our presence. It's the acting on it or not acting on it that crosses, or doesn't cross, the line.
"If he is truly committed to his wife and to honoring his marriage vows, there wouldn't be any temptation."- chef
I disagree. I think the important issue is does he act on the temptation or not? huskerbb was very astute when he compared this to alcoholism and a bottle of alcohol. The temptation exists as long as the presence and/or possibility of actions exists. The existence of a temptation is only in our control insofar as we have the power to remove it from our presence. It's the acting on it or not acting on it that crosses, or doesn't cross, the line.
People can pretend otherwise all they want--but one of the most important factors in remaining faithful to a spouse, male or female, is to keep yourself out of situations where it could be a possibility. EVERYONE takes their wedding vows with the best of intentions--and I've never cheated on my wife.
However, that doesn't mean I'm looking for a scantily clad female roommate to share my house with in order to test the theory, either.
Things often happen when temptation is right there--work trips with a co-worker of the opposite sex, for example.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
"If he is truly committed to his wife and to honoring his marriage vows, there wouldn't be any temptation."- chef
I disagree. I think the important issue is does he act on the temptation or not? huskerbb was very astute when he compared this to alcoholism and a bottle of alcohol. The temptation exists as long as the presence and/or possibility of actions exists. The existence of a temptation is only in our control insofar as we have the power to remove it from our presence. It's the acting on it or not acting on it that crosses, or doesn't cross, the line.
Except if he drinks the booze - he's not breaking his marriage vows.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Get rid of the idiot husband who can't seem to keep his dick in his pants. Get rid of the sister who, like LL said, is a slutty little whore. Dump them both. Better yet, leave them both at home to have sex and go take a cruise and have fun. She deserves better than both of them.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
"If he is truly committed to his wife and to honoring his marriage vows, there wouldn't be any temptation."- chef
I disagree. I think the important issue is does he act on the temptation or not? huskerbb was very astute when he compared this to alcoholism and a bottle of alcohol. The temptation exists as long as the presence and/or possibility of actions exists. The existence of a temptation is only in our control insofar as we have the power to remove it from our presence. It's the acting on it or not acting on it that crosses, or doesn't cross, the line.
Except if he drinks the booze - he's not breaking his marriage vows.
Duh--but the comparison is the same. You give in to a temptation.
Infidelity happens--and it happens to a lot of people that took wedding vows. Again, I haven't cheated, but if a hot woman asked me to go to Hawaii with her for her bikini contest, I probably don't want to find out if that is beyond my limits of self control--and I don't think my wife would want me to test it, either.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Get rid of the idiot husband who can't seem to keep his dick in his pants. Get rid of the sister who, like LL said, is a slutty little whore. Dump them both. Better yet, leave them both at home to have sex and go take a cruise and have fun. She deserves better than both of them.
Where do you get that nonsense? There is ZERO indication that he has not done so.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
It's a choice. I had a man come on to me at the grocery store. Buying groceries for a family and wearing a wedding ring. I could say I didn't trust my emotions because, after all, I am a woman and can't control myself but the truth is I honor my marriage vows. All about choice.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
It's a choice. I had a man come on to me at the grocery store. Buying groceries for a family and wearing a wedding ring. I could say I didn't trust my emotions because, after all, I am a woman and can't control myself but the truth is I honor my marriage vows. All about choice.
But he's not living with you--and whether you can control yourself, or not, would your husband want you living with some other guy that he knows wants to have sex with you even if he had complete faith in you?
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Because he has a hard time not cheating on his wife with her sister. But I wouldn't expect you to feel any differently...
Who says he has a hard time? He just doesn't want it LIVING with him.
Why should he have to just "suck it up" and deal with it if it makes him uncomfortable in his own house.
As for your second comment--that's even more idiotic than the one you posted on the other thread since I've been married 23 years, together 28, and have never cheated on my spouse.
Good thing she doesn't have a little sister apparently..
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"If he is truly committed to his wife and to honoring his marriage vows, there wouldn't be any temptation."- chef
I disagree. I think the important issue is does he act on the temptation or not? huskerbb was very astute when he compared this to alcoholism and a bottle of alcohol. The temptation exists as long as the presence and/or possibility of actions exists. The existence of a temptation is only in our control insofar as we have the power to remove it from our presence. It's the acting on it or not acting on it that crosses, or doesn't cross, the line.
Except if he drinks the booze - he's not breaking his marriage vows.
Duh--but the comparison is the same. You give in to a temptation.
Infidelity happens--and it happens to a lot of people that took wedding vows. Again, I haven't cheated, but if a hot woman asked me to go to Hawaii with her for her bikini contest, I probably don't want to find out if that is beyond my limits of self control--and I don't think my wife would want me to test it, either.
That is really sad. You don't know what you would do? Seriously?
it could be an all expenses paid trip to his dream destination filled with free disease free hookers and my husband and would laugh and walk on by. The fact that you don't know what you would do is sad.
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Out of all the lies I have told, "just kidding" is my favorite !
It's a choice. I had a man come on to me at the grocery store. Buying groceries for a family and wearing a wedding ring. I could say I didn't trust my emotions because, after all, I am a woman and can't control myself but the truth is I honor my marriage vows. All about choice.
But he's not living with you--and whether you can control yourself, or not, would your husband want you living with some other guy that he knows wants to have sex with you even if he had complete faith in you?
My husband knows I would never cheat. If it came to letting someone live with us he would but we would work to find a way to get that person on their way.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
"If he is truly committed to his wife and to honoring his marriage vows, there wouldn't be any temptation."- chef
I disagree. I think the important issue is does he act on the temptation or not? huskerbb was very astute when he compared this to alcoholism and a bottle of alcohol. The temptation exists as long as the presence and/or possibility of actions exists. The existence of a temptation is only in our control insofar as we have the power to remove it from our presence. It's the acting on it or not acting on it that crosses, or doesn't cross, the line.
Except if he drinks the booze - he's not breaking his marriage vows.
Duh--but the comparison is the same. You give in to a temptation.
Infidelity happens--and it happens to a lot of people that took wedding vows. Again, I haven't cheated, but if a hot woman asked me to go to Hawaii with her for her bikini contest, I probably don't want to find out if that is beyond my limits of self control--and I don't think my wife would want me to test it, either.
That is really sad. You don't know what you would do? Seriously?
it could be an all expenses paid trip to his dream destination filled with free disease free hookers and my husband and would laugh and walk on by. The fact that you don't know what you would do is sad.
Yeah, he would walk on by--which is what I said. He would avoid that temptation.
-- Edited by huskerbb on Tuesday 13th of January 2015 12:01:02 AM
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Because he has a hard time not cheating on his wife with her sister. But I wouldn't expect you to feel any differently...
Who says he has a hard time? He just doesn't want it LIVING with him.
Why should he have to just "suck it up" and deal with it if it makes him uncomfortable in his own house.
As for your second comment--that's even more idiotic than the one you posted on the other thread since I've been married 23 years, together 28, and have never cheated on my spouse.
Good thing she doesn't have a little sister apparently..
LOL!
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
"If he is truly committed to his wife and to honoring his marriage vows, there wouldn't be any temptation."- chef
I disagree. I think the important issue is does he act on the temptation or not? huskerbb was very astute when he compared this to alcoholism and a bottle of alcohol. The temptation exists as long as the presence and/or possibility of actions exists. The existence of a temptation is only in our control insofar as we have the power to remove it from our presence. It's the acting on it or not acting on it that crosses, or doesn't cross, the line.
Except if he drinks the booze - he's not breaking his marriage vows.
Duh--but the comparison is the same. You give in to a temptation.
Infidelity happens--and it happens to a lot of people that took wedding vows. Again, I haven't cheated, but if a hot woman asked me to go to Hawaii with her for her bikini contest, I probably don't want to find out if that is beyond my limits of self control--and I don't think my wife would want me to test it, either.
That is really sad. You don't know what you would do? Seriously?
it could be an all expenses paid trip to his dream destination filled with free disease free hookers and my husband and would laugh and walk on by. The fact that you don't know what you would do is sad.
Well, apparently, fidelity is only warranted when there is not temptation every day.
What about the hot secretary at work?
What about the babysitter?
I mean, damn, if you are tempted to hit that sh!t in the house you share with your WIFE just because it's there.....
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Because he has a hard time not cheating on his wife with her sister. But I wouldn't expect you to feel any differently...
Who says he has a hard time? He just doesn't want it LIVING with him.
Why should he have to just "suck it up" and deal with it if it makes him uncomfortable in his own house.
As for your second comment--that's even more idiotic than the one you posted on the other thread since I've been married 23 years, together 28, and have never cheated on my spouse.
Good thing she doesn't have a little sister apparently..
Who?
If you are talking about me, then WTF are you babbling about? My wife has two younger sisters.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
All women are harlots. They need to stop walking by random men and tempting them.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
Because he has a hard time not cheating on his wife with her sister. But I wouldn't expect you to feel any differently...
Who says he has a hard time? He just doesn't want it LIVING with him.
Why should he have to just "suck it up" and deal with it if it makes him uncomfortable in his own house.
As for your second comment--that's even more idiotic than the one you posted on the other thread since I've been married 23 years, together 28, and have never cheated on my spouse.
Good thing she doesn't have a little sister apparently..
Who?
If you are talking about me, then WTF are you babbling about? My wife has two younger sisters.
Does she know she shouldn't let them come stay with you? That it would be her fault if she invited them to stay and you gave into that temptation?
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
"If he is truly committed to his wife and to honoring his marriage vows, there wouldn't be any temptation."- chef
I disagree. I think the important issue is does he act on the temptation or not? huskerbb was very astute when he compared this to alcoholism and a bottle of alcohol. The temptation exists as long as the presence and/or possibility of actions exists. The existence of a temptation is only in our control insofar as we have the power to remove it from our presence. It's the acting on it or not acting on it that crosses, or doesn't cross, the line.
Except if he drinks the booze - he's not breaking his marriage vows.
Duh--but the comparison is the same. You give in to a temptation.
Infidelity happens--and it happens to a lot of people that took wedding vows. Again, I haven't cheated, but if a hot woman asked me to go to Hawaii with her for her bikini contest, I probably don't want to find out if that is beyond my limits of self control--and I don't think my wife would want me to test it, either.
That is really sad. You don't know what you would do? Seriously?
it could be an all expenses paid trip to his dream destination filled with free disease free hookers and my husband and would laugh and walk on by. The fact that you don't know what you would do is sad.
Well, apparently, fidelity is only warranted when there is not temptation every day.
What about the hot secretary at work?
What about the babysitter?
I mean, damn, if you are tempted to hit that sh!t in the house you share with your WIFE just because it's there.....
There is temptation--not every day, though, and some temptations are more easily avoided than others.
But avoiding temptation is a good strategy for anything--alcohol, gambling, whatever.
If you are a gambler trying to quit--it's probably best you don't hang out at casinos.
Duh.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
"If he is truly committed to his wife and to honoring his marriage vows, there wouldn't be any temptation."- chef
I disagree. I think the important issue is does he act on the temptation or not? huskerbb was very astute when he compared this to alcoholism and a bottle of alcohol. The temptation exists as long as the presence and/or possibility of actions exists. The existence of a temptation is only in our control insofar as we have the power to remove it from our presence. It's the acting on it or not acting on it that crosses, or doesn't cross, the line.
Except if he drinks the booze - he's not breaking his marriage vows.
Duh--but the comparison is the same. You give in to a temptation.
Infidelity happens--and it happens to a lot of people that took wedding vows. Again, I haven't cheated, but if a hot woman asked me to go to Hawaii with her for her bikini contest, I probably don't want to find out if that is beyond my limits of self control--and I don't think my wife would want me to test it, either.
That is really sad. You don't know what you would do? Seriously?
it could be an all expenses paid trip to his dream destination filled with free disease free hookers and my husband and would laugh and walk on by. The fact that you don't know what you would do is sad.
Well, apparently, fidelity is only warranted when there is not temptation every day.
What about the hot secretary at work?
What about the babysitter?
I mean, damn, if you are tempted to hit that sh!t in the house you share with your WIFE just because it's there.....
There is temptation--not every day, though, and some temptations are more easily avoided than others.
But avoiding temptation is a good strategy for anything--alcohol, gambling, whatever.
If you are a gambler trying to quit--it's probably best you don't hang out at casinos.
Duh.
So you are an adulterer trying to quit?
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Because he has a hard time not cheating on his wife with her sister. But I wouldn't expect you to feel any differently...
Who says he has a hard time? He just doesn't want it LIVING with him.
Why should he have to just "suck it up" and deal with it if it makes him uncomfortable in his own house.
As for your second comment--that's even more idiotic than the one you posted on the other thread since I've been married 23 years, together 28, and have never cheated on my spouse.
Good thing she doesn't have a little sister apparently..
Who?
If you are talking about me, then WTF are you babbling about? My wife has two younger sisters.
Does she know she shouldn't let them come stay with you? That it would be her fault if she invited them to stay and you gave into that temptation?
??? WTF are you babbling about? Who said anything about them hitting on me? That is the situation. And if that WERE the situation, then I doubt if my wife would want them here. It has nothing to do with me, but with their betrayal (again, not saying they did that).
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
"If he is truly committed to his wife and to honoring his marriage vows, there wouldn't be any temptation."- chef
I disagree. I think the important issue is does he act on the temptation or not? huskerbb was very astute when he compared this to alcoholism and a bottle of alcohol. The temptation exists as long as the presence and/or possibility of actions exists. The existence of a temptation is only in our control insofar as we have the power to remove it from our presence. It's the acting on it or not acting on it that crosses, or doesn't cross, the line.
Except if he drinks the booze - he's not breaking his marriage vows.
Duh--but the comparison is the same. You give in to a temptation.
Infidelity happens--and it happens to a lot of people that took wedding vows. Again, I haven't cheated, but if a hot woman asked me to go to Hawaii with her for her bikini contest, I probably don't want to find out if that is beyond my limits of self control--and I don't think my wife would want me to test it, either.
That is really sad. You don't know what you would do? Seriously?
it could be an all expenses paid trip to his dream destination filled with free disease free hookers and my husband and would laugh and walk on by. The fact that you don't know what you would do is sad.
Well, apparently, fidelity is only warranted when there is not temptation every day.
What about the hot secretary at work?
What about the babysitter?
I mean, damn, if you are tempted to hit that sh!t in the house you share with your WIFE just because it's there.....
There is temptation--not every day, though, and some temptations are more easily avoided than others.
But avoiding temptation is a good strategy for anything--alcohol, gambling, whatever.
If you are a gambler trying to quit--it's probably best you don't hang out at casinos.
Duh.
So you are an adulterer trying to quit?
WTF are you talking about? I've never committed adultery.
That's an idiotic assertion, anyway. Some people have never gambled or drank--and don't want to. It's probably still easier to avoid that--if you avoid it.
-- Edited by huskerbb on Tuesday 13th of January 2015 12:10:06 AM
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
"If he is truly committed to his wife and to honoring his marriage vows, there wouldn't be any temptation."- chef
I disagree. I think the important issue is does he act on the temptation or not? huskerbb was very astute when he compared this to alcoholism and a bottle of alcohol. The temptation exists as long as the presence and/or possibility of actions exists. The existence of a temptation is only in our control insofar as we have the power to remove it from our presence. It's the acting on it or not acting on it that crosses, or doesn't cross, the line.
Except if he drinks the booze - he's not breaking his marriage vows.
Duh--but the comparison is the same. You give in to a temptation.
Infidelity happens--and it happens to a lot of people that took wedding vows. Again, I haven't cheated, but if a hot woman asked me to go to Hawaii with her for her bikini contest, I probably don't want to find out if that is beyond my limits of self control--and I don't think my wife would want me to test it, either.
That is really sad. You don't know what you would do? Seriously?
it could be an all expenses paid trip to his dream destination filled with free disease free hookers and my husband and would laugh and walk on by. The fact that you don't know what you would do is sad.
Well, apparently, fidelity is only warranted when there is not temptation every day.
What about the hot secretary at work?
What about the babysitter?
I mean, damn, if you are tempted to hit that sh!t in the house you share with your WIFE just because it's there.....
There is temptation--not every day, though, and some temptations are more easily avoided than others.
But avoiding temptation is a good strategy for anything--alcohol, gambling, whatever.
If you are a gambler trying to quit--it's probably best you don't hang out at casinos.
Duh.
So you are an adulterer trying to quit?
WTF are you talking about? I've never committed adultery.
Well, your analogies are about alcoholics being tempted by alcohol and gamblers being tempted by gambling. Those are addictions. So, for those analogies to work, you (or the guy in the OP) have to be a sex addict. And sex addicts usually cheat.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
"If he is truly committed to his wife and to honoring his marriage vows, there wouldn't be any temptation."- chef
I disagree. I think the important issue is does he act on the temptation or not? huskerbb was very astute when he compared this to alcoholism and a bottle of alcohol. The temptation exists as long as the presence and/or possibility of actions exists. The existence of a temptation is only in our control insofar as we have the power to remove it from our presence. It's the acting on it or not acting on it that crosses, or doesn't cross, the line.
Except if he drinks the booze - he's not breaking his marriage vows.
Duh--but the comparison is the same. You give in to a temptation.
Infidelity happens--and it happens to a lot of people that took wedding vows. Again, I haven't cheated, but if a hot woman asked me to go to Hawaii with her for her bikini contest, I probably don't want to find out if that is beyond my limits of self control--and I don't think my wife would want me to test it, either.
That is really sad. You don't know what you would do? Seriously?
it could be an all expenses paid trip to his dream destination filled with free disease free hookers and my husband and would laugh and walk on by. The fact that you don't know what you would do is sad.
Well, apparently, fidelity is only warranted when there is not temptation every day.
What about the hot secretary at work?
What about the babysitter?
I mean, damn, if you are tempted to hit that sh!t in the house you share with your WIFE just because it's there.....
There is temptation--not every day, though, and some temptations are more easily avoided than others.
But avoiding temptation is a good strategy for anything--alcohol, gambling, whatever.
If you are a gambler trying to quit--it's probably best you don't hang out at casinos.
Duh.
So you are an adulterer trying to quit?
WTF are you talking about? I've never committed adultery.
Well, your analogies are about alcoholics being tempted by alcohol and gamblers being tempted by gambling. Those are addictions. So, for those analogies to work, you (or the guy in the OP) have to be a sex addict. And sex addicts usually cheat.
No, my analogies are about temptations.
You don't have to be an alcoholic to not want to drink.
But take any vice you want--no matter what it is, by far the best way to avoid it, is to avoid it.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
"If he is truly committed to his wife and to honoring his marriage vows, there wouldn't be any temptation."- chef
I disagree. I think the important issue is does he act on the temptation or not? huskerbb was very astute when he compared this to alcoholism and a bottle of alcohol. The temptation exists as long as the presence and/or possibility of actions exists. The existence of a temptation is only in our control insofar as we have the power to remove it from our presence. It's the acting on it or not acting on it that crosses, or doesn't cross, the line.
Except if he drinks the booze - he's not breaking his marriage vows.
Duh--but the comparison is the same. You give in to a temptation.
Infidelity happens--and it happens to a lot of people that took wedding vows. Again, I haven't cheated, but if a hot woman asked me to go to Hawaii with her for her bikini contest, I probably don't want to find out if that is beyond my limits of self control--and I don't think my wife would want me to test it, either.
That is really sad. You don't know what you would do? Seriously?
it could be an all expenses paid trip to his dream destination filled with free disease free hookers and my husband and would laugh and walk on by. The fact that you don't know what you would do is sad.
Well, apparently, fidelity is only warranted when there is not temptation every day.
What about the hot secretary at work?
What about the babysitter?
I mean, damn, if you are tempted to hit that sh!t in the house you share with your WIFE just because it's there.....
There is temptation--not every day, though, and some temptations are more easily avoided than others.
But avoiding temptation is a good strategy for anything--alcohol, gambling, whatever.
If you are a gambler trying to quit--it's probably best you don't hang out at casinos.
Duh.
So you are an adulterer trying to quit?
WTF are you talking about? I've never committed adultery.
Well, your analogies are about alcoholics being tempted by alcohol and gamblers being tempted by gambling. Those are addictions. So, for those analogies to work, you (or the guy in the OP) have to be a sex addict. And sex addicts usually cheat.
No, my analogies are about temptations.
You don't have to be an alcoholic to not want to drink.
But take any vice you want--no matter what it is, by far the best way to avoid it, is to avoid it.
But people who are not alcoholics and don't want to drink, they don't have a problem being around it -it's not really a temptation at all. I have a dozen bottles of booze in the house, and I haven't drank any in months because it is not a temptation if I don't want to drink.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
"If he is truly committed to his wife and to honoring his marriage vows, there wouldn't be any temptation."- chef
I disagree. I think the important issue is does he act on the temptation or not? huskerbb was very astute when he compared this to alcoholism and a bottle of alcohol. The temptation exists as long as the presence and/or possibility of actions exists. The existence of a temptation is only in our control insofar as we have the power to remove it from our presence. It's the acting on it or not acting on it that crosses, or doesn't cross, the line.
Except if he drinks the booze - he's not breaking his marriage vows.
Duh--but the comparison is the same. You give in to a temptation.
Infidelity happens--and it happens to a lot of people that took wedding vows. Again, I haven't cheated, but if a hot woman asked me to go to Hawaii with her for her bikini contest, I probably don't want to find out if that is beyond my limits of self control--and I don't think my wife would want me to test it, either.
That is really sad. You don't know what you would do? Seriously?
it could be an all expenses paid trip to his dream destination filled with free disease free hookers and my husband and would laugh and walk on by. The fact that you don't know what you would do is sad.
Well, apparently, fidelity is only warranted when there is not temptation every day.
What about the hot secretary at work?
What about the babysitter?
I mean, damn, if you are tempted to hit that sh!t in the house you share with your WIFE just because it's there.....
There is temptation--not every day, though, and some temptations are more easily avoided than others.
But avoiding temptation is a good strategy for anything--alcohol, gambling, whatever.
If you are a gambler trying to quit--it's probably best you don't hang out at casinos.
Duh.
So you are an adulterer trying to quit?
WTF are you talking about? I've never committed adultery.
Well, your analogies are about alcoholics being tempted by alcohol and gamblers being tempted by gambling. Those are addictions. So, for those analogies to work, you (or the guy in the OP) have to be a sex addict. And sex addicts usually cheat.
No, my analogies are about temptations.
You don't have to be an alcoholic to not want to drink.
But take any vice you want--no matter what it is, by far the best way to avoid it, is to avoid it.
But people who are not alcoholics and don't want to drink, they don't have a problem being around it -it's not really a temptation at all. I have a dozen bottles of booze in the house, and I haven't drank any in months because it is not a temptation if I don't want to drink.
They don't have it in the house, either.
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
"If he is truly committed to his wife and to honoring his marriage vows, there wouldn't be any temptation."- chef
I disagree. I think the important issue is does he act on the temptation or not? huskerbb was very astute when he compared this to alcoholism and a bottle of alcohol. The temptation exists as long as the presence and/or possibility of actions exists. The existence of a temptation is only in our control insofar as we have the power to remove it from our presence. It's the acting on it or not acting on it that crosses, or doesn't cross, the line.
Except if he drinks the booze - he's not breaking his marriage vows.
Duh--but the comparison is the same. You give in to a temptation.
Infidelity happens--and it happens to a lot of people that took wedding vows. Again, I haven't cheated, but if a hot woman asked me to go to Hawaii with her for her bikini contest, I probably don't want to find out if that is beyond my limits of self control--and I don't think my wife would want me to test it, either.
That is really sad. You don't know what you would do? Seriously?
it could be an all expenses paid trip to his dream destination filled with free disease free hookers and my husband and would laugh and walk on by. The fact that you don't know what you would do is sad.
Well, apparently, fidelity is only warranted when there is not temptation every day.
What about the hot secretary at work?
What about the babysitter?
I mean, damn, if you are tempted to hit that sh!t in the house you share with your WIFE just because it's there.....
There is temptation--not every day, though, and some temptations are more easily avoided than others.
But avoiding temptation is a good strategy for anything--alcohol, gambling, whatever.
If you are a gambler trying to quit--it's probably best you don't hang out at casinos.
Duh.
So you are an adulterer trying to quit?
WTF are you talking about? I've never committed adultery.
Well, your analogies are about alcoholics being tempted by alcohol and gamblers being tempted by gambling. Those are addictions. So, for those analogies to work, you (or the guy in the OP) have to be a sex addict. And sex addicts usually cheat.
No, my analogies are about temptations.
You don't have to be an alcoholic to not want to drink.
But take any vice you want--no matter what it is, by far the best way to avoid it, is to avoid it.
But people who are not alcoholics and don't want to drink, they don't have a problem being around it -it's not really a temptation at all. I have a dozen bottles of booze in the house, and I haven't drank any in months because it is not a temptation if I don't want to drink.
They don't have it in the house, either.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
If a woman at a bar invites a married guy up to her hotel room for sex, should he say no--or should he go up there just to prove he can say no?
If any of you say that you would prefer the latter--you're a liar.
LOL! What on earth would the OP be doing in little sister's bedroom?
Oh, so it would be fine if the woman had a suite with more than one room?
You are full of crap You know darn well that keeping the temptation away--or not going to the temptation IS showing fidelity.
Have you been imbibing the alcohol tonight? The house would be like the hotel lobby and bar and the bedroom would be the hotel room. If OP is going into little sister's bedroom, that would make the temptation harder, I admit. So, he should avoid that.
I don't care how tempted a man is - he needs to say no if he is married. He is not a rutting stag.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
If a woman at a bar invites a married guy up to her hotel room for sex, should he say no--or should he go up there just to prove he can say no?
If any of you say that you would prefer the latter--you're a liar.
LOL! What on earth would the OP be doing in little sister's bedroom?
Oh, so it would be fine if the woman had a suite with more than one room?
You are full of crap You know darn well that keeping the temptation away--or not going to the temptation IS showing fidelity.
Have you been imbibing the alcohol tonight? The house would be like the hotel lobby and bar and the bedroom would be the hotel room. If OP is going into little sister's bedroom, that would make the temptation harder, I admit. So, he should avoid that.
I don't care how tempted a man is - he needs to say no if he is married. He is not a rutting stag.
But he's a man. He can't help it. He has no control.
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If a woman at a bar invites a married guy up to her hotel room for sex, should he say no--or should he go up there just to prove he can say no?
If any of you say that you would prefer the latter--you're a liar.
LOL! What on earth would the OP be doing in little sister's bedroom?
Oh, so it would be fine if the woman had a suite with more than one room?
You are full of crap You know darn well that keeping the temptation away--or not going to the temptation IS showing fidelity.
Have you been imbibing the alcohol tonight? The house would be like the hotel lobby and bar and the bedroom would be the hotel room. If OP is going into little sister's bedroom, that would make the temptation harder, I admit. So, he should avoid that.
I don't care how tempted a man is - he needs to say no if he is married. He is not a rutting stag.
But he's a man. He can't help it. He has no control.
Well, by golly! There's an empty "holster" just sitting there!
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Husker, they are not saying the sister should stay, regardless of the husbands feelings, or that the sister isn't doing something wrong. They are not saying the husband should just suck it up. They just don't like how the husband is saying "I'm a guy, after all", as though that excuses him from any future action he might take.
He does have control over whether or not he gives in, even though his words imply he doesn't - but he also shouldn't have to have someone living in his house, trying to get him to destroy his marriage.
Husker, they are not saying the sister should stay, regardless of the husbands feelings, or that the sister isn't doing something wrong. They are not saying the husband should just suck it up. They just don't like how the husband is saying "I'm a guy, after all", as though that excuses him from any future action he might take.
He does have control over whether or not he gives in, even though his words imply he doesn't - but he also shouldn't have to have someone living in his house, trying to get him to destroy his marriage.
Well said!
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I don't remember where any of you stood on the issue of married men and strip clubs, but if any of you were/are against that, it's pretty laughable that you wouldn't trust your man to go to one of those--but would have no problem moving your slutty sister into the house.
Again, maybe none of you were that uptight, I can't remember, but I know some posters had strong feelings about it.
Yeah - I don't remember that conversation. I don't really care about strip clubs, but my DH doesn't go, so I haven't ever really had my feelings tested on the subject.
Me neither. DH doesn't go to those either. Or, watch porn (that I know of, lol).
Because he has a hard time not cheating on his wife with her sister. But I wouldn't expect you to feel any differently...
Well, on this one I agree with Husker. The husband is clearly saying he doesn't want to cheat on his wife while her dumbass sister is throwing herself at him. I find it curious in sexual matters, the women are always these poor innocent victims and the men seem to have all the responsibility. She should be disgusted mostly with her Sister. Wow.
A man can't be alone with another woman that is not his wife and refuse her sexual advances? He's a poor excuse for a man and a husband.
He can--but why should he have to do so on a daily basis in HIS OWN HOUSE?
If it were his brother who was constantly hitting on the LW's wife, would it be just cool that she would have to fend off his brother's advances every day? Whether or not she would "give in" or not is irrelevant.
Why should he be faced with that any more that his wife should be were the situation reversed?
That's a separate issue from most of your original comment which says it would be hard on him to refuse.
OF COURSE the slutty sister shouldn't be welcome in her sister's house when she's continually making advances towards the husband. But not because it's too tempting for the husband - just because little sis is a stupid whore.
But that's now what you or anyone else has been saying.
What most have been saying is that SIL should be able to move in and he should deal with it no matter what.
No, we're saying DH is a dick because he thinks he can't control himself. That's a separate issue than her actually being there.
Well, the Bible doesn't say "Don't be tempted". Clearly people are tempted. What it does say is to "FLEE" from temptation. In other words, remove yourself from it. If baby sis is parading around under his nose 24/7 in his own home, I don't see how that makes him a "dick"?
A man can't be alone with another woman that is not his wife and refuse her sexual advances? He's a poor excuse for a man and a husband.
He can--but why should he have to do so on a daily basis in HIS OWN HOUSE?
If it were his brother who was constantly hitting on the LW's wife, would it be just cool that she would have to fend off his brother's advances every day? Whether or not she would "give in" or not is irrelevant.
Why should he be faced with that any more that his wife should be were the situation reversed?
Yes. It's HIS HOME. Why should he have to deal with that in HIS HOME?
A man can't be alone with another woman that is not his wife and refuse her sexual advances? He's a poor excuse for a man and a husband.
He can--but why should he have to do so on a daily basis in HIS OWN HOUSE?
If it were his brother who was constantly hitting on the LW's wife, would it be just cool that she would have to fend off his brother's advances every day? Whether or not she would "give in" or not is irrelevant.
Why should he be faced with that any more that his wife should be were the situation reversed?
That's a separate issue from most of your original comment which says it would be hard on him to refuse.
OF COURSE the slutty sister shouldn't be welcome in her sister's house when she's continually making advances towards the husband. But not because it's too tempting for the husband - just because little sis is a stupid whore.
But that's now what you or anyone else has been saying.
What most have been saying is that SIL should be able to move in and he should deal with it no matter what.
No, we're saying DH is a dick because he thinks he can't control himself. That's a separate issue than her actually being there.
Well, the Bible doesn't say "Don't be tempted". Clearly people are tempted. What it does say is to "FLEE" from temptation. In other words, remove yourself from it. If baby sis is parading around under his nose 24/7 in his own home, I don't see how that makes him a "dick"?
Because his attitude is that if he gives in to that temptation it won't be his fault. He can't be expected to withstand all that temptation over time because, well, he's a guy.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
This guy is already guilty of lusting after the SIL. He as much as admits it. So biblically he has already committed adultery.
Should the SIL live in the house? I don't know. Probably not more than a night or two. But that is true no matter what else is going on.
When a person, male or female, are in a committed relationship, they have a responsibility to protect that relationship. That means being conscious of their spouse and their feelings.
This couple probably have some damage already they are not aware of simply because the wife has ignored the LW's original complaints.
However, each is responsible for their own actions. And if he makes the choice to cheat, that will be his sole responsibility and no one else's.
He took the vows. His SIL did not.
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