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So a man has absolutely no ability to control himself? And no responsibility to do so.

So is that going to become a battle cry now? They did what ever they did because they are "just guys"?

Ridiculous.

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So a man has absolutely no ability to control himself? And no responsibility to do so.

So is that going to become a battle cry now? They did what ever they did because they are "just guys"?

Ridiculous.


 Nope, but in this ONE instance, the younger sister seems determined to seduce him. It's probably a game to her.

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Yes the sister is a slutty whore but you really don't think the husband can control himself?...lol. Let's just give him a pass to cheat because he's just a GUY after all and men certainly have no self control according to Husker. If she throws herself at him enough it's not his fault he gave in (heavy sarcasm here).

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Husker, you lose this one. Prudie thinks he's a cad, almost every single person that has posted here thinks he's a cad. You defending him doesn't say a whole lot for your values...



-- Edited by Ohfour on Tuesday 13th of January 2015 09:10:20 AM

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Husker, you lose this one. Prudie thinks he's a cad, every single person that has posted here thinks he's a cad. You defending him doesn't say a whole lot for your values...


 I don't necessarily think so. I'm sorry.

If he wanted to cheat with the sister, he could have done so.

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Husker, you lose this one. Prudie thinks he's a cad, every single person that has posted here thinks he's a cad. You defending him doesn't say a whole lot for your values...


 I don't necessarily think so. I'm sorry.

If he wanted to cheat with the sister, he could have done so.

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 I think looking for an excuse to cheat with the sister makes him a cad.



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I think the fact that he uses the "I'm just a guy, I can't help myself" makes him a cad and an idiot...lol

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Men and women deploy, for years at a time. And the ones that cheat are the ones that have a cheater's heart...NOT because they were living with temptations in their midst.

It is not about LOVING the other person enough to not cheat. It is about having enough self-respect and self-control.

And your alcoholic's analogy doesn't work unless the person is a sex-aholic. Alcoholism is not just about temptation or lack there of or the control over it. There are physical, psychological and emotional components involved. So if anything, you are actually PROVING Prudie's point.

If he cannot control himself, then there is something inherently wrong with HIM, inside HIM.



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Men and women deploy, for years at a time. And the ones that cheat are the ones that have a cheater's heart...NOT because they were living with temptations in their midst.

It is not about LOVING the other person enough to not cheat. It is about having enough self-respect and self-control.

And your alcoholic's analogy doesn't work unless the person is a sex-aholic. Alcoholism is not just about temptation or lack there of or the control over it. There are physical, psychological and emotional components involved. So if anything, you are actually PROVING Prudie's point.

If he cannot control himself, then there is something inherently wrong with HIM, inside HIM.


Correct. An alcoholic is an addict.  A compulsive gambler is an addict.  are you saying that guys that want to screw their wives sisters are addicts? 



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Men and women deploy, for years at a time. And the ones that cheat are the ones that have a cheater's heart...NOT because they were living with temptations in their midst.

It is not about LOVING the other person enough to not cheat. It is about having enough self-respect and self-control.

And your alcoholic's analogy doesn't work unless the person is a sex-aholic. Alcoholism is not just about temptation or lack there of or the control over it. There are physical, psychological and emotional components involved. So if anything, you are actually PROVING Prudie's point.

If he cannot control himself, then there is something inherently wrong with HIM, inside HIM.


 This.

It is so easy to place the blame elsewhere. The alcohol is in my house. The sister is in my house. Therefore, someone is going to pry my mouth open and pour that alcohol down my throat. Therefore, someone is going to force my stick into her vagina.

We live with temptation every single day of our lives. You make a choice, every single day of your life, to resist or give in to temptation.

Compare this to the gun in your house. Just because it's there, are you going to shoot someone and then blame it on the gun, because it was in your house?

The LW has a voice. He can use it to tell the sister to back off and mean it. I don't care if someone thinks it's a game to her, HE makes it a non-game, period. He can't control the sisters personality, but he sure as heck can control her actions under HIS roof.



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But the sister is actively trying to seduce him.

He has controlled himself so far, but he is admitting that it's not easy.

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But the sister is actively trying to seduce him.

He has controlled himself so far, but he is admitting that it's not easy.

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Then he is a loser.  I don't care how much she is trying to seduce him.  A real man would not even go there...

 



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flan327 wrote:

But the sister is actively trying to seduce him.

He has controlled himself so far, but he is admitting that it's not easy.

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The sister's actions belong to HER, not to him. HE owns his response.

Who said it would be easy? It's not.



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But the sister is actively trying to seduce him.

He has controlled himself so far, but he is admitting that it's not easy.

flan


The sister's actions belong to HER, not to him. HE owns his response.

Who said it would be easy? It's not.


 I am also wondering how he has told the sister to cut it out. Has he said it in a way that leaves no room for doubt? Has he stepped right up to her, looked directly in her eyes and said with force "stop this! I am not interested in having sex with you. You are making a fool of yourself!" Or is he not saying anything and just walking away? Is he saying no in a way that makes it seem like there is wiggle room? Because if he said it in a forceful way, it would take a truly psychotic woman to continue, most would run crying. 



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But the sister is actively trying to seduce him.

He has controlled himself so far, but he is admitting that it's not easy.

flan


The sister's actions belong to HER, not to him. HE owns his response.

Who said it would be easy? It's not.


 I am also wondering how he has told the sister to cut it out. Has he said it in a way that leaves no room for doubt? Has he stepped right up to her, looked directly in her eyes and said with force "stop this! I am not interested in having sex with you. You are making a fool of yourself!" Or is he not saying anything and just walking away? Is he saying no in a way that makes it seem like there is wiggle room? Because if he said it in a forceful way, it would take a truly psychotic woman to continue, most would run crying. 


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This is NOT about the sister.
This is about a man who may not be able to keep it in his pants, because....well, he can't.


You are full of crap.  If he was "unable" to keep it in his pants--he would have already had sex with her.

Why should someone have to live in their own house with a person or situation that makes them uncomfortable?

 

Turn the situation around.  Let's say it was his brother who was constantly hitting on the LW's wife.  Why should she have to put up with that on a daily basis by having him live with her?  It doesn't matter whether or not she would "give in"--she'd be faced with the situation of fending off his advances every day.

 


What a bunch of bull. My brother's wife can speak up for herself just as strongly as a man can. 

Or are you making this about rape? Is the LW's SIL going to rape him?

I don't care how many advances are made, slap the sh1t out of them.

You are only as uncomfortable as you allow yourself to be.

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So a man has absolutely no ability to control himself? And no responsibility to do so.

So is that going to become a battle cry now? They did what ever they did because they are "just guys"?

Ridiculous.


 Yes, he does--that's the point.

 

He does so by avoiding temptation in many cases.

 

Sure, the cute hairdresser is also a temptation--but I doubt too many wives are anxious to move her into the house, either.



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This is NOT about the sister.
This is about a man who may not be able to keep it in his pants, because....well, he can't.


You are full of crap.  If he was "unable" to keep it in his pants--he would have already had sex with her.

Why should someone have to live in their own house with a person or situation that makes them uncomfortable?

 

Turn the situation around.  Let's say it was his brother who was constantly hitting on the LW's wife.  Why should she have to put up with that on a daily basis by having him live with her?  It doesn't matter whether or not she would "give in"--she'd be faced with the situation of fending off his advances every day.

 


What a bunch of bull. My brother's wife can speak up for herself just as strongly as a man can. 

Or are you making this about rape? Is the LW's SIL going to rape him?

I don't care how many advances are made, slap the sh1t out of them.

You are only as uncomfortable as you allow yourself to be.

(Just know getting to back posts) 


 So he should slap his SIL????  How is that a better solution than not having her move into the house????  ABSURD.



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This is NOT about the sister.
This is about a man who may not be able to keep it in his pants, because....well, he can't.


You are full of crap.  If he was "unable" to keep it in his pants--he would have already had sex with her.

Why should someone have to live in their own house with a person or situation that makes them uncomfortable?

 

Turn the situation around.  Let's say it was his brother who was constantly hitting on the LW's wife.  Why should she have to put up with that on a daily basis by having him live with her?  It doesn't matter whether or not she would "give in"--she'd be faced with the situation of fending off his advances every day.

 


What a bunch of bull. My brother's wife can speak up for herself just as strongly as a man can. 

Or are you making this about rape? Is the LW's SIL going to rape him?

I don't care how many advances are made, slap the sh1t out of them.

You are only as uncomfortable as you allow yourself to be.

(Just know getting to back posts) 


 So he should slap his SIL????  How is that a better solution than not having her move into the house????  ABSURD.


If she needs a verbal slapping and it doesn't work, then yeah, slap her. I would have no fear of slapping a man to make him back off. Especially when you are in your own home. He doesn't have to slap her into next Wednesday, just a wake up tap up the back of the head. You know, Gibbs style.

 



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Do you think the SIL is going to live there forever?
If he can't handle a month or two, he's weak.

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just Czech wrote:
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This is NOT about the sister.
This is about a man who may not be able to keep it in his pants, because....well, he can't.


You are full of crap.  If he was "unable" to keep it in his pants--he would have already had sex with her.

Why should someone have to live in their own house with a person or situation that makes them uncomfortable?

 

Turn the situation around.  Let's say it was his brother who was constantly hitting on the LW's wife.  Why should she have to put up with that on a daily basis by having him live with her?  It doesn't matter whether or not she would "give in"--she'd be faced with the situation of fending off his advances every day.

 


What a bunch of bull. My brother's wife can speak up for herself just as strongly as a man can. 

Or are you making this about rape? Is the LW's SIL going to rape him?

I don't care how many advances are made, slap the sh1t out of them.

You are only as uncomfortable as you allow yourself to be.

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 So he should slap his SIL????  How is that a better solution than not having her move into the house????  ABSURD.


If she needs a verbal slapping and it doesn't work, then yeah, slap her. I would have no fear of slapping a man to make him back off. Especially when you are in your own home. He doesn't have to slap her into next Wednesday, just a wake up tap up the back of the head. You know, Gibbs style.

 


 Oh.  So he can get charged with assault and face legal consequences for reacting to a situation that he didn't want to have happen in the first place?

 

That has to be the stupidest thing you've ever posted.



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Do you think the SIL is going to live there forever?
If he can't handle a month or two, he's weak.


 Who cares if it is "forever" or not? 

 

Why would the wife want to bring that betrayal into her home? 

 

Where is the sister's loyalty and responsibility to not go after her sister's husband?

 

Even if he would 100% not "go there"--so what?  Why would the wife even want her sister there? 

I sure wouldn't have my brother live with me if it was clear that he wanted to bed my wife.  She shouldn't have to put up with that--and I wouldn't want someone that disloyal in my house, anyway.



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If she lays a had on him, he has every legal right to slap her. All she has to do is touch him in a sexual manner. That's assault.


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huskerbb wrote:
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Do you think the SIL is going to live there forever?
If he can't handle a month or two, he's weak.


 Who cares if it is "forever" or not? 

 

Why would the wife want to bring that betrayal into her home? 

 

Where is the sister's loyalty and responsibility to not go after her sister's husband?

 

Even if he would 100% not "go there"--so what?  Why would the wife even want her sister there? 

I sure wouldn't have my brother live with me if it was clear that he wanted to bed my wife.  She shouldn't have to put up with that--and I wouldn't want someone that disloyal in my house, anyway.


 The wife didn't bring betrayal into her home - she brought family in.  The fact that the man would even be tempted is disgusting.



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Do you think the SIL is going to live there forever?
If he can't handle a month or two, he's weak.


 Who cares if it is "forever" or not? 

 

Why would the wife want to bring that betrayal into her home? 

 

Where is the sister's loyalty and responsibility to not go after her sister's husband?

 

Even if he would 100% not "go there"--so what?  Why would the wife even want her sister there? 

I sure wouldn't have my brother live with me if it was clear that he wanted to bed my wife.  She shouldn't have to put up with that--and I wouldn't want someone that disloyal in my house, anyway.


 The wife didn't bring betrayal into her home - she brought family in.  The fact that the man would even be tempted is disgusting.


 So the SISTER bears ZERO responsibility for her actions?

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Do you think the SIL is going to live there forever?
If he can't handle a month or two, he's weak.


 Who cares if it is "forever" or not? 

 

Why would the wife want to bring that betrayal into her home? 

 

Where is the sister's loyalty and responsibility to not go after her sister's husband?

 

Even if he would 100% not "go there"--so what?  Why would the wife even want her sister there? 

I sure wouldn't have my brother live with me if it was clear that he wanted to bed my wife.  She shouldn't have to put up with that--and I wouldn't want someone that disloyal in my house, anyway.


 The wife didn't bring betrayal into her home - she brought family in.  The fact that the man would even be tempted is disgusting.


 Bullsh!t.  Her sister is the one who has been OVERTLY betraying her.  To date, her husband has done NOTHING wrong.  He wants to AVOID that, the sister does not. 



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If she lays a had on him, he has every legal right to slap her. All she has to do is touch him in a sexual manner. That's assault.


 NO WAY would the police see it that way in a he said, she said scenario.  His own wife won't even believe him.



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Betrayal is an ACT, not a maybe.
Verbal betrayal is verbal, not the actual, you know, ACT.


 Her sister is the one who acted.  She is the one who has made it clear she wants to sleep with her sister's husband.

 

Also, words can betray. 



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Besides that, you are accusing HIM of betraying his wife--when he has NOT "acted" on anything--and is trying to avoid doing so.

HIGHLY hypocritical.

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If she lays a had on him, he has every legal right to slap her. All she has to do is touch him in a sexual manner. That's assault.


 NO WAY would the police see it that way in a he said, she said scenario.  His own wife won't even believe him.


Sure they would.  All he would have to do is show them this letter proving that he was worried about her advances. 

I was grabbed by a father of one of the kids on my sons football team.  I went to the police.  They gave me this little device that recorded my conversations.  I called him and lit into him and he said that it wouldn't happen again and to please not tell his wife.  He's a registered sex offender now. 



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Besides that, you are accusing HIM of betraying his wife--when he has NOT "acted" on anything--and is trying to avoid doing so.

HIGHLY hypocritical.


The fact that he's even contemplating it is betrayal. 



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Besides that, you are accusing HIM of betraying his wife--when he has NOT "acted" on anything--and is trying to avoid doing so.

HIGHLY hypocritical.


Try reading. I did not say he ACTED on anything, yet. 



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Besides that, you are accusing HIM of betraying his wife--when he has NOT "acted" on anything--and is trying to avoid doing so.

HIGHLY hypocritical.


The fact that he's even contemplating it is betrayal. 


 He's NOT "contemplating" it. That is pure BS. 

He is trying to avoid it.



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Besides that, you are accusing HIM of betraying his wife--when he has NOT "acted" on anything--and is trying to avoid doing so.

HIGHLY hypocritical.


Try reading. I did not say he ACTED on anything, yet. 


 Yet you want his wife to divorce him for NOT DOING ANYTHING--and move her sister in who HAS done an act of betrayal. 

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Besides that, you are accusing HIM of betraying his wife--when he has NOT "acted" on anything--and is trying to avoid doing so.

HIGHLY hypocritical.


 Him not being able to control HIMSELF tells me he is pretty weak to begin with so yes they should get the sister out of the house and the husband as well. He's already willing to blame the sister for his weakness. The sister is beside the point if he is so easily influenced to do something.



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He is weak if he gives in. With that said I would not move my sister in if she was flirting with my husband. I wouldn't laugh it off. I'd be pissed.

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Besides that, you are accusing HIM of betraying his wife--when he has NOT "acted" on anything--and is trying to avoid doing so.

HIGHLY hypocritical.


The fact that he's even contemplating it is betrayal. 


 He's NOT "contemplating" it. That is pure BS. 

He is trying to avoid it.


 There is a difference between "trying" and "doing". He can DO the avoiding part if he chooses.



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Besides that, you are accusing HIM of betraying his wife--when he has NOT "acted" on anything--and is trying to avoid doing so.

HIGHLY hypocritical.


 Him not being able to control HIMSELF tells me he is pretty weak to begin with so yes they should get the sister out of the house and the husband as well. He's already willing to blame the sister for his weakness. The sister is beside the point if he is so easily influenced to do something.


 Where do you even get your nonsense?  How has he NOT "controlled" himself?  He absolutely has.   He just doesn't want her moving into his house. 

 

 



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Besides that, you are accusing HIM of betraying his wife--when he has NOT "acted" on anything--and is trying to avoid doing so.

HIGHLY hypocritical.


The fact that he's even contemplating it is betrayal. 


 He's NOT "contemplating" it. That is pure BS. 

He is trying to avoid it.


 There is a difference between "trying" and "doing". He can DO the avoiding part if he chooses.


 And HOW you avoid it is to NOT have her move into the house.  That IS "doing the avoiding part". 



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Besides that, you are accusing HIM of betraying his wife--when he has NOT "acted" on anything--and is trying to avoid doing so.

HIGHLY hypocritical.


Try reading. I did not say he ACTED on anything, yet. 


 Yet you want his wife to divorce him for NOT DOING ANYTHING--and move her sister in who HAS done an act of betrayal. 

Highly hypocritical.


I never said anything about divorce. Where are you getting that from? 



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Besides that, you are accusing HIM of betraying his wife--when he has NOT "acted" on anything--and is trying to avoid doing so.

HIGHLY hypocritical.


The fact that he's even contemplating it is betrayal. 


 He's NOT "contemplating" it. That is pure BS. 

He is trying to avoid it.


 There is a difference between "trying" and "doing". He can DO the avoiding part if he chooses.


 And HOW you avoid it is to NOT have her move into the house.  That IS "doing the avoiding part". 


Gosh, he must be extremely WEAK! 



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So a man has absolutely no ability to control himself? And no responsibility to do so.

So is that going to become a battle cry now? They did what ever they did because they are "just guys"?

Ridiculous.


 Yes, he does--that's the point.

 

He does so by avoiding temptation in many cases.

 

Sure, the cute hairdresser is also a temptation--but I doubt too many wives are anxious to move her into the house, either.


 So if and WHEN he does cheat and they end up divorced, the wife should have chosen better.

But he is just a victim of a hard dick?

A stiff dick hath no conscious.

 



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Besides that, you are accusing HIM of betraying his wife--when he has NOT "acted" on anything--and is trying to avoid doing so.

HIGHLY hypocritical.


 Him not being able to control HIMSELF tells me he is pretty weak to begin with so yes they should get the sister out of the house and the husband as well. He's already willing to blame the sister for his weakness. The sister is beside the point if he is so easily influenced to do something.


 Where do you even get your nonsense?  How has he NOT "controlled" himself?  He absolutely has.   He just doesn't want her moving into his house. 

 

 


 You're the one spouting nonsense about how if the sister stays he won't be able to help himself. You know because he's a man and men have no self control...lol



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just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:

Besides that, you are accusing HIM of betraying his wife--when he has NOT "acted" on anything--and is trying to avoid doing so.

HIGHLY hypocritical.


The fact that he's even contemplating it is betrayal. 


 He's NOT "contemplating" it. That is pure BS. 

He is trying to avoid it.


 There is a difference between "trying" and "doing". He can DO the avoiding part if he chooses.


 And HOW you avoid it is to NOT have her move into the house.  That IS "doing the avoiding part". 


Gosh, he must be extremely WEAK! 


Seriously...geez...how about a little self control?  Oh I forgot, he's a guy... 



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just Czech wrote:
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just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
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Besides that, you are accusing HIM of betraying his wife--when he has NOT "acted" on anything--and is trying to avoid doing so.

HIGHLY hypocritical.


The fact that he's even contemplating it is betrayal. 


 He's NOT "contemplating" it. That is pure BS. 

He is trying to avoid it.


 There is a difference between "trying" and "doing". He can DO the avoiding part if he chooses.


 And HOW you avoid it is to NOT have her move into the house.  That IS "doing the avoiding part". 


Gosh, he must be extremely WEAK! 


 You are full of sh!t.  If he were "extremely weak"--he would have already laid her. 



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Tinydancer wrote:
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Besides that, you are accusing HIM of betraying his wife--when he has NOT "acted" on anything--and is trying to avoid doing so.

HIGHLY hypocritical.


 Him not being able to control HIMSELF tells me he is pretty weak to begin with so yes they should get the sister out of the house and the husband as well. He's already willing to blame the sister for his weakness. The sister is beside the point if he is so easily influenced to do something.


 Where do you even get your nonsense?  How has he NOT "controlled" himself?  He absolutely has.   He just doesn't want her moving into his house. 

 

 


 You're the one spouting nonsense about how if the sister stays he won't be able to help himself. You know because he's a man and men have no self control...lol


 He might not--he is certainly concerned about it.  But even if he is 100% sure he won't--why move her into the house?  Why should he have to deal with it on a daily basis in his own home? 



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huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
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Besides that, you are accusing HIM of betraying his wife--when he has NOT "acted" on anything--and is trying to avoid doing so.

HIGHLY hypocritical.


The fact that he's even contemplating it is betrayal. 


 He's NOT "contemplating" it. That is pure BS. 

He is trying to avoid it.


 There is a difference between "trying" and "doing". He can DO the avoiding part if he chooses.


 And HOW you avoid it is to NOT have her move into the house.  That IS "doing the avoiding part". 


Gosh, he must be extremely WEAK! 


 You are full of sh!t.  If he were "extremely weak"--he would have already laid her. 


And you are full of sh!t if you think he can't handle temptation for a few weeks. And yeah, that does make him weak, IMHO. 



-- Edited by just Czech on Tuesday 13th of January 2015 01:05:47 PM

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