DEAR MISS MANNERS: At the funeral of a good friend last week, a baby at the back of the church fussed and fretted nearly the entire time. She didn't exactly howl, but she was very noisy.
It was difficult to appreciate the service and the memorials because I was so irritated. Even during a regular church service, this would have been distracting, but I feel that a funeral is no place for a baby.
Who, if anyone, should have suggested that the parent remove the child? I didn't feel it was my place.
GENTLE READER: A funeral is no place for crying? Perhaps the baby was expressing her grief. Would you have requested the same from a similarly distraught adult?
If you promise not to betray your irritation, Miss Manners will allow that you or a member of the congregation could have asked if the parent wouldn't mind stepping out to attend to the baby's needs in private. But if this was refused on the grounds that they were entitled to their sorrow, then you must accept it.
Did we already have a thread on this one? Sounds familiar.
IMO a crying baby doesn't belong at a funeral.
Especially because a eulogy is a precious, one-time thing, and people deserve to be able to hear it.
I was PO'ed at my own nephew's babbling at my sister's funeral, because he was drowning out the eulogy, and nobody had the common sense to take him out.
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I know when my paternal grandfather died, granny loved having C around at the funeral home. She would ask about her every time I took her out to the break area. Seemed it helped her having a little one around.
During the funeral my other grandmother came to take care of C for me. She sat in the back with her. C didn't make any noise.
Maybe that is the difference.
I know as soon as the service was over granny wanted C.
I know it depends on the family and how they do things. I don't think there is a right or wrong in these situations.
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I'm tired of having to pretend that a crying baby is not a problem. I recently went to a wedding where a baby cried throughout the most important part. Someone can pretend that the crying adds to the ceremony somehow, but the truth is it ruins it. And those parents were selfish beyond words to not take the baby out.
I agree. I took my kids absolutely everywhere when they were babies. But as soon as they started fussing, one of us left with them. If it was my family/friends then DH left with the baby and vice versa. It doesn't take a genius to sort it out.
-- Edited by Mellow Momma on Saturday 17th of January 2015 06:34:03 PM
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I agree that a truly fussy baby should be removed.
However there are those who think a baby making even the simplest and quietest sounds for the briefest second is too much.
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I think cooing and babbling is ok if it isn't constant. If it is constant throughout the ceremony it is distracting and sometimes louder than the speaker. In that case, the baby should be removed. The baby isn't why people are assembled. They are there to hear the speaker and anyone who makes that difficult should excuse themselves - coughers too.
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I think cooing and babbling is ok if it isn't constant. If it is constant throughout the ceremony it is distracting and sometimes louder than the speaker. In that case, the baby should be removed. The baby isn't why people are assembled. They are there to hear the speaker and anyone who makes that difficult should excuse themselves - coughers too.
An occasional burp, or coo. No problem.
If the baby is crying, at the top of it's lungs. Get out!
Although I got stuck in the middle of a pew one time and I started coughing and could not stop. I couldn't get out either. The harder I tried to control it, the worse it got. Of course I became embarrassed and that made me hot and that made the coughing worse.
Some one finally handed me a peppermint. I don't know where it came from.
Gosh I was embarrassed.
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I agree with MM. Normal baby sounds are fine. But I take kids out if they start getting above a normal volume.
I was at a memorial with Baby A a few weeks ago and spent most of the time in the car. She was not crying but she was playing loudly and it didn't seem respectful.
A friend got married and her sister and BIL were in the wedding. They had a newborn. I volunteered to hold the baby during the service so the family could enjoy the wedding. The MOB begged the bride to let me do it, but Aunt Matilda offered and the bride didn't want to offend her. I gently said "will Aunt Matilda be ok if she has to leave and miss most of the ceremony ?" Oh yes of course she would be fine.
Well don't you know that baby wailed through the entire ceremony and Auntie didn't move a muscle. They even had a quiet room at the back where you could see the entire ceremony still. Nope. She didn't flinch. The bride was pissed, but the MOB spent the whole reception telling her "you should have let MM hold the baby. I told you so!" It was awful.
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Out of all the lies I have told, "just kidding" is my favorite !
A friend got married and her sister and BIL were in the wedding. They had a newborn. I volunteered to hold the baby during the service so the family could enjoy the wedding. The MOB begged the bride to let me do it, but Aunt Matilda offered and the bride didn't want to offend her. I gently said "will Aunt Matilda be ok if she has to leave and miss most of the ceremony ?" Oh yes of course she would be fine.
Well don't you know that baby wailed through the entire ceremony and Auntie didn't move a muscle. They even had a quiet room at the back where you could see the entire ceremony still. Nope. She didn't flinch. The bride was pissed, but the MOB spent the whole reception telling her "you should have let MM hold the baby. I told you so!" It was awful.
I think it depends. If it is immediate family and they choose to bring a baby to honor grandpa or what ever then that us the prerogative of the mourners. If it is some distant cousin or friend bringing a baby then they should be more thoughtful.
A friend got married and her sister and BIL were in the wedding. They had a newborn. I volunteered to hold the baby during the service so the family could enjoy the wedding. The MOB begged the bride to let me do it, but Aunt Matilda offered and the bride didn't want to offend her. I gently said "will Aunt Matilda be ok if she has to leave and miss most of the ceremony ?" Oh yes of course she would be fine.
Well don't you know that baby wailed through the entire ceremony and Auntie didn't move a muscle. They even had a quiet room at the back where you could see the entire ceremony still. Nope. She didn't flinch. The bride was pissed, but the MOB spent the whole reception telling her "you should have let MM hold the baby. I told you so!" It was awful.
That is bad all around. If I was the mother of the baby I would not be able to just stand there while my baby was screaming with nothing being done about it.