"They don't cheat on each other but they do have sex with other people?
Cause that sounds a lot like cheating to me." - Mellow Momma
Doesn't sound like it to me. Sounds like an open relationship with a blessing, by the significant other, to have other partners.
Just because your spouse knows about it, doesn't mean it isn't cheating. But the example given by jlbear is different because the couple isn't married.
BS. Cheating automatically implies deception. If there is no deception, it's not "cheating". It may not be a lifestyle that you or I choose or approve of--but we don't have to practice it in our marriages, but it's not "cheating".
But it's still adultery.
According to who? The Bible--of course it is. We already went over that. The Bible describes adultery as even "lust" for anyone who is not your spouse. Pre-marital sex, living together without marriage--are also adultery.
That's not, however, as we've seen a useful definition for most people to base relationship decisions on.
For a couple who arranges their marriage like this, they are not going to consider it adultery any more than a "normal" couple would consider watching "Magic Mike" or reading the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue as "adultery".
The DEFINITION of adultery.
a·dul·ter·y
əˈdəlt(ə)rē/
noun
noun: adultery; plural noun: adulteries
voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not his or her spouse.
???? So what?
Call it whatever you want--it's not going to make any difference to those who practice it. You are still using the Biblical definition at the end of the day.
Are you saying they should divorce their spouse when they both AGREE to live this lifestyle? If not, then what do you care what they do or what to call it?
So, you can talk about how "cheating automatically implies deception" so it's not cheating - but the very valid point that sex outside your marriage is adultery is a "so what". Whatever, Husker.
Why is it "valid"? Valid for what?
I've said that it's adultery--as is pre-marital sex, cohabitation without marriage, even lust.
Who cares? What is your point? That it is, in fact, adultery? Ok, now what? That is meaningless.
Again, valid for what? To whom?
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
So? Lots of thing people do are that--we are even trying to legalize and legitimize much of it.
So you think it's "icky". Then don't do it. No one cares what you think.
God does.
LOL!!! Duh. I already said that. I said that the Bible considers even lust to be adultery--but that is not a useful definition for two people to base relationship decisions on.
Again, what is your point? That these people are doing something you and God don't approve of? Duh.
They don't care what you think, and may or may not care what God thinks (I don't know if they are religious any more than you)--but even if they do, that is between them and God.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
So? Lots of thing people do are that--we are even trying to legalize and legitimize much of it.
So you think it's "icky". Then don't do it. No one cares what you think.
God does.
LOL!!! Duh. I already said that. I said that the Bible considers even lust to be adultery--but that is not a useful definition for two people to base relationship decisions on.
Again, what is your point? That these people are doing something you and God don't approve of? Duh.
They don't care what you think, and may or may not care what God thinks (I don't know if they are religious any more than you)--but even if they do, that is between them and God.
Did you even READ the OP? Child is upset because she found out her CHRISTIAN parents are swingers. And no - when it affects their family, it is not just between them and God.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
So? Lots of thing people do are that--we are even trying to legalize and legitimize much of it.
So you think it's "icky". Then don't do it. No one cares what you think.
Do you really understand what you post?
So? So?
Just because something is common and even legal doesn't make it right.
I am beginning to believe you take which ever side is the most confrontational to any post and argue it till you run out of arguments for the simple sake of arguing.
I really cant believe someone who claims to e so versed and educated and grounded in the Bible is going to sit back and say what you just said.
Are you going to follow blindly along with the rest of the world or are you going to stand up for what is right?
And I know you are going to twist this into some rant about not knowing what I am babbling about.
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
So? Lots of thing people do are that--we are even trying to legalize and legitimize much of it.
So you think it's "icky". Then don't do it. No one cares what you think.
Do you really understand what you post?
So? So?
Just because something is common and even legal doesn't make it right.
I am beginning to believe you take which ever side is the most confrontational to any post and argue it till you run out of arguments for the simple sake of arguing.
I really cant believe someone who claims to e so versed and educated and grounded in the Bible is going to sit back and say what you just said.
Are you going to follow blindly along with the rest of the world or are you going to stand up for what is right?
And I know you are going to twist this into some rant about not knowing what I am babbling about.
Bingo!
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
So? Lots of thing people do are that--we are even trying to legalize and legitimize much of it.
So you think it's "icky". Then don't do it. No one cares what you think.
God does.
LOL!!! Duh. I already said that. I said that the Bible considers even lust to be adultery--but that is not a useful definition for two people to base relationship decisions on.
Again, what is your point? That these people are doing something you and God don't approve of? Duh.
They don't care what you think, and may or may not care what God thinks (I don't know if they are religious any more than you)--but even if they do, that is between them and God.
Did you even READ the OP? Child is upset because she found out her CHRISTIAN parents are swingers. And no - when it affects their family, it is not just between them and God.
But if the child is an adult who has moved out of the house-is it even her business anymore?
So? Lots of thing people do are that--we are even trying to legalize and legitimize much of it.
So you think it's "icky". Then don't do it. No one cares what you think.
God does.
LOL!!! Duh. I already said that. I said that the Bible considers even lust to be adultery--but that is not a useful definition for two people to base relationship decisions on.
Again, what is your point? That these people are doing something you and God don't approve of? Duh.
They don't care what you think, and may or may not care what God thinks (I don't know if they are religious any more than you)--but even if they do, that is between them and God.
Did you even READ the OP? Child is upset because she found out her CHRISTIAN parents are swingers. And no - when it affects their family, it is not just between them and God.
How does it "affect" the child? Are they forcing her to watch?
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
So? Lots of thing people do are that--we are even trying to legalize and legitimize much of it.
So you think it's "icky". Then don't do it. No one cares what you think.
Do you really understand what you post?
So? So?
Just because something is common and even legal doesn't make it right.
I am beginning to believe you take which ever side is the most confrontational to any post and argue it till you run out of arguments for the simple sake of arguing.
I really cant believe someone who claims to e so versed and educated and grounded in the Bible is going to sit back and say what you just said.
Are you going to follow blindly along with the rest of the world or are you going to stand up for what is right?
And I know you are going to twist this into some rant about not knowing what I am babbling about.
Where did I say it was "right"?
Again, so what? They don't give a crap what you think, or me.
I don't even get your point.
Ok, so its "wrong". There, happy now? That changes NOTHING.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
So the daughter found out her parents were sinful, flawed people.
That applies to ALL parents, everywhere.
Are lily and LL saying that they never sin? Uh-huh.
So you are saying that purposely swapping sexual partners outside your marriage while teaching your children Christian values is just normal, run of the day sinning? That's not even morally sound to people who are not religious.
Why on EARTH are you arguing that this is perfectly ok?
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
So the daughter found out her parents were sinful, flawed people.
That applies to ALL parents, everywhere.
Are lily and LL saying that they never sin? Uh-huh.
So you are saying that purposely swapping sexual partners outside your marriage while teaching your children Christian values is just normal, run of the day sinning? That's not even morally sound to people who are not religious.
Why on EARTH are you arguing that this is perfectly ok?
Where did I say it was "ok"????
What I said was what damn difference does it make to you?
Also, yes, it is "normal everyday sinning". In God's eyes, a sin is a sin is a sin. It's humans who want to differentiate between those so that they can feel like they are "better" than others.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I don't know WTF is wrong with you today, Husker - but you owe me an apology, and you'd best delete that comment.
Good luck there.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
He didn't say "LL you're a whore" just like he didn't say women on this board are **** holsters. Shrug. It makes a difference when you think it's about you though doesn't it?
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Lesson learned in February: I don't have to keep up, I just have to keep moving!
I am curious to see how this plays out. But I think we all know already.
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
He didn't say "LL you're a whore" just like he didn't say women on this board are **** holsters. Shrug. It makes a difference when you think it's about you though doesn't it?
And the nail has been hit right on the head...
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
Huh. I might be wrong here ladies but the new ban post might indicate someone finally crossed the line. Interesting. We all know where I stand on this so I won't beat the dead horse but damn.
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I'm the Ginger Rogers of spelling...that means I'm smat.
Lesson learned in February: I don't have to keep up, I just have to keep moving!
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
So you don't even know why or think you have nothing to apologize about? That is a fake and sarcastic apology.
But whatever.
I think we all know the score around here.
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
So you don't even know why or think you have nothing to apologize about? That is a fake and sarcastic apology.
But whatever.
I think we all know the score around here.
Pretty much. Fake apology. Sarcasm. Status quo remains the same.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
He didn't say "LL you're a whore" just like he didn't say women on this board are **** holsters. Shrug. It makes a difference when you think it's about you though doesn't it?
I quite disagree. When he called the woman a c0ckholster, he was talking about the idiot in the OP article, just like I was when I called the people in this OP hypocritical whores. What turned it into a personal attack is quoting my words hypocritical whores and telling me I must be looking in a mirror. That's pretty clearly about ME, and not some anonymous person in a Dear Prudie letter.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Huh. I might be wrong here ladies but the new ban post might indicate someone finally crossed the line. Interesting. We all know where I stand on this so I won't beat the dead horse but damn.
Oh, I was pissed off and preparing for it - you bet your ass. And when I went to look at the rules on it, realized the whole "banning" part was missing. Seemed like as good a time as any to fix that.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
Of ffs. Rules or not everyone knows if you call admin a whore you should be banned. But, another Husker loophole. I wonder if I would get the same treatment? Highly doubtful. Nor should I! Everyone knows you don't **** your sisters husband and you DON'T call LL a whore.
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I'm the Ginger Rogers of spelling...that means I'm smat.
Lesson learned in February: I don't have to keep up, I just have to keep moving!
Of ffs. Rules or not everyone knows if you call admin a whore you should be banned. But, another Husker loophole. I wonder if I would get the same treatment? Highly doubtful. Nor should I! Everyone knows you don't **** your sisters husband and you DON'T call LL a whore.
But he was in the same room as her and he couldn't help it! He's a guy after all!
i officially quit reading husker' posts today when he laughed at my cousin for being born addicted to heroin. It's a real knee slapper I know.
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