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Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

RE: Bobbi Kristina Brown found unconscious in bathtub, rushed to hospital

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Hmm, that is a good point actually.

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

I just hope the family gets the privacy they deserve at her funeral.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Southern_Belle wrote:
Do you think she found out and was so upset she went and popped a bunch of pills or something?

I had the same thought.

burns07 · Guru

well, don't believe in coincidence myself--what are the odds of two people in the same family meeting death in nearly identical circumstances and what is the principal common denominator in each death ?--bobby brown

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Gee that is a good point too. Like Drew Peterson or something. Murderers tend to do the same things.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

burns07 wrote:

well, don't believe in coincidence myself--what are the odds of two people in the same family meeting death in nearly identical circumstances and what is the principal common denominator in each death ?--bobby brown

I think it was a suicide intentionally done to mirror her monther's death. She idolized her mother and wanted to be just like her. What better way to ensure she was remembered as such?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Well there were like 4 people at her house at the time.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

If he keeps her on life support she will still be in line to inherit the money.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
If he keeps her on life support she will still be in line to inherit the money.

OMG that is right. He will inherit the money unless it was in a trust specifically by passing him.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

She gets another portion at 25 and the full portion at 30. He might be able to sustain her in a vegetative state for years. And as her father he would be making the decisions.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

And he is sleazy enough to live off the flesh of his own daughter.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

And he can portray himself as the long suffering dedicated parent.

NAOW · Vette's SS

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
She gets another portion at 25 and the full portion at 30. He might be able to sustain her in a vegetative state for years. And as her father he would be making the decisions.

She is married, so wouldn't her husband make those decisions?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

NAOW wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
She gets another portion at 25 and the full portion at 30. He might be able to sustain her in a vegetative state for years. And as her father he would be making the decisions.
She is married, so wouldn't her husband make those decisions?

I saw a headline the other day that said she wasn't married. I bet her father made the claim...

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yes it isn't clear if they are really married or not.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

But he might keep her alive for the reason. Either way there is more money coming if shes alive.

burns07 · Guru

if she doesn't DIE, he can't be investigated / prosecuted for manslaughter / murder--frankly, just too many similarities in their deaths--hard to DROWN in a bathtub unless you were put there ALREADY unconscious from drugs / alcohol / head trauma ?--was there water in her lungs ? and mean a lot ? consider, all you need to do is sit up / push down with your arms / push up with your legs, etc.--was she clothed ? if so, where were her shoes ? was she wearing make-up ? was there any blood / urine in the bathwater ? was there any drug paraphernalia about ? were there any contusions on her body ?--lots of questions, but of course in the rush to " revive " her all of that was probably overlooked and, once EMS arrives on the scene, you've got a company of marines stomping all over the scene obliterating any sort of evidence--too many questions

and who stands to profit the most from her incapacity or death ? bobby brown

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yes. Exactly. And since this isn't a coroner's cade we are never going to hear if she had drugs in her system either. That is private medical info. If she was stoned and took a bath then yes this is a likely scenario. But it was 1030 am which is weird and most teens or young adults seem to prefer showers. I wonder how often she ever took a bath. What will happen is that Bobby will spin this as her having a seizure during her bath or some bullscit trying to make it look like a freak occurrence and natural death.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Bobby was not even in town when it happened. Tyler Perry sent his jet to pick up Bobby and bring him to Atlanta to be with BK. So he didn't have anything to do with her "accident".

They are saying she has unexplained injuries now and they are looking at Nick Gordon the boyfriend to see what his part in this is.

Bobby has done some sleazy things, but I don't think he had anything to do with BK's situation now.

voiceofreason · Guru

Rough crowd here. I can't imagine marginalizing her dad's grief. That's cold.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

He was a big drug influence in the life of her and her mother. He has alot to do with the tragedy of their lives.

voiceofreason · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
Bobby was not even in town when it happened. Tyler Perry sent his jet to pick up Bobby and bring him to Atlanta to be with BK. So he didn't have anything to do with her "accident".

They are saying she has unexplained injuries now and they are looking at Nick Gordon the boyfriend to see what his part in this is.

Bobby has done some sleazy things, but I don't think he had anything to do with BK's situation now.

And this.

voiceofreason · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
He was a big drug influence in the life of her and her mother. He has alot to do with the tragedy of their lives.

Dionne Warwick was also a big drug influence. As was society. As was the industry. This isn't bb's cross to bear. Imho.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

voiceofreason wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
He was a big drug influence in the life of her and her mother. He has alot to do with the tragedy of their lives.
Dionne Warwick was also a big drug influence. As was society. As was the industry. This isn't bb's cross to bear. Imho.

The person who called 911 was a friend of BK's and Nick's. He was just recently released from prison on drug charges so...

I also think it's kind of amusing that the people who were talking about "personal responsibility" being in charge of your own choices in life on the addiction thread are now so quick to lay the blame on Bobby Brown here. What made you change your minds ? Why isn't BK responsible for her own choices in life? According to you, she is getting exactly what she deserves for taking that first hit! She should have known this was coming...right?!

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Bobby Brown was brought into the discussion because he is the one that presumably will inherit all the money if she is kept alive. He did introduce the drug lifestyle to Whitney, but in no way is he directly responsible for her actions (BK's or Whitney's)

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

He was brought up in the 6th post on this thread WAY before inheritances were discussed and he was referenced by multiple people as the reason Whitney and BK are into drugs. It would seem to me, as evidenced in other threads, that Whitney and BK have no one to blame but themselves. They were adults who made their own choices and we should not pity them because they made their beds.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Mellow Momma wrote:
He was brought up in the 6th post on this thread WAY before inheritances were discussed and he was referenced by multiple people as the reason Whitney and BK are into drugs. It would seem to me, as evidenced in other threads, that Whitney and BK have no one to blame but themselves. They were adults who made their own choices and we should not pity them because they made their beds.

He did influence Whitney in a big way to the drug scene. She was certainly a willing participant. Bobby Brown is a bad dude. Local legend and criminal.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
He was brought up in the 6th post on this thread WAY before inheritances were discussed and he was referenced by multiple people as the reason Whitney and BK are into drugs. It would seem to me, as evidenced in other threads, that Whitney and BK have no one to blame but themselves. They were adults who made their own choices and we should not pity them because they made their beds.
He did influence Whitney in a big way to the drug scene. She was certainly a willing participant. Bobby Brown is a bad dude. Local legend and criminal.

Remember - no one can be influenced. They make their own choices freely knowing all the consequences that lie ahead. We should not mourn either Whitney or BK because they made stupid choices and it is all their own fault for being led into drugs. Personal responsibility and all.

These are not MY personal beliefs...it's just been said on other threads that personal responsibility is the ONLY thing that matters. All the rest of the circumstances are ancillary.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

Mellow Momma wrote:
voiceofreason wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
He was a big drug influence in the life of her and her mother. He has alot to do with the tragedy of their lives.
Dionne Warwick was also a big drug influence. As was society. As was the industry. This isn't bb's cross to bear. Imho.

The person who called 911 was a friend of BK's and Nick's. He was just recently released from prison on drug charges so...

I also think it's kind of amusing that the people who were talking about "personal responsibility" being in charge of your own choices in life on the addiction thread are now so quick to lay the blame on Bobby Brown here. What made you change your minds ? Why isn't BK responsible for her own choices in life? According to you, she is getting exactly what she deserves for taking that first hit! She should have known this was coming...right?!

She probably DID know this was coming. She just didn't care enough about herself to do anything about it. She might even have believed she deserved nothing better than to die of an overdose face-down in a bathtub. This is why addiction is so devastating.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
He was brought up in the 6th post on this thread WAY before inheritances were discussed and he was referenced by multiple people as the reason Whitney and BK are into drugs. It would seem to me, as evidenced in other threads, that Whitney and BK have no one to blame but themselves. They were adults who made their own choices and we should not pity them because they made their beds.
He did influence Whitney in a big way to the drug scene. She was certainly a willing participant. Bobby Brown is a bad dude. Local legend and criminal.
Remember - no one can be influenced. They make their own choices freely knowing all the consequences that lie ahead. We should not mourn either Whitney or BK because they made stupid choices and it is all their own fault for being led into drugs. Personal responsibility and all.
These are not MY personal beliefs...it's just been said on other threads that personal responsibility is the ONLY thing that matters. All the rest of the circumstances are ancillary.

Everybody can be influenced. That is why we at least have "corruption of minor laws". That is why the Bible says Bad company corrupts good character. (³³Do not be misled: “Bad company corrupts good character." I Corinthinians 15:33. That is the why the Bible is replete with admonitions to not be DECEIVED by people of bad character. Yes, you are absolutely responsible for your choices. But, the people around you who corrupt you are also absolutely responsible for their part in introducing such elements into your life.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Tignanello wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
voiceofreason wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
He was a big drug influence in the life of her and her mother. He has alot to do with the tragedy of their lives.
Dionne Warwick was also a big drug influence. As was society. As was the industry. This isn't bb's cross to bear. Imho.

The person who called 911 was a friend of BK's and Nick's. He was just recently released from prison on drug charges so...

I also think it's kind of amusing that the people who were talking about "personal responsibility" being in charge of your own choices in life on the addiction thread are now so quick to lay the blame on Bobby Brown here. What made you change your minds ? Why isn't BK responsible for her own choices in life? According to you, she is getting exactly what she deserves for taking that first hit! She should have known this was coming...right?!
She probably DID know this was coming. She just didn't care enough about herself to do anything about it. She might even have believed she deserved nothing better than to die of an overdose face-down in a bathtub. This is why addiction is so devastating.

AMEN!!!!

flan

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
He was brought up in the 6th post on this thread WAY before inheritances were discussed and he was referenced by multiple people as the reason Whitney and BK are into drugs. It would seem to me, as evidenced in other threads, that Whitney and BK have no one to blame but themselves. They were adults who made their own choices and we should not pity them because they made their beds.
He did influence Whitney in a big way to the drug scene. She was certainly a willing participant. Bobby Brown is a bad dude. Local legend and criminal.
Remember - no one can be influenced. They make their own choices freely knowing all the consequences that lie ahead. We should not mourn either Whitney or BK because they made stupid choices and it is all their own fault for being led into drugs. Personal responsibility and all.
These are not MY personal beliefs...it's just been said on other threads that personal responsibility is the ONLY thing that matters. All the rest of the circumstances are ancillary.
Everybody can be influenced. That is why we at least have "corruption of minor laws". That is why the Bible says Bad company corrupts good character. (³³Do not be misled: “Bad company corrupts good character." I Corinthinians 15:33. That is the why the Bible is replete with admonitions to not be DECEIVED by people of bad character. Yes, you are absolutely responsible for your choices. But, the people around you who corrupt you are also absolutely responsible for their part in introducing such elements into your life.

When we were on the addiction thread...I do not recall anyone saying anything close to this. People were all over the addict for making the choice to use in the first place. When myself and others brought up other circumstances it was said time and time again that no one was to blame except the addict. The addict was getting what they deserved for taking the first hit. They should have just been stronger. Now it seems we are excusing the behavior. Not totally excusing it...but giving the addict a little more latitude. It's just interesting that on this thread NO one has said it was all Whitneys fault or all BK's fault. Everyone wants to blame Bobby for being the bad guy who introduced them to the drug culture. In the addict thread though, the sole responsibility was placed at the addicts feet for being so stupid as to start in the first place.

voiceofreason · Guru

Yep. The outrage towards bb is interesting. Full disclosure: I have no clue who he is aside from being Whitney's husband.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Mellow Momma wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
He was brought up in the 6th post on this thread WAY before inheritances were discussed and he was referenced by multiple people as the reason Whitney and BK are into drugs. It would seem to me, as evidenced in other threads, that Whitney and BK have no one to blame but themselves. They were adults who made their own choices and we should not pity them because they made their beds.
He did influence Whitney in a big way to the drug scene. She was certainly a willing participant. Bobby Brown is a bad dude. Local legend and criminal.
Remember - no one can be influenced. They make their own choices freely knowing all the consequences that lie ahead. We should not mourn either Whitney or BK because they made stupid choices and it is all their own fault for being led into drugs. Personal responsibility and all.
These are not MY personal beliefs...it's just been said on other threads that personal responsibility is the ONLY thing that matters. All the rest of the circumstances are ancillary.
Everybody can be influenced. That is why we at least have "corruption of minor laws". That is why the Bible says Bad company corrupts good character. (³³Do not be misled: “Bad company corrupts good character." I Corinthinians 15:33. That is the why the Bible is replete with admonitions to not be DECEIVED by people of bad character. Yes, you are absolutely responsible for your choices. But, the people around you who corrupt you are also absolutely responsible for their part in introducing such elements into your life.
When we were on the addiction thread...I do not recall anyone saying anything close to this. People were all over the addict for making the choice to use in the first place. When myself and others brought up other circumstances it was said time and time again that no one was to blame except the addict. The addict was getting what they deserved for taking the first hit. They should have just been stronger. Now it seems we are excusing the behavior. Not totally excusing it...but giving the addict a little more latitude. It's just interesting that on this thread NO one has said it was all Whitneys fault or all BK's fault. Everyone wants to blame Bobby for being the bad guy who introduced them to the drug culture. In the addict thread though, the sole responsibility was placed at the addicts feet for being so stupid as to start in the first place.

No one is saying that Whitney and BK aren't responsible for their own behavior. We are however saying what a skank Bobby Brown is. There is never one reason for anything, multiple factors are at hand. Yeah, they are responsible for their behavior, but it doesn't make Bobby brown any less of a loser.

burns07 · Guru

well, just consider the odds--how many of the folks who post here have a family member that died under suspicious circumstances ( excluding military service, of course )? or how many people DO YOU KNOW that had a family member die under suspicious circumstances ? would be willing to bet would be a very small number--now considering that, how many of the people who post here had TWO family members die under NEARLY IDENTICAL suspicious circumstances ? or how many people DO YOU KNOW that had TWO family members die under suspicious circumstances ?

the odds are all wrong--this was planned / orchestrated by someone and the motive was her $$$ or control of it

whitney dies and leaves everything to daughter ( beyond bobby's reach / control ) how does he get to her $$$ without casting suspicion on himself ? this is how

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

He was not even in the same state as his daughter when it happened! He was in LA and BK was in Atlanta! When she was admitted to the hospital, Tyler Perry sent his jet to pick up Bobby and bring him to his daughter's bedside.

When one family member dies tragically, it is very common for the family left behind to copy that same method of death in order to become closer to the departed. To feel what they felt. BK also has the added pressure of always wanting to be exactly like her mother. So it's quite possible that she committed suicide in order to be exactly like her mother.

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

Hopefully there was a clause in Whitney'ss will stating that if BK passed the money would go elsewhere.

voiceofreason · Guru

Why is her money any of our business? What makes him a loser?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yes. The addict is responsible. Absolutely. But sleazy people who lead people down that road have to bear the responsibility for their part.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

voiceofreason wrote:
Why is her money any of our business? What makes him a loser?

He is a bad boy from Boston. Seems like every other day for decades he was arrested or involved in something shady, always having to do with drugs. Then he hits the big time as a rapper and hooks with Whitney. He has children from a previous marriage that he refused to support. Whitney picked up the CS tab when he came back to town and was arrested, thrown in jail. she should have left him there, at the very least should not have procreated with him.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Interesting, there is an article out there that talks about an arrest warrant for BK that was dropped because of her condition. She apparently skipped court for some infraction. yeah, she had been on the downward spiral.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

He took an unfortunate turn in the 90's. He was a good singer in New Edition and on his first solo albums.

But, I think it is quite wild speculation to accuse him of killing his daughter with absolutely no evidence. No matter how bad he got, that's still his daughter. Geesh.